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Hi ,

I was expecting much worse myself, although I am only entering week #6 since

my TT, so perhaps the very worst is coming (getting a TSH check tomorrow).

What I have noticed that when I add any stress at all to my life (like taking

care of my son, working, etc...), my symptoms seem to be more exagerated.

Another thing I noticed, and I have posted here about it, is that when I go

for a jog, my symptoms are greatly alleviated for about 12 hours, then they

return. Coffee in the morning helps, and taking it easy (like lying down)

when I feel the first signs of exhaustion or light-headiness coming about

keeps the symptoms more at bay. One more thing, I have noticed I have good

days and bad, and that the symptoms come in waves. If I do plan an activity,

like cooking or doing laundry ( are we having fun yet?), I stop after the

task is completed and rest before gettting into anything else.

Perhaps I am not truly hypo yet, but my thyroid was removed July 9, and I

went off Cytomel Aug. 6. I actually felt worse the week before working and

on Cytomel than I did the first few days off of work and off of Cytomel

earlier this week. I think part of the battle is managing hypothyroidism as

best you can, if possible.

Debbi (Washington, DC)

Age 41

dx pap thyca 5/01

TT 7/01

2 cm tumor/no spread

RAI sch 8/01

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> Hi:

>

> I'm curious to hear from anyone whose experience of going

> hypo " wasn't too bad " or words to that effect. I suspect that the

> experience varies from person to person, but on this list I've read

> some of the more difficult experiences. Not having gone through this

> before I don't know what to expect. What I've read on this list

> leads me to expect a great disruption in my life, at least for some

> period of time, due to " brain fog, " etc. Is there anyone here who

> can provide good anecdotes that will balance the picture? Or is this

> list fairly representative?

>

>

>

> 7/00 PT, found 2.3 cm pap left side

> 8/01 completion thyroidectomy, .5 cm pap right side

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> For more information regarding thyroid cancer visit www.thyca.org. If you

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I have had only one hypo experience and will undergo another in about four

weeks. My first was really pretty smooth sailing until the last couple of

days. I worked, played tennis and did all my normal activities. I did

experience brain fog or forgetfulness but it wasnt any big deal. My face did

get puffy and I looked kind of crumby but other than that it was not

horrendous in any way.

Jan

tt 3-16-2001, 3 cm tumor with carotid artery, soft tissue and lymph node

involvement, tall cell variant of pap cancer

RAI 4-30-2001, 200 mCi

> I'm curious to hear from anyone whose experience of going

> hypo " wasn't too bad " or words to that effect.

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I have had only one hypo experience and will undergo another in about four

weeks. My first was really pretty smooth sailing until the last couple of

days. I worked, played tennis and did all my normal activities. I did

experience brain fog or forgetfulness but it wasnt any big deal. My face did

get puffy and I looked kind of crumby but other than that it was not

horrendous in any way.

Jan

tt 3-16-2001, 3 cm tumor with carotid artery, soft tissue and lymph node

involvement, tall cell variant of pap cancer

RAI 4-30-2001, 200 mCi

> I'm curious to hear from anyone whose experience of going

> hypo " wasn't too bad " or words to that effect.

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I have had only one hypo experience and will undergo another in about four

weeks. My first was really pretty smooth sailing until the last couple of

days. I worked, played tennis and did all my normal activities. I did

experience brain fog or forgetfulness but it wasnt any big deal. My face did

get puffy and I looked kind of crumby but other than that it was not

horrendous in any way.

Jan

tt 3-16-2001, 3 cm tumor with carotid artery, soft tissue and lymph node

involvement, tall cell variant of pap cancer

RAI 4-30-2001, 200 mCi

> I'm curious to hear from anyone whose experience of going

> hypo " wasn't too bad " or words to that effect.

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Hi

I've handed hundreds of therapy doses of RAI to perhaps 2-4 hundred different

people.

A small percentage (maybe 5%) could not detect any effect from being hypo.

Some of these told me that they had trouble remembering to take their T4

because it had so little effect on them. One man learned norwegian from

scratch while in isolation during repeated therapies.

A larger percentage (maybe 10%) were really low - almost zombies. I was

acutely conscious of these because I couldn't rely on them to maintain the

precautions.

The rest were somewhere in the middle. They fitted into 3 camps - mentally

low, physically low or both. I could never see any reason why, but I have to

say that my interest was purely selfish, so if I was satisfied that they

wouldn't contaminate the room too much, I didn't look any further.

Ian

Most people

> Hi:

>

> I'm curious to hear from anyone whose experience of going

> hypo " wasn't too bad " or words to that effect. I suspect that the

> experience varies from person to person, but on this list I've read

> some of the more difficult experiences. Not having gone through this

> before I don't know what to expect. What I've read on this list

> leads me to expect a great disruption in my life, at least for some

> period of time, due to " brain fog, " etc. Is there anyone here who

> can provide good anecdotes that will balance the picture? Or is this

> list fairly representative?

