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Okay, can't resist. . . ;-)

Aren't uniforms about equalizing all the kids - those that can't afford

expensive clothing aren't set apart from those that can. . . a nice socialist

thing. . . equalize all the students/citizenship by requiring uniforms . .

.. people judge based on personality rather than clothing. You'll tend to

strive to become more of an individual.

Your granddaughter already has the capitalism mindset right. . . work

hard, pay for what you want - if you want to wear denim, you can pay extra for

the right.

The poor kids that can't afford the $5 aren't allowed to wear denim to

school. Work hard to get what we want . . . just the exact post I started out

with!

Jan ;-)

PS. Truly, if you look at the history of the world, socialism just doesn't

work. Never has. It breeds tyranical governments and limits individuality.

Think it works? - ask people from China, Venezuala, Cuba or Russia why they

want to come to the US. Millions of veterans have died protecting our

constitution so we wouldn't have to be socialists. But, that's what our

current admin is trying to lead us into. Again, the heatlh care bill wasn't

about

health - it was about government control of the people. (Talk to an

informed vet if you want more details.)

In a message dated 4/5/2010 12:46:19 P.M. Mountain Daylight Time,

mffrd10019@... writes:

Diane,

I read that you have taught your children the importance of being

responsible citizens. I taught mine and am very pleased to see my grandchildren

being given the same messages. My 14 year old granddaughter just made a

proposal to the Headmaster of her school to allow the students to wear denim

one

day (they wear uniforms) and charge $5 for this privilege with the money

collected going to help the victims of the earthquake in Haiti. The

Headmaster responded that although he was against wearing denim in school he

was so

impressed with her proposal he had to agree. 120 students raised over

$600.

Gratefully there are future generations who will be at the front of the

line teaching values and responsiblity to those whose parents were from the

'me' instant gratification generation and did not have the ability to teach

their children what you have taught yours.

Madalyn

Jan Patenaude, RD, CLT

Consultant, Writer, Speaker

Director of Medical Nutrition

Signet Diagnostic Corporation

(Mountain Time)

Fax:

DineRight4@...

" Though no one can go back and make a brand new start, anyone can start

from now and make a brand new ending. "

~Carl Bard

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Okay, can't resist. . . ;-)

Aren't uniforms about equalizing all the kids - those that can't afford

expensive clothing aren't set apart from those that can. . . a nice socialist

thing. . . equalize all the students/citizenship by requiring uniforms . .

.. people judge based on personality rather than clothing. You'll tend to

strive to become more of an individual.

Your granddaughter already has the capitalism mindset right. . . work

hard, pay for what you want - if you want to wear denim, you can pay extra for

the right.

The poor kids that can't afford the $5 aren't allowed to wear denim to

school. Work hard to get what we want . . . just the exact post I started out

with!

Jan ;-)

PS. Truly, if you look at the history of the world, socialism just doesn't

work. Never has. It breeds tyranical governments and limits individuality.

Think it works? - ask people from China, Venezuala, Cuba or Russia why they

want to come to the US. Millions of veterans have died protecting our

constitution so we wouldn't have to be socialists. But, that's what our

current admin is trying to lead us into. Again, the heatlh care bill wasn't

about

health - it was about government control of the people. (Talk to an

informed vet if you want more details.)

In a message dated 4/5/2010 12:46:19 P.M. Mountain Daylight Time,

mffrd10019@... writes:

Diane,

I read that you have taught your children the importance of being

responsible citizens. I taught mine and am very pleased to see my grandchildren

being given the same messages. My 14 year old granddaughter just made a

proposal to the Headmaster of her school to allow the students to wear denim

one

day (they wear uniforms) and charge $5 for this privilege with the money

collected going to help the victims of the earthquake in Haiti. The

Headmaster responded that although he was against wearing denim in school he

was so

impressed with her proposal he had to agree. 120 students raised over

$600.

Gratefully there are future generations who will be at the front of the

line teaching values and responsiblity to those whose parents were from the

'me' instant gratification generation and did not have the ability to teach

their children what you have taught yours.

Madalyn

Jan Patenaude, RD, CLT

Consultant, Writer, Speaker

Director of Medical Nutrition

Signet Diagnostic Corporation

(Mountain Time)

Fax:

DineRight4@...

" Though no one can go back and make a brand new start, anyone can start

from now and make a brand new ending. "

~Carl Bard

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A question about your granddaughter--is a " headmaster " the principal of a

private school?

Diane

Re: Why socialism won't work -Healthcare bill comments

-can't resist

Okay, can't resist. . . ;-)

Aren't uniforms about equalizing all the kids - those that can't afford

expensive clothing aren't set apart from those that can. . . a nice socialist

thing. . . equalize all the students/citizenship by requiring uniforms . .

. people judge based on personality rather than clothing. You'll tend to

strive to become more of an individual.

Your granddaughter already has the capitalism mindset right. . . work

hard, pay for what you want - if you want to wear denim, you can pay extra for

the right.

The poor kids that can't afford the $5 aren't allowed to wear denim to

school. Work hard to get what we want . . . just the exact post I started out

with!

Jan ;-)

PS. Truly, if you look at the history of the world, socialism just doesn't

work. Never has. It breeds tyranical governments and limits individuality.

Think it works? - ask people from China, Venezuala, Cuba or Russia why they

want to come to the US. Millions of veterans have died protecting our

constitution so we wouldn't have to be socialists. But, that's what our

current admin is trying to lead us into. Again, the heatlh care bill wasn't

about

health - it was about government control of the people. (Talk to an

informed vet if you want more details.)

In a message dated 4/5/2010 12:46:19 P.M. Mountain Daylight Time,

mffrd10019@... writes:

Diane,

I read that you have taught your children the importance of being

responsible citizens. I taught mine and am very pleased to see my

grandchildren

being given the same messages. My 14 year old granddaughter just made a

proposal to the Headmaster of her school to allow the students to wear denim

one

day (they wear uniforms) and charge $5 for this privilege with the money

collected going to help the victims of the earthquake in Haiti. The

Headmaster responded that although he was against wearing denim in school he

was so

impressed with her proposal he had to agree. 120 students raised over

$600.

Gratefully there are future generations who will be at the front of the

line teaching values and responsiblity to those whose parents were from the

'me' instant gratification generation and did not have the ability to teach

their children what you have taught yours.

Madalyn

Jan Patenaude, RD, CLT

Consultant, Writer, Speaker

Director of Medical Nutrition

Signet Diagnostic Corporation

(Mountain Time)

Fax:

DineRight4@...

" Though no one can go back and make a brand new start, anyone can start

from now and make a brand new ending. "

~Carl Bard

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A question about your granddaughter--is a " headmaster " the principal of a

private school?

Diane

Re: Why socialism won't work -Healthcare bill comments

-can't resist

Okay, can't resist. . . ;-)

Aren't uniforms about equalizing all the kids - those that can't afford

expensive clothing aren't set apart from those that can. . . a nice socialist

thing. . . equalize all the students/citizenship by requiring uniforms . .

. people judge based on personality rather than clothing. You'll tend to

strive to become more of an individual.

Your granddaughter already has the capitalism mindset right. . . work

hard, pay for what you want - if you want to wear denim, you can pay extra for

the right.

The poor kids that can't afford the $5 aren't allowed to wear denim to

school. Work hard to get what we want . . . just the exact post I started out

with!

Jan ;-)

PS. Truly, if you look at the history of the world, socialism just doesn't

work. Never has. It breeds tyranical governments and limits individuality.

Think it works? - ask people from China, Venezuala, Cuba or Russia why they

want to come to the US. Millions of veterans have died protecting our

constitution so we wouldn't have to be socialists. But, that's what our

current admin is trying to lead us into. Again, the heatlh care bill wasn't

about

health - it was about government control of the people. (Talk to an

informed vet if you want more details.)

In a message dated 4/5/2010 12:46:19 P.M. Mountain Daylight Time,

mffrd10019@... writes:

Diane,

I read that you have taught your children the importance of being

responsible citizens. I taught mine and am very pleased to see my

grandchildren

being given the same messages. My 14 year old granddaughter just made a

proposal to the Headmaster of her school to allow the students to wear denim

one

day (they wear uniforms) and charge $5 for this privilege with the money

collected going to help the victims of the earthquake in Haiti. The

Headmaster responded that although he was against wearing denim in school he

was so

impressed with her proposal he had to agree. 120 students raised over

$600.

Gratefully there are future generations who will be at the front of the

line teaching values and responsiblity to those whose parents were from the

'me' instant gratification generation and did not have the ability to teach

their children what you have taught yours.

Madalyn

Jan Patenaude, RD, CLT

Consultant, Writer, Speaker

Director of Medical Nutrition

Signet Diagnostic Corporation

(Mountain Time)

Fax:

DineRight4@...

" Though no one can go back and make a brand new start, anyone can start

from now and make a brand new ending. "

~Carl Bard

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A question about your granddaughter--is a " headmaster " the principal of a

private school?

Diane

Re: Why socialism won't work -Healthcare bill comments

-can't resist

Okay, can't resist. . . ;-)

Aren't uniforms about equalizing all the kids - those that can't afford

expensive clothing aren't set apart from those that can. . . a nice socialist

thing. . . equalize all the students/citizenship by requiring uniforms . .

. people judge based on personality rather than clothing. You'll tend to

strive to become more of an individual.

Your granddaughter already has the capitalism mindset right. . . work

hard, pay for what you want - if you want to wear denim, you can pay extra for

the right.

The poor kids that can't afford the $5 aren't allowed to wear denim to

school. Work hard to get what we want . . . just the exact post I started out

with!

Jan ;-)

PS. Truly, if you look at the history of the world, socialism just doesn't

work. Never has. It breeds tyranical governments and limits individuality.

Think it works? - ask people from China, Venezuala, Cuba or Russia why they

want to come to the US. Millions of veterans have died protecting our

constitution so we wouldn't have to be socialists. But, that's what our

current admin is trying to lead us into. Again, the heatlh care bill wasn't

about

health - it was about government control of the people. (Talk to an

informed vet if you want more details.)

