Guest guest Posted March 6, 2007 Report Share Posted March 6, 2007 You're definitely right about a sugar binge being worse for your body (heart in particular). I am working on bulimia/binge eating disorder, too. And, the ed has caused problems w/ my heart. My doctor hasn't diagnosed me yet. But, I notice my symptoms go way up right after a binge (heart palpitations, extra beats, etc.) And, when I bingeing regularly, I notice symptoms way more frequently. But, anyway, what I'm trying to say is that in my opinion you'd be better off to eat intuitively, even if that means more sugar than your doctor recommends. Because if the alternative is following the diet he gave you and having binges, then that's not going to do you any good. You'll probably consume the same amount of (if not more) sugar overall. But, the binge is such a shock to your body that it causes more damage. That's just my opinion... > > Basically, I've been slowly getting better from bulimia the past 8 > years; the bulimia, however, has evolved into binge eating disorder, > so I've been stuck in that for quite a while. I'm getting better with > it, and I beleive intuitive eating is the last step toward my > recovery. > > The only problem is, I was recently diagnosed with Mitral Valve > Prolapse Syndrome, which is different than just MVP...it's a mild > connective tissue disorder that makes itself most known as a heart > defect. In any case, I might have to make some serious diet changes > soon.... > > I would like to switch to eating more whole foods; I was reading > about MVP syndrome the other day and they said that if there is once > substance that is absolute poison to MVPers, it's sugar...when I > allow myself to eat intuitively, I eat a LOT of sugar! Maybe I'm > still on the stages of eating all the bad stuff and it will get > better soon, but for my heart, I think I have to make some concious > changes sooner than I would like to intuitively... > > I'm afraid that if I change my diet too much, I'll binge more, and > the bingeing will be extra bad on my body because I won't even have > the sugar tolerance I have now. > > Any thoughts?? > > Thanks so much, and I look forward to being in this group! > > Renata > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 6, 2007 Report Share Posted March 6, 2007 > You're definitely right about a sugar binge being worse for your body > (heart in particular). I just finished reading a book called " Sugar Shock " - what an eye-opener about the dangers of over-indulging in sugar!! It is really an informative book and if you want reasons to quit sugar, just read it. AMAZING!! Not that I necessarily agree with the " never eat sugar again, it is evil " philosophy - I live by the belief that ALL foods in moderation are acceptable. But sugar is indeed damaging and needs to be watched. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 6, 2007 Report Share Posted March 6, 2007 > You're definitely right about a sugar binge being worse for your body > (heart in particular). I just finished reading a book called " Sugar Shock " - what an eye-opener about the dangers of over-indulging in sugar!! It is really an informative book and if you want reasons to quit sugar, just read it. AMAZING!! Not that I necessarily agree with the " never eat sugar again, it is evil " philosophy - I live by the belief that ALL foods in moderation are acceptable. But sugar is indeed damaging and needs to be watched. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 6, 2007 Report Share Posted March 6, 2007 > You're definitely right about a sugar binge being worse for your body > (heart in particular). I just finished reading a book called " Sugar Shock " - what an eye-opener about the dangers of over-indulging in sugar!! It is really an informative book and if you want reasons to quit sugar, just read it. AMAZING!! Not that I necessarily agree with the " never eat sugar again, it is evil " philosophy - I live by the belief that ALL foods in moderation are acceptable. But sugar is indeed damaging and needs to be watched. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 6, 2007 Report Share Posted March 6, 2007 I completely agree with this….the minute that sugar and white flours go on your “forbidden foods” list, you just want more. This way, if you allow yourself to eat it, you will most likely eat less. From: IntuitiveEating_Support [mailto:IntuitiveEating_Support ] On Behalf Of katzrule16 Sent: Tuesday, March 06, 2007 5:11 AM To: IntuitiveEating_Support Subject: Re: Hey, all! You're definitely right about a sugar binge being worse for your body (heart in particular). I am working on bulimia/binge eating disorder, too. And, the ed has caused problems w/ my heart. My doctor hasn't diagnosed me yet. But, I notice my symptoms go way up right after a binge (heart palpitations, extra beats, etc.) And, when I bingeing regularly, I notice symptoms way more frequently. But, anyway, what I'm trying to say is that in my opinion you'd be better off to eat intuitively, even if that means more sugar than your doctor recommends. Because if the alternative is following the diet he gave you and having binges, then that's not going to do you any good. You'll probably consume the same amount of (if not more) sugar overall. But, the binge is such a shock to your body that it causes more damage. That's just my opinion... > > Basically, I've been slowly getting better from bulimia the past 8 > years; the bulimia, however, has evolved into binge eating disorder, > so I've been stuck in that for quite a while. I'm getting better with > it, and I beleive intuitive eating is the last step toward my > recovery. > > The only problem is, I was recently diagnosed with Mitral Valve > Prolapse Syndrome, which is different than just MVP...it's a mild > connective tissue disorder that makes itself most known as a heart > defect. In any case, I might have to make some serious diet changes > soon.... > > I would like to switch to eating more whole foods; I was reading > about MVP syndrome the other day and they said that if there is once > substance that is absolute poison to MVPers, it's sugar...when I > allow myself to eat intuitively, I eat a LOT of sugar! Maybe I'm > still on the stages of eating all the bad stuff and it will get > better soon, but for my heart, I think I have to make some concious > changes sooner than I would like to intuitively... > > I'm afraid that if I change my diet too much, I'll binge more, and > the bingeing will be extra bad on my body because I won't even have > the sugar tolerance I have now. > > Any thoughts?? > > Thanks so much, and I look forward to being in this group! > > Renata > -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.446 / Virus Database: 268.18.7/711 - Release Date: 3/5/2007 9:41 AM -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.446 / Virus Database: 268.18.7/711 - Release Date: 3/5/2007 9:41 AM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 6, 2007 Report Share Posted March 6, 2007 I completely agree with this….the minute that sugar and white flours go on your “forbidden foods” list, you just want more. This way, if you allow yourself to eat it, you will most likely eat less. From: IntuitiveEating_Support [mailto:IntuitiveEating_Support ] On Behalf Of katzrule16 Sent: Tuesday, March 06, 2007 5:11 AM To: IntuitiveEating_Support Subject: Re: Hey, all! You're definitely right about a sugar binge being worse for your body (heart in particular). I am working on bulimia/binge eating disorder, too. And, the ed has caused problems w/ my heart. My doctor hasn't diagnosed me yet. But, I notice my symptoms go way up right after a binge (heart palpitations, extra beats, etc.) And, when I bingeing regularly, I notice symptoms way more frequently. But, anyway, what I'm trying to say is that in my opinion you'd be better off to eat intuitively, even if that means more sugar than your doctor recommends. Because if the alternative is following the diet he gave you and having binges, then that's not going to do you any good. You'll probably consume the same amount of (if not more) sugar overall. But, the binge is such a shock to your body that it causes more damage. That's just my opinion... > > Basically, I've been slowly getting better from bulimia the past 8 > years; the bulimia, however, has evolved into binge eating disorder, > so I've been stuck in that for quite a while. I'm getting better with > it, and I beleive intuitive eating is the last step toward my > recovery. > > The only problem is, I was recently diagnosed with Mitral Valve > Prolapse Syndrome, which is different than just MVP...it's a mild > connective tissue disorder that makes itself most known as a heart > defect. In any case, I might have to make some serious diet changes > soon.... > > I would like to switch to eating more whole foods; I was reading > about MVP syndrome the other day and they said that if there is once > substance that is absolute poison to MVPers, it's sugar...when I > allow myself to eat intuitively, I eat a LOT of sugar! Maybe I'm > still on the stages of eating all the bad stuff and it will