Re: kirkmans transdermal glutathione lotion

[Guest guest]

Ruth,

I have glutathione suppositories for my son. The administration has

been unsuccessful. I have heard from friends that they heard great

things about increased langauge from raising glutathione level. I

have also heard that mercury toxic individuals have low glutathione

and because of this they have a high viral loads, EBV, CMV, HVV6

ect. and by increasing the glutathione level you are dealing w/ the

viruses. So if that is the case you are correcting a disfunction

caused by mercury and the benefits are lowing viral titers but I do

not know if this is true. But I am pretty sure your not chelating

out the mercury. I think I may get some of the lotion. One thing I

do believe. There are no coincidences!

Thanks for sharing your experience.

nne

> Hi..

> I'm Ruth (*Ann from the gfcf diet board)

> I've been a member of this group forever it seems, but I never post.

> I noticed some other people are using the transdermal glutathione

> lotion. I've been using it for about two months now on my son and

am

> loving it.

> First some background..

> My son is three and a half mod to high functioning Autism. He's

been

> gfcf since he turned two.

> At the beginning of the year I chelated him myself six times. I

used

> ALA and Thorne Captomer. I used Andy Cutler's protocal.

> I stopped doing it because by the third day my son would always

have

> some really bad, scary reactions. Especially when using ALA.

> I wanted to wait and do it with his doctor on board.

> I've since realized my son has MAJOR sulfur oxidation problems

> (probably caused by the mercury)

> He can't tolerate sulfites at all..MSM makes him crazy.

> Anyway...I started trying the glutathione lotion and I can't

believe

> how well he is doing on it. I can't give it to him every day. If I

do

> he starts to have the negative symptoms again. But he does great

> getting it every other day.

> At bedtime I spritz his back down with a mixture of Epsom Salts and

> purified water and then I rub the lotion into his legs and feet.

> I can't get over how much he is starting to talk all of a sudden.

> I realize it could be just because he is three and a half now and

> it's time he naturally started talking more. But it sure is a major

> coincidence then.

> I was wondering...could the transdermal glutathione actually be

> chelating out some of the mercury?

> If it's possible...I'd much rather do it this way than go back to

the

> DMSA and ALA.

> Anyone else having the same results with the lotion?

[Guest guest]

> I've since realized my son has MAJOR sulfur oxidation problems.

Ruth, How did you determine this? We were using the cream and thought

it was helping but I was advised to stop. Any ideas on how to figure

out the sulfur oxidation problems would be appreciated. Mike

-- In @y..., " nomadicrat " <nomadicrat@y...> wrote:

> Hi..

> I'm Ruth (*Ann from the gfcf diet board)

> I've been a member of this group forever it seems, but I never post.

> I noticed some other people are using the transdermal glutathione

> lotion. I've been using it for about two months now on my son and am

> loving it.

> First some background..

> My son is three and a half mod to high functioning Autism. He's been

> gfcf since he turned two.

> At the beginning of the year I chelated him myself six times. I used

> ALA and Thorne Captomer. I used Andy Cutler's protocal.

> I stopped doing it because by the third day my son would always have

> some really bad, scary reactions. Especially when using ALA.

> I wanted to wait and do it with his doctor on board.

> I've since realized my son has MAJOR sulfur oxidation problems

> (probably caused by the mercury)

> He can't tolerate sulfites at all..MSM makes him crazy.

> Anyway...I started trying the glutathione lotion and I can't believe

> how well he is doing on it. I can't give it to him every day. If I

do

> he starts to have the negative symptoms again. But he does great

> getting it every other day.

> At bedtime I spritz his back down with a mixture of Epsom Salts and

> purified water and then I rub the lotion into his legs and feet.

> I can't get over how much he is starting to talk all of a sudden.

> I realize it could be just because he is three and a half now and

> it's time he naturally started talking more. But it sure is a major

> coincidence then.

> I was wondering...could the transdermal glutathione actually be

> chelating out some of the mercury?

> If it's possible...I'd much rather do it this way than go back to

the

> DMSA and ALA.

> Anyone else having the same results with the lotion?

