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In a message dated 03-02-01 3:20:41 PM Eastern Standard Time,

shellwipp@... writes:

This should be end stage liver disease.

Under neurologic it's asterixis.

acetic fluid, not acidic fluid.

I'm at a disadvantage here because I can't hear it myself, but I'll take a

stab and say " Dr --- suggested paracentesis. Up to 4 liters were obtained

(something like that.. as I said, I can't hear it) Usually the tests run on

tapped fluid are: cell count, acid-fast bacilli, fungus, culture and

sensitivity, protein, LDH, amylase, specific gravity, albumin, total

protein.. The list goes on and on :) ... They don't always run all, but

that's a list to get you started :) Hope this helps. :)

<< This pt. has N stage liver disease.

Neurologic: Cranial nerves II-XII grossly intact. No *hyster-ricksis*.

Plan: Dr. ?? suggested paracentesis up to 4 liters and with an s/l *L*

acidic fluid. (Sounds like he is saying *L* here but maybe he is just saying

acidic fluid.) We will get a set of fluid off *four or 4*, a *cell count

culture and sensitivities*, (Is this the name of one test or is it three

different tests that should be seperated with commas?) albumin, total

protein, and LDH.

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In a message dated 03-02-01 3:20:41 PM Eastern Standard Time,

shellwipp@... writes:

<< We will get a set of fluid off *four or 4*, >>

Oops, forgot this one.. I think this means they will test " four out of four "

liters. :)

Jan " Typing is my life "

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In a message dated 03-02-01 3:20:41 PM Eastern Standard Time,

shellwipp@... writes:

<< This pt. has N stage liver disease. >>

By the way.. You may hear this alot.. End stage liver disease, end stage

kidney disease, end stage pulmonary disease.. etc.. Means the patient is

terminal.

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In a message dated 03-02-01 5:11:04 PM Eastern Standard Time,

mgrant@... writes:

<< Jan, That was a very good answer, the one thing that needs to be changed

is it is ascetic fluid (adjective for ascites), not acetic which is a form of

vinegar. MG >>

Actually we were both wrong.. According to Dorlands 29th Edition it's

ascitic. :)

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In a message dated 03-02-01 5:23:41 PM Eastern Standard Time,

villejoin@... writes:

<< Per Stedman's:

ascitic: relating to ascites >>

Stedmans and Dorlands are in agreement :) Can you believe I've been typing

it acetic fluid for .. well 14 years now... and nobody ever told me

different? Who says you can't teach an old dog new tricks? LOL Thanks,

Margaret, for making me look it up. I'm so humiliated that I've been typing

it wrong all this time. :/ I made it a macro on my work computer so next

time if I forget and type acetic it will expand to ascitic <hanging head in

shame>

Jan " Typing is my life "

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In a message dated 03-02-01 5:37:29 PM Eastern Standard Time,

dlyon@... writes:

<< Oh you guys!! I swear to Pete!!!!

This is all very amusing... :) >>

You know it's a curse of this job that after a while you get so picky that

you want to make sure the words are spelled just so and you have to have

documentation to back it up. Do the words anally retentive ring a bell?

ROFL.

Jan " Typing is my life "

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In a message dated 03-02-01 5:49:30 PM Eastern Standard Time,

villejoin@... writes:

<< ROFL!!!! So true, so true!!!

Dawn :o) >>

I just thought of a good name for this.. " The Dictionary Wars " LOLOL.

Thanks to whoever asked about this to begin with. I had to delete that

macro I made for acetic when it occurred to me that acetic is correct when

they paint the cervix for removing condylomata. oh well.. I'll figure

something out :)

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In a message dated 3/2/01 3:13:03 PM Mountain Standard Time,

MGrant@... writes:

<< Jan, That was a very good answer, the one thing that needs to be changed

is it is ascetic fluid (adjective for ascites), not acetic which is a form of

vinegar. MG >>

I believe it is ascitic fluid...like ascites, only with the c. It's ascitic

in Stedman's GI/GU words.

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Jan, That was a very good answer, the one thing that needs to be changed is it

is ascetic fluid (adjective for ascites), not acetic which is a form of vinegar.

MG

>>> 03/02/01 03:30PM >>>

In a message dated 03-02-01 3:20:41 PM Eastern Standard Time,

shellwipp@... writes:

This should be end stage liver disease.

Under neurologic it's asterixis.

acetic fluid, not acidic fluid.

