Guest guest Posted April 13, 2010 Report Share Posted April 13, 2010 I just completed my B.S. in Dietetics in January and found out I was just accepted into an internship at my alma mater for the upcoming term. This is a second career for me (I have a degree in journalism and returned back to school after 15 years when I lost my job to outsourcing in the food industry. Your comment " it seems to me that these days there are not so many dietetic students to accept to the internship programs so that internship programs are cutting corners " is simply untrue. There is a huge problem that many qualified dietetic students are not getting accepted into programs - I saw it first hand this April 5th! The current statistic that I read was that 4,169 students applied for dietetic internship positions this spring and 2,076 received a match. So evidently there is a weeding out process, however there are many very intelligent and qualified students that are not getting the opportunity to intern. Of course as in any academic situation, there are people slipping by that shouldn't be but that is not the instance in every case. From my current recent academic experience I can tell you that many of the classes are very rushed (trying to fit tons of information into a short period of time). One example was my Medical Nutrition Therapy course which was only one semester long - would have been better served as a two semester course so more sections could be covered and sections would not be rushed through. My two cents.... > > > A colleague of mine told me of a co-worker who said that there are 160 calories in a glass of WATER!!!! (yes, you might want to read it again! this is not an intern!!!) > It seems to me that these days there are not so many dietetic students to accept to the internship so that internship programs are " cutting corners " .... are we talking about $$$$ again? > > > Merav Levi, RD, MS, CDNhttp://www.linkedin.com/in/meravlevi > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 13, 2010 Report Share Posted April 13, 2010 You should give your university program director feedback about what is needed to help future students succeed. That is something my advisor did - during my internship she asked me what courses best prepared me, and what might have been missing.  Holly ---------- Holly Lee Brewer, MS RD CDE Pediatric Dietitian, Diabetes Educator Medical Nutrition Therapist, Las Vegas, NV Maj Holly Brewer, USAFR BSC http://hollyinbalad.blogspot.com Malcom Grow Medical Center, s AFB, MD (Oct-Dec 2009) Joint Base Balad, Iraq (Jan-Jul 2009) Subject: Re: RD Internship criteria To: rd-usa Date: Tuesday, April 13, 2010, 6:01 AM  I just completed my B.S. in Dietetics in January and found out I was just accepted into an internship at my alma mater for the upcoming term. This is a second career for me (I have a degree in journalism and returned back to school after 15 years when I lost my job to outsourcing in the food industry. Your comment " it seems to me that these days there are not so many dietetic students to accept to the internship programs so that internship programs are cutting corners " is simply untrue. There is a huge problem that many qualified dietetic students are not getting accepted into programs - I saw it first hand this April 5th! The current statistic that I read was that 4,169 students applied for dietetic internship positions this spring and 2,076 received a match. So evidently there is a weeding out process, however there are many very intelligent and qualified students that are not getting the opportunity to intern. Of course as in any academic situation, there are people slipping by that shouldn't be but that is not the instance in every case. From my current recent academic experience I can tell you that many of the classes are very rushed (trying to fit tons of information into a short period of time). One example was my Medical Nutrition Therapy course which was only one semester long - would have been better served as a two semester course so more sections could be covered and sections would not be rushed through. My two cents.... > > > A colleague of mine told me of a co-worker who said that there are 160 calories in a glass of WATER!!!! (yes, you might want to read it again! this is not an intern!!!) > It seems to me that these days there are not so many dietetic students to accept to the internship so that internship programs are " cutting corners " .... are we talking about $$$$ again? > > > Merav Levi, RD, MS, CDNhttp://www. linkedin. com/in/meravlevi > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 13, 2010 Report Share Posted April 13, 2010 The problem here is that as a profession, when asked if there was a need to expand the time needed to prepare for entry level practice, we said (and very loudly), no. Keep it at the BS level. So as healthcare knowledge expands, educators remain constrained in a traditional four- year degree program. So the question is, what needs to be cut in order to add something. I'm not saying that the suggestion isn't a valid one. I happen to agree; there's a need for more time to fit everything in that folks need to be safe to practice. Sometimes I think we forget the bottom line. The end result to some seems to be achieving the RD credential without much thought to what that means. We go through all this so that the public, our patients and clients, can have assurance that we are qualified to practice. That's why (as a former clinical program instructor) internship directors rely on highly qualified preceptors to stay in touch, know what requirements are, and to be open and honest in evaluating students and interns. Pam Charney, PhD, RD Affiliate Associate Professor Pharmacy MS Student Clinical Informatics and Patient Centered Technology School of Nursing University of Washington Seattle, WA pcharney@... http://www.linkedin.com/in/pamcharney > You should give your university program director feedback about what > is needed to help future students succeed. That is something my > advisor did - during my internship she asked me what courses best > prepared me, and what might have been missing. > > Holly > > ---------- > Holly Lee Brewer, MS RD CDE > Pediatric Dietitian, Diabetes Educator > Medical Nutrition Therapist, Las Vegas, NV > > Maj Holly Brewer, USAFR BSC > http://hollyinbalad.blogspot.com > Malcom Grow Medical Center, s AFB, MD (Oct-Dec 2009) > Joint Base Balad, Iraq (Jan-Jul 2009) > > > > > Subject: Re: RD Internship criteria > To: rd-usa > Date: Tuesday, April 13, 2010, 6:01 AM > > > > I just completed my B.S. in Dietetics in January and found out I was > just accepted into an internship at my alma mater for the upcoming > term. This is a second career for me (I have a degree in journalism > and returned back to school after 15 years when I lost my job to > outsourcing in the food industry. > > Your comment " it seems to me that these days there are not so many > dietetic students to accept to the internship programs so that > internship programs are