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DONI-MARIE, YOU HAVE MY SYMPATHIES! HAVE BEEN FIGHTING DEPRESSION

RECENTLY ALSO! MY MOM DIED IN OCTOBER, WITH THAT AND THE SEASONAL

AFFECTIVE DISORDER AND WHAT HAS BEEN GOING ON WITH MY DAUGHTER, HAVE

BEEN SAD AND OVERWHELMED! THE FACT THAT THE HOLIDAYS ARE COMING SURE

DOESN'T HELP EITHER, SIGH! AGREE WITH YOU, WITH OUR INABILITY TO DO

THE HOLIDAY THINGS WE USED TOO, IT TENDS TO MAKE US FEEL SAD, MAD AND

HOPELESS! THANK GOD WE HAVE EACH OTHER TO HELP TALK OURSELVES THRU

THE DIFFICULT TIMES!!

THINKING OF YOU AND SENDING YOU A VIRTUAL HUG!!

LOVE AND PRAYERS, ROBIN

> I HAVE BEEN HAVING A ROUGH WEEK, AND TODAY I WAS IN DEEP BLACK

DEPRESSION. I

> FINALLY CLUED IN IT'S BECAUSE OF MISSING MY MOM, ESPECIALLY AS I

HAVE BEEN

> TRYING TO DO A THANKSGIVING PAGE FOR HER SITE. THE BRONCHITIS IS

CLEARING

> UP, BUT THE PAIN IS WORSE TODAY, BECAUSE OF THAT (WELL, AND WORK-

STRESS).

>

> SO TO ALL WHO HAVE LOST FRIENDS AND FAMILY, MY HEART IS WITH YOU.

THESE

> HOLIDAYS CAN KICK US IN THE BUTT IF WE DON'T REALIZE IT'S GRIEF

THAT'S

> ZAPPING US.

>

> {{{GENTLE HUGS}}}

> DONI-MARIE

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DONI MARIE

YES YOU ARE RIGHT!!

HOLIDAYS ARE THE WORST FOR

US WHO HAVE LOST PEOPLE CLOSE

TO US

I HAVE LOST SO MANY AND THE

HOLIDAYS DO NOT GET ANY EASIER

SORRY TO SAY

LIKE WITH THIS PAST JEWISH HOLIDAY - WAS I ALSO SO DEPRESSED - I FELT I

SHOULD

HAVE BEEN UP IN NEW YORK

WITH MY SIS AND BRO

AS WE ALL NEVER KNOW WHEN

OUR TIME IS UP ON THIS EARTH

SO WE MUST TAKE EACH MOMENT

AND HOLD IT

JUST MY 2 CENTS WORTH

LOVE BETSY

I HAVE BEEN HAVING A ROUGH WEEK, AND TODAY I WAS IN DEEP BLACK DEPRESSION. I

FINALLY CLUED IN IT'S BECAUSE OF MISSING MY MOM, ESPECIALLY AS I HAVE BEEN

TRYING TO DO A THANKSGIVING PAGE FOR HER SITE. THE BRONCHITIS IS CLEARING

UP, BUT THE PAIN IS WORSE TODAY, BECAUSE OF THAT (WELL, AND WORK-STRESS).

SO TO ALL WHO HAVE LOST FRIENDS AND FAMILY, MY HEART IS WITH YOU. THESE

HOLIDAYS CAN KICK US IN THE BUTT IF WE DON'T REALIZE IT'S GRIEF THAT'S

ZAPPING US.

{{{GENTLE HUGS}}}

DONI-MARIE

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DONI MARIE

YES YOU ARE RIGHT!!

HOLIDAYS ARE THE WORST FOR

US WHO HAVE LOST PEOPLE CLOSE

TO US

I HAVE LOST SO MANY AND THE

HOLIDAYS DO NOT GET ANY EASIER

SORRY TO SAY

LIKE WITH THIS PAST JEWISH HOLIDAY - WAS I ALSO SO DEPRESSED - I FELT I

SHOULD

HAVE BEEN UP IN NEW YORK

WITH MY SIS AND BRO

AS WE ALL NEVER KNOW WHEN

OUR TIME IS UP ON THIS EARTH

SO WE MUST TAKE EACH MOMENT

AND HOLD IT

JUST MY 2 CENTS WORTH

LOVE BETSY

I HAVE BEEN HAVING A ROUGH WEEK, AND TODAY I WAS IN DEEP BLACK DEPRESSION. I

FINALLY CLUED IN IT'S BECAUSE OF MISSING MY MOM, ESPECIALLY AS I HAVE BEEN

TRYING TO DO A THANKSGIVING PAGE FOR HER SITE. THE BRONCHITIS IS CLEARING

UP, BUT THE PAIN IS WORSE TODAY, BECAUSE OF THAT (WELL, AND WORK-STRESS).

