Re: RD Internship criteria

[Guest guest]

Merav,

This is a link from the student center on the ADA website that will

probably answer your questions re academic requirements that must be met

before applying to a dietetic internship. http://www.eatright.org/cade/

Pat

Merav Levi wrote:

>

>

>

> Hi all -

> I have a concern/question: What are the requirements to get into a

> dietetic internship?Is there a need to have a certain # of credits in

> nutrition?Is there a need to actually know basic textbook nutrition

> information so that the internship will teach how to implement the

> textbook into practice?Or. ... should we teach basic nutrition during

> the clinical rotation?

>

> Merav Levi, RD, MS, CDNhttp://www. linkedin. com/in/meravlevi

> <CDNhttp://www.linkedin.com/in/meravlevi>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Thanks Pat.I looked at it.It looks very vague.It seems like one should have a

BA/BS in SOMETHING. It does not specify nutrition!I am shocked. How could

someone who , lets say has a BS in biology or physics, could practice " evidence

based " science and apply it in a clinical nutrition arena?How could someone like

that could be a candidate to the dietetic internship and be accepted? How could

someone with that background could finish an internship and start clinical

practice? and please don't say that this is why we have the RD exam.

" These requirements may be met through separate courses, combined into one

course, or as part of several courses as determined by

the college or university sponsoring a CADE-accredited program. " from the

COMMISSION ON ACCREDITATION FOR DIETETICS EDUCATION

2008 FOUNDATION KNOWLEDGE AND COMPETENCIES – DIETITIAN

EDUCATIONhttp://www.eatright.org/uploadedFiles/CADE/CADE-General-Content/3-08_RD\'>http://www.eatright.org/uploadedFiles/CADE/CADE-General-Content/3-08_RD\

-FKC_Only.pdf

I am hoping I am misunderstanding something. but if not - this is very sad for

our reputation and explains to me different knowledge level when coming to

clinical rotation.

he reason I got into this - I have an intern who doesn't know much (to say the

least) how different diagnosis apply to her when coming to recommend nutrition

intervention. And that's even before looking into labs and what do they mean for

us? I don't think I should teach, during the internship, nutrition 101. I

thought, and please feel free to correct me if I am wrong, that during an

internship, one should learn how to apply the textbook/new evidence-based

articles into practice., so that at the end of the rotation they are ready for

an entry level position....

Merav Levi, RD, MS, CDNhttp://www.linkedin.com/in/meravlevi'>http://www.linkedin.com/in/meravlevi

To: rd-usa

From: pbolling@...

Date: Mon, 12 Apr 2010 18:09:33 -0600

Subject: Re: RD Internship criteria

Merav,

This is a link from the student center on the ADA website that will

probably answer your questions re academic requirements that must be met

before applying to a dietetic internship. http://www.eatright.org/cade/

Pat

Merav Levi wrote:

>

>

>

> Hi all -

> I have a concern/question: What are the requirements to get into a

> dietetic internship?Is there a need to have a certain # of credits in

> nutrition?Is there a need to actually know basic textbook nutrition

> information so that the internship will teach how to implement the

> textbook into practice?Or. ... should we teach basic nutrition during

> the clinical rotation?

>

> Merav Levi, RD, MS, CDNhttp://www. linkedin. com/in/meravlevi

> <CDNhttp://www.linkedin.com/in/meravlevi'>http://www.linkedin.com/in/meravlevi>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

I remember that my internship had specific course requirements that also matched

the university's program for Nutrition. The internship director and others

reviewed all applications that included transcripts, letters of recommendation,

and a personal letter of application. I've also sat on the selection board for

my same internship a few years after I earned my RD. So if you have a student

who is failing for lack of basic knowledge, the issue is your internships'

criteria for acceptance.

We did have to fail an intern who lacked math skills and couldn't keep up with

the basic clinical workload. She ended up going back to school in the nursing

career field.

Holly

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Holly Lee Brewer, MS RD CDE

Pediatric Dietitian, Diabetes Educator

Medical Nutrition Therapist, Las Vegas, NV

Maj Holly Brewer, USAFR BSC

http://hollyinbalad.blogspot.com

Malcom Grow Medical Center, s AFB, MD (Oct-Dec 2009)

Joint Base Balad, Iraq (Jan-Jul 2009)

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> > Hi all -

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> > I have a concern/question: What are the requirements

> to get into a

>

> > dietetic internship?Is there a need to have a certain

> # of credits in

>

> > nutrition?Is there a need to actually know basic

> textbook nutrition

>

> > information so that the internship will teach how to

> implement the

>

> > textbook into practice?Or. ... should we teach basic

> nutrition during

>

> > the clinical rotation?

>

> >

>

> > Merav Levi, RD, MS, CDNhttp://www. linkedin. com/in/meravlevi

>

> > <CDNhttp://www.linkedin.com/in/meravlevi>

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[Guest guest]

Thanks.

This is what I thought, though its not " my internship criteria " but we accept

interns for their clinical rotation. we don't run the program/internship or have

any control of acceptance in any way or form.

Merav Levi, RD, MS, CDNhttp://www.linkedin.com/in/meravlevi'>http://www.linkedin.com/in/meravlevi

To: rd-usa

From: hlbrewer@...

Date: Mon, 12 Apr 2010 18:23:56 -0700

Subject: RE: RD Internship criteria

I remember that my internship had specific course requirements that also

matched the university's program for Nutrition. The internship director and

others reviewed all applications that included transcripts, letters of

recommendation, and a personal letter of application. I've also sat on the

selection board for my same internship a few years after I earned my RD. So if

you have a student who is failing for lack of basic knowledge, the issue is your

internships' criteria for acceptance.

We did have to fail an intern who lacked math skills and couldn't keep up with

the basic clinical workload. She ended up going back to school in the nursing

career field.

Holly

----------

Holly Lee Brewer, MS RD CDE

Pediatric Dietitian, Diabetes Educator

Medical Nutrition Therapist, Las Vegas, NV

Maj Holly Brewer, USAFR BSC

http://hollyinbalad.blogspot.com

Malcom Grow Medical Center, s AFB, MD (Oct-Dec 2009)

Joint Base Balad, Iraq (Jan-Jul 2009)

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>

> >

>

> > Hi all -

>

> > I have a concern/question: What are the requirements

> to get into a

>

> > dietetic internship?Is there a need to have a certain

> # of credits in

>

> > nutrition?Is there a need to actually know basic

> textbook nutrition

>

> > information so that the internship will teach how to

> implement the

>

> > textbook into practice?Or. ... should we teach basic

> nutrition during

>

> > the clinical rotation?

