Guest guest Posted January 12, 2007 Report Share Posted January 12, 2007 Hi Marguerite, I really empathize with what you are going to as it is very familiar to me. How about reading or rereading some books on IE? I think hearing success stories and positive thoughts about IE help inspire me to take chances. I think you are already at an advantage for becoming a more intuitive eater. You recognize the thoughts that paralyze you. When you are consciously aware of these thoughts, you can do something about them. You can decide that these thoughts are irrational and work to push them out of your mind. It is scary to make change, but you can do it! Amy > > I am returning to IE after a short experience with it and find myself > in the same place as I was when I left it: afraid. Mostly I'm not > sure how to NOT eat " diet " foods or calculate WW points/calories in my > mind when evaluating what I should eat next. This fear has become so > great that at times I feel paralyzed and even depressed; the inability > to determine what I should do makes me almost not want to eat. > > Also, I have been told recently by several doctors that I need to eat > more than I had been. I am an active runner and lift weights. In the > course of tracking WW points, I also calculated my daily caloric > intake and realized that on most days I had been eating 1500 or fewer > calories. This is not a lot when viewed against the 500-600 calories I > was expending at the gym or running before even eating breakfast! > Anyway, over the past year, I have seen a weight creep probably due to > a slowdown in my metabolism, so I agree that I should try to eat > more. I'm not sure how I should apply this advice and stay true to IE. > > Any thoughts? > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 14, 2007 Report Share Posted January 14, 2007 It's definitely a process. Start small -- use real cream in your coffee or buy 2% cottage cheese instead of nonfat. See if you like the real thing. You may not. However, I found that sometimes I am satisfied with less of the real thing. For example, no amount of artificially sweetened fat free yogurt was enough to satisfy me, but a small amount of plain lowfat Stoneyfield Farm yogurt mixed with real fruit is heavenly. Fake WW desserts -- I could have eaten an entire box of those 1 point cakes and not been satisfied. However, one homemade chocolate chip cookie is fabulous. For me, eating intuitively meant a return to real food and an end to eating manufactured food that I ate simply because it was low in calories. No more fat free hot dogs for me! That doesn't mean I eat hamburgers and fries every day (rarely, in fact). I eat food I like, but still keep the emphasis on health. I don't want my or my family's cholesterol levels to be unhealthy. I still cook mainly from " light " cookbooks, but I don't use fake ingredients. I like Tribole's cookbooks, and Cooking Light's recipes. If I want french fries every so often, I eat them. > I am returning to IE after a short experience with it and find myself > in the same place as I was when I left it: afraid. Mostly I'm not > sure how to NOT eat " diet " foods or calculate WW points/calories in my > mind when evaluating what I should eat next. _________________________________________________________________ Type your favorite song. Get a customized station. Try MSN Radio powered by Pandora. http://radio.msn.com/?icid=T002MSN03A07001 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 14, 2007 Report Share Posted January 14, 2007 It's definitely a process. Start small -- use real cream in your coffee or buy 2% cottage cheese instead of nonfat. See if you like the real thing. You may not. However, I found that sometimes I am satisfied with less of the real thing. For example, no amount of artificially sweetened fat free yogurt was enough to satisfy me, but a small amount of plain lowfat Stoneyfield Farm yogurt mixed with real fruit is heavenly. Fake WW desserts -- I could have eaten an entire box of those 1 point cakes and not been satisfied. However, one homemade chocolate chip cookie is fabulous. For me, eating intuitively meant a return to real food and an end to eating manufactured food that I ate simply because it was low in calories. No more fat free hot dogs for me! That doesn't mean I eat hamburgers and fries every day (rarely, in fact). I eat food I like, but still keep the emphasis on health. I don't want my or my family's cholesterol levels to be unhealthy. I still cook mainly from " light " cookbooks, but I don't use fake ingredients. I like Tribole's cookbooks, and Cooking Light's recipes. If I want french fries every so often, I eat them. > I am returning to IE after a short experience with it and find myself > in the same place as I was when I left it: afraid. Mostly I'm not > sure how to NOT eat " diet " foods or calculate WW points/calories in my > mind when evaluating what I should eat next. _________________________________________________________________ Type your favorite song. Get a customized station. Try MSN Radio powered by Pandora. http://radio.msn.com/?icid=T002MSN03A07001 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 15, 2007 Report Share Posted January 15, 2007 My 2 most recent diets before IE were WW and SB. I can really related to your post. I still catch