SO TO ALL WHO HAVE LOST FRIENDS AND FAMILY, MY HEART IS WITH YOU. THESE

HOLIDAYS CAN KICK US IN THE BUTT IF WE DON'T REALIZE IT'S GRIEF THAT'S

ZAPPING US.

{{{GENTLE HUGS}}}

DONI-MARIE

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DONI MARIE

YES YOU ARE RIGHT!!

HOLIDAYS ARE THE WORST FOR

US WHO HAVE LOST PEOPLE CLOSE

TO US

I HAVE LOST SO MANY AND THE

HOLIDAYS DO NOT GET ANY EASIER

SORRY TO SAY

LIKE WITH THIS PAST JEWISH HOLIDAY - WAS I ALSO SO DEPRESSED - I FELT I

SHOULD

HAVE BEEN UP IN NEW YORK

WITH MY SIS AND BRO

AS WE ALL NEVER KNOW WHEN

OUR TIME IS UP ON THIS EARTH

SO WE MUST TAKE EACH MOMENT

AND HOLD IT

JUST MY 2 CENTS WORTH

LOVE BETSY

I HAVE BEEN HAVING A ROUGH WEEK, AND TODAY I WAS IN DEEP BLACK DEPRESSION. I

FINALLY CLUED IN IT'S BECAUSE OF MISSING MY MOM, ESPECIALLY AS I HAVE BEEN

TRYING TO DO A THANKSGIVING PAGE FOR HER SITE. THE BRONCHITIS IS CLEARING

UP, BUT THE PAIN IS WORSE TODAY, BECAUSE OF THAT (WELL, AND WORK-STRESS).

SO TO ALL WHO HAVE LOST FRIENDS AND FAMILY, MY HEART IS WITH YOU. THESE

HOLIDAYS CAN KICK US IN THE BUTT IF WE DON'T REALIZE IT'S GRIEF THAT'S

ZAPPING US.

{{{GENTLE HUGS}}}

DONI-MARIE

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OMG, SWEETIE !!!! I DIDNT REALIZE YOU WERE THAT BAD. HON !!! YOU KNOW

YOU CAN CALL ME, AND EVEN IF ITS JUST TO ASK ME TO CALL YA BACK !!!! (IN

CASE YOU'RE SHORT $ WISE !)

YOU BETTER BELIEVE WE'D HUNT YOUR SOUL DOWN !! I WOULD BE A BACKWARDS

HAUNTING !! LOL !!!

PLEASE TAKE CARE, SWEETIE !!! CALL BEFORE YA GET SO BAD, OK ??!! BESIDES

THE FACT THAT YOU'RE SUCH A NICE PERSON..... WE NEED YOUR WISDOM ON HERE

!!! <GRIN> 8^)

ROBIN (AND ALL),

THANKS FOR THE VIRTUAL HUG. I WAS SO SUICIDAL YESTERDAY, BUT I KNEW IF I DID

ANYTHING STUPID YOU GUYS WOULD PROBABLY HUNT MY SOUL DOWN AND REAM ME OUT.

*GRIN*

SERIOUSLY THOUGH, KNOWING I HAD YOU GUYS (AND MY DAUGHTER) IS WHAT PROMPTED

ME TO CALL THE SAMARITANS (A CRISIS LINE). I USUALLY CATCH MYSELF BEFORE IT

GETS THIS BAD AND CALL THEM, BUT THIS ONE SNEAKED UP ON ME (THE VARMINT).