>

>

>

> 7/00 PT, found 2.3 cm pap left side

> 8/01 completion thyroidectomy, .5 cm pap right side

>

>

> For more information regarding thyroid cancer visit www.thyca.org. If you do

not wish to belong to this group, you may UNSUBSCRIBE by sending a blank email

to thyca-unsubscribe

>

>

>

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Hi,

I felt much better than I expected to feel b/n surgery and RAI (no

cytomomel). In fact, I was surprised that my TSH was sufficiently

high enough for treatment.

The nasty symptoms hit me after RAI and it did take months for me to

feel better (energy, stamina, mental acuity, hair loss). I think

recovery time also depends on how many med adjustments after RAI. 6-8

weeks b/n adjustments can draw this out for too long! For me, my TSH

was 50 five weeks post RAI (clearly undermedicated) so I think

starting on the right dose has a direct impact on how soon you feel

better after RAI. I'm absolutely fine now!...just in time to go off

for my yearly scan, oh boy.

Good luck,

Sandy

TT/RAI Oct. 2000, multi-focal pap

> Hi:

>

> I'm curious to hear from anyone whose experience of going

> hypo " wasn't too bad " or words to that effect. I suspect that the

> experience varies from person to person, but on this list I've read

> some of the more difficult experiences. Not having gone through

this

> before I don't know what to expect. What I've read on this list

> leads me to expect a great disruption in my life, at least for some

> period of time, due to " brain fog, " etc. Is there anyone here who

> can provide good anecdotes that will balance the picture? Or is

this

> list fairly representative?

>

>

>

> 7/00 PT, found 2.3 cm pap left side

> 8/01 completion thyroidectomy, .5 cm pap right side

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I'm one who thinks hypo isn't too bad. I was a frequent scanner and had

to go thru hypo hell 7 times in the first 5 1/2 years after being

diagnosed. That roller coaster was tough as I would just get back to

normal and it was time to go off meds and do it all over again, but I

tolerated it well. I have been able to maintain most of my normal

activities whenever hypo, altho' some were done at a slower and less

intesnse rate.

There is no doubt you will have a disruption in your normal lifestyle,

but it may not be as severe as you anticipate. Everyone differs on how

acute hypo symtoms are and there is simply no way to predict how you

will experience them. You'll just have to go with the flow as hypo hell

happens!

Marilyn

>>I'm curious to hear from anyone whose experience of going

hypo " wasn't too bad " or words to that effect. I suspect that the

experience varies from person to person, but on this list I've read

some of the more difficult experiences. Not having gone through this

before I don't know what to expect. What I've read on this list

leads me to expect a great disruption in my life, at least for some

period of time, due to " brain fog, " etc. Is there anyone here who

can provide good anecdotes that will balance the picture? Or is this

list fairly representative?<<

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Hi Ian,

I think you did a great job of summing it up ... HYPO will be

different for EVERYBODY!!! I was wondering though ....

.... does the TSH level you reach have any relation to how bad you

feel???

I really did pretty well while HYPO but as soon as my TSH gets into

the 3 digits (113.8) I HIT A HYPO WALL, Hard!! I seem to handle the 2

digits fine .... JUST WONDERING?

(40 in SLC)

11/3/00; lymph node removal,

11/13/00; pap/thyca,TT,

12/19/00; 2mCi,

12/22/00; 100mCi RAI " quarantine " ,

6/15/01; TSH.03,taking .150mcg Synthroid/day, Tg0.5 BUT antibodies 26,

6/16/01; started 25mcg CYTOMEL once a day,

7/23/01; stopped CYTOMEL & Started LID,

8/6/01; TSH 113.8,

8/8/01; took 4mCi pill,

8/10/01 ... CLEAN SCAN!!!!!

> Hi

>

> I've handed hundreds of therapy doses of RAI to perhaps 2-4 hundred

different

> people.

>

> A small percentage (maybe 5%) could not detect any effect from being

hypo.

> Some of these told me that they had trouble remembering to take

their T4

> because it had so little effect on them. One man learned norwegian

from

> scratch while in isolation during repeated therapies.

>

> A larger percentage (maybe 10%) were really low - almost zombies. I

was

> acutely conscious of these because I couldn't rely on them to

maintain the

> precautions.

>

> The rest were somewhere in the middle. They fitted into 3 camps -

mentally

> low, physically low or both. I could never see any reason why, but I

have to

> say that my interest was purely selfish, so if I was satisfied that

they

> wouldn't contaminate the room too much, I didn't look any further.

>

> Ian

>

>

> Most people

> > Hi:

> >

> > I'm curious to hear from anyone whose experience of going

> > hypo " wasn't too bad " or words to that effect. I suspect that the

> > experience varies from person to person, but on this list I've

read

> > some of the more difficult experiences. Not having gone through

this

> > before I don't know what to expect. What I've read on this list

> > leads me to expect a great disruption in my life, at least for

some

> > period of time, due to " brain fog, " etc. Is there anyone here who

> > can provide good anecdotes that will balance the picture? Or is

this

> > list fairly representative?

