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Shirley, I had written you a long response and all of a sudden

" Poof! " , it was gone to somewhere out in space. I'll try to remember

what I said before but if I can't just remember that it's part of the

BF that I have also.

I'm so sorry that your MS has obviously flared so much in the past

year. It's hard to believe that you've actually even had this

diagnosis that long. I'm sure each and every flare gets more and more

frightening...I have a friend in CA who has MS. Her son was good

friends with my 30 year old son when they were in high school and she

had been dx'd 10 years or so before that. Her MS would flare for a

while and then go into remission, sometimes for several years. She's

now in her 50's and her husband has gone through the bit where he can

no longer care for her at home so they found a wonderful new care

facility where all the patients have MS. Marta, being the organizer

that she is, has done all sorts of things to liven up the place, plan

outings, and work as a teacher mentor to those who had basically

gotten so depressed about their plight but Marta has done wonders to

help with the program. She said that since she was to the point where

she needed someone to stay with her, why not go to this place during

the week, and then on weekends, Dan and she have her at home still

doing amazing things together. Marta remained mobile for a long time

because her neuro prescribed an electric chair for her and she had a

lift in her van so she could still get out and do her volunteer work

with the kids schools.

You are a long, long way from being as infirmed as Marta but I just

wanted to tell you about her because even though she had several major

flares at first after she was first dx'd, she had many months and

years at a time when she was in remission. I hope that your new neuro

will Rx a motorized chair for you. It will make it so much easier for

you to get around and allow you and Steve to do lots more things

together on weekends when you can get out and go. I am praying for

you that the yearly checkup doesn't show much change. Please tell us

how we can be of greater support to you if that is possible. We love

you and know you have a fight on your hands to work with your dx and

live the life you and Steve want to live.

Hugs and many prayers,

Jane

> I've been in a MS flare starting slowly on Thursday. By Sunday, Steve

> called the neuro on call. I was put on 80 mgs of prednisone on

Sunday and

> another 80 mgs today/Monday. I saw my new neuro today. I all ready had

> this appt scheduled. It was my 1 year appt. I got a MRI done at

6:30 pm

> Monday. We'll see if there's any new activity or what. This was my

second

> flare this month. That's not typical of my MS. My last shower was

Saturday

> morning and I got one Monday at 9 pm. Boy did it feel good. I

didn't move

> much this weekend. I went from one couch where I sat, to the other

couch I

> laid on and then to the bathroom. I was so weak I had to use my

walker with

> wheels. That wore me out too. but I'm not bad enough for a scooter

> according to my last neuro....lol I guess I'm not bad enough long

enough or

> just enough I guess....lol When I'm that weak I couldn't contol a

scooter

> anyways. I get vertigo so bad I couldn't see where I was

driving....lol So

> the wheeled walker is best I guess. But I'm better, I can't sleep I'm

> hyped! But I can walk under my own power at the moment.

> I get caught up on the groups email and then I get behind again.

arrgghhhh!

> x0x0x0

> Shirley

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Thanks Jane. Oh I really realize how lucky I am with my MS. I know it could be worse and I am thankful for that everyday. It's just been a year and the Avonex has probalbly just started working. Or we'll know if it has I guess...lol I'm glad Marta has such high spirit. I know I will get a regular w/c. And that's good. I won't be able to use it in the house. OUr house isn't ready for a w/c, like the doorframes. But if I'm having a flare I couldn't move a w/c on my own. So the wheeled walker is good for me now. When I need it. Most of the time you'd know nothing was wrong with me. I have been using a borrowed w/c for a year now. It's old and it doesn't push easily. We used it last year in MD and DC. I have no problem using it! We get to do more now. The cooling vest has helped too.