WE ALL DO NEED TO BE AWARE THAT THE HOLIDAYS ARE GOING TO BE TOUGH, AND FOR

THOSE OF US WITH DEPRESSION, WE NEED TO WATCH OURSELVES LIKE A HAWK FOR THE

SIGNS AND HEAD IT OFF AT THE PASS. SO IF ANYONE NEEDS TO TALK, GIVE ME A

CALL (IF YOU DON'T HAVE MY #, EMAIL ME FOR IT). I HAVE WATERPROOF SHOULDERS,

AND THEY ARE PADDED AND COMFY, TOO.

{{{GENTLE HUGS}}}

DONI-MARIE

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OMG, SWEETIE !!!! I DIDNT REALIZE YOU WERE THAT BAD. HON !!! YOU KNOW

YOU CAN CALL ME, AND EVEN IF ITS JUST TO ASK ME TO CALL YA BACK !!!! (IN

CASE YOU'RE SHORT $ WISE !)

YOU BETTER BELIEVE WE'D HUNT YOUR SOUL DOWN !! I WOULD BE A BACKWARDS

HAUNTING !! LOL !!!

PLEASE TAKE CARE, SWEETIE !!! CALL BEFORE YA GET SO BAD, OK ??!! BESIDES

THE FACT THAT YOU'RE SUCH A NICE PERSON..... WE NEED YOUR WISDOM ON HERE

!!! <GRIN> 8^)

ROBIN (AND ALL),

THANKS FOR THE VIRTUAL HUG. I WAS SO SUICIDAL YESTERDAY, BUT I KNEW IF I DID

ANYTHING STUPID YOU GUYS WOULD PROBABLY HUNT MY SOUL DOWN AND REAM ME OUT.

*GRIN*

SERIOUSLY THOUGH, KNOWING I HAD YOU GUYS (AND MY DAUGHTER) IS WHAT PROMPTED

ME TO CALL THE SAMARITANS (A CRISIS LINE). I USUALLY CATCH MYSELF BEFORE IT

GETS THIS BAD AND CALL THEM, BUT THIS ONE SNEAKED UP ON ME (THE VARMINT).

WE ALL DO NEED TO BE AWARE THAT THE HOLIDAYS ARE GOING TO BE TOUGH, AND FOR

THOSE OF US WITH DEPRESSION, WE NEED TO WATCH OURSELVES LIKE A HAWK FOR THE

SIGNS AND HEAD IT OFF AT THE PASS. SO IF ANYONE NEEDS TO TALK, GIVE ME A

CALL (IF YOU DON'T HAVE MY #, EMAIL ME FOR IT). I HAVE WATERPROOF SHOULDERS,

AND THEY ARE PADDED AND COMFY, TOO.

{{{GENTLE HUGS}}}

DONI-MARIE

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OMG, SWEETIE !!!! I DIDNT REALIZE YOU WERE THAT BAD. HON !!! YOU KNOW

YOU CAN CALL ME, AND EVEN IF ITS JUST TO ASK ME TO CALL YA BACK !!!! (IN

CASE YOU'RE SHORT $ WISE !)

YOU BETTER BELIEVE WE'D HUNT YOUR SOUL DOWN !! I WOULD BE A BACKWARDS

HAUNTING !! LOL !!!

PLEASE TAKE CARE, SWEETIE !!! CALL BEFORE YA GET SO BAD, OK ??!! BESIDES

THE FACT THAT YOU'RE SUCH A NICE PERSON..... WE NEED YOUR WISDOM ON HERE

!!! <GRIN> 8^)

ROBIN (AND ALL),

THANKS FOR THE VIRTUAL HUG. I WAS SO SUICIDAL YESTERDAY, BUT I KNEW IF I DID

ANYTHING STUPID YOU GUYS WOULD PROBABLY HUNT MY SOUL DOWN AND REAM ME OUT.

*GRIN*

SERIOUSLY THOUGH, KNOWING I HAD YOU GUYS (AND MY DAUGHTER) IS WHAT PROMPTED

ME TO CALL THE SAMARITANS (A CRISIS LINE). I USUALLY CATCH MYSELF BEFORE IT

GETS THIS BAD AND CALL THEM, BUT THIS ONE SNEAKED UP ON ME (THE VARMINT).

