Question regarding relationships with nursing

[Guest guest]

Hi guys...when in Virginia, I worked very hard to create a close

relationship with nursing and being recognized as the nutrition expert

in our facility. Now, I am back to square one and fighting for this

again. How do you address issues when nurses take on the nutrition

education rather than calling you, as RDs? Frequently, the information

is incorrect yet they fight fight fight and I get ganged up upon by the

" higher ups " in nursing and get told I am not working as a team. Any

ideas? ARGH

Collier, RD/LD

Clinical Nutrition Manager

Midland Memorial Hospital

2200 West Illinois

Midland, TX 79701

leslie.collier@...

(fax)

(pager)

" Dance like no one is watching, eat like someone is! "

[Guest guest]

,

I find " killing the with kindness " usually gets them on my side and takes the

territorialness (is that a word?)out of the relationship. I generally approach

the nurse and let her know that I realize how busy they are with their duties

and I would love to lighten their load by completing the nutrition education. I

also take the time to touch base with the primary nurse after an educational

session with a patient, let them know what was emphasized and what points they

can continue to repeat to the patient. This way, we are " co teaching " , I set

the educational parameters and do the initial education while the nurse feels

part of the team by reinforcing the information. Now they expect and rely on me

to do the teaching.

Good Luck,

Cece

---- Original message ----

>Date: Wed, 2 Dec 2009 09:36:22 -0600

>From: rd-usa (on behalf of " Collier "

)

>Subject: Question regarding relationships with nursing

>To: <rd-usa >

>

>

>

> Hi guys...when in Virginia, I worked very hard to

> create a close

> relationship with nursing and being recognized as

> the nutrition expert

> in our facility. Now, I am back to square one and

> fighting for this

> again. How do you address issues when nurses take on

> the nutrition

> education rather than calling you, as RDs?

> Frequently, the information

> is incorrect yet they fight fight fight and I get

> ganged up upon by the

> " higher ups " in nursing and get told I am not

> working as a team. Any

> ideas? ARGH

>

> Collier, RD/LD

>

> Clinical Nutrition Manager

>

> Midland Memorial Hospital

>

> 2200 West Illinois

>

> Midland, TX 79701

>

> leslie.collier@...

>

>

>

>

> (fax)

>

> (pager)

>

> " Dance like no one is watching, eat like someone

> is! "

>

> [Non-text portions of this message have been

> removed]

>

>

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[Guest guest]

I've tried this tactic as well. Not so much luck. I'll keep at it.

Thanks.

Collier, RD/LD

Clinical Nutrition Manager

Midland Memorial Hospital

2200 West Illinois

Midland, TX 79701

leslie.collier@...

(fax)

(pager)

" Dance like no one is watching, eat like someone is! "

From: rd-usa [mailto:rd-usa ] On Behalf

Of Cece Ohmart

Sent: Wednesday, December 02, 2009 12:28 PM

To: rd-usa

Subject: Re: Question regarding relationships with nursing

,

I find " killing the with kindness " usually gets them on my side and

takes the territorialness (is that a word?)out of the relationship. I

generally approach the nurse and let her know that I realize how busy

they are with their duties and I would love to lighten their load by

completing the nutrition education. I also take the time to touch base

with the primary nurse after an educational session with a patient, let

them know what was emphasized and what points they can continue to

repeat to the patient. This way, we are " co teaching " , I set the

educational parameters and do the initial education while the nurse

feels part of the team by reinforcing the information. Now they expect

and rely on me to do the teaching.

Good Luck,

Cece

---- Original message ----

>Date: Wed, 2 Dec 2009 09:36:22 -0600

>From: rd-usa <mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com> (on

behalf of " Collier " <leslie.collier@...

<mailto:leslie.collier%40midland-memorial.com> >)

>Subject: Question regarding relationships with nursing

>To: <rd-usa <mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com> >

>

>

>

> Hi guys...when in Virginia, I worked very hard to

> create a close

> relationship with nursing and being recognized as

> the nutrition expert

> in our facility. Now, I am back to square one and

> fighting for this

> again. How do you address issues when nurses take on

> the nutrition

> education rather than calling you, as RDs?

> Frequently, the information

> is incorrect yet they fight fight fight and I get

> ganged up upon by the

> " higher ups " in nursing and get told I am not

> working as a team. Any

> ideas? ARGH

>

> Collier, RD/LD

>

> Clinical Nutrition Manager

>

> Midland Memorial Hospital

>

> 2200 West Illinois

>

> Midland, TX 79701

>

> leslie.collier@...

<mailto:leslie.collier%40midland-memorial.com>

> <mailto:leslie.collier@...