I'm at a disadvantage here because I can't hear it myself, but I'll take a

stab and say " Dr --- suggested paracentesis. Up to 4 liters were obtained

(something like that.. as I said, I can't hear it) Usually the tests run on

tapped fluid are: cell count, acid-fast bacilli, fungus, culture and

sensitivity, protein, LDH, amylase, specific gravity, albumin, total

protein.. The list goes on and on :) ... They don't always run all, but

that's a list to get you started :) Hope this helps. :)

<< This pt. has N stage liver disease.

Neurologic: Cranial nerves II-XII grossly intact. No *hyster-ricksis*.

Plan: Dr. ?? suggested paracentesis up to 4 liters and with an s/l *L*

acidic fluid. (Sounds like he is saying *L* here but maybe he is just saying

acidic fluid.) We will get a set of fluid off *four or 4*, a *cell count

culture and sensitivities*, (Is this the name of one test or is it three

different tests that should be seperated with commas?) albumin, total

protein, and LDH.

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Per Stedman's:

ascitic: relating to ascites

Dawn :o)

shellwipp@... wrote:

> This pt. has N stage liver disease.

>

> Neurologic: Cranial nerves II-XII grossly intact. No

> *hyster-ricksis*.

>

> Plan: Dr. ?? suggested paracentesis up to 4 liters and with an s/l

> *L*

> acidic fluid. (Sounds like he is saying *L* here but maybe he is just

> saying

> acidic fluid.) We will get a set of fluid off *four or 4*, a *cell

> count

> culture and sensitivities*, (Is this the name of one test or is it

> three

> different tests that should be seperated with commas?) albumin, total

> protein, and LDH.

>

> TIA, I appreciate it!

> ~MT :-D

>

>

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Jan, You're right, that's what I get for trying to do it off the top of my head,

without double checking the dictionary. It is ascitic. Thanks, MG

>>> 03/02/01 05:16PM >>>

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mgrant@... writes:

<< Jan, That was a very good answer, the one thing that needs to be changed

is it is ascetic fluid (adjective for ascites), not acetic which is a form of

vinegar. MG >>

Actually we were both wrong.. According to Dorlands 29th Edition it's

ascitic. :)

Jan " Typing is my life "

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Oh you guys!! I swear to Pete!!!!

This is all very amusing... :)

Di..

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> In a message dated 03-02-01 5:23:41 PM Eastern Standard Time,

> villejoin@... writes:

>

> << Per Stedman's:

>

> ascitic: relating to ascites >>

>

> Stedmans and Dorlands are in agreement :) Can you believe I've been

typing

> it acetic fluid for .. well 14 years now... and nobody ever told me

> different? Who says you can't teach an old dog new tricks? LOL Thanks,

> Margaret, for making me look it up. I'm so humiliated that I've been

typing

> it wrong all this time. :/ I made it a macro on my work computer so next

> time if I forget and type acetic it will expand to ascitic <hanging head

in

> shame>

>

> Jan " Typing is my life "

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ROFL!!!! So true, so true!!!

Dawn :o)

JanTranscribes@... wrote:

> In a message dated 03-02-01 5:37:29 PM Eastern Standard Time,

> dlyon@... writes:

>

> << Oh you guys!! I swear to Pete!!!!

> This is all very amusing... :) >>

>

> You know it's a curse of this job that after a while you get so picky

> that

> you want to make sure the words are spelled just so and you have to

> have

> documentation to back it up. Do the words anally retentive ring a

> bell?

> ROFL.

>

> Jan " Typing is my life "

>

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Oh Butt Jan! You anally retending??? I feel like oscar goldman when it

comes to reading most of the posts... can you say fonetik?? :)

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> In a message dated 03-02-01 5:37:29 PM Eastern Standard Time,

> dlyon@... writes:

>

> << Oh you guys!! I swear to Pete!!!!

> This is all very amusing... :) >>

>

> You know it's a curse of this job that after a while you get so picky that

> you want to make sure the words are spelled just so and you have to have

> documentation to back it up. Do the words anally retentive ring a bell?

> ROFL.

>

> Jan " Typing is my life "

>

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Oh Butt Jan! You anally retending??? I feel like oscar goldman when it

comes to reading most of the posts... can you say fonetik?? :)

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> In a message dated 03-02-01 5:37:29 PM Eastern Standard Time,

> dlyon@... writes:

>

> << Oh you guys!! I swear to Pete!!!!