get > better soon, but for my heart, I think I have to make some concious > changes sooner than I would like to intuitively... > > I'm afraid that if I change my diet too much, I'll binge more, and > the bingeing will be extra bad on my body because I won't even have > the sugar tolerance I have now. > > Any thoughts?? > > Thanks so much, and I look forward to being in this group! > > Renata > -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.446 / Virus Database: 268.18.7/711 - Release Date: 3/5/2007 9:41 AM -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.446 / Virus Database: 268.18.7/711 - Release Date: 3/5/2007 9:41 AM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 6, 2007 Report Share Posted March 6, 2007 I completely agree with this….the minute that sugar and white flours go on your “forbidden foods” list, you just want more. This way, if you allow yourself to eat it, you will most likely eat less. From: IntuitiveEating_Support [mailto:IntuitiveEating_Support ] On Behalf Of katzrule16 Sent: Tuesday, March 06, 2007 5:11 AM To: IntuitiveEating_Support Subject: Re: Hey, all! You're definitely right about a sugar binge being worse for your body (heart in particular). I am working on bulimia/binge eating disorder, too. And, the ed has caused problems w/ my heart. My doctor hasn't diagnosed me yet. But, I notice my symptoms go way up right after a binge (heart palpitations, extra beats, etc.) And, when I bingeing regularly, I notice symptoms way more frequently. But, anyway, what I'm trying to say is that in my opinion you'd be better off to eat intuitively, even if that means more sugar than your doctor recommends. Because if the alternative is following the diet he gave you and having binges, then that's not going to do you any good. You'll probably consume the same amount of (if not more) sugar overall. But, the binge is such a shock to your body that it causes more damage. That's just my opinion... > > Basically, I've been slowly getting better from bulimia the past 8 > years; the bulimia, however, has evolved into binge eating disorder, > so I've been stuck in that for quite a while. I'm getting better with > it, and I beleive intuitive eating is the last step toward my > recovery. > > The only problem is, I was recently diagnosed with Mitral Valve > Prolapse Syndrome, which is different than just MVP...it's a mild > connective tissue disorder that makes itself most known as a heart > defect. In any case, I might have to make some serious diet changes > soon.... > > I would like to switch to eating more whole foods; I was reading > about MVP syndrome the other day and they said that if there is once > substance that is absolute poison to MVPers, it's sugar...when I > allow myself to eat intuitively, I eat a LOT of sugar! Maybe I'm > still on the stages of eating all the bad stuff and it will get > better soon, but for my heart, I think I have to make some concious > changes sooner than I would like to intuitively... > > I'm afraid that if I change my diet too much, I'll binge more, and > the bingeing will be extra bad on my body because I won't even have > the sugar tolerance I have now. > > Any thoughts?? > > Thanks so much, and I look forward to being in this group! > > Renata > -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.446 / Virus Database: 268.18.7/711 - Release Date: 3/5/2007 9:41 AM -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.446 / Virus Database: 268.18.7/711 - Release Date: 3/5/2007 9:41 AM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 6, 2007 Report Share Posted March 6, 2007 > > I just finished reading a book called " Sugar Shock " - what an > eye-opener about the dangers of over-indulging in sugar!! I haven't read this book, but I wonder if part of the problem isn't the " sugar " - the REAL sugar, but the high-fructose corn syrup that invades everything we eat. That is the stuff I try to stay away from when I have a choice. I'll eat sweets sometimes, but I try to eat " real " food, not something completely processed so as to become something else. (Corn is not sugar - corn is corn.