In a message dated 4/5/2010 12:46:19 P.M. Mountain Daylight Time,

mffrd10019@... writes:

Diane,

I read that you have taught your children the importance of being

responsible citizens. I taught mine and am very pleased to see my

grandchildren

being given the same messages. My 14 year old granddaughter just made a

proposal to the Headmaster of her school to allow the students to wear denim

one

day (they wear uniforms) and charge $5 for this privilege with the money

collected going to help the victims of the earthquake in Haiti. The

Headmaster responded that although he was against wearing denim in school he

was so

impressed with her proposal he had to agree. 120 students raised over

$600.

Gratefully there are future generations who will be at the front of the

line teaching values and responsiblity to those whose parents were from the

'me' instant gratification generation and did not have the ability to teach

their children what you have taught yours.

Madalyn

Jan Patenaude, RD, CLT

Consultant, Writer, Speaker

Director of Medical Nutrition

Signet Diagnostic Corporation

(Mountain Time)

Fax:

DineRight4@...

" Though no one can go back and make a brand new start, anyone can start

from now and make a brand new ending. "

~Carl Bard

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Jan,

I'm an informed vet and honestly don't have a clue what you mean.

There are also many reasons that schools would want kids to wear

uniforms. One of them might be similar to the reason that the armed

forces and many of our public servant groups wear uniforms. Organized

team sports wear uniforms.

To be honest, I'd love for public schools to go to uniforms. When

visiting countries that do have school uniforms, I have to say, it's

quite fun to talk to kids about their school colors and attire. The

parents love it. Fewer clothes to purchase.

I'm sure you fear socialism, and maybe rightly so. What I don't

understand is why otherwise intelligent individuals equate appropriate

healthcare for all with a form of government. Perhaps you can point me

to the exact spot in the legislation where there is wording that says

" Guess what folks, we're all gonna be socialists now " .

I'm not one to favor fear mongering and much prefer to deal with the

facts and have a debate based on those facts.

Have a lovely evening.

Pam Charney

pcharney@...

> A question about your granddaughter--is a " headmaster " the principal

> of a private school?

>

> Diane

> Re: Why socialism won't work -Healthcare bill

> comments -can't resist

>

> Okay, can't resist. . . ;-)

>

> Aren't uniforms about equalizing all the kids - those that can't

> afford

> expensive clothing aren't set apart from those that can. . . a nice

> socialist

> thing. . . equalize all the students/citizenship by requiring

> uniforms . .

> . people judge based on personality rather than clothing. You'll

> tend to

> strive to become more of an individual.

>

> Your granddaughter already has the capitalism mindset right. . . work

> hard, pay for what you want - if you want to wear denim, you can pay

> extra for

> the right.

>

> The poor kids that can't afford the $5 aren't allowed to wear denim to

> school. Work hard to get what we want . . . just the exact post I

> started out

> with!

>

> Jan ;-)

>

> PS. Truly, if you look at the history of the world, socialism just

> doesn't

> work. Never has. It breeds tyranical governments and limits

> individuality.

> Think it works? - ask people from China, Venezuala, Cuba or Russia

> why they

> want to come to the US. Millions of veterans have died protecting our

> constitution so we wouldn't have to be socialists. But, that's what

> our

> current admin is trying to lead us into. Again, the heatlh care bill

> wasn't about

> health - it was about government control of the people. (Talk to an

> informed vet if you want more details.)

>

> In a message dated 4/5/2010 12:46:19 P.M. Mountain Daylight Time,

> mffrd10019@... writes:

>

> Diane,

>

> I read that you have taught your children the importance of being

> responsible citizens. I taught mine and am very pleased to see my

> grandchildren

> being given the same messages. My 14 year old granddaughter just

> made a

> proposal to the Headmaster of her school to allow the students to

> wear denim one

> day (they wear uniforms) and charge $5 for this privilege with the

> money

> collected going to help the victims of the earthquake in Haiti. The

> Headmaster responded that although he was against wearing denim in

> school he was so

> impressed with her proposal he had to agree. 120 students raised over

> $600.

> Gratefully there are future generations who will be at the front of

> the

> line teaching values and responsiblity to those whose parents were

> from the

> 'me' instant gratification generation and did not have the ability

> to teach

> their children what you have taught yours.

>

> Madalyn

>

> Jan Patenaude, RD, CLT

> Consultant, Writer, Speaker

> Director of Medical Nutrition

> Signet Diagnostic Corporation

> (Mountain Time)

> Fax:

> DineRight4@...

>

> " Though no one can go back and make a brand new start, anyone can

> start

> from now and make a brand new ending. "

> ~Carl Bard

>

>

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Jan,

I'm an informed vet and honestly don't have a clue what you mean.

There are also many reasons that schools would want kids to wear

uniforms. One of them might be similar to the reason that the armed

forces and many of our public servant groups wear uniforms. Organized

team sports wear uniforms.

To be honest, I'd love for public schools to go to uniforms. When

visiting countries that do have school uniforms, I have to say, it's

quite fun to talk to kids about their school colors and attire. The

parents love it. Fewer clothes to purchase.

I'm sure you fear socialism, and maybe rightly so. What I don't

understand is why otherwise intelligent individuals equate appropriate

healthcare for all with a form of government. Perhaps you can point me

to the exact spot in the legislation where there is wording that says

" Guess what folks, we're all gonna be socialists now " .

I'm not one to favor fear mongering and much prefer to deal with the

facts and have a debate based on those facts.

Have a lovely evening.

Pam Charney

pcharney@...

> A question about your granddaughter--is a " headmaster " the principal

> of a private school?

>

> Diane

> Re: Why socialism won't work -Healthcare bill

> comments -can't resist

>

> Okay, can't resist. . . ;-)

>

> Aren't uniforms about equalizing all the kids - those that can't

> afford

> expensive clothing aren't set apart from those that can. . . a nice

> socialist

> thing. . . equalize all the students/citizenship by requiring

> uniforms . .

> . people judge based on personality rather than clothing. You'll

> tend to

> strive to become more of an individual.

>

> Your granddaughter already has the capitalism mindset right. . . work

> hard, pay for what you want - if you want to wear denim, you can pay

> extra for

> the right.

>

> The poor kids that can't afford the $5 aren't allowed to wear denim to

> school. Work hard to get what we want . . . just the exact post I

> started out

> with!

>

> Jan ;-)

>

> PS. Truly, if you look at the history of the world, socialism just

> doesn't

> work. Never has. It breeds tyranical governments and limits

> individuality.

> Think it works? - ask people from China, Venezuala, Cuba or Russia

> why they

> want to come to the US. Millions of veterans have died protecting our

> constitution so we wouldn't have to be socialists. But, that's what

> our

> current admin is trying to lead us into. Again, the heatlh care bill

> wasn't about

> health - it was about government control of the people. (Talk to an

> informed vet if you want more details.)

>

> In a message dated 4/5/2010 12:46:19 P.M. Mountain Daylight Time,

> mffrd10019@... writes:

>

> Diane,

>

> I read that you have taught your children the importance of being

> responsible citizens. I taught mine and am very pleased to see my

> grandchildren

> being given the same messages. My 14 year old granddaughter just

> made a

> proposal to the Headmaster of her school to allow the students to

> wear denim one

> day (they wear uniforms) and charge $5 for this privilege with the

> money

> collected going to help the victims of the earthquake in Haiti. The

> Headmaster responded that although he was against wearing denim in

> school he was so

> impressed with her proposal he had to agree. 120 students raised over

> $600.

> Gratefully there are future generations who will be at the front of

> the

> line teaching values and responsiblity to those whose parents were

> from the

> 'me' instant gratification generation and did not have the ability

> to teach

> their children what you have taught yours.

>

> Madalyn

>

> Jan Patenaude, RD, CLT

> Consultant, Writer, Speaker

> Director of Medical Nutrition

> Signet Diagnostic Corporation

> (Mountain Time)

> Fax:

> DineRight4@...

>

> " Though no one can go back and make a brand new start, anyone can

> start

> from now and make a brand new ending. "

> ~Carl Bard

>

>

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Truly my 2 cents on uniforms. Attended public schools throughout and 1 of my 2

kids is in public (other in private right now) and I just had a school uniform

discussion with a mom friend of mine last week. I remember as a child, I wanted

school uniforms in the worst way. Our family had " enough " money, but my parents

didn't care to keep up with the ' latest brands (which hello, as an adult,

I do now get!) so we had a very limited clothing budget to spend each year. The

rest of the cash was up to us (the kids). I remember distinctly, wishing I had a

uniform so my parents (would likely) purchase that for me and all my limited

clothing needs could be on fun items I wanted, instead of trying to stock a full

closet of clothes I liked.

Wish it for my kids too. Would keep the focus on the material and less on the

other things in the enviornment (what he/she is wearing, etc). And again, could

wear whatever you want outside of school!

As for the healthcare debate, I'll leave that part all to you :)

Kerry Regnier, MPH, RD, LDN

Batavia, IL

________________________________

To: rd-usa

Sent: Mon, April 5, 2010 7:58:34 PM

Subject: Re: Why socialism won't work -Healthcare bill comments -can't

resist

Jan,

I'm an informed vet and honestly don't have a clue what you mean.

There are also many reasons that schools would want kids to wear 

uniforms. One of them might be similar to the reason that the armed 

forces and many of our public servant groups wear uniforms. Organized 

team sports wear uniforms.

To be honest, I'd love for public schools to go to uniforms. When 

visiting countries that do have school uniforms, I have to say, it's 

quite fun to talk to kids about their school colors and attire. The 

parents love it. Fewer clothes to purchase.

I'm sure you fear socialism, and maybe rightly so. What I don't 

understand is why otherwise intelligent individuals equate appropriate 

healthcare for all with a form of government. Perhaps you can point me 

to the exact spot in the legislation where there is wording that says 

" Guess what folks, we're all gonna be socialists now " .

I'm not one to favor fear mongering and much prefer to deal with the 

facts and have a debate based on those facts.

Have a lovely evening.

Pam Charney

pcharney@...

