Re: How many calories do you eat - read on before you YELL !! :D

[Guest guest]

Success stories and the national weight control registry are not

scientific studies...why choose to believe those sources over proven

medical research? If you want to listen to some kind of

recommendation instead of listening to your intuition, at least pick

something scientific, right?

I was able to eat more than you (500-600 more/day), exercise less and

maintain 120lbs. Does that mean anything for the population at large?

Do our individual stories have any meaning to others? Not really.

-- In IntuitiveEating_Support , " mum2one97 "

wrote:

>

> From the reading I've done, it seems that most women who have lost

> weight have to eat 1200-1500 calories a day and exercise 60 minutes 6

> days a week to maintain that loss. That seems to be the case for most

> of the " success stories " in magazines and for the people in the

> National Weight Control Registry. I know that when I was maintaining

> my weight at 135-140, I barely ate 1500 calories a day and exercised

> heavily -- 60 minutes of step aerobics six days a week, weight

> training 3 days a week, riding my bike 20-30 miles on the weekend, and

> walking 10,000+ steps a day in addition to the other exercise.

[Guest guest]

They actually have this new study out that says if you are just a little overweight, you actually live longer. I enjoy working out now so much more than when I was in the diet mentality. I also dont think the BMI charts and all those things are completely accurate for everyone. I finally realized after dieting for so many years and trying to get to the ideal weight for me (which is 135 at 5'5), that I actually dont think it's possible for my body w/o starving myself and working out for an hour and half to two hours six times a week. Actually even while I was doing that I never actually reached 135. I always plateaued at about 155. I finally realized the number on teh scale meant nothing. I am in perfect health (thank god), blood pressure, cholesterol, blood work all perfect. Though my weight was considered "overweight" according to the BMI chart, i think it doesnt mean much for how my overall general health was. I was always trying to aspire to this stupid magic number

instead of looking at how my body looked (w/o judgement), how i felt and how my health was. Most of my weight is in my thighs, and according to Dr. Oz on Oprah, he said that's the best place to have extra weight. Cuz it wont affect your health. So I dont think the numbers and those charts are something we have to STRICTLY adhere too. They are a good guide but i dont think we should obsess about them.

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[Guest guest]

, I know you didn't mean for this to upset me but just the numbers and the amount of exercise some of you ladies put yourselves through bring tears to my eyes and makes me feel overwhelmed. I will never be able to work out as much as that. NEVER. I could try but I would only set myself up for failure. Exercise intimidates me because I feel like I am not doing it right and it isn't doing any good and I am just wasting my time. I would never have any time for anything if I exercised as much as some of you do. My house would go to hell (), my son would forget who I was, and the dog would hide when she saw a stranger coming in the door. I know I can start small but if small doesn't do much and in order to maintain weight loss by exercising a MINIMUM of 60 minutes a day, what is the point. I will be fat forever. Michele wrote: From the reading I've done, it seems that most women who have lost weight have to eat 1200-1500 calories a day and exercise 60 minutes 6 days a week to maintain that loss. That seems to be the case for most of the "success stories" in magazines and for the people in the National Weight Control Registry. I know that when I was maintaining my weight at 135-140, I barely ate 1500 calories a day and exercised heavily -- 60 minutes of step aerobics six days a week, weight training 3 days a week, riding my bike 20-30 miles on the weekend, and walking 10,000+ steps a day in addition to the other exercise. MicheleCR: Tending Roses by Wingate RR: A Charmed Death by Madelyn Alt 3/5

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[Guest guest]

Great post. There was an article in the Orange County Register on

Sunday about BMI and the drawbacks of using to determine whether

someone is overweight. It said that most professional athletes are

overweight or obese if you go by their BMI. It appears that the only

way to really determine if someone is fat is to measure their body

fat percentage.

It kind of makes me wonder if the government statistics for the

percentage of overweight Americans is even close to accurate.

>

> They actually have this new study out that says if you are just a

little overweight, you actually live longer. I enjoy working out now

so much more than when I was in the diet mentality. I also dont think

the BMI charts and all those things are completely accurate for

everyone. I finally realized after dieting for so many years and

trying to get to the ideal weight for me (which is 135 at 5'5), that

I actually dont think it's possible for my body w/o starving myself

and working out for an hour and half to two hours six times a week.

