Re: LONG: need help, not doing my best

[Guest guest]

I was like that for about 3 weeks when I wasn't losing anything! It is a slump

that most everyone goes through. Don't stop journaling or you will find

yourself sliding backwards really fast. My only advise to you is to keep

drinking that water and don't miss your meals. If you stop eating, your body

goes into a starvation stage and starts to store what you do eat as fat for

later. You may need to try to change your program to eating bits of meals all

day since you are hungry all the time. You need more protein also, to fill you

up in those small meals. Everyone's body is different and will go through

different tough stages. Just keep an open mind and try new things. That might

get your motivation back! More adventure! Hope this helps!

214.8/183/168

LONG: need help, not doing my best

Good morning everyone

I've been really struggling for the last week. I just seem to have

given up. I don't know what my problem is, but it seems like I've

lost my motivation. I had a 1.4 pound gain last Tues. and she told me

it was because I didn't eat enough points. I felt like, well if I

didn't eat and actually gained, then what the heck am I trying for

anyway? I have looked over my journal and I don't see anything I ate

that would have caused this gain, but now I can't seem to stop

eating!!

I'm still doing better than before I started the program, I even went

out shopping yesterday and bought a new pair of pants/jeans size 16!!

Started out as a size 24W.

I do plan to stick with the program, but I just don't know how to

mentally get myself back on track. I even stopped seriously

journaling, and just wrote down " some " stuff, but when I ate the

wrong things, I didn't even write them down, like it didn't count

that way or something equally stupid. I also, don't want to fall into

a trap of having a week where I gain, and then giving up and going

back to my old eating habits. Im just thoroughly disgusted with

myself right now. I think Im in need of a good hiney kicking, ;(

Bev

[Guest guest]

Aww Bev.. *hugs*.. I'm sorry you are feeling down.. please don't give up!

You've worked SO hard already.. and to go from a 24 to a 16 is GREAT!! I've

just gone from a 22 to an almost 18 so far! Don't focus so hard on the

number on the scale. I know that's easy for me to say, but again sometimes

your body changes in inches rather than pounds. Have you measured yourself

lately? Do you think it could be a factor? Just keep on pluggin' away and

remember we are all here for you! We're all in this together.. and if you

need ANYTHING just feel free to type it out.

Take care, and best of luck to you!

~ O~

272/232/172

On WW since 01/08/02

LONG: need help, not doing my best

> Good morning everyone

>

> I've been really struggling for the last week. I just seem to have

> given up. I don't know what my problem is, but it seems like I've

> lost my motivation. I had a 1.4 pound gain last Tues. and she told me

> it was because I didn't eat enough points. I felt like, well if I

> didn't eat and actually gained, then what the heck am I trying for

> anyway?

[Guest guest]

{I had a 1.4 pound gain last Tues. and she told me

it was because I didn't eat enough points. I felt like, well if I

didn't eat and actually gained, then what the heck am I trying for

anyway?}

Ok, I can TOTALLY relate to this!! I have had the same problem since I

started exercising, and they told me I wasn't eating enough. I ate every

last point I had this week and by mid week I felt much more refreshed and

had a lot more energy. I was scared to get on the scale, cause I haven't

eaten all of my points in a long time, and I was up .8, but after a gain of

almost 9 pounds in 3 weeks, I can handle that, it seems like my body is

starting to get a handle on things... Try eating more for a couple of weeks

and see what happens. It is amazing how easily your body can just shut down

and go into " conserve " mode...

Semalee

Either you are in control, or you are being controlled. I choose to be in

control.

176.4/145/125

[Guest guest]

Boy, did YOU come to the right place! LOL

----- Original Message -----

> Good morning everyone

>

> I've been really struggling for the last week. I just seem to

have

> given up. I don't know what my problem is, but it seems like

I've

> lost my motivation. I had a 1.4 pound gain last Tues. and she

told me

> it was because I didn't eat enough points. I felt like, well if

I

> didn't eat and actually gained, then what the heck am I trying

for

> anyway?

Bev, you're missing the boat! (My ship *finally* came in -- I was

at the airport!)

You obviously think that the WW program is about numbers on a

scale. Nope, not even close. If you have a " diet " mentality, then

you're gonna be a slave to that scale, and as near as I can tell,

you are screwed! I'm not saying you don't have reason for this --

look at all the emphasis the lists and groups put on WI's! But

that's not the aim of the program. So if you use a number on the

scale to know who you are, you're *really* barking up the wrong

tree!