cutting corners " is simply untrue. > > There is a huge problem that many qualified dietetic students are > not getting accepted into programs - I saw it first hand this April > 5th! > > The current statistic that I read was that 4,169 students applied > for dietetic internship positions this spring and 2,076 received a > match. So evidently there is a weeding out process, however there > are many very intelligent and qualified students that are not > getting the opportunity to intern. Of course as in any academic > situation, there are people slipping by that shouldn't be but that > is not the instance in every case. > > From my current recent academic experience I can tell you that many > of the classes are very rushed (trying to fit tons of information > into a short period of time). One example was my Medical Nutrition > Therapy course which was only one semester long - would have been > better served as a two semester course so more sections could be > covered and sections would not be rushed through. > > My two cents.... > > > > > > > > A colleague of mine told me of a co-worker who said that there are > 160 calories in a glass of WATER!!!! (yes, you might want to read it > again! this is not an intern!!!) > > It seems to me that these days there are not so many dietetic > students to accept to the internship so that internship programs are > " cutting corners " .... are we talking about $$$$ again? > > > > > > Merav Levi, RD, MS, CDNhttp://www. linkedin. com/in/meravlevi > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 13, 2010 Report Share Posted April 13, 2010 I take about 20 dietetic interns a year, and always have found a mixed bag in interest, ability, energy and skills. Dietetic interns, like the rest of us, are human, and prone to the same strengths and weaknesses as the rest of us. I complete the intern's evaluation, but if there is a problem identified ahead of time, I don't hesitate to contact the internship director and discuss it. Interestingly the last time I commented negatively about one intern I found out she had been the best student in class. Which shows you that book knowlege is not always applied in practical situations. Digna Re: RD Internship criteria To: rd-usa Date: Tuesday, April 13, 2010, 6:01 AM I just completed my B.S. in Dietetics in January and found out I was just accepted into an internship at my alma mater for the upcoming term. This is a second career for me (I have a degree in journalism and returned back to school after 15 years when I lost my job to outsourcing in the food industry. Your comment " it seems to me that these days there are not so many dietetic students to accept to the internship programs so that internship programs are cutting corners " is simply untrue. There is a huge problem that many qualified dietetic students are not getting accepted into programs - I saw it first hand this April 5th! The current statistic that I read was that 4,169 students applied for dietetic internship positions this spring and 2,076 received a match. So evidently there is a weeding out process, however there are many very intelligent and qualified students that are not getting the opportunity to intern. Of course as in any academic situation, there are people slipping by that shouldn't be but that is not the instance in every case. From my current recent academic experience I can tell you that many of the classes are very rushed (trying to fit tons of information into a short period of time). One example was my Medical Nutrition Therapy course which was only one semester long - would have been better served as a two semester course so more sections could be covered and sections would not be rushed through. My two cents.... > > > A colleague of mine told me of a co-worker who said that there are 160 calories in a glass of WATER!!!! (yes, you might want to read it again! this is not an intern!!!) > It seems to me that these days there are not so many dietetic students to accept to the internship so that internship programs are " cutting corners " .... are we talking about $$$$ again? > > > Merav Levi, RD, MS, CDNhttp://www. linkedin. com/in/meravlevi > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 13, 2010 Report Share Posted April 13, 2010 Pam, Is it time to look at dedicated dietetics programs that eliminate other bachelor degree requirements so that it can still be obtained in the 4 years, but not have a lot of extraneous materials and required classes for graduation? True that type of program would be lacking in some of the subjects that make a person well rounded and more interesting to talk to, but it may then fit the required classes into the limited time there is. I still cannot understand how to become RD w/o the science and background of appropriate related classes. Digna Re: RD Internship criteria >> To: rd-usa >> Date: Tuesday, April 13, 2010, 6:01 AM >> >> >> >> I just completed my B.S. in Dietetics in January and found out I was >> just accepted into an internship at my alma mater for the upcoming >> term. This is a second career for me (I have a degree in journalism >> and returned back to school after 15 years when I lost my job to >> outsourcing in the food industry. >> >> Your comment " it seems to me that these days there are not so many >> dietetic students to accept to the internship programs so that >> internship programs are cutting corners " is simply untrue. >> >> There is a huge problem that many qualified dietetic students are >> not getting accepted into programs - I saw it first hand this April >> 5th! >> >> The current statistic that I read was that 4,169 students applied >> for dietetic internship positions this spring and 2,076 received a >> match. So evidently there is a weeding out process, however there >> are many very intelligent and qualified students that are not >> getting the opportunity to intern. Of course as in any academic >> situation, there are people slipping by that shouldn't be but that >> is not the instance in every case. >> >> From my current recent academic experience I can tell you that many >> of the classes are very rushed (trying to fit tons of information >> into a short period of time). One example was my Medical Nutrition >> Therapy course which was only one semester long - would have been >> better served as a two semester course so more sections could be >> covered and sections would not be rushed through. >> >> My two cents.... >> >> >> > >> > >> > A colleague of mine told me of a co-worker who said that there are >> 160 calories in a glass of WATER!!!! (yes, you might want to read it >> again! this is not an intern!!!) >> > It seems to me that these days there are not so many dietetic >> students to accept to the internship so that internship programs are >> " cutting corners " .... are we talking about $$$$ again? >> > >> > >> > Merav Levi, RD, MS, CDNhttp://www. linkedin. com/in/meravlevi >> > >> > >> >> > >> > >> > >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 13, 2010 Report Share Posted April 