> A question about your granddaughter--is a " headmaster " the principal 

> of a private school?

>

> Diane

> Re: Why socialism won't work -Healthcare bill 

> comments -can't resist

>

> Okay, can't resist. . . ;-)

>

> Aren't uniforms about equalizing all the kids - those that can't 

> afford

> expensive clothing aren't set apart from those that can. . . a nice 

> socialist

> thing. . . equalize all the students/citizenship by requiring 

> uniforms . .

> . people judge based on personality rather than clothing. You'll 

> tend to

> strive to become more of an individual.

>

> Your granddaughter already has the capitalism mindset right. . . work

> hard, pay for what you want - if you want to wear denim, you can pay 

> extra for

> the right.

>

> The poor kids that can't afford the $5 aren't allowed to wear denim to

> school. Work hard to get what we want . . . just the exact post I 

> started out

> with!

>

> Jan ;-)

>

> PS. Truly, if you look at the history of the world, socialism just 

> doesn't

> work. Never has. It breeds tyranical governments and limits 

> individuality.

> Think it works? - ask people from China, Venezuala, Cuba or Russia 

> why they

> want to come to the US. Millions of veterans have died protecting our

> constitution so we wouldn't have to be socialists. But, that's what 

> our

> current admin is trying to lead us into. Again, the heatlh care bill 

> wasn't about

> health - it was about government control of the people. (Talk to an

> informed vet if you want more details.)

>

> In a message dated 4/5/2010 12:46:19 P.M. Mountain Daylight Time,

> mffrd10019@... writes:

>

> Diane,

>

> I read that you have taught your children the importance of being

> responsible citizens. I taught mine and am very pleased to see my 

> grandchildren

> being given the same messages. My 14 year old granddaughter just 

> made a

> proposal to the Headmaster of her school to allow the students to 

> wear denim one

> day (they wear uniforms) and charge $5 for this privilege with the 

> money

> collected going to help the victims of the earthquake in Haiti. The

> Headmaster responded that although he was against wearing denim in 

> school he was so

> impressed with her proposal he had to agree. 120 students raised over

> $600.

> Gratefully there are future generations who will be at the front of 

> the

> line teaching values and responsiblity to those whose parents were 

> from the

> 'me' instant gratification generation and did not have the ability 

> to teach

> their children what you have taught yours.

>

> Madalyn

>

> Jan Patenaude, RD, CLT

> Consultant, Writer, Speaker

> Director of Medical Nutrition

> Signet Diagnostic Corporation

> (Mountain Time)

> Fax:

> DineRight4@...

>

> " Though no one can go back and make a brand new start, anyone can 

> start

> from now and make a brand new ending. "

> ~Carl Bard

>

>

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Truly my 2 cents on uniforms. Attended public schools throughout and 1 of my 2

kids is in public (other in private right now) and I just had a school uniform

discussion with a mom friend of mine last week. I remember as a child, I wanted

school uniforms in the worst way. Our family had " enough " money, but my parents

didn't care to keep up with the ' latest brands (which hello, as an adult,

I do now get!) so we had a very limited clothing budget to spend each year. The

rest of the cash was up to us (the kids). I remember distinctly, wishing I had a

uniform so my parents (would likely) purchase that for me and all my limited

clothing needs could be on fun items I wanted, instead of trying to stock a full

closet of clothes I liked.

Wish it for my kids too. Would keep the focus on the material and less on the

other things in the enviornment (what he/she is wearing, etc). And again, could

wear whatever you want outside of school!

As for the healthcare debate, I'll leave that part all to you :)

Kerry Regnier, MPH, RD, LDN

Batavia, IL

________________________________

To: rd-usa

Sent: Mon, April 5, 2010 7:58:34 PM

Subject: Re: Why socialism won't work -Healthcare bill comments -can't

resist

Jan,

I'm an informed vet and honestly don't have a clue what you mean.

There are also many reasons that schools would want kids to wear 

uniforms. One of them might be similar to the reason that the armed 

forces and many of our public servant groups wear uniforms. Organized 

team sports wear uniforms.

To be honest, I'd love for public schools to go to uniforms. When 

visiting countries that do have school uniforms, I have to say, it's 

quite fun to talk to kids about their school colors and attire. The 

parents love it. Fewer clothes to purchase.

I'm sure you fear socialism, and maybe rightly so. What I don't 

understand is why otherwise intelligent individuals equate appropriate 

healthcare for all with a form of government. Perhaps you can point me 

to the exact spot in the legislation where there is wording that says 

" Guess what folks, we're all gonna be socialists now " .

I'm not one to favor fear mongering and much prefer to deal with the 

facts and have a debate based on those facts.

Have a lovely evening.

Pam Charney

pcharney@...

> A question about your granddaughter--is a " headmaster " the principal 

> of a private school?

>

> Diane

> Re: Why socialism won't work -Healthcare bill 

> comments -can't resist

>

> Okay, can't resist. . . ;-)

>

> Aren't uniforms about equalizing all the kids - those that can't 

> afford

> expensive clothing aren't set apart from those that can. . . a nice 

> socialist

> thing. . . equalize all the students/citizenship by requiring 

> uniforms . .

> . people judge based on personality rather than clothing. You'll 

> tend to

> strive to become more of an individual.

>

> Your granddaughter already has the capitalism mindset right. . . work

> hard, pay for what you want - if you want to wear denim, you can pay 

> extra for

> the right.

>

> The poor kids that can't afford the $5 aren't allowed to wear denim to

> school. Work hard to get what we want . . . just the exact post I 

> started out

> with!

>

> Jan ;-)

>

> PS. Truly, if you look at the history of the world, socialism just 

> doesn't

> work. Never has. It breeds tyranical governments and limits 

> individuality.

> Think it works? - ask people from China, Venezuala, Cuba or Russia 

> why they

> want to come to the US. Millions of veterans have died protecting our

> constitution so we wouldn't have to be socialists. But, that's what 

> our

> current admin is trying to lead us into. Again, the heatlh care bill 

> wasn't about

> health - it was about government control of the people. (Talk to an

> informed vet if you want more details.)

>

> In a message dated 4/5/2010 12:46:19 P.M. Mountain Daylight Time,

> mffrd10019@... writes:

>

> Diane,

>

> I read that you have taught your children the importance of being

> responsible citizens. I taught mine and am very pleased to see my 

> grandchildren

> being given the same messages. My 14 year old granddaughter just 

> made a

> proposal to the Headmaster of her school to allow the students to 

> wear denim one

> day (they wear uniforms) and charge $5 for this privilege with the 

> money

> collected going to help the victims of the earthquake in Haiti. The

> Headmaster responded that although he was against wearing denim in 

> school he was so

> impressed with her proposal he had to agree. 120 students raised over

> $600.

> Gratefully there are future generations who will be at the front of 

> the

> line teaching values and responsiblity to those whose parents were 

> from the

> 'me' instant gratification generation and did not have the ability 

> to teach

> their children what you have taught yours.

>

> Madalyn

>

> Jan Patenaude, RD, CLT

> Consultant, Writer, Speaker

> Director of Medical Nutrition

> Signet Diagnostic Corporation

> (Mountain Time)

> Fax:

> DineRight4@...

>

> " Though no one can go back and make a brand new start, anyone can 

> start

> from now and make a brand new ending. "

> ~Carl Bard

>

>

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Truly my 2 cents on uniforms. Attended public schools throughout and 1 of my 2

kids is in public (other in private right now) and I just had a school uniform

discussion with a mom friend of mine last week. I remember as a child, I wanted

school uniforms in the worst way. Our family had " enough " money, but my parents

didn't care to keep up with the ' latest brands (which hello, as an adult,

I do now get!) so we had a very limited clothing budget to spend each year. The

rest of the cash was up to us (the kids). I remember distinctly, wishing I had a

uniform so my parents (would likely) purchase that for me and all my limited

clothing needs could be on fun items I wanted, instead of trying to stock a full

closet of clothes I liked.

Wish it for my kids too. Would keep the focus on the material and less on the

other things in the enviornment (what he/she is wearing, etc). And again, could

wear whatever you want outside of school!

As for the healthcare debate, I'll leave that part all to you :)

Kerry Regnier, MPH, RD, LDN

Batavia, IL

________________________________

To: rd-usa

Sent: Mon, April 5, 2010 7:58:34 PM

Subject: Re: Why socialism won't work -Healthcare bill comments -can't

resist

Jan,

I'm an informed vet and honestly don't have a clue what you mean.

There are also many reasons that schools would want kids to wear 

uniforms. One of them might be similar to the reason that the armed 

forces and many of our public servant groups wear uniforms. Organized 

team sports wear uniforms.

To be honest, I'd love for public schools to go to uniforms. When 

visiting countries that do have school uniforms, I have to say, it's 

quite fun to talk to kids about their school colors and attire. The 

parents love it. Fewer clothes to purchase.

I'm sure you fear socialism, and maybe rightly so. What I don't 

understand is why otherwise intelligent individuals equate appropriate 

healthcare for all with a form of government. Perhaps you can point me 

to the exact spot in the legislation where there is wording that says 

" Guess what folks, we're all gonna be socialists now " .

I'm not one to favor fear mongering and much prefer to deal with the 

facts and have a debate based on those facts.

Have a lovely evening.

Pam Charney

pcharney@...

> A question about your granddaughter--is a " headmaster " the principal 

> of a private school?

>

> Diane

> Re: Why socialism won't work -Healthcare bill 

> comments -can't resist

>

> Okay, can't resist. . . ;-)

>

> Aren't uniforms about equalizing all the kids - those that can't 

> afford

> expensive clothing aren't set apart from those that can. . . a nice 

> socialist

> thing. . . equalize all the students/citizenship by requiring 

> uniforms . .

> . people judge based on personality rather than clothing. You'll 

> tend to

> strive to become more of an individual.

>

> Your granddaughter already has the capitalism mindset right. . . work

> hard, pay for what you want - if you want to wear denim, you can pay 

> extra for

> the right.

>

> The poor kids that can't afford the $5 aren't allowed to wear denim to

> school. Work hard to get what we want . . . just the exact post I 

> started out

> with!

