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I have a right UU and only a right kidney. As far as I know, those

are my only anomalies.

Becki

In a message dated 1/14/2002 10:31:46 PM Eastern Standard Time,

kschmitt@... writes:

> he said that 1/3 of women with MA

> have auditory defects, and that there is also a frequent association

> with urinary tract anomalies. I'm curious...do any of you have these

> problems as well?

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I have a right UU and only a right kidney. As far as I know, those

are my only anomalies.

Becki

In a message dated 1/14/2002 10:31:46 PM Eastern Standard Time,

kschmitt@... writes:

> he said that 1/3 of women with MA

> have auditory defects, and that there is also a frequent association

> with urinary tract anomalies. I'm curious...do any of you have these

> problems as well?

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I have a right UU and only a right kidney. As far as I know, those

are my only anomalies.

Becki

In a message dated 1/14/2002 10:31:46 PM Eastern Standard Time,

kschmitt@... writes:

> he said that 1/3 of women with MA

> have auditory defects, and that there is also a frequent association

> with urinary tract anomalies. I'm curious...do any of you have these

> problems as well?

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I was doing some internet research tonight and found a doctor's

posting that I hadn't seen before...he said that 1/3 of women with MA

have auditory defects, and that there is also a frequent association

with urinary tract anomalies. I'm curious...do any of you have these

problems as well? I know you'd know it if you had an auditory

problem, but what about urinary? I'm curious to know if my RE will

do testing for this when I see him.

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As far as I know, I don't have any of those problems,

although I have always had to pee all the time (right

after eating or drinking) and I always said that was

why I stayed slim, because everything went right

through me...lol! And recently, I had a bladder

infection, but think it is because of the attemps of

placing a catheter in " There " to do an HSG. It is

interesting though isn't it, about these other

abnormalities?! -Amy W.

--- mom2sammyd wrote:

> I was doing some internet research tonight and found

> a doctor's

> posting that I hadn't seen before...he said that 1/3

> of women with MA

> have auditory defects, and that there is also a

> frequent association

> with urinary tract anomalies. I'm curious...do any

> of you have these

> problems as well? I know you'd know it if you had

> an auditory

> problem, but what about urinary? I'm curious to

> know if my RE will

> do testing for this when I see him.

>

>

>

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As far as I know, I don't have any of those problems,

although I have always had to pee all the time (right

after eating or drinking) and I always said that was

why I stayed slim, because everything went right

through me...lol! And recently, I had a bladder

infection, but think it is because of the attemps of

placing a catheter in " There " to do an HSG. It is

interesting though isn't it, about these other

abnormalities?! -Amy W.

--- mom2sammyd wrote:

> I was doing some internet research tonight and found

> a doctor's

> posting that I hadn't seen before...he said that 1/3

> of women with MA

> have auditory defects, and that there is also a

> frequent association

> with urinary tract anomalies. I'm curious...do any

> of you have these

> problems as well? I know you'd know it if you had

> an auditory

> problem, but what about urinary? I'm curious to

> know if my RE will

> do testing for this when I see him.

>

>

>

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I haven't heard of the auditory defects, but as soon as I was

diagnosed with my MA, I was sent for an IVP (intravenous pyleogram)

to check my kidneys. Apparently, the renal system develops around the

same time so if you have a uterine anomaly, often there are anomalies

of the kidneys - you might have only one, or they might be hanging

out in weird places. I have both kidneys. The docs wanted to know

more in case I had surgery at any time - they didn't want someone to

accidentally cut into a kidney.

Everyone I've seen on this journey, RE, nurses, OB, technician for

u/s, peri, all asked if I'd had the IVP.

Tara

> I was doing some internet research tonight and found a doctor's

> posting that I hadn't seen before...he said that 1/3 of women with

MA

> have auditory defects, and that there is also a frequent

association

> with urinary tract anomalies. I'm curious...do any of you have

these

> problems as well? I know you'd know it if you had an auditory

> problem, but what about urinary? I'm curious to know if my RE will

> do testing for this when I see him.