13, 2010 " Currently all DIs must provide at least 900 hours of supervised practice and will need to provide a minimum of 1200 hours of supervised practice by the time of their next accreditation review. " http://www.eatright.org/students/education/di.aspx Renata Mangrum, MPH, RD. http://nurturingnotes.blogspot.com http://infantfeedinghistory.blogspot.com http://www.linkedin.com/in/renatamangrum On Tue, Apr 13, 2010 at 10:38 AM, Digna Cassens <dignacassens@... > wrote: > Pam, > > Is it time to look at dedicated dietetics programs that eliminate other > bachelor degree requirements so that it can still be obtained in the 4 > years, but not have a lot of extraneous materials and required classes for > graduation? True that type of program would be lacking in some of the > subjects that make a person well rounded and more interesting to talk to, > but it may then fit the required classes into the limited time there is. > > I still cannot understand how to become RD w/o the science and background > of > appropriate related classes. > > Digna > > Re: RD Internship criteria > >> To: rd-usa > >> Date: Tuesday, April 13, 2010, 6:01 AM > >> > >> > >> > >> I just completed my B.S. in Dietetics in January and found out I was > >> just accepted into an internship at my alma mater for the upcoming > >> term. This is a second career for me (I have a degree in journalism > >> and returned back to school after 15 years when I lost my job to > >> outsourcing in the food industry. > >> > >> Your comment " it seems to me that these days there are not so many > >> dietetic students to accept to the internship programs so that > >> internship programs are cutting corners " is simply untrue. > >> > >> There is a huge problem that many qualified dietetic students are > >> not getting accepted into programs - I saw it first hand this April > >> 5th! > >> > >> The current statistic that I read was that 4,169 students applied > >> for dietetic internship positions this spring and 2,076 received a > >> match. So evidently there is a weeding out process, however there > >> are many very intelligent and qualified students that are not > >> getting the opportunity to intern. Of course as in any academic > >> situation, there are people slipping by that shouldn't be but that > >> is not the instance in every case. > >> > >> From my current recent academic experience I can tell you that many > >> of the classes are very rushed (trying to fit tons of information > >> into a short period of time). One example was my Medical Nutrition > >> Therapy course which was only one semester long - would have been > >> better served as a two semester course so more sections could be > >> covered and sections would not be rushed through. > >> > >> My two cents.... > >> > >> > >> > > >> > > >> > A colleague of mine told me of a co-worker who said that there are > >> 160 calories in a glass of WATER!!!! (yes, you might want to read it > >> again! this is not an intern!!!) > >> > It seems to me that these days there are not so many dietetic > >> students to accept to the internship so that internship programs are > >> " cutting corners " .... are we talking about $$$$ again? > >> > > >> > > >> > Merav Levi, RD, MS, CDNhttp://www. linkedin. com/in/meravlevi > >> > > >> > > >> > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 13, 2010 Report Share Posted April 13, 2010 Has anyone considered how stressful the internship is? Maybe that is all that is wrong with yout intern. She is too stressed out from the internship and just needs a little reminder to be able to relax and apply the knowledge she has. It is extremely difficult to concentrate when you are under a lot of stress. If they have never been in the hospital setting that just adds to the stress. Whether you know it or not, you add to it too if you are judgemental. Your student will pick up on it. Let them watch you for a week or so and you will be surprised how fast they will pick up on things as they get accomodated to the new environment. I was given a cheat sheet to use the first few weeks of my internship. If they got into an internship the knowledge base is there. They are more then likely too stressed to be able to use it. I also have a friend who had a BA in biology who became a wonderful RD. She was required to take some a couple extra classes before she was admitted to the internship program. Sincerely, Theresa Cornelius, MS, Rd, LDN, CLT > > > > > > Hi all - > > I have a concern/question:What are the requirements to get into a dietetic internship?Is there a need to have a certain # of credits in nutrition?Is there a need to actually know basic textbook nutrition information so that the internship will teach how to implement the textbook into practice?Or.... should we teach basic nutrition during the clinical rotation? > > > > Merav Levi, RD, MS, CDNhttp://www.linkedin.com/in/meravlevi > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 13, 2010 Report Share Posted April 13, 2010 We had a similar problems going on with our students, didn't know how to calculate BMI, IBW etc. Talked with the director of the internship who then in the future made sure they knew the basics before sending them onward. Nom more problems since. Talk to your director about your concerns, they can help. Re: Re: RD Internship criteria I take about 20 dietetic interns a year, and always have found a mixed bag in interest, ability, energy and skills. Dietetic interns, like the rest of us, are human, and prone to the same strengths and weaknesses as the rest of us. I complete the intern's evaluation, but if there is a problem identified ahead of time, I don't hesitate to contact the internship director and discuss it. Interestingly the last time I commented negatively about one intern I found out she had been the best student in class. Which shows you that book knowlege is not always applied in practical situations. Digna Re: RD Internship criteria To: rd-usa Date: Tuesday, April 13, 2010, 6:01 AM I just completed my B.S. in Dietetics in January and found out I was just accepted into an internship at my alma mater for the upcoming term. This is a second career for me (I have a degree in journalism and returned back to school after 15 years when I lost my job to outsourcing in the food industry. Your comment " it seems to me that these days there are not so many dietetic students to accept to the internship programs so that internship programs are cutting corners " is simply untrue. There is a huge problem that many qualified dietetic students are not getting accepted into programs - I saw it first hand this April 5th! The current statistic that I read was that 4,169 students applied for dietetic internship positions this spring and 2,076 received a match. So evidently there is a weeding out process, however there are many very intelligent and qualified students that are not getting the opportunity to intern. Of course as in any academic situation, there are people slipping by that shouldn't be but that is not the instance in