> >

> >

> >

> > 7/00 PT, found 2.3 cm pap left side

> > 8/01 completion thyroidectomy, .5 cm pap right side

> >

> >

> > For more information regarding thyroid cancer visit www.thyca.org.

If you do not wish to belong to this group, you may UNSUBSCRIBE by

sending a blank email to thyca-unsubscribe@y...

> >

> >

> >

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Hi

I'm sorry, I can't answer this. When I was doing this work I concentrated on

the parts that I needed to know (radiation protection, home environment,

continence etc), and the LID aspects which interested me. My understanding of

the hormonal side of things was superficial. I can't honestly say that I

noticed TSH values - I can't even swear that we did them.

Ian

> Hi Ian,

>

> I think you did a great job of summing it up ... HYPO will be

> different for EVERYBODY!!! I was wondering though ....

>

> ... does the TSH level you reach have any relation to how bad you

> feel???

>

> I really did pretty well while HYPO but as soon as my TSH gets into

> the 3 digits (113.8) I HIT A HYPO WALL, Hard!! I seem to handle the 2

> digits fine .... JUST WONDERING?

>

>

> (40 in SLC)

Ian Adam

Radiation Safety Officer

The Institute of Cancer Research

Cotswold Road

Sutton

Surrey

SM2 5NG

Tel: 020 8722 4250

Fax: 020 8722 4300

EMail: iana@...

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Thanks, , and everyone else who responded to my original post

seeking anecdotes of " not so bad " experiences going hypo. The

potential disruption in my life from going off of Synthroid (175 mcg)

in preparation for RAI has caused me far more anxiety than the

surgery I just went through (completion thyroidectomy 8/3). I sailed

through the surgery, missing only 1 day of work. Hearing your

experiences lessens my anxiety quite a bit, as I know that the

disruption may not be as bad as I feared. I'll keep going as long as

I can and maybe I'll be back here in a few weeks with another

anecdote of a " not so bad " experience going hypo.

Thanks again.

7/00 partial thyroidectomy 2.3 cm pap

8/01 completion thyroidectomy, another .5 cm pap

now on Cytomel 25 mcg (until this Friday 8/17)

RAI (100 mci) to follow

> I have always had a fairly 'tolerable' experience going hypo. I

have looked

> at it as 'mind over matter', if I don't tell myself I'm feeling

bad, then I

> don't feel bad. It usually works. I keep up my same activities,

go to work

> everyday, play with my 2 yr. old in the back yard, cook dinner,

etc. The

> last time I went hypo it really only hit me the last week. I felt

drug out

> and tired, but continued to work at least. Just keep a positive

attitude,

> don't try to do too much, but don't suddenly stop your life simply

because

> you go off your meds. I think by expecting to be miserable, we

sometimes

> make ourselves that way.

>

>

> TT 7/97, 1 cm pap w/ lymph node mets, 105 mci RAI 9/97, recurrance

2/99, 2.5

> cm nodule w/ mets to lymph nodes, modified radical neck

dissection, clean

> scan in 3/99 and 1/00.

>

>

>

>

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Thanks, , and everyone else who responded to my original post

seeking anecdotes of " not so bad " experiences going hypo. The

potential disruption in my life from going off of Synthroid (175 mcg)

in preparation for RAI has caused me far more anxiety than the

surgery I just went through (completion thyroidectomy 8/3). I sailed

through the surgery, missing only 1 day of work. Hearing your

experiences lessens my anxiety quite a bit, as I know that the

disruption may not be as bad as I feared. I'll keep going as long as

I can and maybe I'll be back here in a few weeks with another

anecdote of a " not so bad " experience going hypo.

Thanks again.

7/00 partial thyroidectomy 2.3 cm pap

8/01 completion thyroidectomy, another .5 cm pap

now on Cytomel 25 mcg (until this Friday 8/17)

RAI (100 mci) to follow

> I have always had a fairly 'tolerable' experience going hypo. I

have looked

> at it as 'mind over matter', if I don't tell myself I'm feeling

bad, then I

> don't feel bad. It usually works. I keep up my same activities,

go to work

> everyday, play with my 2 yr. old in the back yard, cook dinner,

etc. The

> last time I went hypo it really only hit me the last week. I felt

drug out

> and tired, but continued to work at least. Just keep a positive

attitude,

> don't try to do too much, but don't suddenly stop your life simply

because

> you go off your meds. I think by expecting to be miserable, we

sometimes

> make ourselves that way.

>

>

> TT 7/97, 1 cm pap w/ lymph node mets, 105 mci RAI 9/97, recurrance

2/99, 2.5

> cm nodule w/ mets to lymph nodes, modified radical neck

dissection, clean

> scan in 3/99 and 1/00.

>

>

>

>

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