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Maybe it matters more where is on the charts...... what percentile is her weight at now? I don't remember seeing a post where you talked about castor oil packs. Sometimes I think I don't get all the mail......... ??

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stomach acid causing seizures?

I talked to our dietician tonight to tell her of's weight gain on the keto diet (5 pounds/3/4inches in the seven months we've been on). Sheactually didn't think this sounded alarming and didn'tthink we should alter calories. What do you allthink?Also, I mentioned the fact that when does have aseizure now, it's always between 4 and 6 a.m. Shegets out of bed, walks across the house and gets inbed with us swallowing really hard and looking off tothe right. She's usually talking during theseepisodes, which last about a minute. The very notablething is that her stomach is rumbling WILDLY -- likeno stomach grumbling you've ever heard. The dieticianexplained that at night, serotonin levels raise --that's why we don't awaken hungry -- but that thisalso increases stomach acid. She wondered if perhapsthe acidity wasn't what was causing seizures. I wasalso telling her that has never been at less thana 5 on the pH scale -- so she's always very acidic. She didn't really know what to do about this, butmentioned that I could try a little club soda, if shecomes in our room before a seizure starts. She'stypically very groggy, just waking up, so I honestlydon't know if I could get her to drink anything. Anyone have any thoughts -- either on this theory orabout what I can do about it (besides the castor oilpacks I posted about the other day. . .never heardback from anyone. . .perhaps you all think I'm off thedeep end now!).--D=====DeEtte -- Mom to (, 6, keto-kid since 1/01, med-free, seizures greatly reduced) and (, 4), sdale, AZ"I know God would never give me more than I can handle. . .I just wish he didn't trust me so much."__________________________________________________

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Good question. . .I don't know where she's falling on

the charts. She's always been at about the 5-10th

percentile. . . but she's seeming more " average " size

to me now. Anyone know where I can access a growth

chart to chart her myself?

Castor oil packs. . . we had 's check-up the other

day. Me and the girls go to a holistic MD -- she's

the closest I've ever found to someone who truly

merges conventional and alternative medicine. Anyway,

her mother actually founded holistic medicine -- her

Mom's name is Dr. Gladys McGrary, who's written

several books. My doctor's brother has epilepsy and

they actually had two other people -- a good family

friend and a neice -- who had seizures and also lived

with their family at various times. Dr. McGrary

treated all of them -- successfully -- using castor

oil packs and passionflower extract. Her son, my

doctor's brother, has never been on seizure meds.

He's now a minister and still has seizures -- but

about once every 10 years. Anyway, when I mentioned

the stomach rumbling to her, she thought it might be

worth a try because this is what's recommended when

you look up " abdominal epilepsy " at www.

meridianinstitute.com. That's how they've been

treating seizures, too. They believe that there is an

abdominal brain -- and that there are abdominal

seizures -- which sounds very much like what has.

It's kind of a " wacky " -- :-) -- theory. . . but when

have I ever let that stop me. Essentially, you soak

cloth in castor oil, apply the cloth covered with

plastic and a towel on the abdomen and apply heat --

heating pad or hot water bottle -- for about an hour,

on three consecutive days/week and then massage the

abdomen. This is supposed to help rid the body of

toxins which are causing the abdominal seizures.

There's a book written by Dr. Gladys' husband, " The

Oil That Heals " that talks about all kinds of

applications for castor oil. . .haven't read it yet,

but I plan to get a copy.

Wacky enough for you?--D

--- Patti wrote:

> De....

> Maybe it matters more where is on the

> charts...... what percentile is her weight at now? I

> don't remember seeing a post where you talked about

> castor oil packs. Sometimes I think I don't get all

> the mail......... ??

>

> Patti

> stomach acid causing

> seizures?

>

>

> I talked to our dietician tonight to tell her of

> 's weight gain on the keto diet (5 pounds/3/4

> inches in the seven months we've been on). She

> actually didn't think this sounded alarming and

> didn't

> think we should alter calories. What do you all

> think?

>

> Also, I mentioned the fact that when does

> have a

> seizure now, it's always between 4 and 6 a.m. She

> gets out of bed, walks across the house and gets

> in

> bed with us swallowing really hard and looking off

> to

> the right. She's usually talking during these

> episodes, which last about a minute. The very

> notable

> thing is that her stomach is rumbling WILDLY --

> like

> no stomach grumbling you've ever heard. The

> dietician

> explained that at night, serotonin levels raise --

> that's why we don't awaken hungry -- but that this

> also increases stomach acid. She wondered if

> perhaps

> the acidity wasn't what was causing seizures. I

> was

> also telling her that has never been at less

> than

> a 5 on the pH scale -- so she's always very

> acidic.

> She didn't really know what to do about this, but

> mentioned that I could try a little club soda, if

> she

> comes in our room before a seizure starts. She's

> typically very groggy, just waking up, so I

> honestly

> don't know if I could get her to drink anything.