>

> >

>

> > Merav Levi, RD, MS, CDNhttp://www. linkedin. com/in/meravlevi

>

> > <CDNhttp://www.linkedin.com/in/meravlevi'>http://www.linkedin.com/in/meravlevi>

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[Guest guest]

Merav,

There are most definitely set requirements for acceptance to

internships. If you are precepting interns you should be familiar with

what interns are expected to know before they walk in the door

(Foundation Knowledge). Go to http://www.eatright.org/CADE/content.aspx?id=40

and peruse the site. There you can download the 2008 Foundation

Knowledge and Competencies. These documents describe what is expected

to be learned and experienced in order to be eligible to sit for the

registration examination. Programs do have some leeway in how they

meet the standards, though. If you have questions regarding a

particular program, simply contact the program director.

Pam Charney, PhD, RD

Affiliate Associate Professor

Pharmacy

MS Student

Clinical Informatics and Patient Centered Technology

School of Nursing

University of Washington

Seattle, WA

pcharney@...

http://www.linkedin.com/in/pamcharney

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> Thanks.

> This is what I thought, though its not " my internship criteria " but

> we accept interns for their clinical rotation. we don't run the

> program/internship or have any control of acceptance in any way or

> form.

>

> Merav Levi, RD, MS, CDNhttp://www.linkedin.com/in/meravlevi'>http://www.linkedin.com/in/meravlevi

>

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> To: rd-usa

> From: hlbrewer@...

> Date: Mon, 12 Apr 2010 18:23:56 -0700

> Subject: RE: RD Internship criteria

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> I remember that my internship had specific course requirements

> that also matched the university's program for Nutrition. The

> internship director and others reviewed all applications that

> included transcripts, letters of recommendation, and a personal

> letter of application. I've also sat on the selection board for my

> same internship a few years after I earned my RD. So if you have a

> student who is failing for lack of basic knowledge, the issue is

> your internships' criteria for acceptance.

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> We did have to fail an intern who lacked math skills and couldn't

> keep up with the basic clinical workload. She ended up going back

> to school in the nursing career field.

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> Holly Lee Brewer, MS RD CDE

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> Pediatric Dietitian, Diabetes Educator

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> Medical Nutrition Therapist, Las Vegas, NV

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> Maj Holly Brewer, USAFR BSC

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> http://hollyinbalad.blogspot.com

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> Malcom Grow Medical Center, s AFB, MD (Oct-Dec 2009)

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> Joint Base Balad, Iraq (Jan-Jul 2009)

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[Guest guest]

I just have to weigh in here! I also work at a hospital which gets interns for

the clinical rotation. This year I have been especially disappointed and

honestly, appalled at the poor preparation and lack of basic nutrition

knowledge. I have had 2 interns on separate occasions look at me like I am

crazy when I ask them how many calories are in a gram of protein, carb, and fat.

I have a hard time letting these students do " staff relief " when they can't even

tell me the basics . . . I'm not even asking for critical thinking and problem

solving skills. Just had to vent!

>

>

> Hi all -

> I have a concern/question:What are the requirements to get into a dietetic

internship?Is there a need to have a certain # of credits in nutrition?Is there

a need to actually know basic textbook nutrition information so that the

internship will teach how to implement the textbook into practice?Or.... should

we teach basic nutrition during the clinical rotation?

>

> Merav Levi, RD, MS, CDNhttp://www.linkedin.com/in/meravlevi

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

I just have to weigh in here! I also work at a hospital which gets interns for

the clinical rotation. This year I have been especially disappointed and

honestly, appalled at the poor preparation and lack of basic nutrition

knowledge. I have had 2 interns on separate occasions look at me like I am

crazy when I ask them how many calories are in a gram of protein, carb, and fat.

I have a hard time letting these students do " staff relief " when they can't even

tell me the basics . . . I'm not even asking for critical thinking and problem

solving skills. Just had to vent!

>

>

> Hi all -

> I have a concern/question:What are the requirements to get into a dietetic

internship?Is there a need to have a certain # of credits in nutrition?Is there

a need to actually know basic textbook nutrition information so that the

internship will teach how to implement the textbook into practice?Or.... should

we teach basic nutrition during the clinical rotation?

>

> Merav Levi, RD, MS, CDNhttp://www.linkedin.com/in/meravlevi

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

I just have to weigh in here! I also work at a hospital which gets interns for

the clinical rotation. This year I have been especially disappointed and

honestly, appalled at the poor preparation and lack of basic nutrition

knowledge. I have had 2 interns on separate occasions look at me like I am

crazy when I ask them how many calories are in a gram of protein, carb, and fat.

I have a hard time letting these students do " staff relief " when they can't even

tell me the basics . . . I'm not even asking for critical thinking and problem

solving skills. Just had to vent!

>

>

> Hi all -

> I have a concern/question:What are the requirements to get into a dietetic

internship?Is there a need to have a certain # of credits in nutrition?Is there

a need to actually know basic textbook nutrition information so that the

internship will teach how to implement the textbook into practice?Or.... should

we teach basic nutrition during the clinical rotation?

>

> Merav Levi, RD, MS, CDNhttp://www.linkedin.com/in/meravlevi

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

I teach a senior level nutrition class and they are taught nutrition diagnosis ,

etc..... We go over clinical recommendation for major disease states( resp

failure, renal failure, liver failure, etc...) By the time they graduate

undergrad, they have been introduced to these topics-- so your intern sounds

like she needs to retake a few classes and come back when she is a little better

educated.

Staci Freeworth

Sent from my iPod

Thanks Pat.I looked at it.It looks very vague.It seems like one should have a

BA/BS in SOMETHING. It does not specify nutrition!I am shocked. How could

someone who , lets say has a BS in biology or physics, could practice " evidence

based " science and apply it in a clinical nutrition arena?How could someone like

that could be a candidate to the dietetic internship and be accepted? How could

someone with that background could finish an internship and start clinical

practice? and please don't say that this is why we have the RD exam.