Thanks,

x0x0x0

Shirley

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Shirley, I had written you a long response and all of a sudden"Poof!", it was gone to somewhere out in space. I'll try to rememberwhat I said before but if I can't just remember that it's part of theBF that I have also.I'm so sorry that your MS has obviously flared so much in the pastyear. It's hard to believe that you've actually even had thisdiagnosis that long. I'm sure each and every flare gets more and morefrightening...I have a friend in CA who has MS. Her son was goodfriends with my 30 year old son when they were in high school and shehad been dx'd 10 years or so before that. Her MS would flare for awhile and then go into remission, sometimes for several years. She'snow in her 50's and her husband has gone through the bit where he canno longer care for her at home so they found a wonderful new carefacility where all the patients have MS. Marta, being the organizerthat she is, has done all sorts of things to liven up the place, planoutings, and work as a teacher mentor to those who had basicallygotten so depressed about their plight but Marta has done wonders tohelp with the program. She said that since she was to the point whereshe needed someone to stay with her, why not go to this place duringthe week, and then on weekends, Dan and she have her at home stilldoing amazing things together. Marta remained mobile for a long timebecause her neuro prescribed an electric chair for her and she had alift in her van so she could still get out and do her volunteer workwith the kids schools. You are a long, long way from being as infirmed as Marta but I justwanted to tell you about her because even though she had several majorflares at first after she was first dx'd, she had many months andyears at a time when she was in remission. I hope that your new neurowill Rx a motorized chair for you. It will make it so much easier foryou to get around and allow you and Steve to do lots more thingstogether on weekends when you can get out and go. I am praying foryou that the yearly checkup doesn't show much change. Please tell ushow we can be of greater support to you if that is possible. We loveyou and know you have a fight on your hands to work with your dx andlive the life you and Steve want to live.Hugs and many prayers,Jane> I've been in a MS flare starting slowly on Thursday. By Sunday, Steve> called the neuro on call. I was put on 80 mgs of prednisone onSunday and> another 80 mgs today/Monday. I saw my new neuro today. I all ready had> this appt scheduled. It was my 1 year appt. I got a MRI done at6:30 pm> Monday. We'll see if there's any new activity or what. This was mysecond> flare this month. That's not typical of my MS. My last shower wasSaturday> morning and I got one Monday at 9 pm. Boy did it feel good. Ididn't move> much this weekend. I went from one couch where I sat, to the othercouch I> laid on and then to the bathroom. I was so weak I had to use mywalker with> wheels. That wore me out too. but I'm not bad enough for a scooter> according to my last neuro....lol I guess I'm not bad enough longenough or> just enough I guess....lol When I'm that weak I couldn't contol ascooter> anyways. I get vertigo so bad I couldn't see where I wasdriving....lol So> the wheeled walker is best I guess. But I'm better, I can't sleep I'm> hyped! But I can walk under my own power at the moment. > I get caught up on the groups email and then I get behind again. arrgghhhh!> x0x0x0> ShirleyPlease visit our website at:http://ACES_Autoimmune.tripod.com

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Thanks Jane. Oh I really realize how lucky I am with my MS. I know it could be worse and I am thankful for that everyday. It's just been a year and the Avonex has probalbly just started working. Or we'll know if it has I guess...lol I'm glad Marta has such high spirit. I know I will get a regular w/c. And that's good. I won't be able to use it in the house. OUr house isn't ready for a w/c, like the doorframes. But if I'm having a flare I couldn't move a w/c on my own. So the wheeled walker is good for me now. When I need it. Most of the time you'd know nothing was wrong with me. I have been using a borrowed w/c for a year now. It's old and it doesn't push easily. We used it last year in MD and DC. I have no problem using it! We get to do more now. The cooling vest has helped too.