>

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I haven't heard of the auditory defects, but as soon as I was

diagnosed with my MA, I was sent for an IVP (intravenous pyleogram)

to check my kidneys. Apparently, the renal system develops around the

same time so if you have a uterine anomaly, often there are anomalies

of the kidneys - you might have only one, or they might be hanging

out in weird places. I have both kidneys. The docs wanted to know

more in case I had surgery at any time - they didn't want someone to

accidentally cut into a kidney.

Everyone I've seen on this journey, RE, nurses, OB, technician for

u/s, peri, all asked if I'd had the IVP.

Tara

> I was doing some internet research tonight and found a doctor's

> posting that I hadn't seen before...he said that 1/3 of women with

MA

> have auditory defects, and that there is also a frequent

association

> with urinary tract anomalies. I'm curious...do any of you have

these

> problems as well? I know you'd know it if you had an auditory

> problem, but what about urinary? I'm curious to know if my RE will

> do testing for this when I see him.

>

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<<I was doing some internet research tonight and found a doctor's

posting that I hadn't seen before...he said that 1/3 of women with MA

have auditory defects, and that there is also a frequent association

with urinary tract anomalies. I'm curious...do any of you have these

problems as well? I know you'd know it if you had an auditory

problem, but what about urinary? I'm curious to know if my RE will

do testing for this when I see him.>>

,

Congrats on doing your homework . . . isn't it cool how we get bonuses like

hearing defects? Not!!!!

Last spring we had a bit of a discussion about auditory defects, and if you

run a search on the Müllerian Anomalies archives, you'll find a study

abstract and some discussion about hearing problems and MAs.

I think 1/3 is an exaggerated figure. And these hearing problems tend to

crop up mainly in women who have assymetric problems, like UU, but I also

read that even women with septate defects can have hearing loss. *I* have

some hearing loss and can't hear for beans in crowded situations. My

hearing problem is notable enough that kids used to tease me about being

" dense. " I also have a third nipple, which is also associated with MAs.

You'd be surprised at what other things are associated with MAs.

will back me up on this, and probably has already responded to you. :-)

One of the theories about associated defects is that when the embryo is only

days old, there is a disruption in some " somites " (the segments that form

vertebrae and other segmental featurs of the body), and as the embryo

develops, the disruptions manifest themselves in widely divergent parts of

the body, like the lower limbs and head.

I don't think REs routinely do this sort of testing, since their focus is

pretty narrow, but I'm sure they do know about this stuff.

--

Beth

SU

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<<I was doing some internet research tonight and found a doctor's

posting that I hadn't seen before...he said that 1/3 of women with MA

have auditory defects, and that there is also a frequent association

with urinary tract anomalies. I'm curious...do any of you have these

problems as well? I know you'd know it if you had an auditory

problem, but what about urinary? I'm curious to know if my RE will

do testing for this when I see him.>>

,

Congrats on doing your homework . . . isn't it cool how we get bonuses like

hearing defects? Not!!!!

Last spring we had a bit of a discussion about auditory defects, and if you

run a search on the Müllerian Anomalies archives, you'll find a study

abstract and some discussion about hearing problems and MAs.

I think 1/3 is an exaggerated figure. And these hearing problems tend to

crop up mainly in women who have assymetric problems, like UU, but I also

read that even women with septate defects can have hearing loss. *I* have

some hearing loss and can't hear for beans in crowded situations. My

hearing problem is notable enough that kids used to tease me about being

" dense. " I also have a third nipple, which is also associated with MAs.

You'd be surprised at what other things are associated with MAs.

will back me up on this, and probably has already responded to you. :-)

One of the theories about associated defects is that when the embryo is only

days old, there is a disruption in some " somites " (the segments that form

vertebrae and other segmental featurs of the body), and as the embryo

develops, the disruptions manifest themselves in widely divergent parts of

the body, like the lower limbs and head.