" These requirements may be met through separate courses, combined into one

course, or as part of several courses as determined by

the college or university sponsoring a CADE-accredited program. " from the

COMMISSION ON ACCREDITATION FOR DIETETICS EDUCATION

2008 FOUNDATION KNOWLEDGE AND COMPETENCIES – DIETITIAN

EDUCATIONhttp://www.eatright.org/uploadedFiles/CADE/CADE-General-Content/3-08_RD\'>http://www.eatright.org/uploadedFiles/CADE/CADE-General-Content/3-08_RD\

-FKC_Only.pdf

I am hoping I am misunderstanding something. but if not - this is very sad for

our reputation and explains to me different knowledge level when coming to

clinical rotation.

he reason I got into this - I have an intern who doesn't know much (to say the

least) how different diagnosis apply to her when coming to recommend nutrition

intervention. And that's even before looking into labs and what do they mean for

us? I don't think I should teach, during the internship, nutrition 101. I

thought, and please feel free to correct me if I am wrong, that during an

internship, one should learn how to apply the textbook/new evidence-based

articles into practice., so that at the end of the rotation they are ready for

an entry level position....

Merav Levi, RD, MS, CDNhttp://www.linkedin.com/in/meravlevi'>http://www.linkedin.com/in/meravlevi

To: rd-usa

From: pbolling@...

Date: Mon, 12 Apr 2010 18:09:33 -0600

Subject: Re: RD Internship criteria

Merav,

This is a link from the student center on the ADA website that will

probably answer your questions re academic requirements that must be met

before applying to a dietetic internship. http://www.eatright.org/cade/

Pat

Merav Levi wrote:

Hi all -

I have a concern/question: What are the requirements to get into a

dietetic internship?Is there a need to have a certain # of credits in

nutrition?Is there a need to actually know basic textbook nutrition

information so that the internship will teach how to implement the

textbook into practice?Or. ... should we teach basic nutrition during

the clinical rotation?

Merav Levi, RD, MS, CDNhttp://www. linkedin. com/in/meravlevi

<CDNhttp://www.linkedin.com/in/meravlevi'>http://www.linkedin.com/in/meravlevi>

[Guest guest]

I teach a senior level nutrition class and they are taught nutrition diagnosis ,

etc..... We go over clinical recommendation for major disease states( resp

failure, renal failure, liver failure, etc...) By the time they graduate

undergrad, they have been introduced to these topics-- so your intern sounds

like she needs to retake a few classes and come back when she is a little better

educated.

Staci Freeworth

Sent from my iPod

Thanks Pat.I looked at it.It looks very vague.It seems like one should have a

BA/BS in SOMETHING. It does not specify nutrition!I am shocked. How could

someone who , lets say has a BS in biology or physics, could practice " evidence

based " science and apply it in a clinical nutrition arena?How could someone like

that could be a candidate to the dietetic internship and be accepted? How could

someone with that background could finish an internship and start clinical

practice? and please don't say that this is why we have the RD exam.

" These requirements may be met through separate courses, combined into one

course, or as part of several courses as determined by

the college or university sponsoring a CADE-accredited program. " from the

COMMISSION ON ACCREDITATION FOR DIETETICS EDUCATION

2008 FOUNDATION KNOWLEDGE AND COMPETENCIES – DIETITIAN

EDUCATIONhttp://www.eatright.org/uploadedFiles/CADE/CADE-General-Content/3-08_RD\'>http://www.eatright.org/uploadedFiles/CADE/CADE-General-Content/3-08_RD\

-FKC_Only.pdf

I am hoping I am misunderstanding something. but if not - this is very sad for

our reputation and explains to me different knowledge level when coming to

clinical rotation.

he reason I got into this - I have an intern who doesn't know much (to say the

least) how different diagnosis apply to her when coming to recommend nutrition

intervention. And that's even before looking into labs and what do they mean for

us? I don't think I should teach, during the internship, nutrition 101. I

thought, and please feel free to correct me if I am wrong, that during an

internship, one should learn how to apply the textbook/new evidence-based

articles into practice., so that at the end of the rotation they are ready for

an entry level position....

Merav Levi, RD, MS, CDNhttp://www.linkedin.com/in/meravlevi'>http://www.linkedin.com/in/meravlevi

To: rd-usa

From: pbolling@...

Date: Mon, 12 Apr 2010 18:09:33 -0600

Subject: Re: RD Internship criteria

Merav,

This is a link from the student center on the ADA website that will

probably answer your questions re academic requirements that must be met

before applying to a dietetic internship. http://www.eatright.org/cade/

Pat

Merav Levi wrote:

Hi all -

I have a concern/question: What are the requirements to get into a

dietetic internship?Is there a need to have a certain # of credits in

nutrition?Is there a need to actually know basic textbook nutrition

information so that the internship will teach how to implement the

textbook into practice?Or. ... should we teach basic nutrition during

the clinical rotation?

Merav Levi, RD, MS, CDNhttp://www. linkedin. com/in/meravlevi

<CDNhttp://www.linkedin.com/in/meravlevi'>http://www.linkedin.com/in/meravlevi>

[Guest guest]

I teach a senior level nutrition class and they are taught nutrition diagnosis ,

etc..... We go over clinical recommendation for major disease states( resp

failure, renal failure, liver failure, etc...) By the time they graduate

undergrad, they have been introduced to these topics-- so your intern sounds

like she needs to retake a few classes and come back when she is a little better

educated.

Staci Freeworth

Sent from my iPod

Thanks Pat.I looked at it.It looks very vague.It seems like one should have a

BA/BS in SOMETHING. It does not specify nutrition!I am shocked. How could

someone who , lets say has a BS in biology or physics, could practice " evidence

based " science and apply it in a clinical nutrition arena?How could someone like

that could be a candidate to the dietetic internship and be accepted? How could

someone with that background could finish an internship and start clinical

practice? and please don't say that this is why we have the RD exam.

" These requirements may be met through separate courses, combined into one

course, or as part of several courses as determined by

the college or university sponsoring a CADE-accredited program. " from the

COMMISSION ON ACCREDITATION FOR DIETETICS EDUCATION

2008 FOUNDATION KNOWLEDGE AND COMPETENCIES – DIETITIAN

EDUCATIONhttp://www.eatright.org/uploadedFiles/CADE/CADE-General-Content/3-08_RD\'>http://www.eatright.org/uploadedFiles/CADE/CADE-General-Content/3-08_RD\

-FKC_Only.pdf

I am hoping I am misunderstanding something. but if not - this is very sad for

our reputation and explains to me different knowledge level when coming to

clinical rotation.

he reason I got into this - I have an intern who doesn't know much (to say the

least) how different diagnosis apply to her when coming to recommend nutrition

intervention. And that's even before looking into labs and what do they mean for

us? I don't think I should teach, during the internship, nutrition 101. I

thought, and please feel free to correct me if I am wrong, that during an

internship, one should learn how to apply the textbook/new evidence-based

articles into practice., so that at the end of the rotation they are ready for

an entry level position....