<mailto:leslie.collier%40midland-memorial.com> >

>

>

>

> (fax)

>

> (pager)

>

> " Dance like no one is watching, eat like someone

> is! "

>

> [Non-text portions of this message have been

> removed]

>

>

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[Guest guest]

I've tried this tactic as well. Not so much luck. I'll keep at it.

Thanks.

Collier, RD/LD

Clinical Nutrition Manager

Midland Memorial Hospital

2200 West Illinois

Midland, TX 79701

leslie.collier@...

(fax)

(pager)

" Dance like no one is watching, eat like someone is! "

From: rd-usa [mailto:rd-usa ] On Behalf

Of Cece Ohmart

Sent: Wednesday, December 02, 2009 12:28 PM

To: rd-usa

Subject: Re: Question regarding relationships with nursing

,

I find " killing the with kindness " usually gets them on my side and

takes the territorialness (is that a word?)out of the relationship. I

generally approach the nurse and let her know that I realize how busy

they are with their duties and I would love to lighten their load by

completing the nutrition education. I also take the time to touch base

with the primary nurse after an educational session with a patient, let

them know what was emphasized and what points they can continue to

repeat to the patient. This way, we are " co teaching " , I set the

educational parameters and do the initial education while the nurse

feels part of the team by reinforcing the information. Now they expect

and rely on me to do the teaching.

Good Luck,

Cece

---- Original message ----

>Date: Wed, 2 Dec 2009 09:36:22 -0600

>From: rd-usa <mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com> (on

behalf of " Collier " <leslie.collier@...

<mailto:leslie.collier%40midland-memorial.com> >)

>Subject: Question regarding relationships with nursing

>To: <rd-usa <mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com> >

>

>

>

> Hi guys...when in Virginia, I worked very hard to

> create a close

> relationship with nursing and being recognized as

> the nutrition expert

> in our facility. Now, I am back to square one and

> fighting for this

> again. How do you address issues when nurses take on

> the nutrition

> education rather than calling you, as RDs?

> Frequently, the information

> is incorrect yet they fight fight fight and I get

> ganged up upon by the

> " higher ups " in nursing and get told I am not

> working as a team. Any

> ideas? ARGH

>

> Collier, RD/LD

>

> Clinical Nutrition Manager

>

> Midland Memorial Hospital

>

> 2200 West Illinois

>

> Midland, TX 79701

>

> leslie.collier@...

<mailto:leslie.collier%40midland-memorial.com>

> <mailto:leslie.collier@...

<mailto:leslie.collier%40midland-memorial.com> >

>

>

>

> (fax)

>

> (pager)

>

> " Dance like no one is watching, eat like someone

> is! "

>

> [Non-text portions of this message have been

> removed]

>

>

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[Guest guest]

This would be a serious liability for the nurses giving wrong and their own

bias medical nutrition therapy. I would go to the Medical Director first and

the Patient Care Committee...or whatever it is called at your facility!

Administration and Legal Department should be involved!

On Wed, Dec 2, 2009 at 10:36 AM, Collier <

leslie.collier@...> wrote:

>

>

> Hi guys...when in Virginia, I worked very hard to create a close

> relationship with nursing and being recognized as the nutrition expert

> in our facility. Now, I am back to square one and fighting for this

> again. How do you address issues when nurses take on the nutrition

> education rather than calling you, as RDs? Frequently, the information

> is incorrect yet they fight fight fight and I get ganged up upon by the

> " higher ups " in nursing and get told I am not working as a team. Any

> ideas? ARGH

>

> Collier, RD/LD

>

> Clinical Nutrition Manager

>

> Midland Memorial Hospital

>

> 2200 West Illinois

>

> Midland, TX 79701

>

> leslie.collier@...<leslie.collier%40midland-memorial.com>

>

<mailto:leslie.collier@...<leslie.collier%40midland-memorial.co\

m>>

>

>

>

>

> (fax)

>

> (pager)

>

> " Dance like no one is watching, eat like someone is! "

>

>

[Guest guest]

Why do you just call your work " Nutrition Education " ? Have you implemented

the Nutrition Care Process and Medical Nutrition Therapy?

On Wed, Dec 2, 2009 at 1:27 PM, Cece Ohmart wrote:

>

>

> ,

> I find " killing the with kindness " usually gets them on my side and takes

> the territorialness (is that a word?)out of the relationship. I generally

> approach the nurse and let her know that I realize how busy they are with

> their duties and I would love to lighten their load by completing the

> nutrition education. I also take the time to touch base with the primary

> nurse after an educational session with a patient, let them know what was

> emphasized and what points they can continue to repeat to the patient. This

> way, we are " co teaching " , I set the educational parameters and do the

> initial education while the nurse feels part of the team by reinforcing the

> information. Now they expect and rely on me to do the teaching.