[Guest guest]

Ruth - I'm new to this group. I have two ASD sons, who is 7 yo and

who is 5 yo. My oldest will not longer take any supplements by

mouth, no matter what I do. Can you please tell me where you get your

glutathione suppositories? We've tried the lotion, but it broke him

out. And, because he's also Asthmatic, we tried an inhalation version,

but the stuff still smells like rotten eggs. A suppository may work

for him.

Thanks!

Sylvia

[ ] Re: kirkmans transdermal glutathione lotion

Ruth,

I have glutathione suppositories for my son. The administration has

been unsuccessful. I have heard from friends that they heard great

things about increased langauge from raising glutathione level. I

have also heard that mercury toxic individuals have low glutathione

and because of this they have a high viral loads, EBV, CMV, HVV6

ect. and by increasing the glutathione level you are dealing w/ the

viruses. So if that is the case you are correcting a disfunction

caused by mercury and the benefits are lowing viral titers but I do

not know if this is true. But I am pretty sure your not chelating

out the mercury. I think I may get some of the lotion. One thing I

do believe. There are no coincidences!

Thanks for sharing your experience.

nne

> Hi..

> I'm Ruth (*Ann from the gfcf diet board)

> I've been a member of this group forever it seems, but I never post.

> I noticed some other people are using the transdermal glutathione

> lotion. I've been using it for about two months now on my son and

am

> loving it.

> First some background..

> My son is three and a half mod to high functioning Autism. He's

been

> gfcf since he turned two.

> At the beginning of the year I chelated him myself six times. I

used

> ALA and Thorne Captomer. I used Andy Cutler's protocal.

> I stopped doing it because by the third day my son would always

have

> some really bad, scary reactions. Especially when using ALA.

> I wanted to wait and do it with his doctor on board.

> I've since realized my son has MAJOR sulfur oxidation problems

> (probably caused by the mercury)

> He can't tolerate sulfites at all..MSM makes him crazy.

> Anyway...I started trying the glutathione lotion and I can't

believe

> how well he is doing on it. I can't give it to him every day. If I

do

> he starts to have the negative symptoms again. But he does great

> getting it every other day.

> At bedtime I spritz his back down with a mixture of Epsom Salts and

> purified water and then I rub the lotion into his legs and feet.

> I can't get over how much he is starting to talk all of a sudden.

> I realize it could be just because he is three and a half now and

> it's time he naturally started talking more. But it sure is a major

> coincidence then.

> I was wondering...could the transdermal glutathione actually be

> chelating out some of the mercury?

> If it's possible...I'd much rather do it this way than go back to

the

> DMSA and ALA.

> Anyone else having the same results with the lotion?

=======================================================

[Guest guest]

Sylvia wrote:

> Ruth - I'm new to this group. I have two ASD sons, who is 7 yo and

> who is 5 yo. My oldest will not longer take any supplements by

> mouth, no matter what I do. Can you please tell me where you get your

> glutathione suppositories? We've tried the lotion, but it broke him

> out. And, because he's also Asthmatic, we tried an inhalation version,

> but the stuff still smells like rotten eggs. A suppository may work

> for him.

>

> Thanks!

> Sylvia

>

Sylvia

thats sounds like something you might see if a good pharmacist will compound

for you.

OR find availabe for you.

[Guest guest]

Thanks . We do have a couple of local compound pharmacies -

traditional and alternative. I'll check around. But if there is

already a pharmacy out there that is doing this, I'd love to know about

them.

Sylvia

Re: [ ] Re: kirkmans transdermal glutathione

lotion

Sylvia wrote:

> Ruth - I'm new to this group. I have two ASD sons, who is 7 yo

and

> who is 5 yo. My oldest will not longer take any supplements by

> mouth, no matter what I do. Can you please tell me where you get your

> glutathione suppositories? We've tried the lotion, but it broke him

> out. And, because he's also Asthmatic, we tried an inhalation

version,

> but the stuff still smells like rotten eggs. A suppository may work

> for him.

>

> Thanks!

> Sylvia

>

Sylvia

thats sounds like something you might see if a good pharmacist will

compound

for you.

OR find availabe for you.

