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Deb:

He weighs 27 kg (very skinny for his age). 1T didn't touch it and neither

did 1.5T so I give between 1.75 and 2T and it works overnight. On the

bottle we have it says for Laxative 2-4T for adults and for children 1/2-2T.

As Antacid 1-3tsp for adults (no children's dose given).

>Wow........I know the regular dose is supposed to be 1T for adults, but one

>TEASPOON is all it takes for our son! How much does he weigh? Curiousity

>might have killed the cat, it just uses up my time!! <G> Love, Deb

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Hey, great, whatever works! Love, Deb

> Deb:

> He weighs 27 kg (very skinny for his age). 1T didn't touch it and neither

> did 1.5T so I give between 1.75 and 2T and it works overnight. On the

> bottle we have it says for Laxative 2-4T for adults and for children

1/2-2T.

> As Antacid 1-3tsp for adults (no children's dose given).

>

>

>

> >Wow........I know the regular dose is supposed to be 1T for adults, but

one

> >TEASPOON is all it takes for our son! How much does he weigh?

Curiousity

> >might have killed the cat, it just uses up my time!! <G> Love, Deb

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Ialso give half a teaspoon of mucilax (pysillium husks) at breakfast andlunch time.

ine...

Gimme more on the Pysillium husks.... has been on the diet over 4 years

and I worry bout the lack of fiber. I have pysillium husks handy at home (I take a tbls in

cranberry juice) and have been considering giving some. Do you calculate anything

in dietwize?? It lists calories on the label but no carbs....I figure this is because its

mostly bulk and not burnable carbs.

just curious

Barb....s mom

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Dear Barb

I give the psyllium husks as a powder. You don't have to allow

for it in the kgd because it is not digested or retained by the body.

The dietician recommended it. It is also gluten free and contains no

chemicals. Jess has 1 x half teaspoon at breakfast and the same at

lunch.

Hope this is of some help.

Cheers

ine

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Hi....

The only thing I can think of might be his weight...... our dietician states that they have the best seizure control for the kids that are down around the 25th %ile for weight. Maybe he needs to lose some more? Is he still on any meds? Sounds like you have done a good thing by going to six meals a day. It's a good sign that he is accepting his food more readily. If he was already in ketosis before you really started the diet, just with an increase in fats and proteins, it really makes me wonder. Maybe because he is so young, the diet will work differently for him and he doesn't need the higher ratio? I know that Nan's son, Sevi, seems to need a lower ratio for best control ..... and he started the diet fairly young. Keep hanging in there! And good luck with the HBOT..... that's something that I have in the back of my mind for Katera, too.

Patti, mom to Katera

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Hi,We are still going crazy here. It has almost been 2 months and wehaven't gotten good results yet. I have decided to follow the book andforget the dietitian. I really want this to work. Our dietitianstarted us with too many calories, lots more proteins then the bookrecommends as a high and our start up was not like the book recommended.I switched his proteins to 1.5 per kilo. is 17 months old andweighs 24 pounds 9 ounces, which is 35% on the growth chart. He is 323/4 inches long- which is 55% on the charts. He looks chubby. Hisactivity level is very small. He rolls and does push ups, andoccasionally stands in his walker. According to the book his cal perkilo were to be 75% of 90 if his activity level is average. Ourdietitian started us at 875. We dropped to 775 after 3 weeks because hegained 1.25 pounds. When we increased his ratio to 3.5 his seizuresdoubled. We went back down to 3:1 with some relief. We have switchedhim to 6 meals a day because of his refusal to eat and dropped another100 calories.Before we started the diet Nick was in ketosis because I added cream andprotein to his meals to help his weight loss. He was consuming 675calories ( according to the dietitian after viewing a 3 day meal log).He was having seizures 3 times a day.It has been 2 days and we are seeing more positive behavior. He eatshis meals instead of spitting it out and whiny because he was forcefed. Plus, I have company and they say they can't believe thedifference in how responsive he is. I don't notice as much because I amafter perfection. :-} One of his meals is ice cream made with egg yolksand cream. He loves it. It was taking me an hour to feed him each ofhis 4 meals before the change. He now eats his food in 20 minutes andseems to enjoy every bite. It is too early to tell if this is thechange we needed, but I am praying it is. We will find out when weweigh him Thurs. if it is too few calories. We are back down toseizures 5 times a day instead of 9 with the higher ratio.We are going to do Hyperbaric oxygen in August.Dianna "The Ketogenic Diet....a realistic treatment option, NOT just a last resort!" List is for parent to parent support only. It is important to get medical advice from a professional keto team! Subscribe: ketogenic-subscribe Unsubscribe: ketogenic-unsubscribe