> This is all very amusing... :) >>

>

> You know it's a curse of this job that after a while you get so picky that

> you want to make sure the words are spelled just so and you have to have

> documentation to back it up. Do the words anally retentive ring a bell?

> ROFL.

>

> Jan " Typing is my life "

>

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In a message dated 3/2/01 10:26:37 PM Eastern Standard Time,

villejoin@... writes:

<< Actually, I have always done it end-stage...hyphenated. This should be

interesting, or shall I say more interesting...LOL Too fun!

Dawn :o) >>

I had replied about this but had inadvertently sent it to only one person

instead of reply all and it never made the board. Stedman's word books has

end-stage (with the hyphen) when it is before renal disease, cirrhosis, etc.

Peggy

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Speaking of doing things wrong, which I know I do, but when I was first

starting out as an MT. My boss who was an MT would type this doctor who

always started his notes w/the patient's condition and what was wrong w/them

and then he would always say colon. Well, for years she would type colon.

When I started doing this doctor, and he never mentioned anything about the

colon, I questioned it and she realized he was saying : as in the 2

dots....lol...just wanted to share. The doctor or the clinic never said a

word to her about it for all those years.

val

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Jan, Just make sure you make that macro for when it has to do with ascites.

Acetic acid (vinegar) is used for several things, including I believe to help

identify genital warts. Then of course there is ascetic, the way I made the

mistake of typing it, which we would probably not come across in medical

reports, which has to do with self-denial, austere, a person who leads a life of

strict self-denial, especially for religious reasons. Don't you just love all

these words that sound alike but mean totally different things.

This reminds me of the time that I put a note out to the people I worked with

asking if anyone knew if Betsy Hospital had changed its name to Betsy

Medical Center. One woman wrote back that she had called the hospital

and they have never used the name Betsy in their name and it was still ston

Memorial Hospital. These are two different hospitals, in counties very close to

each other. She has lived here all her life but had always typed just the one

and didn't even know that they were different. Oh the fun times we can have

with words. Margaret

>>> 03/02/01 05:31PM >>>

In a message dated 03-02-01 5:23:41 PM Eastern Standard Time,

villejoin@... writes:

<< Per Stedman's:

ascitic: relating to ascites >>

Stedmans and Dorlands are in agreement :) Can you believe I've been typing

it acetic fluid for .. well 14 years now... and nobody ever told me

different? Who says you can't teach an old dog new tricks? LOL Thanks,

Margaret, for making me look it up. I'm so humiliated that I've been typing

it wrong all this time. :/ I made it a macro on my work computer so next

time if I forget and type acetic it will expand to ascitic <hanging head in

shame>

Jan " Typing is my life "

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Jan, A friend's daughter was once told that she was a perfectionist at work and

anal retentive. She got so upset that it just ruined her whole day and she was

hard to get along with for awhile. My friend told her daughter that, " Margaret

would take that as a compliment, she's so perfectionistic and anal retentive at

work it isn't funny. " She then told me all about it, including what she had

said to the daughter, and I agreed and laughed about it. I just can't seem to

get away from trying to make it all perfect, wish I could sometimes so I would

quit driving myself nuts. Margaret

>>> 03/02/01 05:45PM >>>

In a message dated 03-02-01 5:37:29 PM Eastern Standard Time,

dlyon@... writes:

Do the words anally retentive ring a bell?

ROFL.

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Val, That one had me laughing so hard I started choking. Can't remember when I

laughed that hard. Reminds me of the type my supervisor had put out a question

for all of us to guess on for transcription week. At the end of the week, she

put up a note that said, " __________' guest was correct, she wins. " I didn't

come in until 3:30, so that had been posted all day. Of course, I had to go ask

her who this person's guest was that had won. She got so disgusted when she

realized that she had put guest instead of guess. Sometimes us peons just have

to tell our bosses when they are wrong. MG

>>> " Valpie " 03/02/01 07:09PM >>>

Speaking of doing things wrong, which I know I do, but when I was first

starting out as an MT. My boss who was an MT would type this doctor who

always started his notes w/the patient's condition and what was wrong w/them

and then he would always say colon. Well, for years she would type colon.

When I started doing this doctor, and he never mentioned anything about the

colon, I questioned it and she realized he was saying : as in the 2

dots....lol...just wanted to share. The doctor or the clinic never said a

word to her about it for all those years.

val

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Did anyone pick up on the fact that it's endstage

liver disease? Just curious! (or is it end stage?)