Merav Levi, RD, MS, CDNhttp://www.linkedin.com/in/meravlevi'>http://www.linkedin.com/in/meravlevi

To: rd-usa

From: pbolling@...

Date: Mon, 12 Apr 2010 18:09:33 -0600

Subject: Re: RD Internship criteria

Merav,

This is a link from the student center on the ADA website that will

probably answer your questions re academic requirements that must be met

before applying to a dietetic internship. http://www.eatright.org/cade/

Pat

Merav Levi wrote:

Hi all -

I have a concern/question: What are the requirements to get into a

dietetic internship?Is there a need to have a certain # of credits in

nutrition?Is there a need to actually know basic textbook nutrition

information so that the internship will teach how to implement the

textbook into practice?Or. ... should we teach basic nutrition during

the clinical rotation?

Merav Levi, RD, MS, CDNhttp://www. linkedin. com/in/meravlevi

<CDNhttp://www.linkedin.com/in/meravlevi'>http://www.linkedin.com/in/meravlevi>

[Guest guest]

________________________________

To: " rd-usa " <rd-usa >

Sent: Mon, April 12, 2010 11:02:08 PM

Subject: Re: RD Internship criteria

I teach a senior level nutrition class and they are taught nutrition diagnosis ,

etc..... We go over clinical recommendation for major disease states( resp

failure, renal failure, liver failure, etc...) By the time they graduate

undergrad, they have been introduced to these topics-- so your intern sounds

like she needs to retake a few classes and come back when she is a little better

educated.

Staci Freeworth

Sent from my iPod

On Apr 12, 2010, at 8:58 PM, Merav Levi <meravlsmsn (DOT) com> wrote:

Thanks Pat.I looked at it.It looks very vague.It seems like one should have a

BA/BS in SOMETHING. It does not specify nutrition!I am shocked. How could

someone who , lets say has a BS in biology or physics, could practice " evidence

based " science and apply it in a clinical nutrition arena?How could someone like

that could be a candidate to the dietetic internship and be accepted? How could

someone with that background could finish an internship and start clinical

practice? and please don't say that this is why we have the RD exam.

" These requirements may be met through separate courses, combined into one

course, or as part of several courses as determined by

the college or university sponsoring a CADE-accredited program. " from the

COMMISSION ON ACCREDITATION FOR DIETETICS EDUCATION

2008 FOUNDATION KNOWLEDGE AND COMPETENCIES – DIETITIAN EDUCATIONhttp:

//www.eatright. org/uploadedFile s/CADE/CADE- General-Content/ 3-08_RD-FKC_

Only.pdf

I am hoping I am misunderstanding something. but if not - this is very sad for

our reputation and explains to me different knowledge level when coming to

clinical rotation.

he reason I got into this - I have an intern who doesn't know much (to say the

least) how different diagnosis apply to her when coming to recommend nutrition

intervention. And that's even before looking into labs and what do they mean for

us? I don't think I should teach, during the internship, nutrition 101. I

thought, and please feel free to correct me if I am wrong, that during an

internship, one should learn how to apply the textbook/new evidence-based

articles into practice., so that at the end of the rotation they are ready for

an entry level position....

Merav Levi, RD, MS, CDNhttp://www. linkedin. com/in/meravlevi

To: rd-usayahoogroups (DOT) com

From: pbollingbresnan (DOT) net

Date: Mon, 12 Apr 2010 18:09:33 -0600

Subject: Re: RD Internship criteria

Merav,

This is a link from the student center on the ADA website that will

probably answer your questions re academic requirements that must be met

before applying to a dietetic internship. http://www.eatright.org/cade/

Pat

Merav Levi wrote:

Hi all -

I have a concern/question: What are the requirements to get into a

dietetic internship?Is there a need to have a certain # of credits in

nutrition?Is there a need to actually know basic textbook nutrition

information so that the internship will teach how to implement the

textbook into practice?Or. ... should we teach basic nutrition during

the clinical rotation?

Merav Levi, RD, MS, CDNhttp://www. linkedin. com/in/meravlevi

<CDNhttp://www. linkedin. com/in/meravlevi>

[Guest guest]

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To: " rd-usa " <rd-usa >

Sent: Mon, April 12, 2010 11:02:08 PM

Subject: Re: RD Internship criteria

I teach a senior level nutrition class and they are taught nutrition diagnosis ,

etc..... We go over clinical recommendation for major disease states( resp

failure, renal failure, liver failure, etc...) By the time they graduate

undergrad, they have been introduced to these topics-- so your intern sounds

like she needs to retake a few classes and come back when she is a little better

educated.

Staci Freeworth

Sent from my iPod

On Apr 12, 2010, at 8:58 PM, Merav Levi <meravlsmsn (DOT) com> wrote:

Thanks Pat.I looked at it.It looks very vague.It seems like one should have a

BA/BS in SOMETHING. It does not specify nutrition!I am shocked. How could

someone who , lets say has a BS in biology or physics, could practice " evidence

based " science and apply it in a clinical nutrition arena?How could someone like

that could be a candidate to the dietetic internship and be accepted? How could

someone with that background could finish an internship and start clinical

practice? and please don't say that this is why we have the RD exam.

" These requirements may be met through separate courses, combined into one

course, or as part of several courses as determined by

the college or university sponsoring a CADE-accredited program. " from the

COMMISSION ON ACCREDITATION FOR DIETETICS EDUCATION

2008 FOUNDATION KNOWLEDGE AND COMPETENCIES – DIETITIAN EDUCATIONhttp:

//www.eatright. org/uploadedFile s/CADE/CADE- General-Content/ 3-08_RD-FKC_

Only.pdf

I am hoping I am misunderstanding something. but if not - this is very sad for

our reputation and explains to me different knowledge level when coming to

clinical rotation.

he reason I got into this - I have an intern who doesn't know much (to say the

least) how different diagnosis apply to her when coming to recommend nutrition

intervention. And that's even before looking into labs and what do they mean for

us? I don't think I should teach, during the internship, nutrition 101. I

thought, and please feel free to correct me if I am wrong, that during an

internship, one should learn how to apply the textbook/new evidence-based

articles into practice., so that at the end of the rotation they are ready for

an entry level position....