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 6, 2007 Report Share Posted March 6, 2007 I totally agree - HFCS IS the real problem and I too believe in eating " real " food as opposed to processed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 6, 2007 Report Share Posted March 6, 2007 I wonder about the HFCS too. I was in the supermarket trying to buy healthier yogurt rather than the stuff with aspartame and I found that they all have HFCS--even the ones with aspartame! Keep in mind that HFCS is not the same thing as regular corn syrup. Regular corn syrup (especially dark corn syrup), like Caro, is actually a bit better than refined cane sugar. I guess what bothers me is sweeteners in foods that don't really need sweeteners, like bread. And, I don't like that things are sweeter than they used to be. I would love to find strawberry or blueberry yogurt that has some of the tartness I remember in yogurt from 30 years ago. I'd actually like to taste the fruit, not just the sweet. > > > > > I just finished reading a book called " Sugar Shock " - what an > > eye-opener about the dangers of over-indulging in sugar!! > > I haven't read this book, but I wonder if part of the problem isn't > the " sugar " - the REAL sugar, but the high-fructose corn syrup that > invades everything we eat. That is the stuff I try to stay away from > when I have a choice. I'll eat sweets sometimes, but I try to eat > " real " food, not something completely processed so as to become > something else. (Corn is not sugar - corn is corn.) > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 6, 2007 Report Share Posted March 6, 2007 I wonder about the HFCS too. I was in the supermarket trying to buy healthier yogurt rather than the stuff with aspartame and I found that they all have HFCS--even the ones with aspartame! Keep in mind that HFCS is not the same thing as regular corn syrup. Regular corn syrup (especially dark corn syrup), like Caro, is actually a bit better than refined cane sugar. I guess what bothers me is sweeteners in foods that don't really need sweeteners, like bread. And, I don't like that things are sweeter than they used to be. I would love to find strawberry or blueberry yogurt that has some of the tartness I remember in yogurt from 30 years ago. I'd actually like to taste the fruit, not just the sweet. > > > > > I just finished reading a book called " Sugar Shock " - what an > > eye-opener about the dangers of over-indulging in sugar!! > > I haven't read this book, but I wonder if part of the problem isn't > the " sugar " - the REAL sugar, but the high-fructose corn syrup that > invades everything we eat. That is the stuff I try to stay away from > when I have a choice. I'll eat sweets sometimes, but I try to eat > " real " food, not something completely processed so as to become > something else. (Corn is not sugar - corn is corn.) > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 6, 2007 Report Share Posted March 6, 2007 Well, in this book I read, it says that HFCS is SO prevelant because it is cheaper to manufacture than sugar cane. That is why more and more food items are being made with it. They have all but stopped manufacturing regular sugar which mostly came from beets and sugar cane. The book had the whole metabolic structure for HFCS in it (how your body metabolizes it) and because it packs such a " sugar " punch (it is many times sweeter than sugar) alot, if not most of it gets stored as fat because your own bodies metabolism can't keep up with the rate at which it is dumped into the liver or pancreas (I can't remember which). The #1 reason I don't drink soda -- Lori > > I wonder about the HFCS too. I was in the supermarket trying to buy > healthier yogurt rather than the stuff with aspartame and I found that > they all have HFCS--even the ones with aspartame! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 6, 2007 Report Share Posted March 6, 2007 > > Well, in this book I read, it says that HFCS is SO prevelant because > it is cheaper to manufacture than sugar cane. Absolutely true! Plus, they tend to replace the " fat " in " low-fat " or " fat-free " products with HFCS to add sweetness, where there should have been flavor in the " fat " -- otherwise there would be no taste at all. I buy really thick plain yogurt (like Fage) and I add my own fruit and just a tiny bit of brown sugar. YUM!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 6, 2007 Report Share Posted March 6, 2007 > > Well, in this book I read, it says that HFCS is SO prevelant because > it is cheaper to manufacture than sugar cane. Absolutely true! Plus, they tend to replace the " fat " in " low-fat " or " fat-free " products with HFCS to add sweetness, where there should have been flavor in the " fat " -- otherwise there would be no taste at all. I buy really thick plain yogurt (like Fage) and I add my own fruit and just a tiny bit of brown sugar. YUM!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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