Secondly, you seem to have missed the 'points point.' The whole

idea is that a certain number of calories per day will make your

metabolism work. That will cause fat to 'burn up,' or be lost one

way or another. IF YOU DON'T EAT ENOUGH CALORIES, YOU WON'T GET

THE RESULTS!! You've been reading for *weeks* how others go

through periods of not eating enough to keep the process moving,

but one word from your leader and you're ready to cave in!

You also wrote:

I have looked over my journal and I don't see anything I ate

> that would have caused this gain, but now I can't seem to stop

> eating!!

That's because you're not eating about food, you're eating to

stuff your feelings! How many times have I gotten in trouble for

posting, " When food is always a problem, the problem isn't food! "

A friend on another list often says, " If HUNGER isn't the

problem, FOOD is not the solution! "

Don't you think it's about time you stopped " dieting? " You've

been around here long enough to know that ain't gonna work. Go

back to your journals, and start taking apart what you find

there. Is the " balance " or the " mix " of what you're eating right

for you? You know, it's not just about eating a certain number of

points. You've also got to be giving your body what *it* needs to

be efficient, or it won't drop the fat.

> I'm still doing better than before I started the program, I

even went

> out shopping yesterday and bought a new pair of pants/jeans

size 16!!

> Started out as a size 24W.

The inches are a good sign of progress. However, if you're ready

to slit your throat over a one-pound blip on the scale, girl, you

ain't got the concept yet!

> I do plan to stick with the program, but I just don't know how

to

> mentally get myself back on track. I even stopped seriously

> journaling, and just wrote down " some " stuff, but when I ate

the

> wrong things, I didn't even write them down, like it didn't

count

> that way or something equally stupid.

" I'm mad at the scale -- I think I'll hurt me! " You know, if

someone else came and said that to you, you'd think they were

nuts, wouldn't you?? But that's what you're doing! And it's not

necessary!

I also, don't want to fall into

> a trap of having a week where I gain, and then giving up and

going

> back to my old eating habits. Im just thoroughly disgusted with

> myself right now. I think Im in need of a good hiney kicking,

;(

>

> Bev

Fine. Start by asking yourself, " What would a grownup do? " All

you've written says loud and clear that you want what you want

the way *you* want it, and you're not getting it. So your

response is to sit in the corner, suck your thumb and pout!

Well, when you're tired of doing that, you might realize there is

*another* choice, besides going back to your old eating habits.

Why not get off the pity pot and take a look CLOSELY at what

you're doing. Forget about the " diet " talk, like 'bad' foods --

there are no such things.

See if your balance of protein, carbs and fats is consistent with

your profile. Look up " The Right Mix " and see where you sit with

that today. You obviously need to do some adjusting in the

choices.

Now get off your butt and take some action!

Best regards,

Tony Florida

278/232/155 (since Jul 26, '02)

NAFC = 220

=============================

[Guest guest]

No , I never measured myself before I started WW. That really

makes me mad too. I intended to, but time got away from me I guess. I

suppose I could start now, but I don't even have a measuring tape in

the house ( only sew buttons back, nothing to need a measuring

tape for, LOL)

I was going to go by whatever the tags in my clothes say, but its

hard to go by just clothing sizes though, because sizes vary

depending on which stores you shop at. I've found the more expensive

the clothes, the smaller the size on the tag. Like at Wally World,

their 18W for $16.97 might be the same as a J C Penny's size 16 for

$39.00.. Anyone else notice that?

Im not usually such a whiner, maybe all this rain & snow are finally

getting to me.

Usually my back sliding starts when others start noticing my weight

loss though. It's as though, when I start getting compliments I get

cocky and act like I don't need to be careful about what I eat any

longer. I KNOW that's stupid, that I'll have to watch what I eat for

the rest of my life, I can tell other's that, but I don't take my own

advise much ;(

Thanks for all your support EVERYONE!

Bev

> Aww Bev.. *hugs*.. I'm sorry you are feeling down.. please don't

give up!

> You've worked SO hard already.. and to go from a 24 to a 16 is

GREAT!! I've

> just gone from a 22 to an almost 18 so far! Don't focus so hard on

the

> number on the scale. I know that's easy for me to say, but again

sometimes

> your body changes in inches rather than pounds. Have you measured

yourself

> lately? Do you think it could be a factor? Just keep on pluggin'

away and

> remember we are all here for you! We're all in this together.. and

if you

> need ANYTHING just feel free to type it out.

>

> Take care, and best of luck to you!