I don't think REs routinely do this sort of testing, since their focus is

pretty narrow, but I'm sure they do know about this stuff.

--

Beth

SU

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<<I was doing some internet research tonight and found a doctor's

posting that I hadn't seen before...he said that 1/3 of women with MA

have auditory defects, and that there is also a frequent association

with urinary tract anomalies. I'm curious...do any of you have these

problems as well? I know you'd know it if you had an auditory

problem, but what about urinary? I'm curious to know if my RE will

do testing for this when I see him.>>

,

Congrats on doing your homework . . . isn't it cool how we get bonuses like

hearing defects? Not!!!!

Last spring we had a bit of a discussion about auditory defects, and if you

run a search on the Müllerian Anomalies archives, you'll find a study

abstract and some discussion about hearing problems and MAs.

I think 1/3 is an exaggerated figure. And these hearing problems tend to

crop up mainly in women who have assymetric problems, like UU, but I also

read that even women with septate defects can have hearing loss. *I* have

some hearing loss and can't hear for beans in crowded situations. My

hearing problem is notable enough that kids used to tease me about being

" dense. " I also have a third nipple, which is also associated with MAs.

You'd be surprised at what other things are associated with MAs.

will back me up on this, and probably has already responded to you. :-)

One of the theories about associated defects is that when the embryo is only

days old, there is a disruption in some " somites " (the segments that form

vertebrae and other segmental featurs of the body), and as the embryo

develops, the disruptions manifest themselves in widely divergent parts of

the body, like the lower limbs and head.

I don't think REs routinely do this sort of testing, since their focus is

pretty narrow, but I'm sure they do know about this stuff.

--

Beth

SU

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<<I know you'd know it if you had an auditory

> problem, but what about urinary? I'm curious to know if my RE will

> do testing for this when I see him.>>

,

Sorry, I misunderstood this last question. Yes, an RE would be

interested in knowing about kidney anomalies. When I was being

evaluated for my SU, the US tech also checked to make sure that I had

two kidneys rather than one, or one big horseshoe kidney. It just

requires a quick look with the US on the lower back ribs.

Other things that can happen are double uereters (the tube that runs

from kidney to bladder), and ectopic placement of ureters or

urethra. A common problem is a urethra or ureter opening into the

vagina, which you probably would have figured out by now. :-) A

missing kidney is sneakier.

Good luck,

Beth

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We posted a while back about women with MA's and urinary/kidney problems. It

sounds pretty common, but the auditory defects is new to me. I don't have that

problem but I did have surgery when I was young because my urinary tract/tubes &

valves were deformed. It was fixed when I was 7, but I have constant UTI's.

Does anyone else have UTI's all the time. The doctor prescribed Bactrim post

coital, but that doesn't work. Cipro is the only thing that works, but that is

only temporary. I need to go to a Urologist before I float away from Cranberry

juice & water.

PS. I am supposed to have a MRI today, but I am still waiting a reply from my

insurance to make sure they are going to cover it. Talk about waiting to the

last minute. Idiots. If they don't reply, I will have to postpone the MRI.

BU or SU, ttc

----- and that there is also a frequent association

with urinary tract anomalies. I'm curious...do any of you have these

problems as well? I know you'd know it if you had an auditory

problem, but what about urinary?

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We posted a while back about women with MA's and urinary/kidney problems. It

sounds pretty common, but the auditory defects is new to me. I don't have that

problem but I did have surgery when I was young because my urinary tract/tubes &

valves were deformed. It was fixed when I was 7, but I have constant UTI's.

Does anyone else have UTI's all the time. The doctor prescribed Bactrim post

coital, but that doesn't work. Cipro is the only thing that works, but that is

only temporary. I need to go to a Urologist before I float away from Cranberry

juice & water.

PS. I am supposed to have a MRI today, but I am still waiting a reply from my

insurance to make sure they are going to cover it. Talk about waiting to the

last minute. Idiots. If they don't reply, I will have to postpone the MRI.