Thanks,

x0x0x0

Shirley

-- Re: Shirley

Shirley, I had written you a long response and all of a sudden"Poof!", it was gone to somewhere out in space. I'll try to rememberwhat I said before but if I can't just remember that it's part of theBF that I have also.I'm so sorry that your MS has obviously flared so much in the pastyear. It's hard to believe that you've actually even had thisdiagnosis that long. I'm sure each and every flare gets more and morefrightening...I have a friend in CA who has MS. Her son was goodfriends with my 30 year old son when they were in high school and shehad been dx'd 10 years or so before that. Her MS would flare for awhile and then go into remission, sometimes for several years. She'snow in her 50's and her husband has gone through the bit where he canno longer care for her at home so they found a wonderful new carefacility where all the patients have MS. Marta, being the organizerthat she is, has done all sorts of things to liven up the place, planoutings, and work as a teacher mentor to those who had basicallygotten so depressed about their plight but Marta has done wonders tohelp with the program. She said that since she was to the point whereshe needed someone to stay with her, why not go to this place duringthe week, and then on weekends, Dan and she have her at home stilldoing amazing things together. Marta remained mobile for a long timebecause her neuro prescribed an electric chair for her and she had alift in her van so she could still get out and do her volunteer workwith the kids schools. You are a long, long way from being as infirmed as Marta but I justwanted to tell you about her because even though she had several majorflares at first after she was first dx'd, she had many months andyears at a time when she was in remission. I hope that your new neurowill Rx a motorized chair for you. It will make it so much easier foryou to get around and allow you and Steve to do lots more thingstogether on weekends when you can get out and go. I am praying foryou that the yearly checkup doesn't show much change. Please tell ushow we can be of greater support to you if that is possible. We loveyou and know you have a fight on your hands to work with your dx andlive the life you and Steve want to live.Hugs and many prayers,Jane> I've been in a MS flare starting slowly on Thursday. By Sunday, Steve> called the neuro on call. I was put on 80 mgs of prednisone onSunday and> another 80 mgs today/Monday. I saw my new neuro today. I all ready had> this appt scheduled. It was my 1 year appt. I got a MRI done at6:30 pm> Monday. We'll see if there's any new activity or what. This was mysecond> flare this month. That's not typical of my MS. My last shower wasSaturday> morning and I got one Monday at 9 pm. Boy did it feel good. Ididn't move> much this weekend. I went from one couch where I sat, to the othercouch I> laid on and then to the bathroom. I was so weak I had to use mywalker with> wheels. That wore me out too. but I'm not bad enough for a scooter> according to my last neuro....lol I guess I'm not bad enough longenough or> just enough I guess....lol When I'm that weak I couldn't contol ascooter> anyways. I get vertigo so bad I couldn't see where I wasdriving....lol So> the wheeled walker is best I guess. But I'm better, I can't sleep I'm> hyped! But I can walk under my own power at the moment. > I get caught up on the groups email and then I get behind again. arrgghhhh!> x0x0x0> ShirleyPlease visit our website at:http://ACES_Autoimmune.tripod.com

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thanks . I will survive. Done worry about me. But thanks!

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-- Shirley

Shirley,

I'm praying for you. I wish I could do more.

Hugs,

I got a shower, finally....lol

I've been in a MS flare starting slowly on Thursday. By Sunday, Steve called the neuro on call. I was put on 80 mgs of prednisone on Sunday and another 80 mgs today/Monday. I saw my new neuro today. I all ready had this appt scheduled. It was my 1 year appt. I got a MRI done at 6:30 pm Monday. We'll see if there's any new activity or what. This was my second flare this month. That's not typical of my MS. My last shower was Saturday morning and I got one Monday at 9 pm. Boy did it feel good. I didn't move much this weekend. I went from one couch where I sat, to the other couch I laid on and then to the bathroom. I was so weak I had to use my walker with wheels. That wore me out too. but I'm not bad enough for a scooter according to my last neuro....lol I guess I'm not bad enough long enough or just enough I guess....lol When I'm that weak I couldn't contol a scooter anyways. I get vertigo so bad I couldn't see where I was driving....lol So the wheeled walker is best I guess. But I'm better, I can't sleep I'm hyped! But I can walk under my own power at the moment.

I get caught up on the groups email and then I get behind again. arrgghhhh!

x0x0x0

Shirley

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very pretty. thanks for the heads up.

Shirls

-- Shirley

Shirls, I know you like those stretch watches that I've been hunting for. I just ordered three of them from a friend of mine that makes them. She has some that are a little bigger than normal so they don't leave marks on my arm and I was thrilled with them. If you email her and tell her you're a friend of mine (Christy from The Dock) she may cut the price a bit. Her name is Iris and the website is http://www.frostyiris.com/catalog/subcat20.shtml

ChristyPlease visit our website at:http://ACES_Autoimmune.tripod.com

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very pretty. thanks for the heads up.