>

> Jan ;-)

>

> PS. Truly, if you look at the history of the world, socialism just 

> doesn't

> work. Never has. It breeds tyranical governments and limits 

> individuality.

> Think it works? - ask people from China, Venezuala, Cuba or Russia 

> why they

> want to come to the US. Millions of veterans have died protecting our

> constitution so we wouldn't have to be socialists. But, that's what 

> our

> current admin is trying to lead us into. Again, the heatlh care bill 

> wasn't about

> health - it was about government control of the people. (Talk to an

> informed vet if you want more details.)

>

> In a message dated 4/5/2010 12:46:19 P.M. Mountain Daylight Time,

> mffrd10019@... writes:

>

> Diane,

>

> I read that you have taught your children the importance of being

> responsible citizens. I taught mine and am very pleased to see my 

> grandchildren

> being given the same messages. My 14 year old granddaughter just 

> made a

> proposal to the Headmaster of her school to allow the students to 

> wear denim one

> day (they wear uniforms) and charge $5 for this privilege with the 

> money

> collected going to help the victims of the earthquake in Haiti. The

> Headmaster responded that although he was against wearing denim in 

> school he was so

> impressed with her proposal he had to agree. 120 students raised over

> $600.

> Gratefully there are future generations who will be at the front of 

> the

> line teaching values and responsiblity to those whose parents were 

> from the

> 'me' instant gratification generation and did not have the ability 

> to teach

> their children what you have taught yours.

>

> Madalyn

>

> Jan Patenaude, RD, CLT

> Consultant, Writer, Speaker

> Director of Medical Nutrition

> Signet Diagnostic Corporation

> (Mountain Time)

> Fax:

> DineRight4@...

>

> " Though no one can go back and make a brand new start, anyone can 

> start

> from now and make a brand new ending. "

> ~Carl Bard

>

>

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Using your example, I would say..... most people would want the poor kids to

be able to wear denim too, so to make that happen, people would contribute

to cover the poor... ie - Medicaid.

On Mon, Apr 5, 2010 at 9:30 PM, KERRY REGNIER wrote:

>

>

> Truly my 2 cents on uniforms. Attended public schools throughout and 1 of

> my 2 kids is in public (other in private right now) and I just had a school

> uniform discussion with a mom friend of mine last week. I remember as a

> child, I wanted school uniforms in the worst way. Our family had " enough "

> money, but my parents didn't care to keep up with the ' latest brands

> (which hello, as an adult, I do now get!) so we had a very limited clothing

> budget to spend each year. The rest of the cash was up to us (the kids). I

> remember distinctly, wishing I had a uniform so my parents (would likely)

> purchase that for me and all my limited clothing needs could be on fun items

> I wanted, instead of trying to stock a full closet of clothes I liked.

>

> Wish it for my kids too. Would keep the focus on the material and less on

> the other things in the enviornment (what he/she is wearing, etc). And

> again, could wear whatever you want outside of school!

>

> As for the healthcare debate, I'll leave that part all to you :)

>

> Kerry Regnier, MPH, RD, LDN

> Batavia, IL

>

> ________________________________

> From: Pam Charney <pcharney@... <pcharney%40mac.com>>

>

> To: rd-usa <rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com>

> Sent: Mon, April 5, 2010 7:58:34 PM

>

> Subject: Re: Why socialism won't work -Healthcare bill comments

> -can't resist

>

> Jan,

>

> I'm an informed vet and honestly don't have a clue what you mean.

>

> There are also many reasons that schools would want kids to wear

> uniforms. One of them might be similar to the reason that the armed

> forces and many of our public servant groups wear uniforms. Organized

> team sports wear uniforms.

>

> To be honest, I'd love for public schools to go to uniforms. When

> visiting countries that do have school uniforms, I have to say, it's

> quite fun to talk to kids about their school colors and attire. The

> parents love it. Fewer clothes to purchase.

>

> I'm sure you fear socialism, and maybe rightly so. What I don't

> understand is why otherwise intelligent individuals equate appropriate

> healthcare for all with a form of government. Perhaps you can point me

> to the exact spot in the legislation where there is wording that says

> " Guess what folks, we're all gonna be socialists now " .

>

> I'm not one to favor fear mongering and much prefer to deal with the

> facts and have a debate based on those facts.

>

> Have a lovely evening.

>

> Pam Charney

> pcharney@... <pcharney%40mac.com>

>

>

>

> > A question about your granddaughter--is a " headmaster " the principal

> > of a private school?

> >

> > Diane

> > Re: Why socialism won't work -Healthcare bill

> > comments -can't resist

> >

> > Okay, can't resist. . . ;-)

> >

> > Aren't uniforms about equalizing all the kids - those that can't

> > afford

> > expensive clothing aren't set apart from those that can. . . a nice

> > socialist

> > thing. . . equalize all the students/citizenship by requiring

> > uniforms . .

> > . people judge based on personality rather than clothing. You'll

> > tend to

> > strive to become more of an individual.

> >

> > Your granddaughter already has the capitalism mindset right. . . work

> > hard, pay for what you want - if you want to wear denim, you can pay

> > extra for

> > the right.

> >

> > The poor kids that can't afford the $5 aren't allowed to wear denim to

> > school. Work hard to get what we want . . . just the exact post I

> > started out

> > with!

> >

> > Jan ;-)

> >

> > PS. Truly, if you look at the history of the world, socialism just

> > doesn't

> > work. Never has. It breeds tyranical governments and limits

> > individuality.

> > Think it works? - ask people from China, Venezuala, Cuba or Russia

> > why they

> > want to come to the US. Millions of veterans have died protecting our

> > constitution so we wouldn't have to be socialists. But, that's what

> > our

> > current admin is trying to lead us into. Again, the heatlh care bill

> > wasn't about

> > health - it was about government control of the people. (Talk to an

> > informed vet if you want more details.)

> >

> > In a message dated 4/5/2010 12:46:19 P.M. Mountain Daylight Time,

> > mffrd10019@... <mffrd10019%40yahoo.com> writes:

> >

> > Diane,

> >

> > I read that you have taught your children the importance of being

> > responsible citizens. I taught mine and am very pleased to see my

> > grandchildren

> > being given the same messages. My 14 year old granddaughter just

> > made a

> > proposal to the Headmaster of her school to allow the students to

> > wear denim one

> > day (they wear uniforms) and charge $5 for this privilege with the

> > money

> > collected going to help the victims of the earthquake in Haiti. The

> > Headmaster responded that although he was against wearing denim in

> > school he was so

> > impressed with her proposal he had to agree. 120 students raised over

> > $600.

> > Gratefully there are future generations who will be at the front of

> > the

> > line teaching values and responsiblity to those whose parents were

> > from the

> > 'me' instant gratification generation and did not have the ability

> > to teach

> > their children what you have taught yours.

> >

> > Madalyn

> >

> > Jan Patenaude, RD, CLT

> > Consultant, Writer, Speaker

> > Director of Medical Nutrition

> > Signet Diagnostic Corporation

> > (Mountain Time)

> > Fax:

> > DineRight4@... <DineRight4%40aol.com>

> >

> > " Though no one can go back and make a brand new start, anyone can

> > start

> > from now and make a brand new ending. "

> > ~Carl Bard

> >

> >

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Jan,

My granddaughter raised the money for OTHER people. The lower school proposed

wearing a hat for $1. This was approved and they also raised money for Haiti. Is

this capitalism? socialism? or just good citizenship?

The private school she and her siblings attend is based on Leadership Honor and

Courage. This is integrated into all classes.

Madalyn

________________________________

To: rd-usa

Sent: Mon, April 5, 2010 7:37:59 PM

Subject: Re: Why socialism won't work -Healthcare bill comments -can't

resist

 

Okay, can't resist. . . ;-)

Aren't uniforms about equalizing all the kids - those that can't afford

expensive clothing aren't set apart from those that can. . . a nice socialist

thing. . . equalize all the students/citizenshi p by requiring uniforms . .

.. people judge based on personality rather than clothing. You'll tend to

strive to become more of an individual.

Your granddaughter already has the capitalism mindset right. . . work

hard, pay for what you want - if you want to wear denim, you can pay extra for

the right.

The poor kids that can't afford the $5 aren't allowed to wear denim to

school. Work hard to get what we want . . . just the exact post I started out

with!

Jan ;-)

PS. Truly, if you look at the history of the world, socialism just doesn't

work. Never has. It breeds tyranical governments and limits individuality.

Think it works? - ask people from China, Venezuala, Cuba or Russia why they

want to come to the US. Millions of veterans have died protecting our

constitution so we wouldn't have to be socialists. But, that's what our

current admin is trying to lead us into. Again, the heatlh care bill wasn't

about

health - it was about government control of the people. (Talk to an

informed vet if you want more details.)

In a message dated 4/5/2010 12:46:19 P.M. Mountain Daylight Time,

mffrd10019yahoo (DOT) com writes:

Diane,

I read that you have taught your children the importance of being

responsible citizens. I taught mine and am very pleased to see my grandchildren

being given the same messages. My 14 year old granddaughter just made a

proposal to the Headmaster of her school to allow the students to wear denim one

day (they wear uniforms) and charge $5 for this privilege with the money

collected going to help the victims of the earthquake in Haiti. The

Headmaster responded that although he was against wearing denim in school he was

so

impressed with her proposal he had to agree. 120 students raised over

$600.

Gratefully there are future generations who will be at the front of the

line teaching values and responsiblity to those whose parents were from the

'me' instant gratification generation and did not have the ability to teach

their children what you have taught yours.

Madalyn

Jan Patenaude, RD, CLT

Consultant, Writer, Speaker

Director of Medical Nutrition

Signet Diagnostic Corporation

(Mountain Time)

Fax:

DineRight4aol (DOT) com

" Though no one can go back and make a brand new start, anyone can start

from now and make a brand new ending. "

~Carl Bard

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Jan,

My granddaughter raised the money for OTHER people. The lower school proposed

wearing a hat for $1. This was approved and they also raised money for Haiti. Is

this capitalism? socialism? or just good citizenship?

