Guest guest Posted August 4, 1999 Report Share Posted August 4, 1999 Kim, I think what is important is that you made your own decisions. There was a time that I would have said, Kim can do it, so can I. As you know, I don't beleivethisnow. I am and me and you are you....In fact I don't believe I can even learn from your experience....So I hope it's not too radical to say that really only you learned something from your drunk. Now here is one word of advise, if you don't get offended...get lots of rest, eat well...and move on..I accept that you could tell me shove my advise up my rump, but it is meant in the very best spirit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 4, 1999 Report Share Posted August 4, 1999 So sorry to hear about your yukky experience, Kim. Hope you're feeling a bit better now. > > I disagree with 's brother that alcohol is no more poisonous than mashed potatoes. > > Yes, but even mashed potatoes will make you upchuck if you eat an unnatural, unhealthy amount. It is not alcohol per se that is bad for your stomach, liver, kidneys ... It is large quantities, consumed faster than the body can reasonably process it... Remember, Kim, you can certainly live a happy, healthy life if you abstain totally. It's a valid choice, and the right one for many. But there is no reason to conclude that the only alternative to abstaining is poisoning yourself by sucking down 2 liters of wine. After allowing your body to recover from the punishing experience, you might want to think about what you've learned from the experience. I still recommend reading Peele or Kishline on moderation, and consider making an absolute commitment to moderation. ~Rita -------------------------------- kim rh wrote: > > I got drunk (on PURPOSE, I did it, MY choice-Aaaargh!)I drank 2 litres > of wine cooler. I didn't like not feeling in control of my body > (eg-uncoordinated, etc)and I WAS still able to think " sensibly " . Then > I got a headache, was dizzy, and threw up. Today I still feel like > crap, my head feels really fuzzy- a stronger version of the feeling I > had after just one drink. I feel like crap, alcohol sucks!(!!!)NEVER > AGAIN, let me tell you. YUK.Aaargh!!! Plus this 1 and 1/2- 2 days of > feeling like crap cost me $10.00!(The government controls the liquor > business here- can you tell?) > > I think NA IS right in the sense that it IS screwed up for nearly > everyone in society to drink alcohol and it's considered normal. (It's > also considered normal to go to church, but that's another story). > > I disagree with 's brother that alcohol is no more poisonous than > mashed potatoes. I think that alcohol is a poison like magic mushrooms. > Even after just one drink, my body was having trouble with coordination > and there was a negative after effect that I did not like( feeling > fuzzy in the head). I'll stick with potatoes they're much friendlier. > > NOw kids- don't try this at home! Remember-puking and hangovers > SUCK!!! > kim > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 4, 1999 Report Share Posted August 4, 1999 Most drugs are poison if you have too much of them too fast. In the proper amounts they are beneficial, even alcohol. I was once at a New Year's Eve party where the hostess said to me that she wanted to get blasted, would I please make sure that things didn't get out of control. It was a huge party, several hundred people, and not only did I only drink 4 drinks between 7 PM and 5 AM (when I poured the last celebrant into a cab), I also had the benefit of lots of adrenalin to keep me alert, because that many people in 3000 sq. ft. can definitely be a problem. Then I had to take a cab home myself, because my escort was by then unfit to drive, probably more from fatigue than liquor. wrote: original article:/group/12-step-free/?start=6964 > > I got drunk (on PURPOSE, I did it, MY choice-Aaaargh!)I drank 2 litres > of wine cooler. I didn't like not feeling in control of my body > (eg-uncoordinated, etc)and I WAS still able to think " sensibly " . Then > I got a headache, was dizzy, and threw up. Today I still feel like > crap, my head feels really fuzzy- a stronger version of the feeling I > had after just one drink. I feel like crap, alcohol sucks!(!!!)NEVER > AGAIN, let me tell you. YUK.Aaargh!!! Plus this 1 and 1/2- 2 days of > feeling like crap cost me $10.00!