Shirls

-- Shirley

Shirls, I know you like those stretch watches that I've been hunting for. I just ordered three of them from a friend of mine that makes them. She has some that are a little bigger than normal so they don't leave marks on my arm and I was thrilled with them. If you email her and tell her you're a friend of mine (Christy from The Dock) she may cut the price a bit. Her name is Iris and the website is http://www.frostyiris.com/catalog/subcat20.shtml

ChristyPlease visit our website at:http://ACES_Autoimmune.tripod.com

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very pretty. thanks for the heads up.

Shirls

-- Shirley

Shirls, I know you like those stretch watches that I've been hunting for. I just ordered three of them from a friend of mine that makes them. She has some that are a little bigger than normal so they don't leave marks on my arm and I was thrilled with them. If you email her and tell her you're a friend of mine (Christy from The Dock) she may cut the price a bit. Her name is Iris and the website is http://www.frostyiris.com/catalog/subcat20.shtml

ChristyPlease visit our website at:http://ACES_Autoimmune.tripod.com

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nothing scary there....lol Steve has to have scarey...lol

thanks!

Shirls

-- SHIRLEY

I'm shopping (I know, I know) but I've bought a few things from this seller before and they have some Halloween stuff up now at really cheap prices so I thought of you.

http://cgi6.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewSellersOtherItems & userid=jgrogg & include=0 & since=-1 & sort=3 & rows=50

JGROGG is the seller name if that link doesn't work.

ChristyPlease visit our website at:http://ACES_Autoimmune.tripod.com

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Janie,

THAT " S what I was thinking tonight at work about the ranges,sooooo,I'm gonna

walk over to his office tomorrow and get copies!! I've seen hundreds of values

lately and NONE that low!! He's going to lower my dose,,,, soooo ,The hospital

in McCall does them.That is the ranges he gave me today when I asked for them.

Shirl

Shirley

testing

Everytime I attempt to reply to Shirley's email, I get

the " unavailable " page. So am trying it again with a straight post:

Shirley, the numbers fit, but the ranges are very strange. Are you

sure those are the right ranges?? And what lab is this??

Janie

> TSH--0.01---.

> FT4-.087---(.59--1.5)

> FT3---2.30---(.2--1.79)

> Forgot to write down the range for TSH,,so why do I still feel so

crappy??

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testing

Everytime I attempt to reply to Shirley's email, I get

the " unavailable " page. So am trying it again with a straight post:

Shirley, the numbers fit, but the ranges are very strange. Are you

sure those are the right ranges?? And what lab is this??

Janie

> TSH--0.01---.

> FT4-.087---(.59--1.5)

> FT3---2.30---(.2--1.79)

> Forgot to write down the range for TSH,,so why do I still feel so

crappy??

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What do I do about Pancreatic problems? That's a whole new ballgame.

Shirley

Shirley

>

>

> testing

>

> Everytime I attempt to reply to Shirley's email, I get

> the " unavailable " page. So am trying it again with a straight

post:

>

> Shirley, the numbers fit, but the ranges are very strange. Are

you

> sure those are the right ranges?? And what lab is this??

>

> Janie

>

> > TSH--0.01---.

> > FT4-.087---(.59--1.5)

> > FT3---2.30---(.2--1.79)

> > Forgot to write down the range for TSH,,so why do I still feel

so

> crappy??

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Good Shirley. Because it doesn't look right, and I'm not sure I

would believe them even if they said the ranges were right. Let us

know. The 2.3 is characteristic of being quite lot in the free T3

range of most labs with different ranges. And if so, and if you have

that low of a TSH, also, you may have a pancreatic problem.

Janie

> Janie,

> THAT " S what I was thinking tonight at work about the

ranges,sooooo,I'm gonna walk over to his office tomorrow and get

copies!! I've seen hundreds of values lately and NONE that low!!