BU or SU, ttc

----- and that there is also a frequent association

with urinary tract anomalies. I'm curious...do any of you have these

problems as well? I know you'd know it if you had an auditory

problem, but what about urinary?

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We posted a while back about women with MA's and urinary/kidney problems. It

sounds pretty common, but the auditory defects is new to me. I don't have that

problem but I did have surgery when I was young because my urinary tract/tubes &

valves were deformed. It was fixed when I was 7, but I have constant UTI's.

Does anyone else have UTI's all the time. The doctor prescribed Bactrim post

coital, but that doesn't work. Cipro is the only thing that works, but that is

only temporary. I need to go to a Urologist before I float away from Cranberry

juice & water.

PS. I am supposed to have a MRI today, but I am still waiting a reply from my

insurance to make sure they are going to cover it. Talk about waiting to the

last minute. Idiots. If they don't reply, I will have to postpone the MRI.

BU or SU, ttc

----- and that there is also a frequent association

with urinary tract anomalies. I'm curious...do any of you have these

problems as well? I know you'd know it if you had an auditory

problem, but what about urinary?

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I know this isn't exactly the same thing, but I have a whole bunch of

problems on my right side:

UD with malformed tiny uterus on rt

incomplete formation of rt eye ord (leading to blindness in that eye)

cartligenic tumor in rt ulna (arm)

sinus malformations, rt side of face

venous abnormaties, rt side of brain

I know this is completely different than what you're asking but

periodically I like to throw it all out there :-)

27, UD

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I know this isn't exactly the same thing, but I have a whole bunch of

problems on my right side:

UD with malformed tiny uterus on rt

incomplete formation of rt eye ord (leading to blindness in that eye)

cartligenic tumor in rt ulna (arm)

sinus malformations, rt side of face

venous abnormaties, rt side of brain

I know this is completely different than what you're asking but

periodically I like to throw it all out there :-)

27, UD

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Oops ...

Forgot to mention that I have had two mds mention the concurrance of

kidney and ear structural abnormalities. The fact is, we don't know

enough yet about MAs and what causes them. While the baby is

developing in the uterus, kidneys, the urogenital tract and the

auditory system all develop at the same time. It could be a virus mom

gets, or a gene that doesn't express the right chemical during that

time or different things for different babies! But that's why they

are often looked at together!

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Oops ...

Forgot to mention that I have had two mds mention the concurrance of

kidney and ear structural abnormalities. The fact is, we don't know

enough yet about MAs and what causes them. While the baby is

developing in the uterus, kidneys, the urogenital tract and the

auditory system all develop at the same time. It could be a virus mom

gets, or a gene that doesn't express the right chemical during that

time or different things for different babies! But that's why they

are often looked at together!

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>>I need to go to a Urologist before I float away from Cranberry

>>juice & water.

Hey Tracey!

I can't remember where you live, but would it be possible for your to

see a gyno-urologist? It takes a bit of hunting to track them down,

but I work in a urologist's office and one of those would be awesome

to see. Alot of what urologists do is vasectomies and prostate

problems, so you'd be much better off with someone who always works

with your kind of plumbing :-)

Good luck!

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, Could you please send me the posting about the auditory defects?

Any other articles about relation between MA and auditory defects? Please

send them over to me.

Thanks.

Rita

In a message dated 1/14/2002 10:32:01 PM Eastern Standard Time,

kschmitt@... writes:

> I was doing some internet research tonight and found a doctor's

> posting that I hadn't seen before...he said that 1/3 of women with MA

>

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I also only have one kidney - the left. My dr told me that they

develop at the same time as the repro organs and so anomalies of both

are common. No auditory problems - well, unless you talk to my DH :))

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I also only have one kidney - the left. My dr told me that they

develop at the same time as the repro organs and so anomalies of both

are common. No auditory problems - well, unless you talk to my DH :))

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