[Guest guest]

How did you know your son had major sulfation problems? My son doesn't eat

any of the foods that contain sulfur for me to find out. He also gets real

hyper if I add epsom salts to his bath. Any ideas will be appreciated.

Thanks, R

[Guest guest]

> He also gets real

> hyper if I add epsom salts to his bath. Any ideas will

> be appreciated.

>

> Thanks, R

Hi ,

Maybe your son needs calcium? or to just stop giving him other magnesium

in other supplements?

I don't know if he does... it's just an idea... I don't see why would he

get hyper from sulfate, so it must be the magnesium?

Valentina

[Guest guest]

& Jack Rawlings wrote:

> How did you know your son had major sulfation problems? My son doesn't eat

> any of the foods that contain sulfur for me to find out. He also gets real

> hyper if I add epsom salts to his bath. Any ideas will be appreciated.

> Thanks, R

That to me, sounds like an indicator your son might.

[Guest guest]

,

My son gets real hyper with epsom salt baths. The sulfation also

triggers viruses. My son has tested positive for stealth virus,

similiar to CMV, herpes type of virus. He has benefited greatly from

acyclovir, 4x's aday and I recently started monolaurin. You might

want to check these things out.

nne

--- In @y..., " & Jack Rawlings " <jamaraw@m...>

wrote:

> How did you know your son had major sulfation problems? My son

doesn't eat

> any of the foods that contain sulfur for me to find out. He also

gets real

> hyper if I add epsom salts to his bath. Any ideas will be

appreciated.

> Thanks, R

[Guest guest]

Sylvia,

I got my glutathione suppositories from my NAET practitioner. She

may send you some. Just don't mention chelation. You can e-mail her

at pat14001@...

nne

> > Hi..

> > I'm Ruth (*Ann from the gfcf diet board)

> > I've been a member of this group forever it seems, but I never

post.

> > I noticed some other people are using the transdermal glutathione

> > lotion. I've been using it for about two months now on my son and

> am

> > loving it.

> > First some background..

> > My son is three and a half mod to high functioning Autism. He's

> been

> > gfcf since he turned two.

> > At the beginning of the year I chelated him myself six times. I

> used

> > ALA and Thorne Captomer. I used Andy Cutler's protocal.

> > I stopped doing it because by the third day my son would always

> have

> > some really bad, scary reactions. Especially when using ALA.

> > I wanted to wait and do it with his doctor on board.

> > I've since realized my son has MAJOR sulfur oxidation problems

> > (probably caused by the mercury)

> > He can't tolerate sulfites at all..MSM makes him crazy.

> > Anyway...I started trying the glutathione lotion and I can't

> believe

> > how well he is doing on it. I can't give it to him every day. If

I

> do

> > he starts to have the negative symptoms again. But he does great

> > getting it every other day.

> > At bedtime I spritz his back down with a mixture of Epsom Salts

and

> > purified water and then I rub the lotion into his legs and feet.

> > I can't get over how much he is starting to talk all of a sudden.

> > I realize it could be just because he is three and a half now and

> > it's time he naturally started talking more. But it sure is a

major

> > coincidence then.

> > I was wondering...could the transdermal glutathione actually be

> > chelating out some of the mercury?

> > If it's possible...I'd much rather do it this way than go back to

> the

> > DMSA and ALA.

> > Anyone else having the same results with the lotion?

>

>

> =======================================================

>

[Guest guest]

A couple people asked how I knew my son had problems with sulfur

oxidation.

First I want to mention he has a problem with sulfites, not sulfates.

The way I fist started realizing he had a problem was when I realized

he had a problem with phenols. They make him really hyper. And I

started to use the Epsom Salts bath to get sulfates into him. The

Epsom Salts calm my son down a-lot.

Then I tried stuff like MSM and he reacted horribly to it. Plus, he

reacted horrible to the ALA, DMSA chelation. One of his eyes would

turn right in. He would act as if he was losing his mind, frightened

of everything, grabbing his head. This happned with the MSM too.