Merav Levi, RD, MS, CDNhttp://www. linkedin. com/in/meravlevi

To: rd-usayahoogroups (DOT) com

From: pbollingbresnan (DOT) net

Date: Mon, 12 Apr 2010 18:09:33 -0600

Subject: Re: RD Internship criteria

Merav,

This is a link from the student center on the ADA website that will

probably answer your questions re academic requirements that must be met

before applying to a dietetic internship. http://www.eatright.org/cade/

Pat

Merav Levi wrote:

Hi all -

I have a concern/question: What are the requirements to get into a

dietetic internship?Is there a need to have a certain # of credits in

nutrition?Is there a need to actually know basic textbook nutrition

information so that the internship will teach how to implement the

textbook into practice?Or. ... should we teach basic nutrition during

the clinical rotation?

Merav Levi, RD, MS, CDNhttp://www. linkedin. com/in/meravlevi

<CDNhttp://www. linkedin. com/in/meravlevi>

[Guest guest]

________________________________

To: " rd-usa " <rd-usa >

Sent: Mon, April 12, 2010 11:02:08 PM

Subject: Re: RD Internship criteria

I teach a senior level nutrition class and they are taught nutrition diagnosis ,

etc..... We go over clinical recommendation for major disease states( resp

failure, renal failure, liver failure, etc...) By the time they graduate

undergrad, they have been introduced to these topics-- so your intern sounds

like she needs to retake a few classes and come back when she is a little better

educated.

Staci Freeworth

Sent from my iPod

On Apr 12, 2010, at 8:58 PM, Merav Levi <meravlsmsn (DOT) com> wrote:

Thanks Pat.I looked at it.It looks very vague.It seems like one should have a

BA/BS in SOMETHING. It does not specify nutrition!I am shocked. How could

someone who , lets say has a BS in biology or physics, could practice " evidence

based " science and apply it in a clinical nutrition arena?How could someone like

that could be a candidate to the dietetic internship and be accepted? How could

someone with that background could finish an internship and start clinical

practice? and please don't say that this is why we have the RD exam.

" These requirements may be met through separate courses, combined into one

course, or as part of several courses as determined by

the college or university sponsoring a CADE-accredited program. " from the

COMMISSION ON ACCREDITATION FOR DIETETICS EDUCATION

2008 FOUNDATION KNOWLEDGE AND COMPETENCIES – DIETITIAN EDUCATIONhttp:

//www.eatright. org/uploadedFile s/CADE/CADE- General-Content/ 3-08_RD-FKC_

Only.pdf

I am hoping I am misunderstanding something. but if not - this is very sad for

our reputation and explains to me different knowledge level when coming to

clinical rotation.

he reason I got into this - I have an intern who doesn't know much (to say the

least) how different diagnosis apply to her when coming to recommend nutrition

intervention. And that's even before looking into labs and what do they mean for

us? I don't think I should teach, during the internship, nutrition 101. I

thought, and please feel free to correct me if I am wrong, that during an

internship, one should learn how to apply the textbook/new evidence-based

articles into practice., so that at the end of the rotation they are ready for

an entry level position....

Merav Levi, RD, MS, CDNhttp://www. linkedin. com/in/meravlevi

To: rd-usayahoogroups (DOT) com

From: pbollingbresnan (DOT) net

Date: Mon, 12 Apr 2010 18:09:33 -0600

Subject: Re: RD Internship criteria

Merav,

This is a link from the student center on the ADA website that will

probably answer your questions re academic requirements that must be met

before applying to a dietetic internship. http://www.eatright.org/cade/

Pat

Merav Levi wrote:

Hi all -

I have a concern/question: What are the requirements to get into a

dietetic internship?Is there a need to have a certain # of credits in

nutrition?Is there a need to actually know basic textbook nutrition

information so that the internship will teach how to implement the

textbook into practice?Or. ... should we teach basic nutrition during

the clinical rotation?

Merav Levi, RD, MS, CDNhttp://www. linkedin. com/in/meravlevi

<CDNhttp://www. linkedin. com/in/meravlevi>

[Guest guest]

Merav,

I saw that others have commented on the basic requirements a student

must meet before applying to an internship. I believe that people

decide at different times in their academic experience that they want to

become RDs. While the norm is an undergrad degree in dietetics or food

and nutrition some may come from different backgrounds and meet the

course requirements separately. ADA has endeavored to meet people

where they are instead of demanding that everyone have the same academic

experience starting with freshman year. I sit on a licensure board of

several professions including nutrition. It's rare that I am asked to

review an application because they are routine. A recent one was from

someone with a BA and earlier major in the home economics area who had

taken all the required extra courses, completed an internship, passed

the CDR exam. We checked with ADA that the applicant met all the

requirements without a dietetics major. My own BA and a masters are in

biological sciences. Then I got an MS in Nutrition and Food Science and

went to an internship.

Pat Bollinger, MS RD

Merav Levi wrote:

>

>

>

> Hi all -

> I have a concern/question: What are the requirements to get into a

> dietetic internship?Is there a need to have a certain # of credits in

> nutrition?Is there a need to actually know basic textbook nutrition

> information so that the internship will teach how to implement the

> textbook into practice?Or. ... should we teach basic nutrition during

> the clinical rotation?

>

> Merav Levi, RD, MS, CDNhttp://www. linkedin. com/in/meravlevi

> <CDNhttp://www.linkedin.com/in/meravlevi>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Pat,

I'm so glad to read this about alternative methods to attain the RD credential.

One of my best staff RDs was a home-ec major, highly skilled in textiles and

design, yet became an RD after a traditional BA degree and MA. She's good

clinically, but excels in food production, kitchen layout and design, equipment,

organization, and team building. Quite a mixed bag but still a great RD in every

situation. In order for us to survive as a profession we must accept and

embrace diversity, not just ethnic diversity, but in every other way too.