myself going to check the calories of something I am about to eat and have to stop myself. I think the most important thing to accept is that you will most likely gain weight when you fully accept IE and that it is okay if that happens. I have gained about 5 lbs since I started, but for the past month my weight has maintained. I have faith that the scales will tip in my direction at some point, but if they don't I accept that as well. I know that the book recommends tossing the scale, but I haven't done that. I still like to weigh myself occasionally, but the number it shows doesn't make or break my day and it doesn't change what I will eat. Not anymore and not ever again! > > I am returning to IE after a short experience with it and find myself > in the same place as I was when I left it: afraid. Mostly I'm not > sure how to NOT eat " diet " foods or calculate WW points/calories in my > mind when evaluating what I should eat next. This fear has become so > great that at times I feel paralyzed and even depressed; the inability > to determine what I should do makes me almost not want to eat. > > Also, I have been told recently by several doctors that I need to eat > more than I had been. I am an active runner and lift weights. In the > course of tracking WW points, I also calculated my daily caloric > intake and realized that on most days I had been eating 1500 or fewer > calories. This is not a lot when viewed against the 500-600 calories I > was expending at the gym or running before even eating breakfast! > Anyway, over the past year, I have seen a weight creep probably due to > a slowdown in my metabolism, so I agree that I should try to eat > more. I'm not sure how I should apply this advice and stay true to IE. > > Any thoughts? > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 15, 2007 Report Share Posted January 15, 2007 I quit WW back in October. I had been on a plateau for months and after some research I realized that my 20 points a day wasn't giving me enough calories for my activity level. I haven't been counting calories or anything since then. If it's any consolation, the extra holiday eating put me 3 pounds over what I was the last time I weighed in at WW. That's at the top of the range that I promised myself I wouldn't go over. And, I think the biggest reason why my weight is at the top of the range is that I didn't have as much time to exercise during the holiday season. Last week was my first full week of regular workouts, so hopefully the weight will go back down in a couple of weeks. I'm not worried one way or another. I proved to myself that I can eat without counting points or calories and not gain back all the weight I lost last year. > > I am returning to IE after a short experience with it and find myself > in the same place as I was when I left it: afraid. Mostly I'm not > sure how to NOT eat " diet " foods or calculate WW points/calories in my > mind when evaluating what I should eat next. This fear has become so > great that at times I feel paralyzed and even depressed; the inability > to determine what I should do makes me almost not want to eat. > > Also, I have been told recently by several doctors that I need to eat > more than I had been. I am an active runner and lift weights. In the > course of tracking WW points, I also calculated my daily caloric > intake and realized that on most days I had been eating 1500 or fewer > calories. This is not a lot when viewed against the 500-600 calories I > was expending at the gym or running before even eating breakfast! > Anyway, over the past year, I have seen a weight creep probably due to > a slowdown in my metabolism, so I agree that I should try to eat > more. I'm not sure how I should apply this advice and stay true to IE. > > Any thoughts? > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 15, 2007 Report Share Posted January 15, 2007 It's so nice to know that there are people who feel just like me! Last night I had absolutely had it with WW. I went to one meeting once and hated it, but having been doing it online off and on for a year and a half. I was eating one piece of pizza. Just one. And I really wanted it, but was afraid to put it in my stupid points tracker. And it hit me, I just ate ONE piece of pizza that I really wanted. Normally I would inhale 4 pieces before realizing I was so full I felt sick, and then flog myself about it for days. And here I was freaking out about one piece. I cancelled my WW account and I'm not doing it anymore. Which isn't to say that it isn't terrifying. I woke up at about 4:30 this morning panicking about it. It seems silly now, but I was like " oh god! I'm not on a diet! I'm going to get enormous " . Hopefully it will get easier. I carry my IE book around with me and read bits whenever I freak out. Also, if you go to the IE website (intuitiveeating.com) there's a list of the 10 principles outlined in the book that you can print out. I keep it in my desk drawer. It helps. Sorry this is so long-winded, I'm so delighted to find like-minded people that I keep babbling. > > I am returning to IE after a short experience with it and find myself > in the same place as I was when I left it: afraid. Mostly I'm not > sure how to NOT eat " diet " foods or calculate WW points/calories in my > mind when evaluating what I should