The private school she and her siblings attend is based on Leadership Honor and

Courage. This is integrated into all classes.

Madalyn

________________________________

To: rd-usa

Sent: Mon, April 5, 2010 7:37:59 PM

Subject: Re: Why socialism won't work -Healthcare bill comments -can't

resist

 

Okay, can't resist. . . ;-)

Aren't uniforms about equalizing all the kids - those that can't afford

expensive clothing aren't set apart from those that can. . . a nice socialist

thing. . . equalize all the students/citizenshi p by requiring uniforms . .

.. people judge based on personality rather than clothing. You'll tend to

strive to become more of an individual.

Your granddaughter already has the capitalism mindset right. . . work

hard, pay for what you want - if you want to wear denim, you can pay extra for

the right.

The poor kids that can't afford the $5 aren't allowed to wear denim to

school. Work hard to get what we want . . . just the exact post I started out

with!

Jan ;-)

PS. Truly, if you look at the history of the world, socialism just doesn't

work. Never has. It breeds tyranical governments and limits individuality.

Think it works? - ask people from China, Venezuala, Cuba or Russia why they

want to come to the US. Millions of veterans have died protecting our

constitution so we wouldn't have to be socialists. But, that's what our

current admin is trying to lead us into. Again, the heatlh care bill wasn't

about

health - it was about government control of the people. (Talk to an

informed vet if you want more details.)

In a message dated 4/5/2010 12:46:19 P.M. Mountain Daylight Time,

mffrd10019yahoo (DOT) com writes:

Diane,

I read that you have taught your children the importance of being

responsible citizens. I taught mine and am very pleased to see my grandchildren

being given the same messages. My 14 year old granddaughter just made a

proposal to the Headmaster of her school to allow the students to wear denim one

day (they wear uniforms) and charge $5 for this privilege with the money

collected going to help the victims of the earthquake in Haiti. The

Headmaster responded that although he was against wearing denim in school he was

so

impressed with her proposal he had to agree. 120 students raised over

$600.

Gratefully there are future generations who will be at the front of the

line teaching values and responsiblity to those whose parents were from the

'me' instant gratification generation and did not have the ability to teach

their children what you have taught yours.

Madalyn

Jan Patenaude, RD, CLT

Consultant, Writer, Speaker

Director of Medical Nutrition

Signet Diagnostic Corporation

(Mountain Time)

Fax:

DineRight4aol (DOT) com

" Though no one can go back and make a brand new start, anyone can start

from now and make a brand new ending. "

~Carl Bard

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________________________________

To: rd-usa

Sent: Mon, April 5, 2010 8:51:35 PM

Subject: Re: Why socialism won't work -Healthcare bill comments -can't

resist

 

A question about your granddaughter- -is a " headmaster " the principal of a

private school?

Diane

Re: Why socialism won't work -Healthcare bill comments -can't

resist

Okay, can't resist. . . ;-)

Aren't uniforms about equalizing all the kids - those that can't afford

expensive clothing aren't set apart from those that can. . . a nice socialist

thing. . . equalize all the students/citizenshi p by requiring uniforms . .

.. people judge based on personality rather than clothing. You'll tend to

strive to become more of an individual.

Your granddaughter already has the capitalism mindset right. . . work

hard, pay for what you want - if you want to wear denim, you can pay extra for

the right.

The poor kids that can't afford the $5 aren't allowed to wear denim to

school. Work hard to get what we want . . . just the exact post I started out

with!

Jan ;-)

PS. Truly, if you look at the history of the world, socialism just doesn't

work. Never has. It breeds tyranical governments and limits individuality.

Think it works? - ask people from China, Venezuala, Cuba or Russia why they

want to come to the US. Millions of veterans have died protecting our

constitution so we wouldn't have to be socialists. But, that's what our

current admin is trying to lead us into. Again, the heatlh care bill wasn't

about

health - it was about government control of the people. (Talk to an

informed vet if you want more details.)

In a message dated 4/5/2010 12:46:19 P.M. Mountain Daylight Time,

mffrd10019yahoo (DOT) com writes:

Diane,

I read that you have taught your children the importance of being

responsible citizens. I taught mine and am very pleased to see my grandchildren

being given the same messages. My 14 year old granddaughter just made a

proposal to the Headmaster of her school to allow the students to wear denim one

day (they wear uniforms) and charge $5 for this privilege with the money

collected going to help the victims of the earthquake in Haiti. The

Headmaster responded that although he was against wearing denim in school he was

so

impressed with her proposal he had to agree. 120 students raised over

$600.

Gratefully there are future generations who will be at the front of the

line teaching values and responsiblity to those whose parents were from the

'me' instant gratification generation and did not have the ability to teach

their children what you have taught yours.

Madalyn

Jan Patenaude, RD, CLT

Consultant, Writer, Speaker

Director of Medical Nutrition

Signet Diagnostic Corporation

(Mountain Time)

Fax:

DineRight4aol (DOT) com

" Though no one can go back and make a brand new start, anyone can start

from now and make a brand new ending. "

~Carl Bard

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________________________________

To: rd-usa

Sent: Mon, April 5, 2010 8:51:35 PM

Subject: Re: Why socialism won't work -Healthcare bill comments -can't

resist

 

A question about your granddaughter- -is a " headmaster " the principal of a

private school?

Diane

Re: Why socialism won't work -Healthcare bill comments -can't

resist

Okay, can't resist. . . ;-)

Aren't uniforms about equalizing all the kids - those that can't afford

expensive clothing aren't set apart from those that can. . . a nice socialist

thing. . . equalize all the students/citizenshi p by requiring uniforms . .

.. people judge based on personality rather than clothing. You'll tend to

strive to become more of an individual.

Your granddaughter already has the capitalism mindset right. . . work

hard, pay for what you want - if you want to wear denim, you can pay extra for

the right.

The poor kids that can't afford the $5 aren't allowed to wear denim to

school. Work hard to get what we want . . . just the exact post I started out

with!

Jan ;-)

PS. Truly, if you look at the history of the world, socialism just doesn't

work. Never has. It breeds tyranical governments and limits individuality.

Think it works? - ask people from China, Venezuala, Cuba or Russia why they

want to come to the US. Millions of veterans have died protecting our

constitution so we wouldn't have to be socialists. But, that's what our

current admin is trying to lead us into. Again, the heatlh care bill wasn't

about

health - it was about government control of the people. (Talk to an

informed vet if you want more details.)

In a message dated 4/5/2010 12:46:19 P.M. Mountain Daylight Time,

mffrd10019yahoo (DOT) com writes:

Diane,

I read that you have taught your children the importance of being

responsible citizens. I taught mine and am very pleased to see my grandchildren

being given the same messages. My 14 year old granddaughter just made a

proposal to the Headmaster of her school to allow the students to wear denim one

day (they wear uniforms) and charge $5 for this privilege with the money

collected going to help the victims of the earthquake in Haiti. The

Headmaster responded that although he was against wearing denim in school he was

so

impressed with her proposal he had to agree. 120 students raised over

$600.

Gratefully there are future generations who will be at the front of the

line teaching values and responsiblity to those whose parents were from the

'me' instant gratification generation and did not have the ability to teach

their children what you have taught yours.

Madalyn

Jan Patenaude, RD, CLT

Consultant, Writer, Speaker

Director of Medical Nutrition

Signet Diagnostic Corporation

(Mountain Time)

Fax:

DineRight4aol (DOT) com

" Though no one can go back and make a brand new start, anyone can start

from now and make a brand new ending. "

~Carl Bard

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Not sure how children who can afford private school contributing $5 for Haiti

relief (which was wonderful) with the reward to wear denim for the day (also

relief from wearing the uniform) relates to healthcare mandates and capitalism.

I do applaud your granddaughter's ingenuity--I love it when kids take

initiatives like that. However, the kids in a private school may be in a very

different economic situation than much of cash-strapped America who will not

have a choice whether or not to participate, as the students in your example

did. I wonder if the President would be as open to " relief from the mandate " as

the Headmaster was.

Respectfully,

Diane

Re: Why socialism won't work -Healthcare bill comments

-can't resist

Okay, can't resist. . . ;-)

Aren't uniforms about equalizing all the kids - those that can't afford

expensive clothing aren't set apart from those that can. . . a nice socialist

thing. . . equalize all the students/citizenshi p by requiring uniforms . .

. people judge based on personality rather than clothing. You'll tend to

strive to become more of an individual.

Your granddaughter already has the capitalism mindset right. . . work

hard, pay for what you want - if you want to wear denim, you can pay extra for

the right.

The poor kids that can't afford the $5 aren't allowed to wear denim to

school. Work hard to get what we want . . . just the exact post I started out

with!

Jan ;-)

PS. Truly, if you look at the history of the world, socialism just doesn't

work. Never has. It breeds tyranical governments and limits individuality.

Think it works? - ask people from China, Venezuala, Cuba or Russia why they

want to come to the US. Millions of veterans have died protecting our

constitution so we wouldn't have to be socialists. But, that's what our

current admin is trying to lead us into. Again, the heatlh care bill wasn't

about

health - it was about government control of the people. (Talk to an

informed vet if you want more details.)

In a message dated 4/5/2010 12:46:19 P.M. Mountain Daylight Time,

mffrd10019yahoo (DOT) com writes:

Diane,

I read that you have taught your children the importance of being

responsible citizens. I taught mine and am very pleased to see my

grandchildren

being given the same messages. My 14 year old granddaughter just made a

proposal to the Headmaster of her school to allow the students to wear denim

one

day (they wear uniforms) and charge $5 for this privilege with the money

collected going to help the victims of the earthquake in Haiti. The

Headmaster responded that although he was against wearing denim in school he

was so

impressed with her proposal he had to agree. 120 students raised over

$600.

Gratefully there are future generations who will be at the front of the

line teaching values and responsiblity to those whose parents were from the

'me' instant gratification generation and did not have the ability to teach

their children what you have taught yours.