Through some online detective work I found out some kids with Autism

cannot do sulfites or they overload on them easily (probably because

of the mercury poisoning, I read it screws up the whole sulfur

oxidation/detox proces in there bodies)

So now we avoid high sulfur foods(oinions, garlic, cabbage)along with

high phenol foods (especially bananas, they make him crazy hyper)

And if and when I go back to chelating him, I'm going to take it

really slow. Really low doses. Maybe even only one day a week or two

days every two weeks, something like that. Although I'm not sure if

one day a week would do anything but mix things up.

That's why I was thinking this lotion is a great idea. It seems to be

working well for him. And if it's helping his body to naturally detox

the mercury all the better. I just wish I could afford one of those

mini steam room type machines to help him sweat it out too.

[Guest guest]

--- In @y..., " & Jack Rawlings " <jamaraw@m...>

wrote:

> I noticed my son has a problem with phenols also,he gets very hyper

if he

> has caffeine or chocolate!His eye(right) constantly turns in.Are

you saying

> these kids shouldn't use dmsa or ala?What will happen if they do?

> R

No..I'm not saying that. I mean, eventually,somehow you've got to get

the mercury out right?

I'm just a mom. I'm not a doctor or a scientist or anything.

I'm just personally uncomfortable with using these drugs/supplements

for my son because he is so sensative to them.

I've heard people who have problems detoxing sulfites can have

seizures and such if they get too much of a build up of them. So that

scares me.

My son's doctors attitude is that any kid with mercury tox problems

is going to have problems with sulfites. But it will get better over

time with chelating. He feels when we start chelating my son

officially (not sure if I'm going to do it though) That he avoid

sulfur containing foods and we just go slowly, with minute doses.

I personally feel that if this glutothione lotion is doing it, even

if it's doing it at a really slow pace. I'd rather go with that.

But that's just me.

[Guest guest]

I noticed my son has a problem with phenols also,he gets very hyper if he

has caffeine or chocolate!His eye(right) constantly turns in.Are you saying

these kids shouldn't use dmsa or ala?What will happen if they do?

R

[Guest guest]

I cannot find the transdermal glutathione lotion on the kirkmans website.

Where is it located?

Al.

[ ] Re: kirkmans transdermal glutathione lotion

> A couple people asked how I knew my son had problems with sulfur

> oxidation.

>

> First I want to mention he has a problem with sulfites, not sulfates.

>

> The way I fist started realizing he had a problem was when I realized

> he had a problem with phenols. They make him really hyper. And I

> started to use the Epsom Salts bath to get sulfates into him. The

> Epsom Salts calm my son down a-lot.

>

> Then I tried stuff like MSM and he reacted horribly to it. Plus, he

> reacted horrible to the ALA, DMSA chelation. One of his eyes would

> turn right in. He would act as if he was losing his mind, frightened

> of everything, grabbing his head. This happned with the MSM too.

>

> Through some online detective work I found out some kids with Autism

> cannot do sulfites or they overload on them easily (probably because

> of the mercury poisoning, I read it screws up the whole sulfur

> oxidation/detox proces in there bodies)

>

> So now we avoid high sulfur foods(oinions, garlic, cabbage)along with

> high phenol foods (especially bananas, they make him crazy hyper)

>

> And if and when I go back to chelating him, I'm going to take it

> really slow. Really low doses. Maybe even only one day a week or two

> days every two weeks, something like that. Although I'm not sure if

> one day a week would do anything but mix things up.

>

> That's why I was thinking this lotion is a great idea. It seems to be

> working well for him. And if it's helping his body to naturally detox

> the mercury all the better. I just wish I could afford one of those

> mini steam room type machines to help him sweat it out too.

>

>

> =======================================================

>

[Guest guest]

--- In @y..., " Al and Kris Asker " <askeralkris@e...>

wrote:

> I cannot find the transdermal glutathione lotion on the kirkmans

website.

> Where is it located?

>

> Al.

It's in with their chelation product line.

[Guest guest]

> I personally feel that if this glutothione lotion is doing it,

even

> if it's doing it at a really slow pace. I'd rather go with that.

> But that's just me.

Can someone tell me where to find this lotion? Does Kirkman's have a

website?

TIA

Deanna

Mom to 5 1/2 and 3 going on 30!