Actually even while I was doing that I never actually reached 135. I

always plateaued at about 155. I finally realized the number on teh

scale meant nothing. I am in perfect health (thank god), blood

pressure, cholesterol, blood work all perfect. Though my weight was

considered " overweight " according to the BMI chart, i think it doesnt

mean much for how my overall general health was. I was always trying

to aspire to this stupid magic number

> instead of looking at how my body looked (w/o judgement), how i

felt and how my health was. Most of my weight is in my thighs, and

according to Dr. Oz on Oprah, he said that's the best place to have

extra weight. Cuz it wont affect your health. So I dont think the

numbers and those charts are something we have to STRICTLY adhere

too. They are a good guide but i dont think we should obsess about

them.

>

>

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[Guest guest]

I don't disagree with you -- in fact, I couldn't maintain that level

of starvation and exercise and starting bingeing. I binged my way

back up to 172 before I gave up dieting.

> >

> > From the reading I've done, it seems that most women who have

lost

> > weight have to eat 1200-1500 calories a day and exercise 60

minutes 6

> > days a week to maintain that loss. That seems to be the case for

most

> > of the " success stories " in magazines and for the people in the

> > National Weight Control Registry. I know that when I was

maintaining

> > my weight at 135-140, I barely ate 1500 calories a day and

exercised

> > heavily -- 60 minutes of step aerobics six days a week, weight

> > training 3 days a week, riding my bike 20-30 miles on the

weekend,

> and

> > walking 10,000+ steps a day in addition to the other exercise.

> >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

I don't disagree with you -- in fact, I couldn't maintain that level

of starvation and exercise and starting bingeing. I binged my way

back up to 172 before I gave up dieting.

> >

> > From the reading I've done, it seems that most women who have

lost

> > weight have to eat 1200-1500 calories a day and exercise 60

minutes 6

> > days a week to maintain that loss. That seems to be the case for

most

> > of the " success stories " in magazines and for the people in the

> > National Weight Control Registry. I know that when I was

maintaining

> > my weight at 135-140, I barely ate 1500 calories a day and

exercised

> > heavily -- 60 minutes of step aerobics six days a week, weight

> > training 3 days a week, riding my bike 20-30 miles on the

weekend,

> and

> > walking 10,000+ steps a day in addition to the other exercise.

> >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Sorry about that -- I don't know why my posts show up twice sometimes.

We'll see if this one does. I was thinking today that I'm so glad I'm

not " afraid " of Valentine's Day. Right now we have a cake, cupcakes,

cookies, and brownies in the break room and I don't really care. Yea

freedom from diets!

>

> I don't disagree with you -- in fact, I couldn't maintain that level

> of starvation and exercise and starting bingeing. I binged my way

> back up to 172 before I gave up dieting.

[Guest guest]

Sorry about that -- I don't know why my posts show up twice sometimes.

We'll see if this one does. I was thinking today that I'm so glad I'm

not " afraid " of Valentine's Day. Right now we have a cake, cupcakes,

cookies, and brownies in the break room and I don't really care. Yea

freedom from diets!

>

> I don't disagree with you -- in fact, I couldn't maintain that level

> of starvation and exercise and starting bingeing. I binged my way

> back up to 172 before I gave up dieting.

[Guest guest]

I know exactly waht you mean! It's so great to be able to know that I

can have the tons of chocolate I get as gifts whenever I want. Same

with other holidays. I still have candy leftover from Christmas. I

never thought I'd be able to feel this way.

>

> Sorry about that -- I don't know why my posts show up twice

sometimes.

> We'll see if this one does. I was thinking today that I'm so glad I'm

> not " afraid " of Valentine's Day. Right now we have a cake, cupcakes,

> cookies, and brownies in the break room and I don't really care. Yea

> freedom from diets!

[Guest guest]

I know what you mean, Michele. I only work out like crazy when I'm

in that diet mentality. It never lasts. I think maybe if you found

something you love to do that works up a sweat taht's better rather

than doing something intimidating. Do you like dancing, maybe you

could just put up some music in the house and dance to it? Or just

go for a walk and get some fresh air. And just enjoy it rather than

thinking of it as a weight loss method. I think exercising is more

about doing something that you like adn that makes you feel good

rather tahn doing it for weight loss.