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Patty,

We got back our BHB from when Nick was on the 3.5:1. It was 7.93.

My neuro was happy with that but Nick's seizures increased at that level.

I thought 4-6 was good. Any thoughts?

Dianna

Patti wrote:

Hi.... The

only thing I can think of might be his weight...... our dietician states

that they have the best seizure control for the kids that are down around

the 25th %ile for weight. Maybe he needs to lose some more? Is he still

on any meds? Sounds like you have done a good thing by going to six meals

a day. It's a good sign that he is accepting his food more readily. If

he was already in ketosis before you really started the diet, just with

an increase in fats and proteins, it really makes me wonder. Maybe because

he is so young, the diet will work differently for him and he doesn't need

the higher ratio? I know that Nan's son, Sevi, seems to need a lower ratio

for best control ..... and he started the diet fairly young. Keep hanging

in there! And good luck with the HBOT..... that's something that I have

in the back of my mind for Katera, too. Patti,

mom to Katera

Still fine tuning

Hi,

We are still going crazy here. It has almost been 2 months and

we

haven't gotten good results yet. I have decided to follow the

book and

forget the dietitian. I really want this to work. Our dietitian

started us with too many calories, lots more proteins then the book

recommends as a high and our start up was not like the book recommended.

I switched his proteins to 1.5 per kilo. is 17 months

old and

weighs 24 pounds 9 ounces, which is 35% on the growth chart.

He is 32

3/4 inches long- which is 55% on the charts. He looks chubby.

His

activity level is very small. He rolls and does push ups, and

occasionally stands in his walker. According to the book

his cal per

kilo were to be 75% of 90 if his activity level is average. Our

dietitian started us at 875. We dropped to 775 after 3 weeks

because he

gained 1.25 pounds. When we increased his ratio to 3.5 his seizures

doubled. We went back down to 3:1 with some relief. We

have switched

him to 6 meals a day because of his refusal to eat and dropped

another

100 calories.

Before we started the diet Nick was in ketosis because I added cream

and

protein to his meals to help his weight loss. He was consuming

675

calories ( according to the dietitian after viewing a 3 day meal

log).

He was having seizures 3 times a day.

It has been 2 days and we are seeing more positive behavior.

He eats

his meals instead of spitting it out and whiny because he was force

fed. Plus, I have company and they say they can't believe the

difference in how responsive he is. I don't notice as much because

I am

after perfection. :-} One of his meals is ice cream made with

egg yolks

and cream. He loves it. It was taking me an hour to feed

him each of

his 4 meals before the change. He now eats his food in 20 minutes

and

seems to enjoy every bite. It is too early to tell if this is

the

change we needed, but I am praying it is. We will find out when

we

weigh him Thurs. if it is too few calories. We are back down

to

seizures 5 times a day instead of 9 with the higher ratio.

We are going to do Hyperbaric oxygen in August.

Dianna

"The Ketogenic Diet....a realistic treatment option, NOT just

a last resort!"

List is for parent to parent support only.

It is important to get medical advice from a professional keto team!

Subscribe: ketogenic-subscribe

Unsubscribe: ketogenic-unsubscribe

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