every case. From my current recent academic experience I can tell you that many of the classes are very rushed (trying to fit tons of information into a short period of time). One example was my Medical Nutrition Therapy course which was only one semester long - would have been better served as a two semester course so more sections could be covered and sections would not be rushed through. My two cents.... > > > A colleague of mine told me of a co-worker who said that there are 160 calories in a glass of WATER!!!! (yes, you might want to read it again! this is not an intern!!!) > It seems to me that these days there are not so many dietetic students to accept to the internship so that internship programs are " cutting corners " .... are we talking about $$$$ again? > > > Merav Levi, RD, MS, CDNhttp://www. linkedin. com/in/meravlevi > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 13, 2010 Report Share Posted April 13, 2010 yes there are many ways but not all apply and not all should, each case should be examined separately. in your daughter case - you said it yourself - she had to take the science req and then completed her MS. Merav Levi, RD, MS, CDN http://www.linkedin.com/in/meravlevi To: rd-usa From: mffrd10019@... Date: Tue, 13 Apr 2010 05:59:49 -0700 Subject: Re: RD Internship criteria My daughters college major was studio art with a jewelry minor. She graduated with a BA. She worked in the fashion jewelry business for 3 or 4 years and then went to culinary school and received an AA degree. After working as a caterer and then a private chef for 7 years, she decided the challenge was not there and went on to get a masters degree in nutrition. She had had no science courses. She did the undergraduate requirements in the sciences and then completed her masters degree in nutrition. Her internship was part of her masters program. She is an RD. She now teaches nutrition and food science to culinary students. She also writes (see the March JADA as she is the lead author of the Position Paper). There are many ways to get where you want to be. Madalyn ________________________________ To: rd-usa Sent: Tue, April 13, 2010 12:55:41 AM Subject: Re: RD Internship criteria Merav, I saw that others have commented on the basic requirements a student must meet before applying to an internship. I believe that people decide at different times in their academic experience that they want to become RDs. While the norm is an undergrad degree in dietetics or food and nutrition some may come from different backgrounds and meet the course requirements separately. ADA has endeavored to meet people where they are instead of demanding that everyone have the same academic experience starting with freshman year. I sit on a licensure board of several professions including nutrition. It's rare that I am asked to review an application because they are routine. A recent one was from someone with a BA and earlier major in the home economics area who had taken all the required extra courses, completed an internship, passed the CDR exam. We checked with ADA that the applicant met all the requirements without a dietetics major. My own BA and a masters are in biological sciences. Then I got an MS in Nutrition and Food Science and went to an internship. Pat Bollinger, MS RD Merav Levi wrote: > > > > Hi all - > I have a concern/question: What are the requirements to get into a > dietetic internship?Is there a need to have a certain # of credits in > nutrition?Is there a need to actually know basic textbook nutrition > information so that the internship will teach how to implement the > textbook into practice?Or. ... should we teach basic nutrition during > the clinical rotation? > > Merav Levi, RD, MS, CDNhttp://www. linkedin. com/in/meravlevi > <CDNhttp://www. linkedin. com/in/meravlevi> > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 13, 2010 Report Share Posted April 13, 2010 Apparently in the ONE (!!!) case I am talking about - they didn't weed out the right one. Biology major, one MNT class and zero knowldge in clinical nutrition. I am sorry - in my book - this student should have not gotten into any intership before completion of all science req, MNT, clinical nutrition 101 and many more. I am talking about one case. I had good interns before this one. Merav Levi, RD, MS, CDN http://www.linkedin.com/in/meravlevi To: rd-usa From: duck_michelle@... Date: Tue, 13 Apr 2010 13:01:02 +0000 Subject: Re: RD Internship criteria I just completed my B.S. in Dietetics in January and found out I was just accepted into an internship at my alma mater for the upcoming term. This is a second career for me (I have a degree in journalism and returned back to school after 15 years when I lost my job to outsourcing in the food industry. Your comment " it seems to me that these days there are not so many dietetic students to accept to the internship programs so that internship programs are cutting corners " is simply untrue. There is a huge problem that many qualified dietetic students are not getting accepted into programs - I saw it first hand this April 5th! The current statistic that I read was that 4,169 students applied for dietetic internship positions this spring and 2,076 received a match. So evidently there is a weeding out process, however there are many very intelligent and qualified students that are not getting the opportunity to intern. Of course as in any academic situation, there are people slipping by that shouldn't be but that is not the instance in every case. From my current recent academic experience I can tell you that many of the classes are very rushed (trying to fit tons of information into a short period of time). One example was my Medical Nutrition Therapy course which was only one semester long - would have been better served as a two semester course so more sections could be covered and sections would not be rushed through. My two cents.... > > > A colleague of mine told me of a co-worker who said that there are 160 calories in a glass of WATER!!!! (yes, you might want to read it again! this is not an intern!!!) > It seems to me that these days there are not so many dietetic students to accept to the internship so that internship programs are " cutting corners " .... are we talking about $$$$ again? > > > Merav Levi, RD, MS, CDNhttp://www.linkedin.com/in/meravlevi > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 13, 2010 Report Share Posted April 13, 2010 I wish that was the problem!She is at the end of the rotation and I took into consideration that maybe on the unit she was stressed, so I gave her a separated assignment, off the floor, to see what she knows, from the textbook. I explained to her that this is all I expect of her at this time. But nada. I even told her she could use the textbook in the office but she insisted on answering it in front of me w/o the textbook. I was hoping she was doing so to prove me wrong, but no. I just got re-assurance that she doesn't know MNT for basic and common Dx like CHF. She told