Digna

Re: RD Internship criteria

Merav,

I saw that others have commented on the basic requirements a student

must meet before applying to an internship. I believe that people

decide at different times in their academic experience that they want to

become RDs. While the norm is an undergrad degree in dietetics or food

and nutrition some may come from different backgrounds and meet the

course requirements separately. ADA has endeavored to meet people

where they are instead of demanding that everyone have the same academic

experience starting with freshman year. I sit on a licensure board of

several professions including nutrition. It's rare that I am asked to

review an application because they are routine. A recent one was from

someone with a BA and earlier major in the home economics area who had

taken all the required extra courses, completed an internship, passed

the CDR exam. We checked with ADA that the applicant met all the

requirements without a dietetics major. My own BA and a masters are in

biological sciences. Then I got an MS in Nutrition and Food Science and

went to an internship.

Pat Bollinger, MS RD

Merav Levi wrote:

>

>

>

> Hi all -

> I have a concern/question: What are the requirements to get into a

> dietetic internship?Is there a need to have a certain # of credits in

> nutrition?Is there a need to actually know basic textbook nutrition

> information so that the internship will teach how to implement the

> textbook into practice?Or. ... should we teach basic nutrition during

> the clinical rotation?

>

> Merav Levi, RD, MS, CDNhttp://www. linkedin. com/in/meravlevi

> <CDNhttp://www.linkedin.com/in/meravlevi>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Pat,

I'm so glad to read this about alternative methods to attain the RD credential.

One of my best staff RDs was a home-ec major, highly skilled in textiles and

design, yet became an RD after a traditional BA degree and MA. She's good

clinically, but excels in food production, kitchen layout and design, equipment,

organization, and team building. Quite a mixed bag but still a great RD in every

situation. In order for us to survive as a profession we must accept and

embrace diversity, not just ethnic diversity, but in every other way too.

Digna

Re: RD Internship criteria

Merav,

I saw that others have commented on the basic requirements a student

must meet before applying to an internship. I believe that people

decide at different times in their academic experience that they want to

become RDs. While the norm is an undergrad degree in dietetics or food

and nutrition some may come from different backgrounds and meet the

course requirements separately. ADA has endeavored to meet people

where they are instead of demanding that everyone have the same academic

experience starting with freshman year. I sit on a licensure board of

several professions including nutrition. It's rare that I am asked to

review an application because they are routine. A recent one was from

someone with a BA and earlier major in the home economics area who had

taken all the required extra courses, completed an internship, passed

the CDR exam. We checked with ADA that the applicant met all the

requirements without a dietetics major. My own BA and a masters are in

biological sciences. Then I got an MS in Nutrition and Food Science and

went to an internship.

Pat Bollinger, MS RD

Merav Levi wrote:

>

>

>

> Hi all -

> I have a concern/question: What are the requirements to get into a

> dietetic internship?Is there a need to have a certain # of credits in

> nutrition?Is there a need to actually know basic textbook nutrition

> information so that the internship will teach how to implement the

> textbook into practice?Or. ... should we teach basic nutrition during

> the clinical rotation?

>

> Merav Levi, RD, MS, CDNhttp://www. linkedin. com/in/meravlevi

> <CDNhttp://www.linkedin.com/in/meravlevi>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

I wish I was such " affluent " ...I am a mia lebra and required to precept intern

and I actually knew the criteria only needed to know that I am not wrong and

that nothing have changed. Gladly not and this is the first intern in years that

I see who doesn't know the basic knowledge. I reported it and beyond this - I

can't control what will be done with her. So please Pat, be more careful when

you state something like " If you are precepting interns you should be familiar

with what interns are expected to know before they walk in the door (Foundation

Knowledge) " . It just doesn't come across well in an e-mail. Regardless - thanks

for your help.It seems to me that in this case I know what are the requirement

more then the one who runs the internship and the one who control acceptance.

Now I have it in writing, thanks to you.

Merav Levi, RD, MS, CDNhttp://www.linkedin.com/in/meravlevi'>http://www.linkedin.com/in/meravlevi

To: rd-usa

From: pcharney@...

Date: Mon, 12 Apr 2010 19:13:01 -0700

Subject: Re: RD Internship criteria

Merav,

There are most definitely set requirements for acceptance to

internships. If you are precepting interns you should be familiar with

what interns are expected to know before they walk in the door

(Foundation Knowledge). Go to http://www.eatright.org/CADE/content.aspx?id=40

and peruse the site. There you can download the 2008 Foundation

Knowledge and Competencies. These documents describe what is expected

to be learned and experienced in order to be eligible to sit for the

registration examination. Programs do have some leeway in how they

meet the standards, though. If you have questions regarding a

particular program, simply contact the program director.

Pam Charney, PhD, RD

Affiliate Associate Professor

Pharmacy

MS Student

Clinical Informatics and Patient Centered Technology

School of Nursing

University of Washington

Seattle, WA

pcharney@...

http://www.linkedin.com/in/pamcharney

>

> Thanks.

> This is what I thought, though its not " my internship criteria " but

> we accept interns for their clinical rotation. we don't run the

> program/internship or have any control of acceptance in any way or

> form.

>

> Merav Levi, RD, MS, CDNhttp://www.linkedin.com/in/meravlevi'>http://www.linkedin.com/in/meravlevi

>

>

>

> To: rd-usa

> From: hlbrewer@...

> Date: Mon, 12 Apr 2010 18:23:56 -0700

> Subject: RE: RD Internship criteria

>

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> I remember that my internship had specific course requirements

> that also matched the university's program for Nutrition. The

> internship director and others reviewed all applications that

> included transcripts, letters of recommendation, and a personal

> letter of application. I've also sat on the selection board for my

> same internship a few years after I earned my RD. So if you have a

> student who is failing for lack of basic knowledge, the issue is

> your internships' criteria for acceptance.

>

> We did have to fail an intern who lacked math skills and couldn't

> keep up with the basic clinical workload. She ended up going back

> to school in the nursing career field.

>

>

>

> Holly

>

> ----------

>

> Holly Lee Brewer, MS RD CDE

>

> Pediatric Dietitian, Diabetes Educator

>

> Medical Nutrition Therapist, Las Vegas, NV

>

>

>

> Maj Holly Brewer, USAFR BSC

>

> http://hollyinbalad.blogspot.com

>

> Malcom Grow Medical Center, s AFB, MD (Oct-Dec 2009)

>

> Joint Base Balad, Iraq (Jan-Jul 2009)

>

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>>> Hi all -

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>>> I have a concern/question: What are the requirements

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>> to get into a

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>>> dietetic internship?Is there a need to have a certain

>

>> # of credits in

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>>> nutrition?Is there a need to actually know basic

>

>> textbook nutrition

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>>> information so that the internship will teach how to

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>>> textbook into practice?Or. ... should we teach basic

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>>> Merav Levi, RD, MS, CDNhttp://www. linkedin. com/in/meravlevi

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[Guest guest]

A colleague of mine told me of a co-worker who said that there are 160 calories

in a glass of WATER!!!! (yes, you might want to read it again! this is not an

intern!!!)