Madalyn

Jan Patenaude, RD, CLT

Consultant, Writer, Speaker

Director of Medical Nutrition

Signet Diagnostic Corporation

(Mountain Time)

Fax:

DineRight4aol (DOT) com

" Though no one can go back and make a brand new start, anyone can start

from now and make a brand new ending. "

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Not sure how children who can afford private school contributing $5 for Haiti

relief (which was wonderful) with the reward to wear denim for the day (also

relief from wearing the uniform) relates to healthcare mandates and capitalism.

I do applaud your granddaughter's ingenuity--I love it when kids take

initiatives like that. However, the kids in a private school may be in a very

different economic situation than much of cash-strapped America who will not

have a choice whether or not to participate, as the students in your example

did. I wonder if the President would be as open to " relief from the mandate " as

the Headmaster was.

Respectfully,

Diane

Re: Why socialism won't work -Healthcare bill comments

-can't resist

Okay, can't resist. . . ;-)

Aren't uniforms about equalizing all the kids - those that can't afford

expensive clothing aren't set apart from those that can. . . a nice socialist

thing. . . equalize all the students/citizenshi p by requiring uniforms . .

. people judge based on personality rather than clothing. You'll tend to

strive to become more of an individual.

Your granddaughter already has the capitalism mindset right. . . work

hard, pay for what you want - if you want to wear denim, you can pay extra for

the right.

The poor kids that can't afford the $5 aren't allowed to wear denim to

school. Work hard to get what we want . . . just the exact post I started out

with!

Jan ;-)

PS. Truly, if you look at the history of the world, socialism just doesn't

work. Never has. It breeds tyranical governments and limits individuality.

Think it works? - ask people from China, Venezuala, Cuba or Russia why they

want to come to the US. Millions of veterans have died protecting our

constitution so we wouldn't have to be socialists. But, that's what our

current admin is trying to lead us into. Again, the heatlh care bill wasn't

about

health - it was about government control of the people. (Talk to an

informed vet if you want more details.)

In a message dated 4/5/2010 12:46:19 P.M. Mountain Daylight Time,

mffrd10019yahoo (DOT) com writes:

Diane,

I read that you have taught your children the importance of being

responsible citizens. I taught mine and am very pleased to see my

grandchildren

being given the same messages. My 14 year old granddaughter just made a

proposal to the Headmaster of her school to allow the students to wear denim

one

day (they wear uniforms) and charge $5 for this privilege with the money

collected going to help the victims of the earthquake in Haiti. The

Headmaster responded that although he was against wearing denim in school he

was so

impressed with her proposal he had to agree. 120 students raised over

$600.

Gratefully there are future generations who will be at the front of the

line teaching values and responsiblity to those whose parents were from the

'me' instant gratification generation and did not have the ability to teach

their children what you have taught yours.

Madalyn

Jan Patenaude, RD, CLT

Consultant, Writer, Speaker

Director of Medical Nutrition

Signet Diagnostic Corporation

(Mountain Time)

Fax:

DineRight4aol (DOT) com

" Though no one can go back and make a brand new start, anyone can start

from now and make a brand new ending. "

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My grandchildren are private pay at their private schools. There are many

children there who receive scholarships and live in less affluent areas, so the

population is not at all one sided.

I believe there is a correlation between what my granddaughter did and the

healthcare reform bill. She internalized the message that we have a

responsibility for those less fortunate than we are. That she may have to be

taxed so that others can have what she has. Granted, her project was voluntary

and taxation is not, but she is learning - the school is founded on these

principles LEADERSHIP HONOR AND COURAGE.

________________________________

To: rd-usa

Sent: Tue, April 6, 2010 3:39:25 PM

Subject: Re: Why socialism won't work -Healthcare bill comments -can't

resist

Not sure how children who can afford private school contributing $5 for Haiti

relief (which was wonderful) with the reward to wear denim for the day (also

relief from wearing the uniform) relates to healthcare mandates and capitalism.

I do applaud your granddaughter' s ingenuity--I love it when kids take

initiatives like that. However, the kids in a private school may be in a very

different economic situation than much of cash-strapped America who will not

have a choice whether or not to participate, as the students in your example

did. I wonder if the President would be as open to " relief from the mandate " as

the Headmaster was.

Respectfully,

Diane

Re: Why socialism won't work -Healthcare bill comments -can't

resist

Okay, can't resist. . . ;-)

Aren't uniforms about equalizing all the kids - those that can't afford

expensive clothing aren't set apart from those that can. . . a nice socialist

thing. . . equalize all the students/citizenshi p by requiring uniforms . .

.. people judge based on personality rather than clothing. You'll tend to

strive to become more of an individual.

Your granddaughter already has the capitalism mindset right. . . work

hard, pay for what you want - if you want to wear denim, you can pay extra for

the right.

The poor kids that can't afford the $5 aren't allowed to wear denim to

school. Work hard to get what we want . . . just the exact post I started out

with!

Jan ;-)

PS. Truly, if you look at the history of the world, socialism just doesn't

work. Never has. It breeds tyranical governments and limits individuality.

Think it works? - ask people from China, Venezuala, Cuba or Russia why they

want to come to the US. Millions of veterans have died protecting our

constitution so we wouldn't have to be socialists. But, that's what our

current admin is trying to lead us into. Again, the heatlh care bill wasn't

about

health - it was about government control of the people. (Talk to an

informed vet if you want more details.)

In a message dated 4/5/2010 12:46:19 P.M. Mountain Daylight Time,

mffrd10019yahoo (DOT) com writes:

Diane,

I read that you have taught your children the importance of being

responsible citizens. I taught mine and am very pleased to see my grandchildren

being given the same messages. My 14 year old granddaughter just made a

proposal to the Headmaster of her school to allow the students to wear denim one

day (they wear uniforms) and charge $5 for this privilege with the money

collected going to help the victims of the earthquake in Haiti. The

Headmaster responded that although he was against wearing denim in school he was

so

impressed with her proposal he had to agree. 120 students raised over

$600.

Gratefully there are future generations who will be at the front of the

line teaching values and responsiblity to those whose parents were from the

'me' instant gratification generation and did not have the ability to teach

their children what you have taught yours.

Madalyn

Jan Patenaude, RD, CLT

Consultant, Writer, Speaker

Director of Medical Nutrition

Signet Diagnostic Corporation

(Mountain Time)

Fax:

DineRight4aol (DOT) com

" Though no one can go back and make a brand new start, anyone can start

from now and make a brand new ending. "

~Carl Bard

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My grandchildren are private pay at their private schools. There are many

children there who receive scholarships and live in less affluent areas, so the

population is not at all one sided.

I believe there is a correlation between what my granddaughter did and the

healthcare reform bill. She internalized the message that we have a

responsibility for those less fortunate than we are. That she may have to be

taxed so that others can have what she has. Granted, her project was voluntary

and taxation is not, but she is learning - the school is founded on these

principles LEADERSHIP HONOR AND COURAGE.

________________________________

To: rd-usa

Sent: Tue, April 6, 2010 3:39:25 PM

Subject: Re: Why socialism won't work -Healthcare bill comments -can't

resist

Not sure how children who can afford private school contributing $5 for Haiti

relief (which was wonderful) with the reward to wear denim for the day (also

relief from wearing the uniform) relates to healthcare mandates and capitalism.

I do applaud your granddaughter' s ingenuity--I love it when kids take

initiatives like that. However, the kids in a private school may be in a very

different economic situation than much of cash-strapped America who will not

have a choice whether or not to participate, as the students in your example

did. I wonder if the President would be as open to " relief from the mandate " as

the Headmaster was.

Respectfully,

Diane

Re: Why socialism won't work -Healthcare bill comments -can't

resist

Okay, can't resist. . . ;-)

Aren't uniforms about equalizing all the kids - those that can't afford

expensive clothing aren't set apart from those that can. . . a nice socialist

thing. . . equalize all the students/citizenshi p by requiring uniforms . .

.. people judge based on personality rather than clothing. You'll tend to

strive to become more of an individual.

Your granddaughter already has the capitalism mindset right. . . work

hard, pay for what you want - if you want to wear denim, you can pay extra for

the right.

The poor kids that can't afford the $5 aren't allowed to wear denim to

school. Work hard to get what we want . . . just the exact post I started out

with!

Jan ;-)

PS. Truly, if you look at the history of the world, socialism just doesn't

work. Never has. It breeds tyranical governments and limits individuality.

Think it works? - ask people from China, Venezuala, Cuba or Russia why they

want to come to the US. Millions of veterans have died protecting our

constitution so we wouldn't have to be socialists. But, that's what our

current admin is trying to lead us into. Again, the heatlh care bill wasn't

about

health - it was about government control of the people. (Talk to an

informed vet if you want more details.)

In a message dated 4/5/2010 12:46:19 P.M. Mountain Daylight Time,

mffrd10019yahoo (DOT) com writes:

Diane,

I read that you have taught your children the importance of being

responsible citizens. I taught mine and am very pleased to see my grandchildren

being given the same messages. My 14 year old granddaughter just made a

proposal to the Headmaster of her school to allow the students to wear denim one

day (they wear uniforms) and charge $5 for this privilege with the money

collected going to help the victims of the earthquake in Haiti. The

Headmaster responded that although he was against wearing denim in school he was

so

impressed with her proposal he had to agree. 120 students raised over

$600.

Gratefully there are future generations who will be at the front of the

line teaching values and responsiblity to those whose parents were from the

'me' instant gratification generation and did not have the ability to teach

their children what you have taught yours.

Madalyn

Jan Patenaude, RD, CLT

Consultant, Writer, Speaker

Director of Medical Nutrition

Signet Diagnostic Corporation

(Mountain Time)

Fax:

DineRight4aol (DOT) com

" Though no one can go back and make a brand new start, anyone can start

from now and make a brand new ending. "

~Carl Bard

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My grandchildren are private pay at their private schools. There are many

children there who receive scholarships and live in less affluent areas, so the

population is not at all one sided.

I believe there is a correlation between what my granddaughter did and the

healthcare reform bill. She internalized the message that we have a

responsibility for those less fortunate than we are. That she may have to be

taxed so that others can have what she has. Granted, her project was voluntary

and taxation is not, but she is learning - the school is founded on these

principles LEADERSHIP HONOR AND COURAGE.