WE ALL DO NEED TO BE AWARE THAT THE HOLIDAYS ARE GOING TO BE TOUGH, AND FOR

THOSE OF US WITH DEPRESSION, WE NEED TO WATCH OURSELVES LIKE A HAWK FOR THE

SIGNS AND HEAD IT OFF AT THE PASS. SO IF ANYONE NEEDS TO TALK, GIVE ME A

CALL (IF YOU DON'T HAVE MY #, EMAIL ME FOR IT). I HAVE WATERPROOF SHOULDERS,

AND THEY ARE PADDED AND COMFY, TOO.

{{{GENTLE HUGS}}}

DONI-MARIE

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DONI-M I AM SORRY TO HEAR YOU WERE SO DEPRESSED. GIRL YOU SHOULD HAVE

CALLED ME I HAVE AN EAR ANYTIME YOU NEED IT NO MATTER WHAT. GLAD YOU DID

CALL SOME ONE AND YOU ARE FEELING BETTER TODAY. KNOW I AM HERE FOR YOU.

LUV JO

                              

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ROBIN (AND ALL),

THANKS FOR THE VIRTUAL HUG. I WAS SO SUICIDAL YESTERDAY, BUT I KNEW IF I DID

ANYTHING STUPID YOU GUYS WOULD PROBABLY HUNT MY SOUL DOWN AND REAM ME OUT.

*GRIN*

SERIOUSLY THOUGH, KNOWING I HAD YOU GUYS (AND MY DAUGHTER) IS WHAT PROMPTED

ME TO CALL THE SAMARITANS (A CRISIS LINE). I USUALLY CATCH MYSELF BEFORE IT

GETS THIS BAD AND CALL THEM, BUT THIS ONE SNEAKED UP ON ME (THE VARMINT).

WE ALL DO NEED TO BE AWARE THAT THE HOLIDAYS ARE GOING TO BE TOUGH, AND FOR

THOSE OF US WITH DEPRESSION, WE NEED TO WATCH OURSELVES LIKE A HAWK FOR THE

SIGNS AND HEAD IT OFF AT THE PASS. SO IF ANYONE NEEDS TO TALK, GIVE ME A

CALL (IF YOU DON'T HAVE MY #, EMAIL ME FOR IT). I HAVE WATERPROOF SHOULDERS,

AND THEY ARE PADDED AND COMFY, TOO.

{{{GENTLE HUGS}}}

DONI-MARIE

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YA KNOW GIRL,

WE'RE HERE FOR YOU TOO!!

HUGS

SHARON

JUST A NOTE

I HAVE BEEN HAVING A ROUGH WEEK, AND TODAY I WAS IN DEEP BLACK DEPRESSION. I

FINALLY CLUED IN IT'S BECAUSE OF MISSING MY MOM, ESPECIALLY AS I HAVE BEEN

TRYING TO DO A THANKSGIVING PAGE FOR HER SITE. THE BRONCHITIS IS CLEARING

UP, BUT THE PAIN IS WORSE TODAY, BECAUSE OF THAT (WELL, AND WORK-STRESS).

SO TO ALL WHO HAVE LOST FRIENDS AND FAMILY, MY HEART IS WITH YOU. THESE

HOLIDAYS CAN KICK US IN THE BUTT IF WE DON'T REALIZE IT'S GRIEF THAT'S

ZAPPING US.

{{{GENTLE HUGS}}}

DONI-MARIE

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SO MY FRIEND, ARE YOU DOING BETTER TODAY? YOU NEED TO KNOW IF YOU

DID YOURSELF IN, I WOULD ASTRAL TRAVEL, GO TO THE OTHER SIDE AND

HAUNT YOU!LOL! NEXT TIME LET US KNOW HOW YOU ARE FEELING BEFORE YOU

GET TO FEELING THAT BAD!!! PLEASSSSSSSSSSSSE!!!

KNOW THAT YOU ARE IN MY THOUGHTS AND PRAYERS ALWAYS, ROBIN

> ROBIN (AND ALL),

> THANKS FOR THE VIRTUAL HUG. I WAS SO SUICIDAL YESTERDAY, BUT I KNEW

IF I DID

> ANYTHING STUPID YOU GUYS WOULD PROBABLY HUNT MY SOUL DOWN AND REAM

ME OUT.

> *GRIN*

>

> SERIOUSLY THOUGH, KNOWING I HAD YOU GUYS (AND MY DAUGHTER) IS WHAT

PROMPTED

> ME TO CALL THE SAMARITANS (A CRISIS LINE). I USUALLY CATCH MYSELF

BEFORE IT

> GETS THIS BAD AND CALL THEM, BUT THIS ONE SNEAKED UP ON ME (THE

VARMINT).

