Guest guest Posted May 16, 1998 Report Share Posted May 16, 1998 Thanks Laurie, I'm feeling so down this afternoon about that very point, that noone in my family will respond. I just can't comprehend people not caring about this little boy even if he weren't related. But then they all let me be the chosen one to be abused (my father had a violent temper and actually murdered some people tho he was able to hide it and no one in the family beleives me, at home we were the perfect family) and so maybe there is something connected here?? As long as I can be the broken person in the family they are kept intact and blameless the therapist said. The sad part is they are not intact (many of them have such similar symptoms as we do-per my brother's son who attempted suicide and my sister's son who is on Wellbutrin for the suicidal feelings/depression and violent temper, and my sister's similar heart problems, etc.). And all I wanted to do in the past is help us all. Now all I want to do is help us and let them chose to go one with their problems but they are even unwilling to do that. How can humans be so cold? And they all pretend to be friendly and caring whenever we talk or get together for anything, wierd, I can't figure it out. I will go on and make the genogram and include what I know. S. Re: Biopsies > > >- > >This is my personal opinion, but I don't think you need to have the help of those who don't want to be a >part of this. The way I did it was to make a family tree for both my father's side and my mother's side >of the family. I used a circle for females and a square for males. I used a " / " for those who were no >longer living. I then numbered each person and listed their confirmed diagnosis (like died of a heart >attack or GERD). I did this for my parents, grandparents, siblings and children of myself and siblings. >There were things I left off for some, but it was enough to give the doctor's a picture of the family. I >know Dr. Shoffner wasn't even interested in cousins at this point. Once a defect is found (if in the >mtDNA) then we can decide who needs to be informed or looked at more closely. > >Laurie > >> >> >> I was thinking it is my daughter Shenan who should do that and not as >> she would have both the nDNA and the mtDNA disorders most likely or at least >> the mtDNA which wouldn't have being my son's son. (Unless of course he >> had one thru his mom). > > > > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ >Looking for a new hobby? Want to make a new friend? >http://www.onelist.com >Come join one of the 145,000 email communities at ONElist! >------------------------------------------------------------------------ >Brought to you by www.imdn.org - an on-line support group for those affected by mitochondrial disease. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 15, 1999 Report Share Posted May 15, 1999 To anyone interested in biopsies. St. does do fresh biopsies, but there is a limiting factor to their capabilities. As I found out with my new patient that is going to be biopsied in Atlanta in June, St. has a weight limitation. They have looked at 3 of my patients, 2 who were apparently above the wt. limit and were biopsied, and one who wasn't biopsied who was just teetering below 20 pounds. Being a pediatrician and seeing kids under 20 pounds, I've become very " concerned " about the lack of resources locally (I live on the Jersey side of Philly). So, Philly offers another option for some people, but if less than 25 pounds whish is what I was told was their cut-off, then don't spend time, energy, hope, effort, etc in coming to Philly. Ken Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 15, 1999 Report Share Posted May 15, 1999 , Dr.Cohen does not actually do the biopsies in Cleveland, he is a neurologist not a surgeon. He does see folks with mitochondrial disease and he will help make the arrangements for a biopsy to be done, either at Case Western in Cleveland(actually where the specimen goes), or ish Rite in Atlanta. You are so close to the folks in California that also do fresh muscle biopsies, wouldn't it be easier all the way around for you to try to arrange an evaluation out there? There are all kinds of folks on the Ca list that give some guidance and perhaps even help with the arrangements, or steer you in the right direction. Jeannine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 16, 1999 Report Share Posted May 16, 1999 - This is my personal opinion, but I don't think you need to have the help of those who don't want to be a part of this. The way I did it was to make a family tree for both my father's side and my mother's side of the family. I used a circle for females and a square for males. I used a " / " for those who were no longer living. I then numbered each person and listed their confirmed diagnosis (like died of a heart attack or GERD). I did this for my parents, grandparents, siblings and children of myself and siblings. There were things I left off for some, but it was enough to give the doctor's a picture of the family. I know Dr. Shoffner wasn't even interested in cousins at this point. Once a defect is found (if in the mtDNA) then we can decide who needs to be informed or looked at more closely. Laurie > > > I was thinking it is my daughter Shenan who should do that and not as > she would have both the nDNA and the mtDNA disorders most likely or at least > the mtDNA which wouldn't have being my son's son. (Unless of course he > had one thru his mom). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 1, 1999 Report Share Posted June 1, 1999 Hi Nik, had a skin and muscle biopsy when he was 4 years old. The procedure itself and the healing time was no big deal. left with a band-aid and was told to follow up with his ped. We were in San Diego seeing a specialist at the time. As a matter of fact, he was undergoing a weeks worth of testing. He didn't seem to have any pain and it didn't seem to bother him when he crawled or moved around. It was a very small incision. The test results took about 3 months or so to get back and were negative. We had a frozen biopsy I think so that could be why the results were negative. Or it could be that they took a sample of good mitochondria. It's like looking for a needle in a haystack so don't be too disappointed if it comes back normal. All in all it's a pretty easy procedure. It's the waiting for the results that's hard. ) Sue ( & Jack)-worn out parents to the greatest kids on earth-- Chris-8: Leigh's Disease, MR (mild), hypotonia, non-walker/talker -7: Leigh's Disease, MR (mild), hypotonia, non-walker/talker, trach tube (tracheomalasia), g-tube/fundo http://jscb.home.mindspring.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 1, 1999 Report Share Posted June 1, 1999 Hi Nik, had a skin and muscle biopsy when he was 4 years old. The procedure itself and the healing time was no big deal. left with a band-aid and was told to follow up with his ped. We were in San Diego seeing a specialist at the time. As a matter of fact, he was undergoing a weeks worth of testing. He didn't seem to have any pain and it didn't seem to bother him when he crawled or moved around. It was a very small incision. The test results took about 3 months or so to get back and were negative. We had a frozen biopsy I think so that could be why the results were negative. Or it could be that they took a sample of good mitochondria. It's like looking for a needle in a haystack so don't be too disappointed if it comes back normal. All in all it's a pretty easy procedure. It's the waiting for the results that's hard. ) Sue ( & Jack)-worn out parents to the greatest kids on earth-- Chris-8: Leigh's Disease, MR (mild), hypotonia, non-walker/talker -7: Leigh's Disease, MR (mild), hypotonia, non-walker/talker, trach tube (tracheomalasia), g-tube/fundo http://jscb.home.mindspring.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 1, 1999 Report Share Posted June 1, 1999 I have a 19 mos old daughter who was just diagnosed this Dec. The muscle biopsy was done in Aug. As far as I know it usually takes this long due to the small # of testing centers and qualified people to run the tests. It will seem like forever before you get the results back. My daughter also turns her head to one side all of the time, but she turns it to the left. The idea about the eyesight was good. My daughter has cortical blindness but sees light and dark and some outlines. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 1, 1999 Report Share Posted June 1, 1999 I have a 19 mos old daughter who was just diagnosed this Dec. The muscle biopsy was done in Aug. As far as I know it usually takes this long due to the small # of testing centers and qualified people to run the tests. It will seem like forever before you get the results back. My daughter also turns her head to one side all of the time, but she turns it to the left. The idea about the eyesight was good. My daughter has cortical blindness but sees light and dark and some outlines. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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