________________________________

To: rd-usa

Sent: Tue, April 6, 2010 3:39:25 PM

Subject: Re: Why socialism won't work -Healthcare bill comments -can't

resist

Not sure how children who can afford private school contributing $5 for Haiti

relief (which was wonderful) with the reward to wear denim for the day (also

relief from wearing the uniform) relates to healthcare mandates and capitalism.

I do applaud your granddaughter' s ingenuity--I love it when kids take

initiatives like that. However, the kids in a private school may be in a very

different economic situation than much of cash-strapped America who will not

have a choice whether or not to participate, as the students in your example

did. I wonder if the President would be as open to " relief from the mandate " as

the Headmaster was.

Respectfully,

Diane

Re: Why socialism won't work -Healthcare bill comments -can't

resist

Okay, can't resist. . . ;-)

Aren't uniforms about equalizing all the kids - those that can't afford

expensive clothing aren't set apart from those that can. . . a nice socialist

thing. . . equalize all the students/citizenshi p by requiring uniforms . .

.. people judge based on personality rather than clothing. You'll tend to

strive to become more of an individual.

Your granddaughter already has the capitalism mindset right. . . work

hard, pay for what you want - if you want to wear denim, you can pay extra for

the right.

The poor kids that can't afford the $5 aren't allowed to wear denim to

school. Work hard to get what we want . . . just the exact post I started out

with!

Jan ;-)

PS. Truly, if you look at the history of the world, socialism just doesn't

work. Never has. It breeds tyranical governments and limits individuality.

Think it works? - ask people from China, Venezuala, Cuba or Russia why they

want to come to the US. Millions of veterans have died protecting our

constitution so we wouldn't have to be socialists. But, that's what our

current admin is trying to lead us into. Again, the heatlh care bill wasn't

about

health - it was about government control of the people. (Talk to an

informed vet if you want more details.)

In a message dated 4/5/2010 12:46:19 P.M. Mountain Daylight Time,

mffrd10019yahoo (DOT) com writes:

Diane,

I read that you have taught your children the importance of being

responsible citizens. I taught mine and am very pleased to see my grandchildren

being given the same messages. My 14 year old granddaughter just made a

proposal to the Headmaster of her school to allow the students to wear denim one

day (they wear uniforms) and charge $5 for this privilege with the money

collected going to help the victims of the earthquake in Haiti. The

Headmaster responded that although he was against wearing denim in school he was

so

impressed with her proposal he had to agree. 120 students raised over

$600.

Gratefully there are future generations who will be at the front of the

line teaching values and responsiblity to those whose parents were from the

'me' instant gratification generation and did not have the ability to teach

their children what you have taught yours.

Madalyn

Jan Patenaude, RD, CLT

Consultant, Writer, Speaker

Director of Medical Nutrition

Signet Diagnostic Corporation

(Mountain Time)

Fax:

DineRight4aol (DOT) com

" Though no one can go back and make a brand new start, anyone can start

from now and make a brand new ending. "

~Carl Bard

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I have a great article on the Cost Conundrum of the Health Care Industry.

Very interesting read if anyone is interested.

Please email me at tpiattoly@...

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>

>

> Okay, can't resist. . . ;-)

>

> Aren't uniforms about equalizing all the kids - those that can't afford

> expensive clothing aren't set apart from those that can. . . a nice

> socialist

> thing. . . equalize all the students/citizenship by requiring uniforms . .

> . people judge based on personality rather than clothing. You'll tend to

> strive to become more of an individual.

>

> Your granddaughter already has the capitalism mindset right. . . work

> hard, pay for what you want - if you want to wear denim, you can pay extra

> for

> the right.

>

> The poor kids that can't afford the $5 aren't allowed to wear denim to

> school. Work hard to get what we want . . . just the exact post I started

> out

> with!

>

> Jan ;-)

>

> PS. Truly, if you look at the history of the world, socialism just doesn't

> work. Never has. It breeds tyranical governments and limits individuality.

> Think it works? - ask people from China, Venezuala, Cuba or Russia why they

>

> want to come to the US. Millions of veterans have died protecting our

> constitution so we wouldn't have to be socialists. But, that's what our

> current admin is trying to lead us into. Again, the heatlh care bill wasn't

> about

> health - it was about government control of the people. (Talk to an

> informed vet if you want more details.)

>

>

>

> In a message dated 4/5/2010 12:46:19 P.M. Mountain Daylight Time,

> mffrd10019@... <mffrd10019%40yahoo.com> writes:

>

> Diane,

>

> I read that you have taught your children the importance of being

> responsible citizens. I taught mine and am very pleased to see my

> grandchildren

> being given the same messages. My 14 year old granddaughter just made a

> proposal to the Headmaster of her school to allow the students to wear

> denim one

> day (they wear uniforms) and charge $5 for this privilege with the money

> collected going to help the victims of the earthquake in Haiti. The

> Headmaster responded that although he was against wearing denim in school

> he was so

> impressed with her proposal he had to agree. 120 students raised over

> $600.

> Gratefully there are future generations who will be at the front of the

> line teaching values and responsiblity to those whose parents were from the

>

> 'me' instant gratification generation and did not have the ability to teach

>

> their children what you have taught yours.

>

> Madalyn

>

> Jan Patenaude, RD, CLT

> Consultant, Writer, Speaker

> Director of Medical Nutrition

> Signet Diagnostic Corporation

> (Mountain Time)

> Fax:

> DineRight4@... <DineRight4%40aol.com>

>

> " Though no one can go back and make a brand new start, anyone can start

> from now and make a brand new ending. "

> ~Carl Bard

>

>

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I have a great article on the Cost Conundrum of the Health Care Industry.

Very interesting read if anyone is interested.

Please email me at tpiattoly@...

Thanks

>

>

> Okay, can't resist. . . ;-)

>

> Aren't uniforms about equalizing all the kids - those that can't afford

> expensive clothing aren't set apart from those that can. . . a nice

> socialist

> thing. . . equalize all the students/citizenship by requiring uniforms . .

> . people judge based on personality rather than clothing. You'll tend to

> strive to become more of an individual.

>

> Your granddaughter already has the capitalism mindset right. . . work

> hard, pay for what you want - if you want to wear denim, you can pay extra

> for

> the right.

>

> The poor kids that can't afford the $5 aren't allowed to wear denim to

> school. Work hard to get what we want . . . just the exact post I started

> out

> with!

>

> Jan ;-)

>

> PS. Truly, if you look at the history of the world, socialism just doesn't

> work. Never has. It breeds tyranical governments and limits individuality.

> Think it works? - ask people from China, Venezuala, Cuba or Russia why they

>

> want to come to the US. Millions of veterans have died protecting our

> constitution so we wouldn't have to be socialists. But, that's what our

> current admin is trying to lead us into. Again, the heatlh care bill wasn't

> about

> health - it was about government control of the people. (Talk to an

> informed vet if you want more details.)

>

>

>

> In a message dated 4/5/2010 12:46:19 P.M. Mountain Daylight Time,

> mffrd10019@... <mffrd10019%40yahoo.com> writes:

>

> Diane,

>

> I read that you have taught your children the importance of being

> responsible citizens. I taught mine and am very pleased to see my

> grandchildren

> being given the same messages. My 14 year old granddaughter just made a

> proposal to the Headmaster of her school to allow the students to wear

> denim one

> day (they wear uniforms) and charge $5 for this privilege with the money

> collected going to help the victims of the earthquake in Haiti. The

> Headmaster responded that although he was against wearing denim in school

> he was so

> impressed with her proposal he had to agree. 120 students raised over

> $600.

> Gratefully there are future generations who will be at the front of the

> line teaching values and responsiblity to those whose parents were from the

>

> 'me' instant gratification generation and did not have the ability to teach

>

> their children what you have taught yours.

>

> Madalyn

>

> Jan Patenaude, RD, CLT

> Consultant, Writer, Speaker

> Director of Medical Nutrition

> Signet Diagnostic Corporation

> (Mountain Time)

> Fax:

> DineRight4@... <DineRight4%40aol.com>

>

> " Though no one can go back and make a brand new start, anyone can start

> from now and make a brand new ending. "

> ~Carl Bard

>

>

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I have a great article on the Cost Conundrum of the Health Care Industry.

Very interesting read if anyone is interested.

Please email me at tpiattoly@...

Thanks

>

>

> Okay, can't resist. . . ;-)

>

> Aren't uniforms about equalizing all the kids - those that can't afford

> expensive clothing aren't set apart from those that can. . . a nice

> socialist

> thing. . . equalize all the students/citizenship by requiring uniforms . .

> . people judge based on personality rather than clothing. You'll tend to

> strive to become more of an individual.

>

> Your granddaughter already has the capitalism mindset right. . . work

> hard, pay for what you want - if you want to wear denim, you can pay extra

> for

> the right.

>

> The poor kids that can't afford the $5 aren't allowed to wear denim to

> school. Work hard to get what we want . . . just the exact post I started

> out

> with!

>

> Jan ;-)

>

> PS. Truly, if you look at the history of the world, socialism just doesn't

> work. Never has. It breeds tyranical governments and limits individuality.

> Think it works? - ask people from China, Venezuala, Cuba or Russia why they

>

> want to come to the US. Millions of veterans have died protecting our

> constitution so we wouldn't have to be socialists. But, that's what our

> current admin is trying to lead us into. Again, the heatlh care bill wasn't

> about

> health - it was about government control of the people. (Talk to an

> informed vet if you want more details.)

>

>

>

> In a message dated 4/5/2010 12:46:19 P.M. Mountain Daylight Time,

> mffrd10019@... <mffrd10019%40yahoo.com> writes:

>

> Diane,

>

> I read that you have taught your children the importance of being

> responsible citizens. I taught mine and am very pleased to see my

> grandchildren

> being given the same messages. My 14 year old granddaughter just made a

> proposal to the Headmaster of her school to allow the students to wear

> denim one

> day (they wear uniforms) and charge $5 for this privilege with the money

> collected going to help the victims of the earthquake in Haiti. The

> Headmaster responded that although he was against wearing denim in school

> he was so

> impressed with her proposal he had to agree. 120 students raised over

> $600.