>

>

> ~ O~

> 272/232/172

>

> On WW since 01/08/02

>

>

>

> LONG: need help, not doing my

best

>

>

> > Good morning everyone

> >

> > I've been really struggling for the last week. I just seem to have

> > given up. I don't know what my problem is, but it seems like I've

> > lost my motivation. I had a 1.4 pound gain last Tues. and she

told me

> > it was because I didn't eat enough points. I felt like, well if I

> > didn't eat and actually gained, then what the heck am I trying for

> > anyway?

[Guest guest]

LOL!

I don't know about ya'll, but I really hate " conservation mode " , ya

KNOW???

I remember once, having the flu, and losing over 8 pounds. But

really, looking back, I was eating like there was no tommorrow at

that time, so I guess it was more of an adjustment being sick, so I

probably had more to lose, right? Maybe now my body is used to

getting less food, so it did conserve that which I managed to keep

down, and therefore had that gain. I wish I'd thought of that before

I totally blew this week out of the water.

I wonder if its too late to recover if I only have 2 days left till

weigh in on Tues?

You all are so great to have as friends, it's so much help knowing

that I'm not alone in this constant battle.

Thank you ALL so much I think I'm starting to feel better.

Bev

PS. (geeze, I wonder how far I'll go up THIS weigh in, aaaarrrggghhh!!

well, at least I'll know EXACTLY what I've done wrong, won't I?)

*wink*

> {I had a 1.4 pound gain last Tues. and she told me

> it was because I didn't eat enough points. I felt like, well if I

> didn't eat and actually gained, then what the heck am I trying for

> anyway?}

>

> Ok, I can TOTALLY relate to this!! I have had the same problem

since I

> started exercising, and they told me I wasn't eating enough. I ate

every

> last point I had this week and by mid week I felt much more

refreshed and

> had a lot more energy. I was scared to get on the scale, cause I

haven't

> eaten all of my points in a long time, and I was up .8, but after a

gain of

> almost 9 pounds in 3 weeks, I can handle that, it seems like my

body is

> starting to get a handle on things... Try eating more for a couple

of weeks

> and see what happens. It is amazing how easily your body can just

shut down

> and go into " conserve " mode...

> Semalee

> Either you are in control, or you are being controlled. I choose

to be in

> control.

>

> 176.4/145/125

>

>

[Guest guest]

alright Tony,

I printed all the other wonderful responses to make a

new 'inspirational' journal.

However, as for your response?

I'm FRAMING it.

I also may copy it to give to friends who need it too.

Thank you,

I needed that

Bev (now, officially off the pity pot) )

>

> I have looked over my journal and I don't see anything I ate

> > that would have caused this gain, but now I can't seem to stop

> > eating!!

>

> That's because you're not eating about food, you're eating to

> stuff your feelings! How many times have I gotten in trouble for

> posting, " When food is always a problem, the problem isn't food! "

> A friend on another list often says, " If HUNGER isn't the

> problem, FOOD is not the solution! "

>

> Don't you think it's about time you stopped " dieting? " You've

> been around here long enough to know that ain't gonna work. Go

> back to your journals, and start taking apart what you find

> there. Is the " balance " or the " mix " of what you're eating right

> for you? You know, it's not just about eating a certain number of

> points. You've also got to be giving your body what *it* needs to

> be efficient, or it won't drop the fat.

>

> > I'm still doing better than before I started the program, I

> even went

> > out shopping yesterday and bought a new pair of pants/jeans

> size 16!!

> > Started out as a size 24W.

>

> The inches are a good sign of progress. However, if you're ready

> to slit your throat over a one-pound blip on the scale, girl, you

> ain't got the concept yet!

>

> > I do plan to stick with the program, but I just don't know how

> to

> > mentally get myself back on track. I even stopped seriously

> > journaling, and just wrote down " some " stuff, but when I ate

> the

> > wrong things, I didn't even write them down, like it didn't

> count

> > that way or something equally stupid.

>

> " I'm mad at the scale -- I think I'll hurt me! " You know, if

> someone else came and said that to you, you'd think they were

> nuts, wouldn't you?? But that's what you're doing! And it's not

> necessary!

>

> I also, don't want to fall into

> > a trap of having a week where I gain, and then giving up and

> going

> > back to my old eating habits. Im just thoroughly disgusted with

> > myself right now. I think Im in need of a good hiney kicking,

> ;(

> >

> > Bev

>

> Fine. Start by asking yourself, " What would a grownup do? " All

> you've written says loud and clear that you want what you want

> the way *you* want it, and you're not getting it. So your

> response is to sit in the corner, suck your thumb and pout!

>

> Well, when you're tired of doing that, you might realize there is

> *another* choice, besides going back to your old eating habits.

