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> Joanie,

>

> << Right now we dont have the long term studies result and if we did, there

> are so many variables to concider that I would be skepitcal of ANY results.

> >>

>

> Americans might now have the long term results but " in the late 1960's Lars

> Leksell M.D., a Swedish neurosurgeon at the Karolinska Institute in Stockhom

> pioneered the Gamma Knife. " This result would be true for the 60;s and not

now. Life styles have changed, doesages of the beam, position of the beam,

etc., so again I am very leary of ANY results from the 60's.

> My questions to you:

>

> When did you have the Gamma Knife? I had the GK in Nov 1999 to an right an.

Did you have side effects (paralysis,imbalance, memory loss)? I think

the only side effect I had is now my balance seems qorse. Ohhh I also

had a terrible right ear infection after the treatment. Dont think that

is realted to NF, but one never knows.

>

> If you had side effects was it temporary or permanent? The balance problems

seem to be permenant.

>

> Dr. Helenowski told me that the tumor swells after the radiation and that in

order to tell if there were any side effects you would need to wait a few months

for the swelling to go down. Did you have any symptoms during this time?Right

after my treatmenmt I was given a does of steroids to reduce this rteisk. That

is what my DR told me is standard procedure.

>

> Do you know of anyone else that had the Gamma Knife? Would they be willing to

talk with me? All I know are crew members that have had it. Some are good

reports somare are bad. It really is a lead of faith.

>

I say go for the GK. I hate the thought of MS. With GK I returned to

" normal " in say a few hours. I did have to stay over night, for

observation and my insurance would not pay unless I stayed over night.

GK may not be the way you want to go if you want to save hearing, but

heck I am stoned deaf in both ears, so I dont care. Marie is who I call

the radiation expert. She has researched this really good. For me I

made the decision in a mater of minutes. As I said I hate MS and my DR

knows I do very bad in MS, so he was not looking forward to that choice

by me.(the last MS was 22 hours long and my lungs collasped after the

surgery). Other have the same kind of horror stories.. write me me

again and dont deal bother that a question is asked. I am usually very

foward about how i feel and felt. I guess that is from being a research

pation at NIH and getiing asked zillions of questions and basically

having every oraface examined.

Joanie

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that thread I did not follow. I am sorry.

Joanie

& Ann Cross wrote:

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> Where were you Joanie when we where discussing the " NF2 Pill " and Barbara F

> statement about tests against NF2 Mouse models. ~|:o)

> .

> ***********

> you wrote

> >At least, to some degree, there is a cure for cancer

> > and not at the momet, I say at least 20 years, a cure for NF2. I dont

> > see a cure for NF2 for people that already have it, I see a cure for

> > the fetus, but not us.

>

> Re: Quality vs. Quantity

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> > Sally,

> >

> > I had GK, once. With DR. Hodge at University Hopsital in NY.

> > They have the ONLY GK machine in upstate NY.

> > So we MAYBE get cancer due to this, But you can, in rare forms, get

> > cancer from NF2. At least, to some degree, there is a cure for cancer

> > and not at the momet, I say at least 20 years, a cure for NF2. I dont

> > see a cure for NF2 for people that already have it, I see a cure for

> > the fetus, but not us.

> >

> > It all goes back to Jennettee's question, we have this, like it or not,

> > NOW decide on quality verses quanity.

> > Joanie

> >

> >

> >

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that thread I did not follow. I am sorry.

Joanie

& Ann Cross wrote:

>

> Where were you Joanie when we where discussing the " NF2 Pill " and Barbara F

> statement about tests against NF2 Mouse models. ~|:o)

> .

> ***********

> you wrote

> >At least, to some degree, there is a cure for cancer

> > and not at the momet, I say at least 20 years, a cure for NF2. I dont

> > see a cure for NF2 for people that already have it, I see a cure for

> > the fetus, but not us.

>

> Re: Quality vs. Quantity

>

> > Sally,

> >

> > I had GK, once. With DR. Hodge at University Hopsital in NY.

> > They have the ONLY GK machine in upstate NY.

> > So we MAYBE get cancer due to this, But you can, in rare forms, get

> > cancer from NF2. At least, to some degree, there is a cure for cancer

> > and not at the momet, I say at least 20 years, a cure for NF2. I dont

> > see a cure for NF2 for people that already have it, I see a cure for

> > the fetus, but not us.

> >

> > It all goes back to Jennettee's question, we have this, like it or not,

> > NOW decide on quality verses quanity.