eat next. This fear has become so > great that at times I feel paralyzed and even depressed; the inability > to determine what I should do makes me almost not want to eat. > > Also, I have been told recently by several doctors that I need to eat > more than I had been. I am an active runner and lift weights. In the > course of tracking WW points, I also calculated my daily caloric > intake and realized that on most days I had been eating 1500 or fewer > calories. This is not a lot when viewed against the 500-600 calories I > was expending at the gym or running before even eating breakfast! > Anyway, over the past year, I have seen a weight creep probably due to > a slowdown in my metabolism, so I agree that I should try to eat > more. I'm not sure how I should apply this advice and stay true to IE. > > Any thoughts? > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 15, 2007 Report Share Posted January 15, 2007 It's so nice to know that there are people who feel just like me! Last night I had absolutely had it with WW. I went to one meeting once and hated it, but having been doing it online off and on for a year and a half. I was eating one piece of pizza. Just one. And I really wanted it, but was afraid to put it in my stupid points tracker. And it hit me, I just ate ONE piece of pizza that I really wanted. Normally I would inhale 4 pieces before realizing I was so full I felt sick, and then flog myself about it for days. And here I was freaking out about one piece. I cancelled my WW account and I'm not doing it anymore. Which isn't to say that it isn't terrifying. I woke up at about 4:30 this morning panicking about it. It seems silly now, but I was like " oh god! I'm not on a diet! I'm going to get enormous " . Hopefully it will get easier. I carry my IE book around with me and read bits whenever I freak out. Also, if you go to the IE website (intuitiveeating.com) there's a list of the 10 principles outlined in the book that you can print out. I keep it in my desk drawer. It helps. Sorry this is so long-winded, I'm so delighted to find like-minded people that I keep babbling. > > I am returning to IE after a short experience with it and find myself > in the same place as I was when I left it: afraid. Mostly I'm not > sure how to NOT eat " diet " foods or calculate WW points/calories in my > mind when evaluating what I should eat next. This fear has become so > great that at times I feel paralyzed and even depressed; the inability > to determine what I should do makes me almost not want to eat. > > Also, I have been told recently by several doctors that I need to eat > more than I had been. I am an active runner and lift weights. In the > course of tracking WW points, I also calculated my daily caloric > intake and realized that on most days I had been eating 1500 or fewer > calories. This is not a lot when viewed against the 500-600 calories I > was expending at the gym or running before even eating breakfast! > Anyway, over the past year, I have seen a weight creep probably due to > a slowdown in my metabolism, so I agree that I should try to eat > more. I'm not sure how I should apply this advice and stay true to IE. > > Any thoughts? > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 16, 2007 Report Share Posted January 16, 2007 Oh - I am with you all regarding WW. I lost 30 pounds on WW 2 years ago, now I have gained back 20. I constantly find myself counting points " just out of curiosity " . And I find that it makes me crazy - because if I ate less that 20 points that day, I will start making up for it. But if I ate more, then I feel bad and have to spend more time convincing myself about IE. The one thing that has really helped me a lot is paying attention to the food I am eating. I consciously taste each and every bite. That helps me to eat things that I enjoy and it helps me determine my satiety level, too. I have given up the scale, but I am finding that my clothes seem to show I am continuing to gain. I am amazingly frustrated by this, especially when I think of the difference between how I eat now and how I did before I started on this road. I have hope, but it makes me want to cry every time I try on new clothes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 16, 2007 Report Share Posted January 16, 2007 hi u know what same thing is happening with me too. In the first 2 weeks of IE i lost 5 pounds,.,,no i gained 2 pounds again... i m scared...I am scared to weigh my self.... it is a big fear...i could not eat even i m hungry...i m not able to differentiate my hunger and fullness... i m so confused.. any one,,,plz help me > > Oh - I am with you all regarding WW. I lost 30 pounds on WW 2 years > ago, now I have gained back 20. I constantly find myself counting > points " just out of curiosity " . And I find that it makes me crazy - > because if I ate less that 20 points that day, I will start making up > for it. But if I ate more, then I feel bad and have to spend more > time convincing myself about IE. > > The one thing that has really helped me a lot is paying attention to > the food I am eating. I consciously taste each and every bite. That > helps me to eat things that I enjoy and it helps me determine my > satiety level, too. > > I have given up the scale, but I am finding that my clothes seem to > show I am continuing to gain. I am amazingly frustrated by this, > especially when I think of the difference between how I eat now and > how I did before I started on this road. I have hope, but it makes me > want to cry every time I try on new clothes. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 16, 2007 Report Share Posted January 16, 2007 hi u know what same thing is happening with me too. In the first 2 weeks of IE i lost 5 pounds,.,,no i gained 2 pounds again... i m scared...I am scared to weigh my self.... it is a big fear...i could not eat even i m hungry...i m not able to differentiate my hunger and fullness... i m so confused.. any one,,,plz help me > > Oh - I am with you all regarding WW. I lost 30 pounds on WW 2 years > ago, now I have gained back 20. I constantly find myself counting > points " just out of curiosity " . And I find that it makes me crazy - > because if I ate less that 20 points that day, I will start making up > for it. But if I ate more, then I feel bad and have to spend more > time convincing myself about IE. > > The one thing that has really helped me a lot is paying attention to > the food I am eating. I consciously taste each and every bite. That > helps me to eat things that I enjoy and it helps me determine my > satiety level, too. > > I have given up the scale, but I am finding that my clothes seem to > show I am continuing to gain. I am amazingly frustrated by this, > especially when I think of the difference between how I eat now and > how I did before I started on this road. I have hope, but it makes me > want to cry every time I try on new clothes. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 16, 2007 Report Share Posted January 16, 2007 Hi, I, too, had that mentality until I became pregnant back in summer of 2005. I sort of stopped WW cold turkey because although I tried to obtain support from WW they wouldn't help me due to liability. Anyway...right before I got pregnant I was at such a great weight (for me) and I wanted to limit my weight gain for my health and the health of my baby. Well, old habits crept up and I gained WAY more than I wanted too. I sort of used my pregnancy as an excuse to eat whatever, whenever. Well, now I'm torn. I know WW works for me, but I'm never able to maintain the loss. I'm great at gaining and pretty good at losing. However, now I want to learn how to be a healthy eater for my son (and myself). I'm scared to " take the plunge " too. I so have that mentality in my head. I'm not yet finished with the IE book, but I'm working on it. > > I am returning to IE after a short experience with it and find myself > in the same place as I was when I left it: afraid. Mostly I'm not > sure how to NOT eat " diet " foods or calculate WW points/calories in my > mind when evaluating what I should eat next. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 16, 2007 Report Share Posted January 16, 2007 Hi, I, too, had that mentality until I became pregnant back in summer of 2005. I sort of stopped WW cold turkey because although I tried to obtain support from WW they wouldn't help me due to liability. Anyway...right before I got pregnant I was at such a great weight (for me) and I wanted to limit my weight gain for my health and the health of my baby. Well, old habits crept up and I gained WAY more than I wanted too. I sort of used my pregnancy as an excuse to eat whatever, whenever. Well, now I'm torn. I know WW works for me, but I'm never able to maintain the loss. I'm great at gaining and pretty good at losing. However, now I want to learn how to be a healthy eater for my son (and myself). I'm scared to " take the plunge " too. I so have that mentality in my head. I'm not yet finished with the IE book, but I'm working on it. > > I am returning to IE after a short experience with it and find myself > in the same place as I was when I left it: afraid. Mostly I'm not > sure how to NOT eat " diet " foods or calculate WW points/calories in my > mind when evaluating what I should eat next. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 16, 2007 Report Share Posted January 16, 2007 Hi, I, too, had that mentality until I became pregnant back in summer of 2005. I sort of stopped WW cold turkey because although I tried to obtain support from WW they wouldn't help me due to liability. Anyway...right before I got pregnant I was at such a great weight (for me) and I wanted to limit my weight gain for my health and the health of my baby. Well, old habits crept up and I gained WAY more than I wanted too. I sort of used my pregnancy as an excuse to eat whatever, whenever. Well, now I'm torn. I know WW works for me, but I'm never able to maintain the loss. I'm great at gaining and pretty good at losing. However, now I want to learn how to be a healthy eater for my son (and myself). I'm scared to " take the plunge " too. I so have that mentality in my head. I'm not yet finished with the IE book, but I'm working on it. > > I am returning to IE after a short experience with it and find myself > in the same place as I was when I left it: afraid. Mostly I'm not > sure how to NOT eat " diet " foods or calculate WW points/calories in my > mind when evaluating what I should eat next. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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