>

> WE ALL DO NEED TO BE AWARE THAT THE HOLIDAYS ARE GOING TO BE TOUGH,

AND FOR

> THOSE OF US WITH DEPRESSION, WE NEED TO WATCH OURSELVES LIKE A HAWK

FOR THE

> SIGNS AND HEAD IT OFF AT THE PASS. SO IF ANYONE NEEDS TO TALK, GIVE

ME A

> CALL (IF YOU DON'T HAVE MY #, EMAIL ME FOR IT). I HAVE WATERPROOF

SHOULDERS,

> AND THEY ARE PADDED AND COMFY, TOO.

>

> {{{GENTLE HUGS}}}

> DONI-MARIE

>

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DONI MARIE

YOU BET WE WOULD HAVE HUNTED

YOU DOWN

NOW GET THOSE THOUGHTS OUT

OF YOUR MIND!!

I KNOW HOW YOU FEEL-BELIEVE

ME!!

BUT THE GRAND KIDS KEEP ME

FROM ENDING IT ALL

YES THE HOLIDAYS AND ANNIVERSARY DATES ARE HARD

BUT WE ARE ALWAYS HERE FOR

EACH OTHER!!!!

LOVE YA BETSY

ROBIN (AND ALL),

THANKS FOR THE VIRTUAL HUG. I WAS SO SUICIDAL YESTERDAY, BUT I KNEW IF I DID

ANYTHING STUPID YOU GUYS WOULD PROBABLY HUNT MY SOUL DOWN AND REAM ME OUT.

*GRIN*

SERIOUSLY THOUGH, KNOWING I HAD YOU GUYS (AND MY DAUGHTER) IS WHAT PROMPTED

ME TO CALL THE SAMARITANS (A CRISIS LINE). I USUALLY CATCH MYSELF BEFORE IT

GETS THIS BAD AND CALL THEM, BUT THIS ONE SNEAKED UP ON ME (THE VARMINT).

WE ALL DO NEED TO BE AWARE THAT THE HOLIDAYS ARE GOING TO BE TOUGH, AND FOR

THOSE OF US WITH DEPRESSION, WE NEED TO WATCH OURSELVES LIKE A HAWK FOR THE

SIGNS AND HEAD IT OFF AT THE PASS. SO IF ANYONE NEEDS TO TALK, GIVE ME A

CALL (IF YOU DON'T HAVE MY #, EMAIL ME FOR IT). I HAVE WATERPROOF SHOULDERS,

AND THEY ARE PADDED AND COMFY, TOO.

{{{GENTLE HUGS}}}

DONI-MARIE

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YOU BET WE WOULD HAVE HUNTED

YOU DOWN

NOW GET THOSE THOUGHTS OUT

OF YOUR MIND!!

I KNOW HOW YOU FEEL-BELIEVE

ME!!

BUT THE GRAND KIDS KEEP ME

FROM ENDING IT ALL

YES THE HOLIDAYS AND ANNIVERSARY DATES ARE HARD

BUT WE ARE ALWAYS HERE FOR

EACH OTHER!!!!

LOVE YA BETSY

ROBIN (AND ALL),

THANKS FOR THE VIRTUAL HUG. I WAS SO SUICIDAL YESTERDAY, BUT I KNEW IF I DID

ANYTHING STUPID YOU GUYS WOULD PROBABLY HUNT MY SOUL DOWN AND REAM ME OUT.

*GRIN*

SERIOUSLY THOUGH, KNOWING I HAD YOU GUYS (AND MY DAUGHTER) IS WHAT PROMPTED

ME TO CALL THE SAMARITANS (A CRISIS LINE). I USUALLY CATCH MYSELF BEFORE IT

GETS THIS BAD AND CALL THEM, BUT THIS ONE SNEAKED UP ON ME (THE VARMINT).