> > Joanie

> >

> >

> >

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Sara wrote:

>I mean some people have horrid events

> happen in their life's do you ask them if they'd rather just call it quits

> and say do you wish you'd never been born. Nah, it's just a rough spot we

> have to over come. Everyone has a challenge of some sorts to deal with.

> I look at other people and see the stuff they have to deal with and thank

the

> Lord that he has given me the courage and willpower to get where I am

today

> for I have so much I want to accomplish yet

Hi Sara... I wasn't trying bring up this subject to mean anything about the

word " quitting " . I guess that's easy to interpret, which makes this subject

so confusing or not so confusing to some people.. When I was discussing this

very topic with a friend., very " quantity " , he also called it quitting at

first. Another question then quickly pops into my head.... " What exactly is

a person *quitting* by enjoying their life while they can? " I personally

don't see any quitting in that at all.

Have a blast in San Diego, Joanie!:)

Jennette

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Sara wrote:

>I mean some people have horrid events

> happen in their life's do you ask them if they'd rather just call it quits

> and say do you wish you'd never been born. Nah, it's just a rough spot we

> have to over come. Everyone has a challenge of some sorts to deal with.

> I look at other people and see the stuff they have to deal with and thank

the

> Lord that he has given me the courage and willpower to get where I am

today

> for I have so much I want to accomplish yet

Hi Sara... I wasn't trying bring up this subject to mean anything about the

word " quitting " . I guess that's easy to interpret, which makes this subject

so confusing or not so confusing to some people.. When I was discussing this

very topic with a friend., very " quantity " , he also called it quitting at

first. Another question then quickly pops into my head.... " What exactly is

a person *quitting* by enjoying their life while they can? " I personally

don't see any quitting in that at all.

Have a blast in San Diego, Joanie!:)

Jennette

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I agree with you Jennette. I dont equate, though I know it can,

quallity to " quiting " . I am a believer in the Hemlock Society, but I

have deided to enjoy my life NOW while I can. Hence I went to New

Zealand now, while I can see and appricate it instead whne I can barley

move. Jenntte has been a strong influence in me to go onb. This is a

compliement, REALLY. I did not think I could go on if I could not walk,

but I have seen her a with those GREAT walkers that allow you

to sit down. I have checked the out, not that I need one now. Medicare

will pay for half of it. So I see I do have a funture with a walker.

That is great. I mean I DO have a future.

Joanie who hopes to have a blast in San Dieago...thanks Jennett..hope

your Hawanian trip goes well.

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hi all,

it's a hard question... before my last operation that left me deaf with a

trc , i don't have a voice and in a weelchair i would say a quantity for

sure. i'm only 22 years old and right now i have no quality at all. i spent

most of the last year at the hospital, when i could choose between wait 6

month with a voice, a breathing and a walking between have this operation

done right now ,i choose now since it ment that i have a small chance not

to hurt my vocal cord. now i look back and i know it was the biggest mistake

of my life. i try to move on with my life, i think this is what make this

disorder so hard, everyone except you to go on with your life like nothing

has happened.it was the hardest year of my short life and i couldn't do it

without the help of my friends- that stayed with me totally since the nf2

started, and you all

what i want to say, that right now i choose quality vs quantity for sure

netta

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hi all,

it's a hard question... before my last operation that left me deaf with a

trc , i don't have a voice and in a weelchair i would say a quantity for

sure. i'm only 22 years old and right now i have no quality at all. i spent

most of the last year at the hospital, when i could choose between wait 6

month with a voice, a breathing and a walking between have this operation

done right now ,i choose now since it ment that i have a small chance not

to hurt my vocal cord. now i look back and i know it was the biggest mistake

of my life. i try to move on with my life, i think this is what make this

disorder so hard, everyone except you to go on with your life like nothing

has happened.it was the hardest year of my short life and i couldn't do it

without the help of my friends- that stayed with me totally since the nf2

started, and you all

what i want to say, that right now i choose quality vs quantity for sure

netta

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Netta,

I have read all your posts but I somehow did not realize your young age. My

daughter who has NF2 is 26 and very impacted. Yes, we too go for quality

because quantity is too unsure. For everyone it is, and for this disorder it

surely is. But since we can control the quality to a greater degree, we go

for it too. I, however, remain forever hopeful that some treatment will be

developed rapidly to slow the growth of these tumors. In my daughter they

are rampant and my heart breaks for all of you, especially when it interferes

with your as yet rather short lives. I will pray for you to get the quality

you seek and for all of us to see the treatment of this disorder in the near

future. Love, Vicki

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vici, thanks. netta

i I will pray for you to get the quality

>you seek and for all of us to see the treatment of this disorder in the

>near

>future.

>

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