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Theresa,

I can tell you what they did during these scans, but hopefully someone

more knowledgeable can explain the whys and wherefores.

Body scan: I laid on a long narrow table, as still as possible. They

lowered a machine within centimeters of my face/head and left it there

for about 10 minutes. (kept my eyes closed to avoid claustrophobia).

When the timer went off they moved it to the neck and upper chest area

and did the same thing, but left it there longer--about 15 minutes.

Once again: don't move.

Then moved the machine to my chest/abdominal area and kept it there

about 10 minutes. The last part was 10 minutes over my bladder/ovarian

area.

Picture of sparkles showed up on the computer screen.

Pinpoint scan: I laid on an even narrower table and they positioned a

funnel-shaped machine at the neck area of my body and I had to lay there

very still. The funnel just had a little opening on it. If I remember

right (you know this only happened yesterday and once I knew they were

looking at " something " I seemed to lose track of time.) the moved it to

a couple of areas on my neck, but not for as long as the body scan.

Uptake scan: I sat up in a chair and they put a dental-type x-ray

machine up to my neck. It stayed there for a little bit, then I had to

hold a piece of lead (4x4x1/2 " ) in front of my neck while they put the

machine up there. Don't ask my why. I should have asked more but

wasn't thinking of that right then.

Now, if anyone can translate all this, that would be great! Connie

Theresa Missey wrote:

> Can anyone describe the types of scans noted in a

> previous letter?

> 4 part body scan

> Pinpoint scan

> Uptake Scan

> All I've ever known is full body scan.

> Thanks

> Theresa

>

>

> =====

> Theresa

> Missouri, south of St Louis

> pap thyca w/node involvement, parathyroid replacement

> pt 1975

> tt 1998, 3 hypo scans, 1 thyrogen scan

> scheduled for thryogen scan 6/15/01

>

> __________________________________________________

>

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Hi all

I think I can add a little to this:

> Body scan: I laid on a long narrow table, as still as possible. They

> lowered a machine within centimeters of my face/head and left it there

> for about 10 minutes. (kept my eyes closed to avoid claustrophobia).

> When the timer went off they moved it to the neck and upper chest area

> and did the same thing, but left it there longer--about 15 minutes.

> Once again: don't move.

> Then moved the machine to my chest/abdominal area and kept it there

> about 10 minutes. The last part was 10 minutes over my bladder/ovarian

> area.

> Picture of sparkles showed up on the computer screen.

This is a scan with a gamma-camera. The detector is a limited size and cannot

" see " the whole body at once, hence the need to photograph a part at a time.

The sparkles are the individual gamma rays which build up to make the

picture. Time and quality of picture are at odds here, you could get a better

picture if you waited longer, but 1 hour total is a realistic time.

> Pinpoint scan: I laid on an even narrower table and they positioned a

> funnel-shaped machine at the neck area of my body and I had to lay there

> very still. The funnel just had a little opening on it. If I remember

> right (you know this only happened yesterday and once I knew they were

> looking at " something " I seemed to lose track of time.) the moved it to

> a couple of areas on my neck, but not for as long as the body scan.

This sounds like a gamma camera with a pinhole colimator (the colimator is

the camera's equivalent of a lens). This produces a magnified, higher

resolution picture of a much smaller area. Sensitivity is very, very low and

it can only be done on an area of significant uptake.

>

> Uptake scan: I sat up in a chair and they put a dental-type x-ray

> machine up to my neck. It stayed there for a little bit, then I had to

> hold a piece of lead (4x4x1/2 " ) in front of my neck while they put the

> machine up there. Don't ask my why. I should have asked more but

> wasn't thinking of that right then.

I suspect that this is not a scan, it's a measurement. The device you held

against your neck is a scintillation probe (a radiation detector - similar

to but completely fifferent from a geiger counter). The first measurement

would have picked up radiation from the whole neck, but also the salivary

glands and any radioactivity further afield, such as in the chest or stomach.

The second measurement would remove most of the radioactivity from the

thyroid area, thus giving a count for 'other areas'. Thyroid only counts is

then just a subtraction of the two numbers.

Ian Adam

Radiation Safety Officer

The Institute of Cancer Research

Cotswold Road

Sutton

Surrey

SM2 5NG

Tel: 020 8722 4250

Fax: 020 8722 4300

EMail: iana@...

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Hi all

I think I can add a little to this:

> Body scan: I laid on a long narrow table, as still as possible. They

> lowered a machine within centimeters of my face/head and left it there

> for about 10 minutes. (kept my eyes closed to avoid claustrophobia).

> When the timer went off they moved it to the neck and upper chest area

> and did the same thing, but left it there longer--about 15 minutes.

> Once again: don't move.

> Then moved the machine to my chest/abdominal area and kept it there

> about 10 minutes. The last part was 10 minutes over my bladder/ovarian

> area.

> Picture of sparkles showed up on the computer screen.

This is a scan with a gamma-camera. The detector is a limited size and cannot

" see " the whole body at once, hence the need to photograph a part at a time.

The sparkles are the individual gamma rays which build up to make the

picture. Time and quality of picture are at odds here, you could get a better

picture if you waited longer, but 1 hour total is a realistic time.

> Pinpoint scan: I laid on an even narrower table and they positioned a

> funnel-shaped machine at the neck area of my body and I had to lay there

> very still. The funnel just had a little opening on it. If I remember

> right (you know this only happened yesterday and once I knew they were

> looking at " something " I seemed to lose track of time.) the moved it to

> a couple of areas on my neck, but not for as long as the body scan.

This sounds like a gamma camera with a pinhole colimator (the colimator is

the camera's equivalent of a lens). This produces a magnified, higher

resolution picture of a much smaller area. Sensitivity is very, very low and

it can only be done on an area of significant uptake.

>

> Uptake scan: I sat up in a chair and they put a dental-type x-ray

> machine up to my neck. It stayed there for a little bit, then I had to

> hold a piece of lead (4x4x1/2 " ) in front of my neck while they put the

> machine up there. Don't ask my why. I should have asked more but

> wasn't thinking of that right then.

I suspect that this is not a scan, it's a measurement. The device you held

against your neck is a scintillation probe (a radiation detector - similar

to but completely fifferent from a geiger counter). The first measurement

would have picked up radiation from the whole neck, but also the salivary

glands and any radioactivity further afield, such as in the chest or stomach.

The second measurement would remove most of the radioactivity from the

thyroid area, thus giving a count for 'other areas'. Thyroid only counts is

then just a subtraction of the two numbers.

Ian Adam

Radiation Safety Officer

The Institute of Cancer Research

Cotswold Road

Sutton

Surrey

SM2 5NG

Tel: 020 8722 4250

Fax: 020 8722 4300

EMail: iana@...

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