It seems to me that these days there are not so many dietetic students to accept

to the internship so that internship programs are " cutting corners " .... are we

talking about $$$$ again?

Merav Levi, RD, MS, CDNhttp://www.linkedin.com/in/meravlevi

To: rd-usa

From: rdgina@...

Date: Tue, 13 Apr 2010 02:39:09 +0000

Subject: Re: RD Internship criteria

I just have to weigh in here! I also work at a hospital which gets

interns for the clinical rotation. This year I have been especially

disappointed and honestly, appalled at the poor preparation and lack of basic

nutrition knowledge. I have had 2 interns on separate occasions look at me like

I am crazy when I ask them how many calories are in a gram of protein, carb, and

fat. I have a hard time letting these students do " staff relief " when they

can't even tell me the basics . . . I'm not even asking for critical thinking

and problem solving skills. Just had to vent!

>

>

> Hi all -

> I have a concern/question:What are the requirements to get into a dietetic

internship?Is there a need to have a certain # of credits in nutrition?Is there

a need to actually know basic textbook nutrition information so that the

internship will teach how to implement the textbook into practice?Or.... should

we teach basic nutrition during the clinical rotation?

>

> Merav Levi, RD, MS, CDNhttp://www.linkedin.com/in/meravlevi

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

I quit having interns when I had an intern

one year that couldn't figure out percent

ideal body weight. She didn't understand

the concept of percentages--- I had to draw

pie chart to explain 25% of something.

When she finished her rotation with me

I asked her not to do clinical dietetics, if

passed the test, I told her she might

kill someone ...

I later heard she passed her test and was

working for the state... as an inspector!

She walked into one of my buildings one

day and I told the administrator we were

sunk - payback for me not giving her a

good review during her internship.

My admin later told me we got rave reviews

and the RD told him he was lucky to have

me because I was the best RD she ever

worked with.

Karma....

Tina Marie

Sent from my iPhone

I just have to weigh in here! I also work at a hospital which gets interns for

the clinical rotation. This year I have been especially disappointed and

honestly, appalled at the poor preparation and lack of basic nutrition

knowledge. I have had 2 interns on separate occasions look at me like I am crazy

when I ask them how many calories are in a gram of protein, carb, and fat. I

have a hard time letting these students do " staff relief " when they can't even

tell me the basics . . . I'm not even asking for critical thinking and problem

solving skills. Just had to vent!

>

>

> Hi all -

> I have a concern/question:What are the requirements to get into a dietetic

internship?Is there a need to have a certain # of credits in nutrition?Is there

a need to actually know basic textbook nutrition information so that the

internship will teach how to implement the textbook into practice?Or.... should

we teach basic nutrition during the clinical rotation?

>

> Merav Levi, RD, MS, CDNhttp://www.linkedin.com/in/meravlevi

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Sadly, you are right. She comes from a biology background with ONE MNT class....

Merav Levi, RD, MS, CDN

http://www.linkedin.com/in/meravlevi

To: rd-usa

From: sfreeworth@...

Date: Mon, 12 Apr 2010 20:02:08 -0700

Subject: Re: RD Internship criteria

I teach a senior level nutrition class and they are taught nutrition diagnosis ,

etc..... We go over clinical recommendation for major disease states( resp

failure, renal failure, liver failure, etc...) By the time they graduate

undergrad, they have been introduced to these topics-- so your intern sounds

like she needs to retake a few classes and come back when she is a little better

educated.

Staci Freeworth

Sent from my iPod

Thanks Pat.I looked at it.It looks very vague.It seems like one should have a

BA/BS in SOMETHING. It does not specify nutrition!I am shocked. How could

someone who , lets say has a BS in biology or physics, could practice " evidence

based " science and apply it in a clinical nutrition arena?How could someone like

that could be a candidate to the dietetic internship and be accepted? How could

someone with that background could finish an internship and start clinical

practice? and please don't say that this is why we have the RD exam.

" These requirements may be met through separate courses, combined into one

course, or as part of several courses as determined by

the college or university sponsoring a CADE-accredited program. " from the

COMMISSION ON ACCREDITATION FOR DIETETICS EDUCATION

2008 FOUNDATION KNOWLEDGE AND COMPETENCIES – DIETITIAN

EDUCATIONhttp://www.eatright.org/uploadedFiles/CADE/CADE-General-Content/3-08_RD\'>http://www.eatright.org/uploadedFiles/CADE/CADE-General-Content/3-08_RD\

-FKC_Only.pdf

I am hoping I am misunderstanding something. but if not - this is very sad for

our reputation and explains to me different knowledge level when coming to

clinical rotation.

he reason I got into this - I have an intern who doesn't know much (to say the

least) how different diagnosis apply to her when coming to recommend nutrition

intervention. And that's even before looking into labs and what do they mean for

us? I don't think I should teach, during the internship, nutrition 101. I

thought, and please feel free to correct me if I am wrong, that during an

internship, one should learn how to apply the textbook/new evidence-based

articles into practice., so that at the end of the rotation they are ready for

an entry level position....

Merav Levi, RD, MS, CDNhttp://www.linkedin.com/in/meravlevi'>http://www.linkedin.com/in/meravlevi

To: rd-usa

From: pbolling@...

Date: Mon, 12 Apr 2010 18:09:33 -0600

Subject: Re: RD Internship criteria

Merav,

This is a link from the student center on the ADA website that will

probably answer your questions re academic requirements that must be met

before applying to a dietetic internship. http://www.eatright.org/cade/

Pat

Merav Levi wrote:

Hi all -

I have a concern/question: What are the requirements to get into a

dietetic internship?Is there a need to have a certain # of credits in

nutrition?Is there a need to actually know basic textbook nutrition

information so that the internship will teach how to implement the

textbook into practice?Or. ... should we teach basic nutrition during

the clinical rotation?

