Using Extream Health to chelate

[Guest guest]

Is anyone out there using extream health to chelate? does anyone know if it is a

better chelator than DMAS? I used it for one month just to see, that was when we

hit mercury for the first time, then I went back to my DSMA route. Just

wondering. Cabbie

[Guest guest]

> Is anyone out there using extream health to chelate?

I hope not.

>does anyone

know if it is a better chelator than DMAS?

Not for lead or mercury.

>I used it for one month

just to see, that was when we hit mercury for the first time, then I

went back to my DSMA route. Just wondering. Cabbie

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Andy, thanks for your answer, but as for 'I hope not " could you please

explane a bit? There is a doctor in my town recomending it, we have no help

here and are searching for answers.......thanks

[ ] Re: Using Extream Health to chelate

>

> > Is anyone out there using extream health to chelate?

>

> I hope not.

>

> >does anyone

> know if it is a better chelator than DMAS?

>

> Not for lead or mercury.

>

> >I used it for one month

> just to see, that was when we hit mercury for the first time, then I

> went back to my DSMA route. Just wondering. Cabbie

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

At 08:43 AM 12/25/2001 -0600, you wrote:

>Andy, thanks for your answer, but as for 'I hope not " could you please

>explane a bit? There is a doctor in my town recomending it, we have no help

>here and are searching for answers.......thanks

>

dear mcbailey@...,

Please excuse me for now being Andy. I presume that " I hope not "

would refer to Andy's very low opinion of the Extreme Health product.

As far as I am aware (which is pretty far, BTW) Andy is really

ONLY in favor of using ALA, DMSA, and DMPS for chelation. And

MAYBE saunas. EVERY " product " that I have heard him comment on

the comment is negative, or perhaps uncertain (which is unusual)

or neutral (unusual). I'm trying not to generalize or exaggerarte

here --- a bit tough since my point is that IN GENERAL Andy

thinks these things are not chelators and not worthwhile.

You can look at the URL below for comments from Andy on some ohter

ones (I don't think Extreme Health is in there--um-- unless it is

" NDF " ??)

/files/ANDY_INDEX#other_chleatio

n_agents

regards,

Moria

[Guest guest]

Dear Moria, Thank you and you may answer my questions anytime you wish, I

learn much from you. As for finding extremehealth in the archives no such

luck that was why I was asking. I live in Mississippi and in the area I live

the autism group is laughing a chelation in general, saying people doing

this are wasting thier time and spending money that should go towards a

education for their childern. Not so in my case, I was blessed to get help

last year from Dr. Kartzinel and for us chleation was indeed needed. We are

using DMSA and have been pleased. several months ago I found extremehealth

and called and talked to them, as a result of my asking questions, I talked

to other parents using the product and they were very happy and getting good

results. Extreme health sent me a free bottle and paid for my hair sample,

pretty nice thing to do for some stranger just calling and asking questions.

I ask Dr. K about this product in October and he had never hear of it, but

told me the best way to test a product was us it and test the results. Well

I used it for a month, and low and behold on my next round of DMAS, I hit

mercury, that naturally was my goal. So I was stumped, did I hit mercury on

round 9 due to EH or was it going to happen anyway? I could just kick myself

for not doing a urine test at random before I did the round of DMSA, but I

didn't. Big error on my part.

what I am searching for like any parent is a easy way to chelate but get the

results we need. Last month I learned a gp in out area is recomending heavy

metal testing for autism, ppd, learning disorders, add, adhd and a few other

things. If the test comes back positive, he recomends extremehealth. I was

truly impressed because6 years ago when I yelled MERCURY, none listened and

I was laughted at and called crazy. It is for me refreshing to know someone

is at least looking into the toxic problem. If I tell parents I don't think

EH is a good product, I need to back up what I say and give then an

alternative and back up why I tell them to use it. so I am just trying to

educate myself as best I can

This has been a bit long winded, thanks for hearing me out. Happy holidays,

Cabbie

Re: [ ] Re: Using Extream Health to chelate

> At 08:43 AM 12/25/2001 -0600, you wrote:

> >Andy, thanks for your answer, but as for 'I hope not " could you please

> >explane a bit? There is a doctor in my town recomending it, we have no

help

> >here and are searching for answers.......thanks

> >

>

> dear mcbailey@...,

>

> Please excuse me for now being Andy. I presume that " I hope not "

> would refer to Andy's very low opinion of the Extreme Health product.

> As far as I am aware (which is pretty far, BTW) Andy is really

> ONLY in favor of using ALA, DMSA, and DMPS for chelation. And

> MAYBE saunas. EVERY " product " that I have heard him comment on

> the comment is negative, or perhaps uncertain (which is unusual)

> or neutral (unusual). I'm trying not to generalize or exaggerarte

> here --- a bit tough since my point is that IN GENERAL Andy

> thinks these things are not chelators and not worthwhile.

> You can look at the URL below for comments from Andy on some ohter

> ones (I don't think Extreme Health is in there--um-- unless it is

> " NDF " ??)