me her background is BS in biology and ONE class in MNT. That's why I am questioning how did she get in b/c according to CADE (as I was referred to by Pat) and from my own experience and previous studies/internship - I knew something is not OK " with this picture " .So, to answer to your question - it is not a stress issue. It is the end of her rotation. If it was the beginning I would be more lenient. Merav Levi, RD, MS, CDNhttp://www.linkedin.com/in/meravlevi To: rd-usa From: theonlineceliacdietitian@... Date: Tue, 13 Apr 2010 14:52:40 +0000 Subject: Re: RD Internship criteria Has anyone considered how stressful the internship is? Maybe that is all that is wrong with yout intern. She is too stressed out from the internship and just needs a little reminder to be able to relax and apply the knowledge she has. It is extremely difficult to concentrate when you are under a lot of stress. If they have never been in the hospital setting that just adds to the stress. Whether you know it or not, you add to it too if you are judgemental. Your student will pick up on it. Let them watch you for a week or so and you will be surprised how fast they will pick up on things as they get accomodated to the new environment. I was given a cheat sheet to use the first few weeks of my internship. If they got into an internship the knowledge base is there. They are more then likely too stressed to be able to use it. I also have a friend who had a BA in biology who became a wonderful RD. She was required to take some a couple extra classes before she was admitted to the internship program. Sincerely, Theresa Cornelius, MS, Rd, LDN, CLT > > > > > > Hi all - > > I have a concern/question:What are the requirements to get into a dietetic internship?Is there a need to have a certain # of credits in nutrition?Is there a need to actually know basic textbook nutrition information so that the internship will teach how to implement the textbook into practice?Or.... should we teach basic nutrition during the clinical rotation? > > > > Merav Levi, RD, MS, CDNhttp://www.linkedin.com/in/meravlevi > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 14, 2010 Report Share Posted April 14, 2010 Here I go again dating myself. I started under plan 4 and it did require nutrition classes. In fact basic animal nutrition was one of them. I just can't believe that a program who accept anyone with out some basic nutrition at the very least. An internship is not the place to learn nutrition or labs. Jackie Chase RD Dillingham Ak > > Thanks Pat.I looked at it.It looks very vague.It seems like one should have a BA/BS in SOMETHING. It does not specify nutrition!I am shocked. How could someone who , lets say has a BS in biology or physics, could practice " evidence based " science and apply it in a clinical nutrition arena?How could someone like that could be a candidate to the dietetic internship and be accepted? How could someone with that background could finish an internship and start clinical practice? and please don't say that this is why we have the RD exam. > " These requirements may be met through separate courses, combined into one course, or as part of several courses as determined by > the college or university sponsoring a CADE-accredited program. " from the COMMISSION ON ACCREDITATION FOR DIETETICS EDUCATION > 2008 FOUNDATION KNOWLEDGE AND COMPETENCIES ˆ DIETITIAN EDUCATIONhttp://www.eatright.org/uploadedFiles/CADE/CADE-General-Content/3-08_RD\'>http://www.eatright.org/uploadedFiles/CADE/CADE-General-Content/3-08_RD\ -FKC_Only.pdf > > I am hoping I am misunderstanding something. but if not - this is very sad for our reputation and explains to me different knowledge level when coming to clinical rotation. > he reason I got into this - I have an intern who doesn't know much (to say the least) how different diagnosis apply to her when coming to recommend nutrition intervention. And that's even before looking into labs and what do they mean for us? I don't think I should teach, during the internship, nutrition 101. I thought, and please feel free to correct me if I am wrong, that during an internship, one should learn how to apply the textbook/new evidence-based articles into practice., so that at the end of the rotation they are ready for an entry level position.... > Merav Levi, RD, MS, CDNhttp://www.linkedin.com/in/meravlevi'>http://www.linkedin.com/in/meravlevi > > > > To: rd-usa > From: pbolling@... > Date: Mon, 12 Apr 2010 18:09:33 -0600 > Subject: Re: RD Internship criteria > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Merav, > > > > This is a link from the student center on the ADA website that will > > probably answer your questions re academic requirements that must be met > > before applying to a dietetic internship. http://www.eatright.org/cade/ > > > > Pat > > > > Merav Levi wrote: > >> > >> > >> > >> Hi all - > >> I have a concern/question: What are the requirements to get into a > >> dietetic internship?Is there a need to have a certain # of credits in > >> nutrition?Is there a need to actually know basic textbook nutrition > >> information so that the internship will teach how to implement the > >> textbook into practice?Or. ... should we teach basic nutrition during > >> the clinical rotation? > >> > >> Merav Levi, RD, MS, CDNhttp://www. linkedin. com/in/meravlevi > >> <CDNhttp://www.linkedin.com/in/meravlevi'>http://www.linkedin.com/in/meravlevi> > >> > >> > >> > >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 14, 2010 Report Share Posted April 14, 2010 Here I go again dating myself. I started under plan 4 and it did require nutrition classes. In fact basic animal nutrition was one of them. I just can't believe that a program who accept anyone with out some basic nutrition at the very least. An internship is not the place to learn nutrition or labs. Jackie Chase RD Dillingham Ak > > Thanks Pat.I looked at it.It looks very vague.It seems like one should have a BA/BS in SOMETHING. It does not specify nutrition!I am shocked. How could someone who , lets say has a BS in biology or physics, could practice " evidence based " science and apply it in a clinical nutrition arena?How could someone like that could be a candidate to the dietetic internship and be accepted? How could someone with that background could finish an internship and start clinical practice? and please don't say that this is why we have the RD exam. > " These requirements may be met through separate courses, combined into one course, or as part of several courses as determined by > the college or university sponsoring a CADE-accredited program. " from the COMMISSION ON ACCREDITATION FOR DIETETICS EDUCATION > 2008 FOUNDATION KNOWLEDGE AND COMPETENCIES ˆ DIETITIAN EDUCATIONhttp://www.eatright.org/uploadedFiles/CADE/CADE-General-Content/3-08_RD\'>http://www.eatright.org/uploadedFiles/CADE/CADE-General-Content/3-08_RD\ -FKC_Only.pdf > > I am hoping I am misunderstanding something. but if not - this is very sad for our reputation and explains to me different knowledge level