This string has been very amusing! Thanks!

It's good to know that I'm not the only one who

obsesses over words...

(PS-I forwarded a couple of the messages to

Chuck...maybe we can lure him back!)

--- Dawn Villejoin wrote:

> Per Stedman's:

>

> ascitic: relating to ascites

>

> Dawn :o)

>

> shellwipp@... wrote:

>

> > This pt. has N stage liver disease.

> >

> > Neurologic: Cranial nerves II-XII grossly intact.

> No

> > *hyster-ricksis*.

> >

> > Plan: Dr. ?? suggested paracentesis up to 4

> liters and with an s/l

> > *L*

> > acidic fluid. (Sounds like he is saying *L* here

> but maybe he is just

> > saying

> > acidic fluid.) We will get a set of fluid off

> *four or 4*, a *cell

> > count

> > culture and sensitivities*, (Is this the name of

> one test or is it

> > three

> > different tests that should be seperated with

> commas?) albumin, total

> > protein, and LDH.

> >

> > TIA, I appreciate it!

> > ~MT :-D

> >

> >

> > [Non-text portions of this message have been

> removed]

> >

> >

> >

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Actually, I have always done it end-stage...hyphenated. This should be

interesting, or shall I say more interesting...LOL Too fun!

Dawn :o)

wrote:

> Did anyone pick up on the fact that it's endstage

> liver disease? Just curious! (or is it end stage?)

>

> This string has been very amusing! Thanks!

>

> It's good to know that I'm not the only one who

> obsesses over words...

>

>

> (PS-I forwarded a couple of the messages to

> Chuck...maybe we can lure him back!)

>

> --- Dawn Villejoin wrote:

> > Per Stedman's:

> >

> > ascitic: relating to ascites

> >

> > Dawn :o)

> >

> > shellwipp@... wrote:

> >

> > > This pt. has N stage liver disease.

> > >

> > > Neurologic: Cranial nerves II-XII grossly intact.

> > No

> > > *hyster-ricksis*.

> > >

> > > Plan: Dr. ?? suggested paracentesis up to 4

> > liters and with an s/l

> > > *L*

> > > acidic fluid. (Sounds like he is saying *L* here

> > but maybe he is just

> > > saying

> > > acidic fluid.) We will get a set of fluid off

> > *four or 4*, a *cell

> > > count

> > > culture and sensitivities*, (Is this the name of

> > one test or is it

> > > three

> > > different tests that should be seperated with

> > commas?) albumin, total

> > > protein, and LDH.

> > >

> > > TIA, I appreciate it!

> > > ~MT :-D

> > >

> > >

> > > [Non-text portions of this message have been

> > removed]

> > >

> > >

> > >

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Margaret,

If you weren't such an anal-retentive perfectionist, where in the heck

would all us rookies get our answers?? hehehe

Diane

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>Jan, A friend's daughter was once told that she was a perfectionist at

>work and anal retentive. She got so upset that it just ruined her whole

>day and she was hard to get along with for awhile. My friend told her

>daughter that, " Margaret would take that as a compliment, she's so

>perfectionistic and anal retentive at work it isn't funny. " She then told

>me all about it, including what she had said to the daughter, and I agreed

>and laughed about it. I just can't seem to get away from trying to make

>it all perfect, wish I could sometimes so I would quit driving myself

>nuts. Margaret

>

> >>> 03/02/01 05:45PM >>>

>In a message dated 03-02-01 5:37:29 PM Eastern Standard Time,

>dlyon@... writes:

>

>Do the words anally retentive ring a bell?

>ROFL.

>

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In a message dated 3/2/01 8:19:20 PM Central Standard Time,

MGrant@... writes:

> I just can't seem to get away from trying to make it all perfect, wish I

> could sometimes so I would quit driving myself nuts.

Margaret,

Sounds like you are in the perfect business! I know I'm sure glad you are a

perfectionist, you have helped me out of a lot of jams.<G>

~MT :-D

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In a message dated 03-03-01 9:00:59 AM Eastern Standard Time,

shellwipp@... writes:

<< just can't seem to get away from trying to make it all perfect, wish I

> could sometimes so I would quit driving myself nuts.

Margaret,

Sounds like you are in the perfect business! I know I'm sure glad you are a

perfectionist, >>

I'm pretty sure perfectionism is listed in MT job qualifications :)

Jan " Typing is my life "

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