I'm sorry if any of my comments made you feel overwhelmed. Hearing

about some of the ladies that weigh 120 or 130 bothered me too bc i

weigh almost 200 lbs and that's with working out. I never used to be

this heavy and I think bc of all the dieting and binging cycle got

me to my highest weight ever. I wish I was just happy with what I

was to begin with 20-30 lbs ago. Dieting sux and learning how to

accept ourselves no matter what is even harder.

>

> From the reading I've done, it seems that most women who have

lost

> weight have to eat 1200-1500 calories a day and exercise 60

minutes 6

> days a week to maintain that loss. That seems to be the case for

most

> of the " success stories " in magazines and for the people in the

> National Weight Control Registry. I know that when I was

maintaining

> my weight at 135-140, I barely ate 1500 calories a day and

exercised

> heavily -- 60 minutes of step aerobics six days a week, weight

> training 3 days a week, riding my bike 20-30 miles on the weekend,

and

> walking 10,000+ steps a day in addition to the other exercise.

>

>

>

>

>

> Michele

> CR: Tending Roses by Wingate

>

> RR: A Charmed Death by Madelyn Alt 3/5

>

>

>

> ---------------------------------

> Get your own web address.

> Have a HUGE year through Yahoo! Small Business.

>

[Guest guest]

Michele,

Just FYI, I believe it is possible to exercise less and lose weight. I

work out twice a week and am proud of that accomplishment given

everything else I have going on. Not that the gals who work out more

don't have a lot going on, but everyone makes choices and I am choosing

at the moment to spend more time on other things. As are you.

Anne

Michele Hagenlock wrote:

,

I know you didn't mean for this to upset me but just the numbers

and the amount of exercise some of you ladies put yourselves through

bring tears to my eyes and makes me feel overwhelmed. I will never be

able to work out as much as that. NEVER.

[Guest guest]

Sandi,

I live in Orange County, too.

Anne

Sandi wrote:

Great post. There was an article in the Orange County Register

[Guest guest]

Sandi,

I live in Orange County, too.

Anne

Sandi wrote:

Great post. There was an article in the Orange County Register

[Guest guest]

Sandi,

I live in Orange County, too.

Anne

Sandi wrote:

Great post. There was an article in the Orange County Register

[Guest guest]

Michele,

You do not need to feel so upset. Every little bit DOES count! Even

fidgeting! I've read the recommendations of 60 min. per day minimum

to lose weight, but I don't believe it. Or I don't believe it's 60

min. intense. That could mean a 60 min. leisurely walk. The

important thing is that you move somehow. At my most compulsive

exercise phase I was up to 5 hr. per week, and that was kicking my

butt. Right now I only work out 3-4 times per week 30-45 min. each

time. You really don't need to work out 7 hours per week! I

promise! Don't be upset about this.

>

> From the reading I've done, it seems that most women who have

lost

> weight have to eat 1200-1500 calories a day and exercise 60 minutes

6

> days a week to maintain that loss. That seems to be the case for

most

> of the " success stories " in magazines and for the people in the

> National Weight Control Registry. I know that when I was

maintaining

> my weight at 135-140, I barely ate 1500 calories a day and

exercised

> heavily -- 60 minutes of step aerobics six days a week, weight

> training 3 days a week, riding my bike 20-30 miles on the weekend,

and

> walking 10,000+ steps a day in addition to the other exercise.

>

>

>

>

>

> Michele

> CR: Tending Roses by Wingate

>

> RR: A Charmed Death by Madelyn Alt 3/5

>

>

>

> ---------------------------------

> Get your own web address.

> Have a HUGE year through Yahoo! Small Business.

>

[Guest guest]

Michele,

You do not need to feel so upset. Every little bit DOES count! Even

fidgeting! I've read the recommendations of 60 min. per day minimum

to lose weight, but I don't believe it. Or I don't believe it's 60

min. intense. That could mean a 60 min. leisurely walk. The

important thing is that you move somehow. At my most compulsive

exercise phase I was up to 5 hr. per week, and that was kicking my

butt. Right now I only work out 3-4 times per week 30-45 min. each

time. You really don't need to work out 7 hours per week! I

promise! Don't be upset about this.