when coming to clinical rotation. > he reason I got into this - I have an intern who doesn't know much (to say the least) how different diagnosis apply to her when coming to recommend nutrition intervention. And that's even before looking into labs and what do they mean for us? I don't think I should teach, during the internship, nutrition 101. I thought, and please feel free to correct me if I am wrong, that during an internship, one should learn how to apply the textbook/new evidence-based articles into practice., so that at the end of the rotation they are ready for an entry level position.... > Merav Levi, RD, MS, CDNhttp://www.linkedin.com/in/meravlevi'>http://www.linkedin.com/in/meravlevi > > > > To: rd-usa > From: pbolling@... > Date: Mon, 12 Apr 2010 18:09:33 -0600 > Subject: Re: RD Internship criteria > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Merav, > > > > This is a link from the student center on the ADA website that will > > probably answer your questions re academic requirements that must be met > > before applying to a dietetic internship. http://www.eatright.org/cade/ > > > > Pat > > > > Merav Levi wrote: > >> > >> > >> > >> Hi all - > >> I have a concern/question: What are the requirements to get into a > >> dietetic internship?Is there a need to have a certain # of credits in > >> nutrition?Is there a need to actually know basic textbook nutrition > >> information so that the internship will teach how to implement the > >> textbook into practice?Or. ... should we teach basic nutrition during > >> the clinical rotation? > >> > >> Merav Levi, RD, MS, CDNhttp://www. linkedin. com/in/meravlevi > >> <CDNhttp://www.linkedin.com/in/meravlevi'>http://www.linkedin.com/in/meravlevi> > >> > >> > >> > >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 14, 2010 Report Share Posted April 14, 2010 Here I go again dating myself. I started under plan 4 and it did require nutrition classes. In fact basic animal nutrition was one of them. I just can't believe that a program who accept anyone with out some basic nutrition at the very least. An internship is not the place to learn nutrition or labs. Jackie Chase RD Dillingham Ak > > Thanks Pat.I looked at it.It looks very vague.It seems like one should have a BA/BS in SOMETHING. It does not specify nutrition!I am shocked. How could someone who , lets say has a BS in biology or physics, could practice " evidence based " science and apply it in a clinical nutrition arena?How could someone like that could be a candidate to the dietetic internship and be accepted? How could someone with that background could finish an internship and start clinical practice? and please don't say that this is why we have the RD exam. > " These requirements may be met through separate courses, combined into one course, or as part of several courses as determined by > the college or university sponsoring a CADE-accredited program. " from the COMMISSION ON ACCREDITATION FOR DIETETICS EDUCATION > 2008 FOUNDATION KNOWLEDGE AND COMPETENCIES ˆ DIETITIAN EDUCATIONhttp://www.eatright.org/uploadedFiles/CADE/CADE-General-Content/3-08_RD\'>http://www.eatright.org/uploadedFiles/CADE/CADE-General-Content/3-08_RD\ -FKC_Only.pdf > > I am hoping I am misunderstanding something. but if not - this is very sad for our reputation and explains to me different knowledge level when coming to clinical rotation. > he reason I got into this - I have an intern who doesn't know much (to say the least) how different diagnosis apply to her when coming to recommend nutrition intervention. And that's even before looking into labs and what do they mean for us? I don't think I should teach, during the internship, nutrition 101. I thought, and please feel free to correct me if I am wrong, that during an internship, one should learn how to apply the textbook/new evidence-based articles into practice., so that at the end of the rotation they are ready for an entry level position.... > Merav Levi, RD, MS, CDNhttp://www.linkedin.com/in/meravlevi'>http://www.linkedin.com/in/meravlevi > > > > To: rd-usa > From: pbolling@... > Date: Mon, 12 Apr 2010 18:09:33 -0600 > Subject: Re: RD Internship criteria > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Merav, > > > > This is a link from the student center on the ADA website that will > > probably answer your questions re academic requirements that must be met > > before applying to a dietetic internship. http://www.eatright.org/cade/ > > > > Pat > > > > Merav Levi wrote: > >> > >> > >> > >> Hi all - > >> I have a concern/question: What are the requirements to get into a > >> dietetic internship?Is there a need to have a certain # of credits in > >> nutrition?Is there a need to actually know basic textbook nutrition > >> information so that the internship will teach how to implement the > >> textbook into practice?Or. ... should we teach basic nutrition during > >> the clinical rotation? > >> > >> Merav Levi, RD, MS, CDNhttp://www. linkedin. com/in/meravlevi > >> <CDNhttp://www.linkedin.com/in/meravlevi'>http://www.linkedin.com/in/meravlevi> > >> > >> > >> > >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 15, 2010 Report Share Posted April 15, 2010 I agree. Yesterday I also discovered that this intern does not know how to convert Oz to Ml..... More examples??? Again - this is the first time I see an intern like that. Merav Levi, RD, MS, CDN http://www.linkedin.com/in/meravlevi > To: rd-usa > From: jackiechase66@... > Date: Wed, 14 Apr 2010 06:25:03 -0800 > Subject: Re: RD Internship criteria > > Here I go again dating myself. I started under plan 4 and it did require nutrition classes. In fact basic animal nutrition was one of them. I just can't believe that a program who accept anyone with out some basic nutrition at the very least. An internship is not the place to learn nutrition or labs. > > Jackie Chase RD > Dillingham Ak > > > > > > > Thanks Pat.I looked at it.It looks very vague.It seems like one should have a BA/BS in SOMETHING. It does not specify nutrition!I am shocked. How could someone who , lets say has a BS in biology or physics, could practice " evidence based " science and apply it in a clinical nutrition arena?How could someone like that could be a candidate to the dietetic internship and be accepted? How could someone with that background could finish an internship and start clinical practice? and please don't say that this is why we have the RD exam. > > " These requirements may be met through separate courses, combined into one course, or as part of several courses as determined by > > the college or university sponsoring a CADE-accredited program. " from the COMMISSION ON ACCREDITATION FOR DIETETICS EDUCATION > > 2008 FOUNDATION KNOWLEDGE AND COMPETENCIES ˆ DIETITIAN EDUCATIONhttp://www.eatright.org/uploadedFiles/CADE/CADE-General-Content/3-08_RD\'>http://www.eatright.org/uploadedFiles/CADE/CADE-General-Content/3-08_RD\ -FKC_Only.pdf > > > > I am hoping I am misunderstanding something. but if not - this is very sad for our reputation and