> Why not get off the pity pot and take a look CLOSELY at what

> you're doing. Forget about the " diet " talk, like 'bad' foods --

> there are no such things.

>

> See if your balance of protein, carbs and fats is consistent with

> your profile. Look up " The Right Mix " and see where you sit with

> that today. You obviously need to do some adjusting in the

> choices.

>

> Now get off your butt and take some action!

>

> Best regards,

> Tony Florida

> 278/232/155 (since Jul 26, '02)

> NAFC = 220

> =============================

[Guest guest]

Focus on the positive! New jeans size 16! From a 24, that's awesome.

You can do this.

Bev wrote:

> Good morning everyone

>

> I've been really struggling for the last week. I just seem to have

> given up. I don't know what my problem is, but it seems like I've

> lost my motivation. I had a 1.4 pound gain last Tues. and she told me

> it was because I didn't eat enough points. I felt like, well if I

> didn't eat and actually gained, then what the heck am I trying for

> anyway? I have looked over my journal and I don't see anything I ate

> that would have caused this gain, but now I can't seem to stop

> eating!!

> I'm still doing better than before I started the program, I even went

> out shopping yesterday and bought a new pair of pants/jeans size 16!!

> Started out as a size 24W.

> I do plan to stick with the program, but I just don't know how to

> mentally get myself back on track. I even stopped seriously

> journaling, and just wrote down " some " stuff, but when I ate the

> wrong things, I didn't even write them down, like it didn't count

> that way or something equally stupid. I also, don't want to fall into

> a trap of having a week where I gain, and then giving up and going

> back to my old eating habits. Im just thoroughly disgusted with

> myself right now. I think Im in need of a good hiney kicking, ;(

>

> Bev

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

{ I mean, whenever I ask

someone why they're trying to lose weight, everyone's got the

same answers: " Oh, it's for my health, " or, " I want to live to

see my children's children. " Crap like that doesn't get it, IMO.}

Reid, I totally agree with everything you said except the comment above. I

have been struggling for a few months now, and especially since I started

exercising, and the ONLY thing that has kept me going is my children. When

I started on WW I realized not only what I was doing to myself, but also to

my children. I resolved to feed them healthy food from then on (McD's every

now and then is ok, but not 5-7 times a week!!) If it wasn't for the fact

that I am so determined to be healthy for them and be able to run around

with them and ride bikes with them and go outside with them ( something I

seriously avoided before because my thighs rubbed together and it was

painful, not to mention if it was over 50 degrees I was hot because of all

of my " insulation " ) I would have quit several months ago. But it is the

fact that I know this is a healthy way of eating, and I want them to grow up

eating good food that is healthy, so they don't have my mindset that if it

is good, it is bad for you and if it is bad for you it is good.... Anyway,

just thought I would put in my .02. I would also like to mention, though

that the rest of it was very thought provoking and definitely helped me to

look inward a little more. I definitely try to fix it from the outside in..

Semalee

Either you are in control, or you are being controlled. I choose to be in

control.

176.4/151/125

[Guest guest]

Reid, I totally agree with everything you said except the comment above.

I meant Tony, not Reid.. Sorry brain fart...

Semalee

Either you are in control, or you are being controlled. I choose to be in

control.

176.4/151/125

-------Original Message-------

[Guest guest]

Thanks !

and now I need to start eating on my weigh in days too. This will be

a big change

Bev

>

> > Good morning everyone

> >

> > I've been really struggling for the last week. I just seem to have

> > given up. I don't know what my problem is, but it seems like I've

> > lost my motivation. I had a 1.4 pound gain last Tues. and she

told me

> > it was because I didn't eat enough points. I felt like, well if I

> > didn't eat and actually gained, then what the heck am I trying for

> > anyway? I have looked over my journal and I don't see anything I

ate

> > that would have caused this gain, but now I can't seem to stop

> > eating!!

> > I'm still doing better than before I started the program, I even

went

> > out shopping yesterday and bought a new pair of pants/jeans size

16!!

> > Started out as a size 24W.

> > I do plan to stick with the program, but I just don't know how to

> > mentally get myself back on track. I even stopped seriously

> > journaling, and just wrote down " some " stuff, but when I ate the

> > wrong things, I didn't even write them down, like it didn't count

> > that way or something equally stupid. I also, don't want to fall

into

> > a trap of having a week where I gain, and then giving up and going

> > back to my old eating habits. Im just thoroughly disgusted with

> > myself right now. I think Im in need of a good hiney kicking, ;(

> >

> > Bev

> >

> >

> >