(The government controls the liquor > business here- can you tell?) > > I think NA IS right in the sense that it IS screwed up for nearly > everyone in society to drink alcohol and it's considered normal. (It's > also considered normal to go to church, but that's another story). > > I disagree with 's brother that alcohol is no more poisonous than > mashed potatoes. I think that alcohol is a poison like magic mushrooms. > Even after just one drink, my body was having trouble with coordination > and there was a negative after effect that I did not like( feeling > fuzzy in the head). I'll stick with potatoes they're much friendlier. > > NOw kids- don't try this at home! Remember-puking and hangovers > SUCK!!! > kim > _____________________________________________________________ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 4, 1999 Report Share Posted August 4, 1999 Most drugs are poison if you have too much of them too fast. In the proper amounts they are beneficial, even alcohol. I was once at a New Year's Eve party where the hostess said to me that she wanted to get blasted, would I please make sure that things didn't get out of control. It was a huge party, several hundred people, and not only did I only drink 4 drinks between 7 PM and 5 AM (when I poured the last celebrant into a cab), I also had the benefit of lots of adrenalin to keep me alert, because that many people in 3000 sq. ft. can definitely be a problem. Then I had to take a cab home myself, because my escort was by then unfit to drive, probably more from fatigue than liquor. wrote: original article:/group/12-step-free/?start=6964 > > I got drunk (on PURPOSE, I did it, MY choice-Aaaargh!)I drank 2 litres > of wine cooler. I didn't like not feeling in control of my body > (eg-uncoordinated, etc)and I WAS still able to think " sensibly " . Then > I got a headache, was dizzy, and threw up. Today I still feel like > crap, my head feels really fuzzy- a stronger version of the feeling I > had after just one drink. I feel like crap, alcohol sucks!(!!!)NEVER > AGAIN, let me tell you. YUK.Aaargh!!! Plus this 1 and 1/2- 2 days of > feeling like crap cost me $10.00!(The government controls the liquor > business here- can you tell?) > > I think NA IS right in the sense that it IS screwed up for nearly > everyone in society to drink alcohol and it's considered normal. (It's > also considered normal to go to church, but that's another story). > > I disagree with 's brother that alcohol is no more poisonous than > mashed potatoes. I think that alcohol is a poison like magic mushrooms. > Even after just one drink, my body was having trouble with coordination > and there was a negative after effect that I did not like( feeling > fuzzy in the head). I'll stick with potatoes they're much friendlier. > > NOw kids- don't try this at home! Remember-puking and hangovers > SUCK!!! > kim > _____________________________________________________________ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 5, 1999 Report Share Posted August 5, 1999 Dear Kim; Having repeated your experience many times, I must agree, puking and hangovers do suck. Whether one gets drunk intentionally or from that nasty habit borne compulsion, the results seem pretty much the same. Fortunately it ain't terminal, only feels that way. I can agree with 's brother's statement as far as it goes. Folks like me develop I believe a pattern of behavior in regard to the use of alcohol and unless that is changed, I believe the result is not a great one. I don't believe any length of abstinence prepares a person to moderate. Abstinence is just the flip side of drinking whiskey by the quart. Healthy drinking habits are an experience over time IMO and aren't a by-product of abstinence. I believe forming moderate drinking habits takes an investment in time, just like making anything a habit. My own case may not apply as I drank to stop pain. A physical pain with an emotional base. When the pain was gone, so was the need for the " Pain Remover " . Over time I have developed the habit of not going to drinking affairs, with a few exceptions, those being friend's birthday parties or Christmas Parties where I know most everyone. Working for myself, I don't need to go to those lunches with the boss or clients, thus I'm in very few situations where drinking is the norm. Point of all this, is I don't need alcohol in my life and don't want to invest the time time involved for the planning, carrying out the plan etc. Short version " If it works don't fix it. " Send reply to: 12-step-freeegroups Date sent: Wed, 4 Aug 1999 14:53:26 -0700 (PDT) To: 12-step-freeegroups Subject: Yuk- I got drunk > > I got drunk (on PURPOSE, I did it, MY choice-Aaaargh!)I drank 2 litres > of wine cooler. I didn't like not feeling in control of my body > (eg-uncoordinated, etc)and I WAS still able to think " sensibly " . Then > I got a headache, was dizzy, and threw up. Today I still feel like > crap, my head feels really fuzzy- a stronger version of the feeling I > had after just one drink. I feel like crap, alcohol sucks!(!!!)NEVER > AGAIN, let me tell you. YUK.Aaargh!!! Plus this 1 and 1/2- 2 days of > feeling like crap cost me $10.00!