explains to me different knowledge level when coming to clinical rotation. > > he reason I got into this - I have an intern who doesn't know much (to say the least) how different diagnosis apply to her when coming to recommend nutrition intervention. And that's even before looking into labs and what do they mean for us? I don't think I should teach, during the internship, nutrition 101. I thought, and please feel free to correct me if I am wrong, that during an internship, one should learn how to apply the textbook/new evidence-based articles into practice., so that at the end of the rotation they are ready for an entry level position.... > > Merav Levi, RD, MS, CDNhttp://www.linkedin.com/in/meravlevi'>http://www.linkedin.com/in/meravlevi > > > > > > > > To: rd-usa > > From: pbolling@... > > Date: Mon, 12 Apr 2010 18:09:33 -0600 > > Subject: Re: RD Internship criteria > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Merav, > > > > > > > > This is a link from the student center on the ADA website that will > > > > probably answer your questions re academic requirements that must be met > > > > before applying to a dietetic internship. http://www.eatright.org/cade/ > > > > > > > > Pat > > > > > > > > Merav Levi wrote: > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> Hi all - > > > >> I have a concern/question: What are the requirements to get into a > > > >> dietetic internship?Is there a need to have a certain # of credits in > > > >> nutrition?Is there a need to actually know basic textbook nutrition > > > >> information so that the internship will teach how to implement the > > > >> textbook into practice?Or. ... should we teach basic nutrition during > > > >> the clinical rotation? > > > >> > > > >> Merav Levi, RD, MS, CDNhttp://www. linkedin. com/in/meravlevi > > > >> <CDNhttp://www.linkedin.com/in/meravlevi'>http://www.linkedin.com/in/meravlevi> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 15, 2010 Report Share Posted April 15, 2010 Merav, Conversion of metric to English and back is something we should all learn in school (or at least have access to a handy cheat sheet). Sounds like her university degree was not appropriate for acceptance to the internship. I hope you have discussed this issue with the internship director. Perhaps other preceptors have also had difficulties. You need to speak up - don't be afraid to fail her if she is not able to do the appropriate level of MNT. Holly ---------- Holly Lee Brewer, MS RD CDE Pediatric Dietitian, Diabetes Educator Medical Nutrition Therapist, Las Vegas, NV Maj Holly Brewer, USAFR BSC http://hollyinbalad.blogspot.com Malcom Grow Medical Center, s AFB, MD (Oct-Dec 2009) Joint Base Balad, Iraq (Jan-Jul 2009) > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> Hi all - > > > > > >> I have a concern/question: What are the > requirements to get into a > > > > > >> dietetic internship?Is there a need to have a > certain # of credits in > > > > > >> nutrition?Is there a need to actually know > basic textbook nutrition > > > > > >> information so that the internship will teach > how to implement the > > > > > >> textbook into practice?Or. ... should we > teach basic nutrition during > > > > > >> the clinical rotation? > > > > > >> > > > > > >> Merav Levi, RD, MS, CDNhttp://www. linkedin. com/in/meravlevi > > > > > >> <CDNhttp://www.linkedin.com/in/meravlevi> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> [Non-text portions of this message have been > removed] > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 15, 2010 Report Share Posted April 15, 2010 I addressed it to my boss who I am not sure will discuss it with the internship director. I can't go over my boss.As far as your 1st paragraph - you nailed it.I am in a terrible, new position here. Merav Levi, RD, MS, CDNhttp://www.linkedin.com/in/meravlevi'>http://www.linkedin.com/in/meravlevi To: rd-usa From: hlbrewer@... Date: Thu, 15 Apr 2010 14:57:29 -0700 Subject: RE: RD Internship criteria Merav, Conversion of metric to English and back is something we should all learn in school (or at least have access to a handy cheat sheet). Sounds like her university degree was not appropriate for acceptance to the internship. I hope you have discussed this issue with the internship director. Perhaps other preceptors have also had difficulties. You need to speak up - don't be afraid to fail her if she is not able to do the appropriate level of MNT. Holly ---------- Holly Lee Brewer, MS RD CDE Pediatric Dietitian, Diabetes Educator Medical Nutrition Therapist, Las Vegas, NV Maj Holly Brewer, USAFR BSC http://hollyinbalad.blogspot.com Malcom Grow Medical Center, s AFB, MD (Oct-Dec 2009) Joint Base Balad, Iraq (Jan-Jul 2009) > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> Hi all - > > > > > >> I have a concern/question: What are the > requirements to get into a > > > > > >> dietetic internship?Is there a need to have a > certain # of credits in > > > > > >> nutrition?Is there a need to actually know > basic textbook nutrition > > > > > >> information so that the internship will teach > how to implement the > > > > > >> textbook into practice?Or. ... should we > teach basic nutrition during > > > > > >> the clinical rotation? > > > > > >> > > > > > >> Merav Levi, RD, MS, CDNhttp://www. linkedin. com/in/meravlevi > > > > > >> <CDNhttp://www.linkedin.com/in/meravlevi'>http://www.linkedin.com/in/meravlevi> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> [Non-text portions of this message have been > removed] > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 15, 2010 Report Share Posted April 15, 2010 Merav, I agree. I don't mean to be cruel, but if she's not ready, she should fail. Passing her will only put incompetence forth into our field, and tarnish the reputation we work so hard to build, not to mention the effect on patient care. In my estimation, anyone beyond high school education should be resourceful enough to Google a conversion via computer/phone whether or not they were smart enough to write the factor down in the first place. I am sorry for you to be in this position. I'd encourage you NOT to teach her, because even if you have the time, she doesn't seem to have the proper foundation/understanding on which to build with what you have to offer her. > > > Merav, > Conversion of metric to English and back is something we should all learn > in school (or at least have access to a handy cheat sheet). Sounds like her > university degree was not appropriate for acceptance to the internship. > > I hope you have discussed this issue with the internship director. Perhaps > other preceptors have also had difficulties. You need to speak up - don't be > afraid to fail her if she is not able to do the appropriate level of MNT. > > Holly > > ---------- > Holly Lee Brewer, MS RD CDE > Pediatric Dietitian, Diabetes Educator > Medical Nutrition Therapist, Las Vegas, NV > > Maj Holly Brewer, USAFR BSC > http://hollyinbalad.blogspot.com > Malcom Grow Medical Center, s AFB, MD (Oct-Dec 2009) > Joint