WE ALL DO NEED TO BE AWARE THAT THE HOLIDAYS ARE GOING TO BE TOUGH, AND FOR

THOSE OF US WITH DEPRESSION, WE NEED TO WATCH OURSELVES LIKE A HAWK FOR THE

SIGNS AND HEAD IT OFF AT THE PASS. SO IF ANYONE NEEDS TO TALK, GIVE ME A

CALL (IF YOU DON'T HAVE MY #, EMAIL ME FOR IT). I HAVE WATERPROOF SHOULDERS,

AND THEY ARE PADDED AND COMFY, TOO.

{{{GENTLE HUGS}}}

DONI-MARIE

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In a message dated 3/30/02 8:24:37 AM Central Standard Time,

Turk22082@... writes:

> . I think the biggest problem is she is a 17 year old lady who

> has NOTHING to do after school except be with me or many of my family

> members. Thank God they do things with her on weekends. It stinks for a

> 17

> year old to do things with her mother and father constantly!

>

Hello,

OH BOY can I relate to that statement!! That is how I feel about

our Mark. If he is not at school he is here with Mom and Dad 24-7!! He is

bored out of his gord. Plus is is sort of difficult to find activities that

interest him. His vision is not that great for things like movies. Besides he

doesn't sit still that long. We are always racking our brains for something

new and different for him to try but usually come up short. This is a real

problem. Where is Perkins at. I think Mark would like to go somewhere

different just to go!! And at 18 I think he really needs it. He will need

constant supervision if he ever gets out on his own. I can relate to your

concerns, and his behavior has been a bit of a problem off and on this year.

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Martha,

I am in Michigan. My Mark does go to different jobs through his

school. He seems to enjoy that. It is the social thing that is difficult. I

hate to say it but I am a bit burnt out and the thought of trying to arrange

this stuff myself is just too much. I mean he goes where ever the family goes

and sometimes even that is difficult. He has a couple kids his own age who

sit with him when we are at work. He does ok with that too. It is the fun and

enjoyable things we have trouble with. If you know of any sources we can tap

into or contact let us know. He attends Elmer Knoph Learning Center here

(TMI) which is a great school and very active. He has an interpreter there

which helps a lot. It is just the principle I think that our kids don't have

friends who come to go " out " with and to get such a thing to happen is a JOB

in itself.

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In a message dated 3/30/02 3:54:53 PM Central Standard Time,

lewcap@... writes:

> I'd like to know, too, if others with older CHARGErs have noticed increases

> in OCD,

Martha,

Oh my gosh yes Mark has gotten much worse this last year. If

something troubles him now look out!!! If the bus is delayed or if we take an

alternate route somewhere he comes unglued. And the thing is that he is

bigger than me now. This makes things difficult if he gets out of hand I

can't always control him. The whole idea is very scarey. We just made a

medication switch and he seems a little better. Though his sleeping is back

to being irregular now. This is not the easiest thing to manage. And now that

he has the bladder problem it complicates every activity.

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Hi,

I work with the transition stuff here in Michigan and you are right it

should not start when the students reach high school age. I hope all the

families of young charge children take it to heart to start a group of

non-family friends. My so called normal children (if there is such an

animal) made friends on their own the students I work with need help in this

area and if you wait until the students are late elementary or middle school

the other students all ready have their groups and it is hard if not

impossible to get them to let others in. Get your children involved in Girl

Scouts, Boy Scouts, church or any other type of activities that they may be

interested in. Even a helper to some of the sports team if they can't play.

Even if the students find a job they can do it is very hard for them to

become part of the group because they do not know how to make that step. We

work very hard with the young students on what is a friend, how to be a good

friend, conversation skill with both our verbal and nonverbal students. I

think the job thing for Patty can work try and get her credit for the work

experience so she will not be behind with the credits. Talk with places

about an after school job, I know you don't want to hear this but you may

have to do this on your own. Are there members of your church or people you

work with that have some type of in with people who run businesses in your

town. She may have to start in a non-paid positions just to show people she

can do the job. I take students to work sites and couple of hours one day a

week then hopefully if the students likes the job we try and get them hired

this does not always work out but has on many occasions.

Martha, busdriver to Brittney and vocational aide to Trainable Mentally

Impaired students

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Hi,

I work with the transition stuff here in Michigan and you are right it

should not start when the students reach high school age. I hope all the

families of young charge children take it to heart to start a group of

non-family friends. My so called normal children (if there is such an

animal) made friends on their own the students I work with need help in this

area and if you wait until the students are late elementary or middle school

the other students all ready have their groups and it is hard if not

impossible to get them to let others in. Get your children involved in Girl

Scouts, Boy Scouts, church or any other type of activities that they may be

interested in. Even a helper to some of the sports team if they can't play.