>

> Good Luck,

> Cece

>

> ---- Original message ----

> >Date: Wed, 2 Dec 2009 09:36:22 -0600

> >From: rd-usa <rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com> (on behalf of

> " Collier "

<leslie.collier@...<leslie.collier%40midland-memorial.com>

> >)

> >Subject: Question regarding relationships with nursing

> >To: <rd-usa <rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com>>

> >

> >

> >

> > Hi guys...when in Virginia, I worked very hard to

> > create a close

> > relationship with nursing and being recognized as

> > the nutrition expert

> > in our facility. Now, I am back to square one and

> > fighting for this

> > again. How do you address issues when nurses take on

> > the nutrition

> > education rather than calling you, as RDs?

> > Frequently, the information

> > is incorrect yet they fight fight fight and I get

> > ganged up upon by the

> > " higher ups " in nursing and get told I am not

> > working as a team. Any

> > ideas? ARGH

> >

> > Collier, RD/LD

> >

> > Clinical Nutrition Manager

> >

> > Midland Memorial Hospital

> >

> > 2200 West Illinois

> >

> > Midland, TX 79701

> >

> > leslie.collier@...<leslie.collier%40midland-memorial.com>

> >

<mailto:leslie.collier@...<leslie.collier%40midland-memorial.co\

m>

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > (fax)

> >

> > (pager)

> >

> > " Dance like no one is watching, eat like someone

> > is! "

> >

> > [Non-text portions of this message have been

> > removed]

> >

> >

> This message is intended for the use of the addressee only and may contain

> information that is privileged and confidential. If you are not the intended

> recipient of this message, be notified that any dissemination or use of this

> message is strictly prohibited. Un-intended transmission does not constitute

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> received this message in error, please delete all copies of the message and

> its attachments and notify the sender immediately. Thank you.

>

>

>

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[Guest guest]

Why do you just call your work " Nutrition Education " ? Have you implemented

the Nutrition Care Process and Medical Nutrition Therapy?

On Wed, Dec 2, 2009 at 1:27 PM, Cece Ohmart wrote:

>

>

> ,

> I find " killing the with kindness " usually gets them on my side and takes

> the territorialness (is that a word?)out of the relationship. I generally

> approach the nurse and let her know that I realize how busy they are with

> their duties and I would love to lighten their load by completing the

> nutrition education. I also take the time to touch base with the primary

> nurse after an educational session with a patient, let them know what was

> emphasized and what points they can continue to repeat to the patient. This

> way, we are " co teaching " , I set the educational parameters and do the

> initial education while the nurse feels part of the team by reinforcing the

> information. Now they expect and rely on me to do the teaching.

>

> Good Luck,

> Cece

>

> ---- Original message ----

> >Date: Wed, 2 Dec 2009 09:36:22 -0600

> >From: rd-usa <rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com> (on behalf of

> " Collier "

<leslie.collier@...<leslie.collier%40midland-memorial.com>

> >)

> >Subject: Question regarding relationships with nursing

> >To: <rd-usa <rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com>>

> >

> >

> >

> > Hi guys...when in Virginia, I worked very hard to

> > create a close

> > relationship with nursing and being recognized as

> > the nutrition expert

> > in our facility. Now, I am back to square one and

> > fighting for this

> > again. How do you address issues when nurses take on

> > the nutrition

> > education rather than calling you, as RDs?

> > Frequently, the information

> > is incorrect yet they fight fight fight and I get

> > ganged up upon by the

> > " higher ups " in nursing and get told I am not

> > working as a team. Any

> > ideas? ARGH

> >

> > Collier, RD/LD

> >

> > Clinical Nutrition Manager

> >

> > Midland Memorial Hospital

> >

> > 2200 West Illinois

> >

> > Midland, TX 79701

> >

> > leslie.collier@...<leslie.collier%40midland-memorial.com>

> >

<mailto:leslie.collier@...<leslie.collier%40midland-memorial.co\

m>

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > (fax)

> >

> > (pager)

> >

> > " Dance like no one is watching, eat like someone

> > is! "

> >

> > [Non-text portions of this message have been

> > removed]

> >

> >

> This message is intended for the use of the addressee only and may contain

> information that is privileged and confidential. If you are not the intended

> recipient of this message, be notified that any dissemination or use of this

> message is strictly prohibited. Un-intended transmission does not constitute

> waiver of attorney-client privilege or any other privilege. If you have

> received this message in error, please delete all copies of the message and

> its attachments and notify the sender immediately. Thank you.

>

>

>

--

Thanks In Advance, Weaver MS RD LD Medical Nutritionist/Medical

Assistant http://www.linkedin.com/pub/6/833/688

http://www.mdrdtherapy.comMedifast Take Shape For Life Chocolate Weigh

http://www.victoriaweavermsrdld.tsfl.com Phone

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