Base Balad, Iraq (Jan-Jul 2009) > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> Hi all - > > > > > > > >> I have a concern/question: What are the > > requirements to get into a > > > > > > > >> dietetic internship?Is there a need to have a > > certain # of credits in > > > > > > > >> nutrition?Is there a need to actually know > > basic textbook nutrition > > > > > > > >> information so that the internship will teach > > how to implement the > > > > > > > >> textbook into practice?Or. ... should we > > teach basic nutrition during > > > > > > > >> the clinical rotation? > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> Merav Levi, RD, MS, CDNhttp://www. linkedin. com/in/meravlevi > > > > > > > >> <CDNhttp://www.linkedin.com/in/meravlevi> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> [Non-text portions of this message have been > > removed] > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > > removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > > removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 15, 2010 Report Share Posted April 15, 2010 Yes, , You are absolutely right. That exactly what my problem is. As you said - not only out professional reputation in jeopardy but the care for pts.This is a very sad and inconvenient position for, to say the least. Merav Levi, RD, MS, CDNhttp://www.linkedin.com/in/meravlevi'>http://www.linkedin.com/in/meravlevi To: rd-usa From: cidonovan@... Date: Thu, 15 Apr 2010 18:31:47 -0400 Subject: Re: RD Internship criteria Merav, I agree. I don't mean to be cruel, but if she's not ready, she should fail. Passing her will only put incompetence forth into our field, and tarnish the reputation we work so hard to build, not to mention the effect on patient care. In my estimation, anyone beyond high school education should be resourceful enough to Google a conversion via computer/phone whether or not they were smart enough to write the factor down in the first place. I am sorry for you to be in this position. I'd encourage you NOT to teach her, because even if you have the time, she doesn't seem to have the proper foundation/understanding on which to build with what you have to offer her. > > > Merav, > Conversion of metric to English and back is something we should all learn > in school (or at least have access to a handy cheat sheet). Sounds like her > university degree was not appropriate for acceptance to the internship. > > I hope you have discussed this issue with the internship director. Perhaps > other preceptors have also had difficulties. You need to speak up - don't be > afraid to fail her if she is not able to do the appropriate level of MNT. > > Holly > > ---------- > Holly Lee Brewer, MS RD CDE > Pediatric Dietitian, Diabetes Educator > Medical Nutrition Therapist, Las Vegas, NV > > Maj Holly Brewer, USAFR BSC > http://hollyinbalad.blogspot.com > Malcom Grow Medical Center, s AFB, MD (Oct-Dec 2009) > Joint Base Balad, Iraq (Jan-Jul 2009) > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> Hi all - > > > > > > > >> I have a concern/question: What are the > > requirements to get into a > > > > > > > >> dietetic internship?Is there a need to have a > > certain # of credits in > > > > > > > >> nutrition?Is there a need to actually know > > basic textbook nutrition > > > > > > > >> information so that the internship will teach > > how to implement the > > > > > > > >> textbook into practice?Or. ... should we > > teach basic nutrition during > > > > > > > >> the clinical rotation? > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> Merav Levi, RD, MS, CDNhttp://www. linkedin. com/in/meravlevi > > > > > > > >> <CDNhttp://www.linkedin.com/in/meravlevi'>http://www.linkedin.com/in/meravlevi> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> [Non-text portions of this message have been > > removed] > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > > removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > > removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 15, 2010 Report Share Posted April 15, 2010 Yes, , You are absolutely right. That exactly what my problem is. As you said - not only out professional reputation in jeopardy but the care for pts.This is a very sad and inconvenient position for, to say the least. Merav Levi, RD, MS, CDNhttp://www.linkedin.com/in/meravlevi'>http://www.linkedin.com/in/meravlevi To: rd-usa From: cidonovan@... Date: Thu, 15 Apr 2010 18:31:47 -0400 Subject: Re: RD Internship criteria Merav, I agree. I don't mean to be cruel, but if she's not ready, she should fail. Passing her will only put incompetence forth into our field, and tarnish the reputation we work so hard to build, not to mention the effect on patient care. In my estimation, anyone beyond high school education should be resourceful enough to Google a conversion via computer/phone whether or not they were smart enough to write the factor down in the first place. I am sorry for you to be in this position. I'd encourage you NOT to teach her, because even if you have the time, she doesn't seem to have the proper foundation/understanding on which to build with what you have to offer her. > > > Merav, > Conversion of metric to English and back is something we should all learn > in school (or at least have access to a handy cheat sheet). Sounds like her > university degree was not appropriate for acceptance to the internship. > > I hope you have discussed this issue with the internship director. Perhaps > other preceptors have also had difficulties. You need to speak up - don't be > afraid to fail her if she is not able to do the appropriate level of MNT. > > Holly > > ---------- > Holly Lee Brewer, MS RD CDE > Pediatric Dietitian, Diabetes Educator > Medical Nutrition Therapist, Las Vegas, NV > > Maj Holly Brewer, USAFR BSC > http://hollyinbalad.blogspot.com > Malcom Grow Medical Center, s AFB, MD (Oct-Dec 2009) > Joint Base Balad, Iraq (Jan-Jul 2009) > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> Hi all - > > > > > > > >> I have a concern/question: What are the > > requirements to get into a > > > > > > > >> dietetic internship?Is there a need to have a > > certain # of credits in > > > > > > > >> nutrition?Is there a need to actually know > > basic textbook nutrition > > > > > > > >> information so that the internship will teach > > how to implement the > > > > > > > >> textbook into practice?Or. ... should we > > teach basic nutrition during > > > > > > > >> the clinical rotation? > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> Merav Levi, RD, MS, CDNhttp://www. linkedin. com/in/meravlevi > > > > > > > >> <CDNhttp://www.linkedin.com/in/meravlevi'>http://www.linkedin.com/in/meravlevi> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> [Non-text portions of this message have been > > removed] > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > > removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > > removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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