Clancy's sponsorship meetings?

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At 11:04 PM 7/9/99 EDT, you wrote:

>I used to go to " sponsorship meetings " in the Clancy-anointed group I

>attended. They reminded me of what " Promise-Keeper " meetings might be like.

>Made me want to fucking puke. (By the way- Duke is truly a thoroughly

>rotten human being, but what's so bad about Barry Goldwater?)

I have a weird feeling about this, almost like I don't want to ask, but I'm

fascinated. What happened in those " sponsorship meetings " ?

Joe Berenbaum

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Hi Joe;

Don't know who's post it was that mentioned david Duke, but

wanted to know how come I listed Goldawater with him.

Several reasons. Folks who investigated Goldwater wound up

meeting untimely deaths, one reporter's mailbox went bang

anothers car blew up and one comitted suicide, all in about 8 or

nine years. They were able to find out that he and some

friends(One later nominated for Supreme Court) used to go to the

neighborhoods and " Discourage " minorities from voting, strange

most of them were democrats.

Goldwater is one about whom some is known, much presumed,

but had too much power to be seriously challenged. Now it seems

unimportant, but he was a closet Duke with more power. At

one time I thoroughly admired the man, but after all the stuff started

filtering through the cracks he turned out to be KKK without the

sheet. Hard to figure, but at least part of it is documented. What

went with the three reproters is anybodies guess. Death by guns

or explosives are common in Arizona because either can be had

easily and legally. You don't even have to have an ID to buy a gun,

just the money. No waiting period no check. Dynamite at any

construction supplier and some hardware stores. I lived there for

three years and left, too many gunshot deaths, even in rural areas.

Somewhere around 20% of gunshot deaths are from stray bullets,

but they are just as deadly as the aimed ones. Girl sunning herself

by her pool 2 doors down from me, when two guys got into it in

front of a bar about 100 yards away, guy starts blasting with a 44

automag and it went through a redwood fence and tore her apart,

he missed the guy he was shooting at, but put three through her

fence. They didn't catch him. The 44 automag was an assumption

because bystanders in the bar called it an automatic hand gun. I

don't think any other could have travelled a hundred yards, punch

through a fence, and still have power enough to kill.

That one made me move to Apache Junction where I was

burglarized twice. Its so common the cops don't even come out.

After the second I came back to Iowa and stayed.

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In a message dated 7/9/99 10:17:39 PM Central Daylight Time,

joe-b@... writes:

<<

>I used to go to " sponsorship meetings " in the Clancy-anointed group I

>attended. They reminded me of what " Promise-Keeper " meetings might be like.

>Made me want to fucking puke. (By the way- Duke is truly a thoroughly

>rotten human being, but what's so bad about Barry Goldwater?)

I have a weird feeling about this, almost like I don't want to ask, but I'm

fascinated. What happened in those " sponsorship meetings " ?

>>

Sat in a circle, shared in hierarchy of sober time most time sharing first.

Between 12-20 people present, all males. Lots of speaking of the big book as

if it were infallible. Kind of laid back sometimes, ironically these were

some of my favorite meetings. Not anymore though; I see all too clearly what

they are about. The group at large is heavy into sponsorship, " it's not about

you, " and all kinds of other crap. (Hey, if it's not about me, then what the

fuck am I doing here???)

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In a message dated 7/9/99 10:17:39 PM Central Daylight Time,

joe-b@... writes:

<<

>I used to go to " sponsorship meetings " in the Clancy-anointed group I

>attended. They reminded me of what " Promise-Keeper " meetings might be like.

>Made me want to fucking puke. (By the way- Duke is truly a thoroughly

>rotten human being, but what's so bad about Barry Goldwater?)

I have a weird feeling about this, almost like I don't want to ask, but I'm

fascinated. What happened in those " sponsorship meetings " ?

>>

Sat in a circle, shared in hierarchy of sober time most time sharing first.

Between 12-20 people present, all males. Lots of speaking of the big book as

if it were infallible. Kind of laid back sometimes, ironically these were

some of my favorite meetings. Not anymore though; I see all too clearly what

they are about. The group at large is heavy into sponsorship, " it's not about

you, " and all kinds of other crap. (Hey, if it's not about me, then what the

fuck am I doing here???)

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In a message dated 7/9/99 10:17:39 PM Central Daylight Time,

joe-b@... writes:

<<

>I used to go to " sponsorship meetings " in the Clancy-anointed group I

>attended. They reminded me of what " Promise-Keeper " meetings might be like.

>Made me want to fucking puke. (By the way- Duke is truly a thoroughly

>rotten human being, but what's so bad about Barry Goldwater?)

I have a weird feeling about this, almost like I don't want to ask, but I'm

fascinated. What happened in those " sponsorship meetings " ?

>>

Sat in a circle, shared in hierarchy of sober time most time sharing first.

Between 12-20 people present, all males. Lots of speaking of the big book as

if it were infallible. Kind of laid back sometimes, ironically these were

some of my favorite meetings. Not anymore though; I see all too clearly what

they are about. The group at large is heavy into sponsorship, " it's not about

you, " and all kinds of other crap. (Hey, if it's not about me, then what the

fuck am I doing here???)

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