> Gratefully there are future generations who will be at the front of the

> line teaching values and responsiblity to those whose parents were from the

>

> 'me' instant gratification generation and did not have the ability to teach

>

> their children what you have taught yours.

>

> Madalyn

>

> Jan Patenaude, RD, CLT

> Consultant, Writer, Speaker

> Director of Medical Nutrition

> Signet Diagnostic Corporation

> (Mountain Time)

> Fax:

> DineRight4@... <DineRight4%40aol.com>

>

> " Though no one can go back and make a brand new start, anyone can start

> from now and make a brand new ending. "

> ~Carl Bard

>

>

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Plus not all is equal - don't you think as Dietitians you deserve a better

pay then someone who didn't even graduate from High School and their biggest

ambition is to say " Will you take fries with that? " . What motivation would

there be to work hard if I have to give all my extra money away. I am sure

we all give our money to a charity we feel is worthy of our money, not to

the Bernie Madoff Relief fund.

Working at WIC I see families working so hard to get ahead and need that

extra help and then I see those who have their hands out for ANOTHER

" handout " .

If someone is in dire straits - for example, unemployed not by choice, can't

pay unforeseen medical bills, or even by laziness, etc. why can't there be

community service they do for their aid? My friend was laid off (now has a

job) but she volunteered during her layoff. End of rant....

On Wed, Apr 7, 2010 at 10:05 AM, Madalyn Friedberg wrote:

>

>

> My grandchildren are private pay at their private schools. There are many

> children there who receive scholarships and live in less affluent areas, so

> the population is not at all one sided.

> I believe there is a correlation between what my granddaughter did and the

> healthcare reform bill. She internalized the message that we have a

> responsibility for those less fortunate than we are. That she may have to be

> taxed so that others can have what she has. Granted, her project was

> voluntary and taxation is not, but she is learning - the school is founded

> on these principles LEADERSHIP HONOR AND COURAGE.

>

> ________________________________

> From: " Diane Preves M.S., R.D. "

<newlife4health@...<newlife4health%40aol.com>

> >

>

> To: rd-usa <rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com>

> Sent: Tue, April 6, 2010 3:39:25 PM

>

> Subject: Re: Why socialism won't work -Healthcare bill comments

> -can't resist

>

> Not sure how children who can afford private school contributing $5 for

> Haiti relief (which was wonderful) with the reward to wear denim for the day

> (also relief from wearing the uniform) relates to healthcare mandates and

> capitalism. I do applaud your granddaughter' s ingenuity--I love it when

> kids take initiatives like that. However, the kids in a private school may

> be in a very different economic situation than much of cash-strapped America

> who will not have a choice whether or not to participate, as the students in

> your example did. I wonder if the President would be as open to " relief from

> the mandate " as the Headmaster was.

>

> Respectfully,

> Diane

>

>

> Re: Why socialism won't work -Healthcare bill comments

> -can't resist

>

> Okay, can't resist. . . ;-)

>

> Aren't uniforms about equalizing all the kids - those that can't afford

> expensive clothing aren't set apart from those that can. . . a nice

> socialist

> thing. . . equalize all the students/citizenshi p by requiring uniforms . .

>

> . people judge based on personality rather than clothing. You'll tend to

> strive to become more of an individual.

>

> Your granddaughter already has the capitalism mindset right. . . work

> hard, pay for what you want - if you want to wear denim, you can pay extra

> for

> the right.

>

> The poor kids that can't afford the $5 aren't allowed to wear denim to

> school. Work hard to get what we want . . . just the exact post I started

> out

> with!

>

> Jan ;-)

>

> PS. Truly, if you look at the history of the world, socialism just doesn't

> work. Never has. It breeds tyranical governments and limits individuality.

> Think it works? - ask people from China, Venezuala, Cuba or Russia why they

>

> want to come to the US. Millions of veterans have died protecting our

> constitution so we wouldn't have to be socialists. But, that's what our

> current admin is trying to lead us into. Again, the heatlh care bill wasn't

> about

> health - it was about government control of the people. (Talk to an

> informed vet if you want more details.)

>

> In a message dated 4/5/2010 12:46:19 P.M. Mountain Daylight Time,

> mffrd10019yahoo (DOT) com writes:

>

> Diane,

>

> I read that you have taught your children the importance of being

> responsible citizens. I taught mine and am very pleased to see my

> grandchildren

> being given the same messages. My 14 year old granddaughter just made a

> proposal to the Headmaster of her school to allow the students to wear

> denim one

> day (they wear uniforms) and charge $5 for this privilege with the money

> collected going to help the victims of the earthquake in Haiti. The

> Headmaster responded that although he was against wearing denim in school

> he was so

> impressed with her proposal he had to agree. 120 students raised over

> $600.

> Gratefully there are future generations who will be at the front of the

> line teaching values and responsiblity to those whose parents were from the

>

> 'me' instant gratification generation and did not have the ability to teach

>

> their children what you have taught yours.

>

> Madalyn

>

> Jan Patenaude, RD, CLT

> Consultant, Writer, Speaker

> Director of Medical Nutrition

> Signet Diagnostic Corporation

> (Mountain Time)

> Fax:

> DineRight4aol (DOT) com

>

> " Though no one can go back and make a brand new start, anyone can start

> from now and make a brand new ending. "

> ~Carl Bard

>

>

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Plus not all is equal - don't you think as Dietitians you deserve a better

pay then someone who didn't even graduate from High School and their biggest

ambition is to say " Will you take fries with that? " . What motivation would

there be to work hard if I have to give all my extra money away. I am sure

we all give our money to a charity we feel is worthy of our money, not to

the Bernie Madoff Relief fund.

Working at WIC I see families working so hard to get ahead and need that

extra help and then I see those who have their hands out for ANOTHER

" handout " .

If someone is in dire straits - for example, unemployed not by choice, can't

pay unforeseen medical bills, or even by laziness, etc. why can't there be

community service they do for their aid? My friend was laid off (now has a

job) but she volunteered during her layoff. End of rant....

On Wed, Apr 7, 2010 at 10:05 AM, Madalyn Friedberg wrote:

>

>

> My grandchildren are private pay at their private schools. There are many

> children there who receive scholarships and live in less affluent areas, so

> the population is not at all one sided.

> I believe there is a correlation between what my granddaughter did and the

> healthcare reform bill. She internalized the message that we have a

> responsibility for those less fortunate than we are. That she may have to be

> taxed so that others can have what she has. Granted, her project was

> voluntary and taxation is not, but she is learning - the school is founded

> on these principles LEADERSHIP HONOR AND COURAGE.

>

> ________________________________

> From: " Diane Preves M.S., R.D. "

<newlife4health@...<newlife4health%40aol.com>

> >

>

> To: rd-usa <rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com>

> Sent: Tue, April 6, 2010 3:39:25 PM

>

> Subject: Re: Why socialism won't work -Healthcare bill comments

> -can't resist

>

> Not sure how children who can afford private school contributing $5 for

> Haiti relief (which was wonderful) with the reward to wear denim for the day

> (also relief from wearing the uniform) relates to healthcare mandates and

> capitalism. I do applaud your granddaughter' s ingenuity--I love it when

> kids take initiatives like that. However, the kids in a private school may

> be in a very different economic situation than much of cash-strapped America

> who will not have a choice whether or not to participate, as the students in

> your example did. I wonder if the President would be as open to " relief from

> the mandate " as the Headmaster was.

>

> Respectfully,

> Diane

>

>

> Re: Why socialism won't work -Healthcare bill comments

> -can't resist

>

> Okay, can't resist. . . ;-)

>

> Aren't uniforms about equalizing all the kids - those that can't afford

> expensive clothing aren't set apart from those that can. . . a nice

> socialist

> thing. . . equalize all the students/citizenshi p by requiring uniforms . .

>

> . people judge based on personality rather than clothing. You'll tend to

> strive to become more of an individual.

>

> Your granddaughter already has the capitalism mindset right. . . work

> hard, pay for what you want - if you want to wear denim, you can pay extra

> for

> the right.

>

> The poor kids that can't afford the $5 aren't allowed to wear denim to

> school. Work hard to get what we want . . . just the exact post I started

> out

> with!

>

> Jan ;-)

>

> PS. Truly, if you look at the history of the world, socialism just doesn't

> work. Never has. It breeds tyranical governments and limits individuality.

> Think it works? - ask people from China, Venezuala, Cuba or Russia why they

>

> want to come to the US. Millions of veterans have died protecting our

> constitution so we wouldn't have to be socialists. But, that's what our

> current admin is trying to lead us into. Again, the heatlh care bill wasn't

> about

> health - it was about government control of the people. (Talk to an

> informed vet if you want more details.)

>

> In a message dated 4/5/2010 12:46:19 P.M. Mountain Daylight Time,

> mffrd10019yahoo (DOT) com writes:

>

> Diane,

>

> I read that you have taught your children the importance of being

> responsible citizens. I taught mine and am very pleased to see my

> grandchildren

> being given the same messages. My 14 year old granddaughter just made a

> proposal to the Headmaster of her school to allow the students to wear

> denim one

> day (they wear uniforms) and charge $5 for this privilege with the money

> collected going to help the victims of the earthquake in Haiti. The

> Headmaster responded that although he was against wearing denim in school

> he was so

> impressed with her proposal he had to agree. 120 students raised over

> $600.

> Gratefully there are future generations who will be at the front of the

> line teaching values and responsiblity to those whose parents were from the

>

> 'me' instant gratification generation and did not have the ability to teach

>

> their children what you have taught yours.

>

> Madalyn

>

> Jan Patenaude, RD, CLT

> Consultant, Writer, Speaker

> Director of Medical Nutrition

> Signet Diagnostic Corporation

> (Mountain Time)

> Fax:

> DineRight4aol (DOT) com

>

> " Though no one can go back and make a brand new start, anyone can start

> from now and make a brand new ending. "

> ~Carl Bard

>

>

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