(The government controls the liquor > business here- can you tell?) > > I think NA IS right in the sense that it IS screwed up for nearly > everyone in society to drink alcohol and it's considered normal. (It's > also considered normal to go to church, but that's another story). > > I disagree with 's brother that alcohol is no more poisonous than > mashed potatoes. I think that alcohol is a poison like magic mushrooms. > Even after just one drink, my body was having trouble with coordination > and there was a negative after effect that I did not like( feeling > fuzzy in the head). I'll stick with potatoes they're much friendlier. > > NOw kids- don't try this at home! Remember-puking and hangovers > SUCK!!! > kim > _____________________________________________________________ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 5, 1999 Report Share Posted August 5, 1999 Dear Kim; Having repeated your experience many times, I must agree, puking and hangovers do suck. Whether one gets drunk intentionally or from that nasty habit borne compulsion, the results seem pretty much the same. Fortunately it ain't terminal, only feels that way. I can agree with 's brother's statement as far as it goes. Folks like me develop I believe a pattern of behavior in regard to the use of alcohol and unless that is changed, I believe the result is not a great one. I don't believe any length of abstinence prepares a person to moderate. Abstinence is just the flip side of drinking whiskey by the quart. Healthy drinking habits are an experience over time IMO and aren't a by-product of abstinence. I believe forming moderate drinking habits takes an investment in time, just like making anything a habit. My own case may not apply as I drank to stop pain. A physical pain with an emotional base. When the pain was gone, so was the need for the " Pain Remover " . Over time I have developed the habit of not going to drinking affairs, with a few exceptions, those being friend's birthday parties or Christmas Parties where I know most everyone. Working for myself, I don't need to go to those lunches with the boss or clients, thus I'm in very few situations where drinking is the norm. Point of all this, is I don't need alcohol in my life and don't want to invest the time time involved for the planning, carrying out the plan etc. Short version " If it works don't fix it. " Send reply to: 12-step-freeegroups Date sent: Wed, 4 Aug 1999 14:53:26 -0700 (PDT) To: 12-step-freeegroups Subject: Yuk- I got drunk > > I got drunk (on PURPOSE, I did it, MY choice-Aaaargh!)I drank 2 litres > of wine cooler. I didn't like not feeling in control of my body > (eg-uncoordinated, etc)and I WAS still able to think " sensibly " . Then > I got a headache, was dizzy, and threw up. Today I still feel like > crap, my head feels really fuzzy- a stronger version of the feeling I > had after just one drink. I feel like crap, alcohol sucks!(!!!)NEVER > AGAIN, let me tell you. YUK.Aaargh!!! Plus this 1 and 1/2- 2 days of > feeling like crap cost me $10.00!(The government controls the liquor > business here- can you tell?) > > I think NA IS right in the sense that it IS screwed up for nearly > everyone in society to drink alcohol and it's considered normal. (It's > also considered normal to go to church, but that's another story). > > I disagree with 's brother that alcohol is no more poisonous than > mashed potatoes. I think that alcohol is a poison like magic mushrooms. > Even after just one drink, my body was having trouble with coordination > and there was a negative after effect that I did not like( feeling > fuzzy in the head). I'll stick with potatoes they're much friendlier. > > NOw kids- don't try this at home! Remember-puking and hangovers > SUCK!!! > kim > _____________________________________________________________ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 5, 1999 Report Share Posted August 5, 1999 Hi Kim, I've got an idea now for a new anti-alcohol commercial. This is your brain - picture of potatoes. This is your brain on alcohol - picture of mashed potatoes. Oh well, couldn't resist. Jan Yuk- I got drunk > >I got drunk (on PURPOSE, I did it, MY choice-Aaaargh!)I drank 2 litres >of wine cooler. I didn't like not feeling in control of my body >(eg-uncoordinated, etc)and I WAS still able to think " sensibly " . Then >I got a headache, was dizzy, and threw up. Today I still feel like >crap, my head feels really fuzzy- a stronger version of the feeling I >had after just one drink. I feel like crap, alcohol sucks!(!!!)NEVER >AGAIN, let me tell you. YUK.Aaargh!!! Plus this 1 and 1/2- 2 days of >feeling like crap cost me $10.00!(The government controls the liquor >business here- can you tell?) > > I think NA IS right in the sense that it IS screwed up for nearly >everyone in society to drink alcohol and it's considered normal. (It's >also considered normal to go to church, but that's another story). > > I disagree with 's brother that alcohol is no more poisonous than >mashed potatoes. I think that alcohol is a poison like magic mushrooms. >Even after just one drink, my body was having trouble with coordination >and there was a negative after effect that I did not like( feeling >fuzzy in the head). I'll stick with potatoes they're much friendlier. > > NOw kids- don't try this at home! Remember-puking and hangovers >SUCK!!! > kim >_____________________________________________________________ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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