> Anyone have any thoughts -- either on this theory

> or

> about what I can do about it (besides the castor

> oil

> packs I posted about the other day. . .never heard

> back from anyone. . .perhaps you all think I'm off

> the

> deep end now!).--D

>

> =====

> DeEtte -- Mom to (, 6, keto-kid since 1/01,

> med-free, seizures greatly reduced) and (,

> 4), sdale, AZ

>

> " I know God would never give me more than I can

> handle. . .I just wish he didn't trust me so much. "

>

> __________________________________________________

>

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DeEtte,

I was also surprised that Rohan had gained over 2lb in

less than a month inspite of a recent calorie-cut. He also

had a sleep sz this morning at 5am. First he called out

then had a GM type sz with eyes wide open, made

swallowing movements at the end and said something again.

I noticed that his stomach was rumbling, as I'd done

before with some sleep sz. His usual sleep-sz are 1-2 hrs

after going to bed at night.

I'd be very interested to see what further suggestions your

dietician might have. Unfortunately we don't have one

and his dr. is not helpful with this sort of thing.

BTW I haven't seen your post about castor oil.

Maybe I'm not getting all the posts.

Saro

DeEtte Person wrote:

I talked to our dietician tonight to tell her

of

's weight gain on the keto diet (5 pounds/3/4

inches in the seven months we've been on). She

actually didn't think this sounded alarming and didn't

think we should alter calories. What do you all

think?

Also, I mentioned the fact that when does have a

seizure now, it's always between 4 and 6 a.m. She

gets out of bed, walks across the house and gets in

bed with us swallowing really hard and looking off to

the right. She's usually talking during these

episodes, which last about a minute. The very notable

thing is that her stomach is rumbling WILDLY -- like

no stomach grumbling you've ever heard. The dietician

explained that at night, serotonin levels raise --

that's why we don't awaken hungry -- but that this

also increases stomach acid. She wondered if perhaps

the acidity wasn't what was causing seizures. I was

also telling her that has never been at less than

a 5 on the pH scale -- so she's always very acidic.

She didn't really know what to do about this, but

mentioned that I could try a little club soda, if she

comes in our room before a seizure starts. She's

typically very groggy, just waking up, so I honestly

don't know if I could get her to drink anything.

Anyone have any thoughts -- either on this theory or

about what I can do about it (besides the castor oil

packs I posted about the other day. . .never heard

back from anyone. . .perhaps you all think I'm off the

deep end now!).--D

=====

DeEtte -- Mom to (, 6, keto-kid since 1/01, med-free, seizures

greatly reduced) and (, 4), sdale, AZ

"I know God would never give me more than I can handle. . .I just

wish he didn't trust me so much."

__________________________________________________

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I suppose anything's possible -- but she also

complains that her tummy hurts. I really do think

it's something abdominal and think that the abdominal

epilepsy description I read at the Meridian

Institute's web site is the closest description I've

ever read to what she seem to be going through. It

also starts before the seizure begins, so I don't

think it's her swallowing air since it's before she

starts swallowing hard -- but who knows!--D

--- myketokid@... wrote:

> De,

> I don't have any suggestions, but was wondering if

> the stomach rumbling

> could be swallowed air. Prediet, when 's

> seizures were worse in

> intensity, we would hear some stomach rumbling. He

> has complex partials

> and does a lot of lip smacking during a seizure, so

> I kinda assumed it

> was swallowed air.

> Kathy in Tennessee

> Mom to - 6 - Keto kid since 02/00, Med free,

> seizures 95% reduced

> Mom to 'lil sis, a - 3

> " Even to your old age and gray hairs I am He, I am

> He who will sustain

> you. I have made you and I will carry you; I will

> sustain you and I will

> rescue you. "

> Isaiah 46:4

>

>

> On Wed, 8 Aug 2001 21:59:22 -0700 (PDT) DeEtte

> Person

> writes:

> > I talked to our dietician tonight to tell her of

> > 's weight gain on the keto diet (5 pounds/3/4

> > inches in the seven months we've been on). She

> > actually didn't think this sounded alarming and

> didn't

> > think we should alter calories. What do you all

> > think?

> >

> > Also, I mentioned the fact that when does

> have a

> > seizure now, it's always between 4 and 6 a.m. She

> > gets out of bed, walks across the house and gets

> in

> > bed with us swallowing really hard and looking off

> to

> > the right. She's usually talking during these

> > episodes, which last about a minute. The very

> notable

> > thing is that her stomach is rumbling WILDLY --

> like

> > no stomach grumbling you've ever heard. The

> dietician

> > explained that at night, serotonin levels raise --

> > that's why we don't awaken hungry -- but that this

> > also increases stomach acid. She wondered if

> perhaps

> > the acidity wasn't what was causing seizures. I

> was

> > also telling her that has never been at less

> than

> > a 5 on the pH scale -- so she's always very

> acidic.

> > She didn't really know what to do about this, but

> > mentioned that I could try a little club soda, if

> she

> > comes in our room before a seizure starts. She's

> > typically very groggy, just waking up, so I

> honestly

> > don't know if I could get her to drink anything.

> > Anyone have any thoughts -- either on this theory

> or

> > about what I can do about it (besides the castor

> oil

> > packs I posted about the other day. . .never heard

> > back from anyone. . .perhaps you all think I'm off

> the

> > deep end now!).--D

> >

> > =====

> > DeEtte -- Mom to (, 6, keto-kid since 1/01,

> med-free, seizures

> > greatly reduced) and (, 4), sdale, AZ

> >

> > " I know God would never give me more than I can

> handle. . .I just

> > wish he didn't trust me so much. "

> >

> > __________________________________________________

> >

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