Guest guest Posted September 7, 2002 Report Share Posted September 7, 2002 Ahh, thanks for telling me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 7, 2002 Report Share Posted September 7, 2002 I was wanting to take it to help with fibromyolgia, migtranes and insomnia, but I had to wait 8 weeks because I was trying to adjust my t3 levels with 7-keto first. Ang > What are you two taking this for? > Jo > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 7, 2002 Report Share Posted September 7, 2002 I was wanting to take it to help with fibromyolgia, migtranes and insomnia, but I had to wait 8 weeks because I was trying to adjust my t3 levels with 7-keto first. Ang > What are you two taking this for? > Jo > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 7, 2002 Report Share Posted September 7, 2002 Helps with mood swings, cravings, and all the terrible symptoms of PMS....San > What are you two taking this for? > Jo > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 7, 2002 Report Share Posted September 7, 2002 Hi Ang, > I was wanting to take it to help with fibromyolgia, migtranes and > insomnia, but I had to wait 8 weeks because I was trying to adjust my > t3 levels with 7-keto first. > Ang Ok, I know what insomnia and migranes are. I'm almost afraid to ask though... What are fibromayolgia, t3 and 7-keto? -- See my weight loss results at: http://www.thedietdiary.com/diet/myProgress/ResultsPlan1.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 7, 2002 Report Share Posted September 7, 2002 I know this was directed at Ang but I thought I'd hop in and help. T3 levels are involved with Thyroid problems. Fibromyalgia is a very difficult disease. Here is some info:...San Fibromyalgia Provided by A.D.A.M. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- ---------- Overview | Treatment | Images ---------------------------------------------------------------------- ---------- Definition A common rheumatic syndrome indicating widespread pain in fibrous tissues, muscles, tendons, and other connective tissues, resulting in painful muscles. Some of the other problems that are common in fibromyalgia are fatigue, morning stiffness, sleep problems, headaches, numbness in hands and feet, and anxiety. Diagnosis of fibromyalgia includes a history of a least three months of widespread pain, and pain and tenderness in at least 11 of 18 tender-point sites. These tender-point sites include fibrous tissue or muscles of the: neck shoulders chest rib cage lower back thighs knees arms (elbows) buttocks The overwhelming characteristic of fibromyalgia is long-standing pain at defined tender points, which are not the same as trigger points. Tender points hurt only when pressed. Trigger points can be tender locally and lead to traveling or spreading pain. The soft-tissue pain is described as deep-aching, radiating, gnawing, shooting or burning, and ranges from mild to severe. Fibromyalgia sufferers tend to waken with body aches and stiffness. Pain improves during the day and often increases again during the evening. Pain can increase with activity; cold, damp weather; anxiety; and stress. Alternative names Fibromyositis; Fibrositis; Myofasical pain syndrome Causes, incidence, and risk factors The cause of this disorder is unknown. Possible causes can include physical or emotional trauma. One hypothesis suggests that the disorder may be associated with changes in craniofacial and skeletal muscle metabolism, such as decreased blood flow, which could cause chronic fatigue and weakness. Another hypothesis is that an infectious microbe, such as a virus, triggers the illness. At this point, no virus or microbe has been identified. Pilot studies have shown a possible inherited tendency toward the disease. The disorder has an increased frequency among women 20 to 50 years old. The incidence is 9 out of 1,000 people. Prevention There is no proven prevention for this disorder. However, over the years, the treatment and management of the disease has improved. Symptoms multiple tender areas (muscle and joint pain) on the back of the neck, shoulders, sternum, lower back, hip, shin, elbows, knees. fatigue sleep disturbances body aches reduced exercise tolerance chronic facial muscle pain or aching Signs and tests A number of tests may be done to rule out other disorders. An examination reveals multiple tender areas on the back of the neck, shoulders, sternum, lower back, hip, shin, elbows, or knees. Sometimes, laboratory and X-ray tests are done to help confirm the diagnosis. The tests will also rule out other conditions that may have similar symptoms. Other underlying ailments, such as chronic fatigue syndrome, irritable bowel syndrome, and rheumatoid arthritis, can also be present. New patients should be checked for these underlying conditions as well as fibromyalgia. > Hi Ang, > > > I was wanting to take it to help with fibromyolgia, migtranes and > > insomnia, but I had to wait 8 weeks because I was trying to adjust my > > t3 levels with 7-keto first. > > Ang > > Ok, I know what insomnia and migranes are. I'm almost afraid to ask > though... What are fibromayolgia, t3 and 7-keto? > > > > -- > See my weight loss results at: > http://www.thedietdiary.com/diet/myProgress/ResultsPlan1.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 7, 2002 Report Share Posted September 7, 2002 Desquamation means to peel off in scales. Isn't it true that vitamin A toxicity is not of concern if the sources are natural (beta carotene from plant sources) rather than synthetic? Those symptoms really are common to so many disorders nowadays. But it's always wise to be careful about supplementation. Jo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 7, 2002 Report Share Posted September 7, 2002 Hi, You know, I was reading the list of symptoms San posted -- and I also remembered that Ang also has insomnia and migranes. I had just been a book about the dangers of vitamin supplements, and thought the symptoms sounded similar to those of Vitamin A overdoses. I found these pages describing the effects of overdoses: http://1stholistic.com/Nutrition/vkb/kb_vit_a.htm http://www.emedicine.com/emerg/topic638.htm The following are common symptoms of vitamin A overdose listed on that page: ---- Vitamin A Acute toxicity effects include headache, nausea, vomiting, drowsiness, and desquamation after 24 hours. Chronic toxicity affects the skin, mucous membranes, and the musculoskeletal and neurological systems. Skin and mucous membrane effects include erythema, eczema, pruritus, dry and cracked skin, conjunctivitis, palmar and plantar peeling, and alopecia. Musculoskeletal effects include pain and tenderness, particularly in the long bones of the upper and lower extremities, which may be exacerbated by exercise; epiphyseal capping and premature epiphyseal closure may occur in children. Neurological effects include frontal headache and blurred vision. Findings also include papilledema, hepatomegaly, ascites, erythematous dermatitis, or bulging fontanelle in infants. ---- Don't ask me what desquamation is..... But the musculoskeletal effects described overlap the fibromyalgia symptoms san sent. You also complained of headaches -- that's listed too. Some of the Vitamin E overdose symptoms also overlap the fibromyalgia symptoms. One of the pages described symptoms of A,D,E,B etc. overdoses. Anyway Ang, does your doctor know all the supplements you take? You should tell them so they can consider the possibility of vitamin overdoses and test you for those that seem likely. Some people have died from too much Vitamin A, D, or E. (Polar explorers died of Vitamin A overdose after eating polar bear liver-- so you can over dose on natural sources!) Pretty much any of the fat soluble vitamins can accumulate in the body and cause major problems. So, you should let your doctor know what vitamins and other supplements you are taking. Lucia -- lucia@... Lisle, Illinois Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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