He's going to lower my dose,,,, soooo ,The hospital in McCall does

them.That is the ranges he gave me today when I asked for them.

> Shirl

> Shirley

>

>

> testing

>

> Everytime I attempt to reply to Shirley's email, I get

> the " unavailable " page. So am trying it again with a straight

post:

>

> Shirley, the numbers fit, but the ranges are very strange. Are

you

> sure those are the right ranges?? And what lab is this??

>

> Janie

>

> > TSH--0.01---.

> > FT4-.087---(.59--1.5)

> > FT3---2.30---(.2--1.79)

> > Forgot to write down the range for TSH,,so why do I still feel

so

> crappy??

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Janie,

I've been searching for hours and I can't find anything about the pancreas that

even remotely come's close to any symtoms I have. Do you have something about

it?

All I can say IS,he better not have lied to me!Someone will eat some tests!!!

Will post what I find out.

Thank's,

Shirley

Shirley

>

>

> testing

>

> Everytime I attempt to reply to Shirley's email, I get

> the " unavailable " page. So am trying it again with a straight

post:

>

> Shirley, the numbers fit, but the ranges are very strange. Are

you

> sure those are the right ranges?? And what lab is this??

>

> Janie

>

> > TSH--0.01---.

> > FT4-.087---(.59--1.5)

> > FT3---2.30---(.2--1.79)

> > Forgot to write down the range for TSH,,so why do I still feel

so

> crappy??

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I think Janie meant pituitary---not pancreatic...maybe she got her p's mixed

up.......LOL.....sue in TN

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> Janie,

> I've been searching for hours and I can't find anything about the pancreas

that even remotely come's close to any symtoms I have. Do you have something

about it?

> All I can say IS,he better not have lied to me!Someone will eat some tests!!!

> Will post what I find out.

> Thank's,

> Shirley

> Re: Shirley

>

>

> Good Shirley. Because it doesn't look right, and I'm not sure I

> would believe them even if they said the ranges were right. Let us

> know. The 2.3 is characteristic of being quite lot in the free T3

> range of most labs with different ranges. And if so, and if you have

> that low of a TSH, also, you may have a pancreatic problem.

>

> Janie

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Oh DUHHH! That is exactly what I did!! Geez. Laughing at myself.

Yes, it's PITUITARY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! hahaha

Janie

> I think Janie meant pituitary---not pancreatic...maybe she got her

>p's mixed up.......LOL.....sue in TN

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Janie,

Do you have any info on this?. Can't afford any more tests right now,is there

something I can buy from the HFS or do without being tested ? Thanks!

Shirley

Re: Shirley

Oh DUHHH! That is exactly what I did!! Geez. Laughing at myself.

Yes, it's PITUITARY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! hahaha

Janie

> I think Janie meant pituitary---not pancreatic...maybe she got her

>p's mixed up.......LOL.....sue in TN

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I will do that,have'nt made it over there yet,been very busy raising money for a

friend of ours who had a horse fall on him,spent a week and a half in the trauma

unit.

Do it Monday for sure,I agree,something is fishy about the ranges!

Shirley

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Shirley, I have volumes of info in my files, but remarkably, never

saved anything on the pituitary and secondary hypothyroid, which a

pituitary disorder or tumor (benign) causes. It was your odd test

results that made me wonder. You have an incredibly low T3 for

someone with such a LOW TSH (included below for those who didn't

know)!! But then again, you were going to check on those odd ranges,

too. For example, the range my lab uses for free T3 is 2.3 - 4.2.

SO, if your ranges that you gave are off, you may be VERY low if

your lab actually uses a range more similar to the above....

Give us an update on what you find out about those ranges you gave,

which seem so strange. Then we can better comment. OK?

Janie

TSH--0.01---.

FT4-.087---(.59--1.5)

FT3---2.30---(.2--1.79)

Forgot to write down the range for TSH,,so why do I still feel so

crappy??

> Janie,

> Do you have any info on this?. Can't afford any more tests right

now,is there something I can buy from the HFS or do without being

tested ? Thanks!

> Shirley

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