>

>

/files/ANDY_INDEX#other_chleatio

> n_agents

>

> regards,

> Moria

>

>

>

> =======================================================

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Cabbie,

> Thank you and you may answer my questions anytime you wish, I

>learn much from you.

thanks

>As for finding extremehealth in the archives no such

>luck that was why I was asking.

yep. no problem. It is not in ANDY_INDEX either. Oh-- the archive can

be quite a task to deal with. When you SEARCH it only searches the most

recent messages (a few weeks' worth). You can press NEXT to search the

next-farther-past ones. Then NEXT again, etc. Just in case you want

to try it. I can't really fault groups about this--- we have

over 35000 messages in the archive, and searcing the WHOLE thing would

be quite a problem as well.

> I live in Mississippi and in the area I live

>the autism group is laughing a chelation in general, saying people doing

>this are wasting thier time and spending money that should go towards a

>education for their childern.

Oh dear. Excuse me while I make " horrified " noises and faces

I don't mind if people are careful and if they are unknowing. But

MAKING FUN of it is quite another matter. What, they want their

kids to stay poisoned? ug.

> Not so in my case, I was blessed to get help

>last year from Dr. Kartzinel and for us chleation was indeed needed. We are

>using DMSA and have been pleased. several months ago I found extremehealth

>and called and talked to them, as a result of my asking questions, I talked

>to other parents using the product and they were very happy and getting good

>results. Extreme health sent me a free bottle and paid for my hair sample,

>pretty nice thing to do for some stranger just calling and asking questions.

>I ask Dr. K about this product in October and he had never hear of it, but

>told me the best way to test a product was us it and test the results. Well

>I used it for a month, and low and behold on my next round of DMAS, I hit

>mercury, that naturally was my goal. So I was stumped, did I hit mercury on

>round 9 due to EH or was it going to happen anyway? I could just kick myself

>for not doing a urine test at random before I did the round of DMSA, but I

>didn't. Big error on my part.

>what I am searching for like any parent is a easy way to chelate but get the

>results we need.

What, you don't find giving your kid DMSA at 3:30 AM easy? (that is a joke)

> Last month I learned a gp in out area is recomending heavy

>metal testing for autism, ppd, learning disorders, add, adhd and a few other

>things.

that does seem much more encouraging than (for example) " there is

nothing you can do, it is genetic " .

> If the test comes back positive, he recomends extremehealth.

You may also want to question his testing methods--- since testing

for mercury is SO problematic / obscure.

> I was

>truly impressed because6 years ago when I yelled MERCURY, none listened and

>I was laughted at and called crazy. It is for me refreshing to know someone

>is at least looking into the toxic problem. If I tell parents I don't think

>EH is a good product, I need to back up what I say and give then an

>alternative and back up why I tell them to use it.

yeah, that makes sense. Although " this is what I'm doing " may get you

farther than you think. I don't KNOW that ALA every 3 hours is the

BEST approach, but it is what I am doing, and I'm really very comfortable

with it. I don't spend my time worrying that I'm hurting myself or

that I should do something else. Although I *am* feeling impatient

and thinking about upping the dose again LOL.

> so I am just trying to

>educate myself as best I can

>This has been a bit long winded, thanks for hearing me out. Happy holidays,

>Cabbie

happy holidays to you also

Moria

[Guest guest]

> Andy, thanks for your answer, but as for 'I hope not " could you

please

> explane a bit?

It has nothing that would help remove mercury very well, but lots of

stuff that might make a mercury toxic person worse.

>There is a doctor in my town recomending it, we have

no help

> here and are searching for answers.......thanks

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> [ ] Re: Using Extream Health to chelate

>

>

> > --- In @y..., " Marshall " <mcbailey@m...>

wrote:

> > > Is anyone out there using extream health to chelate?

> >

> > I hope not.

> >

> > >does anyone

> > know if it is a better chelator than DMAS?

> >

> > Not for lead or mercury.

> >

> > >I used it for one month

> > just to see, that was when we hit mercury for the first time, then

I

> > went back to my DSMA route. Just wondering. Cabbie

> > >

> > >

> > >

[Guest guest]

Here is a list of what extreme says is in this material.

" Oral chelation contains EDTA, alginate, attapulgite clay, chlorella,

methionine, cysteine, lipoic acid, vitamin C, and numerous other

ingredients; Age-Less formula eplenishes the nutrients and minerals

that are removed by the Oral Chelation formula and helps support and

detoxify the liver; contains minerals, vitamins, phyto-nutrients. "

Mike

-- In @y..., " andrewhallcutler " <AndyCutler@a...>

wrote:

>

> > > > Is anyone out there using extream health to chelate?

> > >

> > > I hope not.

> > >

> > > >does anyone

> > > know if it is a better chelator than DMAS?

> > >

> > > Not for lead or mercury.

> > >

> > > >I used it for one month

> > > just to see, that was when we hit mercury for the first time,

then

> I

> > > went back to my DSMA route. Just wondering. Cabbie

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

[Guest guest]

Be careful of chlorella it could contain some mercury......I found out the

hard way and it has taken alot of work to undo the harm on my son.

R.