>

> From the reading I've done, it seems that most women who have

lost

> weight have to eat 1200-1500 calories a day and exercise 60 minutes

6

> days a week to maintain that loss. That seems to be the case for

most

> of the " success stories " in magazines and for the people in the

> National Weight Control Registry. I know that when I was

maintaining

> my weight at 135-140, I barely ate 1500 calories a day and

exercised

> heavily -- 60 minutes of step aerobics six days a week, weight

> training 3 days a week, riding my bike 20-30 miles on the weekend,

and

> walking 10,000+ steps a day in addition to the other exercise.

>

>

>

>

>

> Michele

> CR: Tending Roses by Wingate

>

> RR: A Charmed Death by Madelyn Alt 3/5

>

>

>

> ---------------------------------

> Get your own web address.

> Have a HUGE year through Yahoo! Small Business.

>

[Guest guest]

I'm sorry -- she asked, and I just wanted to relate my experience

and what I've read. I don't exercise like or eat like that anymore.

I had a biking accident, broke my leg into 40+ pieces, and was

bedridden for 10 weeks. I do exercise over an hour a day, but I no

longer force myself to do it when I'm sick or tired.

I think we have to eat intuitively and see what happens. I may lose

weight and be a size 6 again -- I may not. Whether I do or not has

no bearing on the kind of person I am -- same with you. My husband

loves me, my kids love me, and my friends love me -- no matter what

my size.

>

> From the reading I've done, it seems that most women who have

lost

> weight have to eat 1200-1500 calories a day and exercise 60

minutes 6

> days a week to maintain that loss. That seems to be the case for

most

> of the " success stories " in magazines and for the people in the

> National Weight Control Registry. I know that when I was

maintaining

> my weight at 135-140, I barely ate 1500 calories a day and

exercised

> heavily -- 60 minutes of step aerobics six days a week, weight

> training 3 days a week, riding my bike 20-30 miles on the weekend,

and

> walking 10,000+ steps a day in addition to the other exercise.

>

>

>

>

>

> Michele

> CR: Tending Roses by Wingate

>

> RR: A Charmed Death by Madelyn Alt 3/5

>

>

>

> ---------------------------------

> Get your own web address.

> Have a HUGE year through Yahoo! Small Business.

>

[Guest guest]

I'm sorry -- she asked, and I just wanted to relate my experience

and what I've read. I don't exercise like or eat like that anymore.

I had a biking accident, broke my leg into 40+ pieces, and was

bedridden for 10 weeks. I do exercise over an hour a day, but I no

longer force myself to do it when I'm sick or tired.

I think we have to eat intuitively and see what happens. I may lose

weight and be a size 6 again -- I may not. Whether I do or not has

no bearing on the kind of person I am -- same with you. My husband

loves me, my kids love me, and my friends love me -- no matter what

my size.

>

> From the reading I've done, it seems that most women who have

lost

> weight have to eat 1200-1500 calories a day and exercise 60

minutes 6

> days a week to maintain that loss. That seems to be the case for

most

> of the " success stories " in magazines and for the people in the

> National Weight Control Registry. I know that when I was

maintaining

> my weight at 135-140, I barely ate 1500 calories a day and

exercised

> heavily -- 60 minutes of step aerobics six days a week, weight

> training 3 days a week, riding my bike 20-30 miles on the weekend,

and

> walking 10,000+ steps a day in addition to the other exercise.

>

>

>

>

>

> Michele

> CR: Tending Roses by Wingate

>

> RR: A Charmed Death by Madelyn Alt 3/5

>

>

>

> ---------------------------------

> Get your own web address.

> Have a HUGE year through Yahoo! Small Business.

>

[Guest guest]

Thanks for the help. I need to start taking this all seriously and thinking about what is going to happen to me in the future. I don't have too many more years left and my metabolism is really going to start slowing down and then I don't be able to do much of anything to change that. It is very out of whack as it is. I need to take one day at a time and be patient with the changes and the process. Michele seek joy wrote: I eat intuitively, do NOT exercise (besides chasing myson all day), and I am losing weight. And I'm 36 aswell. Your body will tell you how much to eat. You'llbe just fine.

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