Even if the students find a job they can do it is very hard for them to

become part of the group because they do not know how to make that step. We

work very hard with the young students on what is a friend, how to be a good

friend, conversation skill with both our verbal and nonverbal students. I

think the job thing for Patty can work try and get her credit for the work

experience so she will not be behind with the credits. Talk with places

about an after school job, I know you don't want to hear this but you may

have to do this on your own. Are there members of your church or people you

work with that have some type of in with people who run businesses in your

town. She may have to start in a non-paid positions just to show people she

can do the job. I take students to work sites and couple of hours one day a

week then hopefully if the students likes the job we try and get them hired

this does not always work out but has on many occasions.

Martha, busdriver to Brittney and vocational aide to Trainable Mentally

Impaired students

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Hi,

I work with the transition stuff here in Michigan and you are right it

should not start when the students reach high school age. I hope all the

families of young charge children take it to heart to start a group of

non-family friends. My so called normal children (if there is such an

animal) made friends on their own the students I work with need help in this

area and if you wait until the students are late elementary or middle school

the other students all ready have their groups and it is hard if not

impossible to get them to let others in. Get your children involved in Girl

Scouts, Boy Scouts, church or any other type of activities that they may be

interested in. Even a helper to some of the sports team if they can't play.

Even if the students find a job they can do it is very hard for them to

become part of the group because they do not know how to make that step. We

work very hard with the young students on what is a friend, how to be a good

friend, conversation skill with both our verbal and nonverbal students. I

think the job thing for Patty can work try and get her credit for the work

experience so she will not be behind with the credits. Talk with places

about an after school job, I know you don't want to hear this but you may

have to do this on your own. Are there members of your church or people you

work with that have some type of in with people who run businesses in your

town. She may have to start in a non-paid positions just to show people she

can do the job. I take students to work sites and couple of hours one day a

week then hopefully if the students likes the job we try and get them hired

this does not always work out but has on many occasions.

Martha, busdriver to Brittney and vocational aide to Trainable Mentally

Impaired students

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is 17, and her OCD goes through the roof at times now. We - family and

Perkins staff - can't really figure it out. We're trying her on Paxil now -

with Ativan when she's very stressed. At times, I just don't like the drugs

at all.

I'd like to know, too, if others with older CHARGErs have noticed increases

in OCD, etc. in the mid to late teen years.

Martha

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OCD here

im worse in the spring/summer though. in the winter its the othe way

around. I think its manic depression thats got me :( Oh well :)

summer is soon!!!

Chantelle

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Chantelle: Did your OCD get worse as you grew up? had a touch of it

when younger; now, however, there are times when it is truly pronounced. I

think you may be right about the seasonal aspect. Our oldest child goes to

college in MN, and the winter months simply send her into --- well, I'll

call it depression, but it's not that at all. She just turns into a

horror...

Martha

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I dont think I got worse with age. I would say that 4 years ago it

was a lot worse. I think I notice it more now and can regulate myself

or I go get help. I cant do anything once im in the OCD or depression

state, only when I know im heading in that direction (I notice some

warning signs)

Chantelle

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I dont think I got worse with age. I would say that 4 years ago it

was a lot worse. I think I notice it more now and can regulate myself

or I go get help. I cant do anything once im in the OCD or depression

state, only when I know im heading in that direction (I notice some

warning signs)

Chantelle

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I dont think I got worse with age. I would say that 4 years ago it

was a lot worse. I think I notice it more now and can regulate myself

or I go get help. I cant do anything once im in the OCD or depression

state, only when I know im heading in that direction (I notice some

warning signs)

Chantelle

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Chantelle, you sound like you are becoming very self-aware--great job! BTW,

what would warning signs be, maybe I can help educate my son to be

aware...thanks, Barbra Mousouris

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> I dont think I got worse with age. I would say that 4 years ago it

> was a lot worse. I think I notice it more now and can regulate myself

> or I go get help. I cant do anything once im in the OCD or depression

> state, only when I know im heading in that direction (I notice some

> warning signs)

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> Chantelle

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