Merav Levi, RD, MS, CDNhttp://www. linkedin. com/in/meravlevi

<CDNhttp://www.linkedin.com/in/meravlevi'>http://www.linkedin.com/in/meravlevi>

[Guest guest]

I agree that someone can become an RD coming from a differnt background, if

taking additional classes in nutrition and food science to meet the criteria.

Unforutaly - this is not the case with my intrern.

Merav Levi, RD, MS, CDN

http://www.linkedin.com/in/meravlevi

To: rd-usa

From: pbolling@...

Date: Mon, 12 Apr 2010 22:55:41 -0600

Subject: Re: RD Internship criteria

Merav,

I saw that others have commented on the basic requirements a student

must meet before applying to an internship. I believe that people

decide at different times in their academic experience that they want to

become RDs. While the norm is an undergrad degree in dietetics or food

and nutrition some may come from different backgrounds and meet the

course requirements separately. ADA has endeavored to meet people

where they are instead of demanding that everyone have the same academic

experience starting with freshman year. I sit on a licensure board of

several professions including nutrition. It's rare that I am asked to

review an application because they are routine. A recent one was from

someone with a BA and earlier major in the home economics area who had

taken all the required extra courses, completed an internship, passed

the CDR exam. We checked with ADA that the applicant met all the

requirements without a dietetics major. My own BA and a masters are in

biological sciences. Then I got an MS in Nutrition and Food Science and

went to an internship.

Pat Bollinger, MS RD

Merav Levi wrote:

>

>

>

> Hi all -

> I have a concern/question: What are the requirements to get into a

> dietetic internship?Is there a need to have a certain # of credits in

> nutrition?Is there a need to actually know basic textbook nutrition

> information so that the internship will teach how to implement the

> textbook into practice?Or. ... should we teach basic nutrition during

> the clinical rotation?

>

> Merav Levi, RD, MS, CDNhttp://www. linkedin. com/in/meravlevi

> <CDNhttp://www.linkedin.com/in/meravlevi>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Just my two cents on the topic. I graduated from a CUP program and it was

interesting to see that the " smartest " girl in the group struggled to apply the

information we learned while the person who struggled the most with keeping her

GPA up was spectacular in all of our clinical and administrative work settings

and got rave reviews from everyone she worked with. The " graduated with honors "

girl took one clinical job, bombed out, so she got a masters and went into

research. The " bottom of the class girl " eventually ended up in pharmacutical

sales and made more than any of us! Smarts doesn't always translate to practical

application. Many people learn information for the class/test and promptly

forget it. I found the same thing when I worked as a preceptor at one of my

jobs. The " smartest " people, which is what shows on an application. Often just

didn't get it. The same is true in any field. My husband, an attorney, says he

hates working with " law review " attorneys because they are clueless.

In this same line, that is why I hate skills assessment tests created by

" educators " where you are to pick the " best " answer as choosen by someone who

has never worked daily in the field, whether administratively or clinically.

They really have no clue and it shows.

[Guest guest]

I completley agree with you.

Grades in school has nothing to do with performance. BUT - when you don't even

know the theory, the research, the basic info - how can you start to apply it?

Merav Levi, RD, MS, CDN

http://www.linkedin.com/in/meravlevi

To: rd-usa

From: mimco@...

Date: Tue, 13 Apr 2010 12:27:27 +0000

Subject: Re: RD Internship criteria

Just my two cents on the topic. I graduated from a CUP program and it was

interesting to see that the " smartest " girl in the group struggled to apply the

information we learned while the person who struggled the most with keeping her

GPA up was spectacular in all of our clinical and administrative work settings

and got rave reviews from everyone she worked with. The " graduated with honors "

girl took one clinical job, bombed out, so she got a masters and went into

research. The " bottom of the class girl " eventually ended up in pharmacutical

sales and made more than any of us! Smarts doesn't always translate to practical

application. Many people learn information for the class/test and promptly

forget it. I found the same thing when I worked as a preceptor at one of my

jobs. The " smartest " people, which is what shows on an application. Often just

didn't get it. The same is true in any field. My husband, an attorney, says he

hates working with " law review " attorneys because they are clueless.

In this same line, that is why I hate skills assessment tests created by

" educators " where you are to pick the " best " answer as choosen by someone who

has never worked daily in the field, whether administratively or clinically.

They really have no clue and it shows.

[Guest guest]

My daughters college major was studio art with a jewelry minor. She graduated

with a BA. She worked in the fashion jewelry business for 3 or 4 years and then

went to culinary school and received an AA degree. After working as a caterer

and then a private chef for 7 years, she decided the challenge was not there and

went on to get a masters degree in nutrition. She had had no science courses.

She did the undergraduate requirements in the sciences and then completed her

masters degree in nutrition. Her internship was part of her masters program. She

is an RD. She now teaches nutrition and food science to culinary students. She

also writes (see the March JADA as she is the lead author of the Position

Paper).

There are many ways to get where you want to be.

Madalyn

________________________________

To: rd-usa

Sent: Tue, April 13, 2010 12:55:41 AM

Subject: Re: RD Internship criteria

Merav,

I saw that others have commented on the basic requirements a student

must meet before applying to an internship. I believe that people

decide at different times in their academic experience that they want to

become RDs. While the norm is an undergrad degree in dietetics or food

and nutrition some may come from different backgrounds and meet the

course requirements separately. ADA has endeavored to meet people

where they are instead of demanding that everyone have the same academic

experience starting with freshman year. I sit on a licensure board of

several professions including nutrition. It's rare that I am asked to

review an application because they are routine. A recent one was from

someone with a BA and earlier major in the home economics area who had

taken all the required extra courses, completed an internship, passed

the CDR exam. We checked with ADA that the applicant met all the

requirements without a dietetics major. My own BA and a masters are in

biological sciences. Then I got an MS in Nutrition and Food Science and

went to an internship.

Pat Bollinger, MS RD

Merav Levi wrote:

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> Hi all -

> I have a concern/question: What are the requirements to get into a

> dietetic internship?Is there a need to have a certain # of credits in

> nutrition?Is there a need to actually know basic textbook nutrition

> information so that the internship will teach how to implement the

> textbook into practice?Or. ... should we teach basic nutrition during

> the clinical rotation?

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> Merav Levi, RD, MS, CDNhttp://www. linkedin. com/in/meravlevi

> <CDNhttp://www. linkedin. com/in/meravlevi>

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