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Hi, I have about 3 minutes before heading out the

door, but wanted to reply quickly.

Two pretty good flare ups during this time, both

during day 11, 12 of my about 22/23 day cycle. Lots of

mini-flares

No, I don't use too much I don't think. I have syrnges

and only use 2ml which is just about pea- size. I have

been using estogen on MWFSun, and the testost. on

TTHSat.

You weren't around for the post but I have found a

natural pharmacist with some ideas and compounds I'd

like to run by you. I'm not giving up on my program

yet, however. I just wonder when to begin to think

about another answer. I want to hunt this fall so

badly, and the summer is running out.

I know, I'll paste the info from another letter

here...

My natural pharmacist's mname is Ben Briggs. He is

from Lionville Natural Pharmacy in PA. His formulas

are all prescription-only.

He begins with a base cream of beta 1,3 glucan, an

anti-fungal anti-invasive(ie cancer..) cream, then

adds one or more of the following:

cromayln sodium... desensitizes tissue

ketamine...a topical narcotic for pain

zovirax....an anti-viral

econazole...an anti-fungal

He has treated about 10 women. Five successfully.

Have you heard about any of these treatments?

Thanks Dee,Candace

--- Dee Troll wrote:

> Hi

>

> well, I sure am sorry to hear that you feel there's

> no improvment, hope you

> haven't been in a severe flare up too, I haven't

> gotten to the archives yet,

> but it sounds like it *sigh*, I just feel so bad for

> you. I'm glad to hear

> the Estrace and T didn't burn, which is unusual

> especially the Estrace, but

> the only thing I can think of is that 6 weeks isn't

> really a long time, (I

> know it is when we're in that damn pain), but when I

> first started I was so

> bad that within 6 weeks I'd probably only used the

> Estrace about 10-12 times

> at most as it irritated me so badly at first and I

> imagine since it didn't

> burn you that you used it quite a bit more right?

>

> So... what I'm asking in a way is that if you're in

> a flare up (as you said

> you're no better) , could it be that you're using

> it too much? Remember

> less is more in this case, just a dab 'll do ya.

> *chuckle*.. and I only used

> a pea size dab at bedtime so it had a chance to work

> while I slept.

>

> Just a thought here, since you said there's no

> improvement, I'm a little

> confused. Anyway hon, I know it took me 6 months to

> total relief, so please

> don't give up on it yet, but use it minimally, and

> remember it's not for

> pain relief, but to regrow that skin and it just

> takes time honestly. But

> please don't give up HOPE, ever!!! Believe me, If I

> got better you can too,

> but it does take patience, *sigh*, I even hate

> saying that but it's true.

> At least this has been my experience. YOU JUST HANG

> IN THERE HON...better

> days are ahead.

> Take care, Warmest regards, Dee~

>

>

>

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Hi, I have about 3 minutes before heading out the

door, but wanted to reply quickly.

Two pretty good flare ups during this time, both

during day 11, 12 of my about 22/23 day cycle. Lots of

mini-flares

No, I don't use too much I don't think. I have syrnges

and only use 2ml which is just about pea- size. I have

been using estogen on MWFSun, and the testost. on

TTHSat.

You weren't around for the post but I have found a

natural pharmacist with some ideas and compounds I'd

like to run by you. I'm not giving up on my program

yet, however. I just wonder when to begin to think

about another answer. I want to hunt this fall so

badly, and the summer is running out.

I know, I'll paste the info from another letter

here...

My natural pharmacist's mname is Ben Briggs. He is

from Lionville Natural Pharmacy in PA. His formulas

are all prescription-only.

He begins with a base cream of beta 1,3 glucan, an

anti-fungal anti-invasive(ie cancer..) cream, then

adds one or more of the following:

cromayln sodium... desensitizes tissue

ketamine...a topical narcotic for pain

zovirax....an anti-viral

econazole...an anti-fungal

He has treated about 10 women. Five successfully.

Have you heard about any of these treatments?

Thanks Dee,Candace

--- Dee Troll wrote:

> Hi

>

> well, I sure am sorry to hear that you feel there's

> no improvment, hope you

> haven't been in a severe flare up too, I haven't

> gotten to the archives yet,

> but it sounds like it *sigh*, I just feel so bad for

> you. I'm glad to hear

> the Estrace and T didn't burn, which is unusual

> especially the Estrace, but

> the only thing I can think of is that 6 weeks isn't

> really a long time, (I

> know it is when we're in that damn pain), but when I

> first started I was so

> bad that within 6 weeks I'd probably only used the

> Estrace about 10-12 times

> at most as it irritated me so badly at first and I

> imagine since it didn't

> burn you that you used it quite a bit more right?

>

> So... what I'm asking in a way is that if you're in

> a flare up (as you said

> you're no better) , could it be that you're using

> it too much? Remember

> less is more in this case, just a dab 'll do ya.

> *chuckle*.. and I only used

> a pea size dab at bedtime so it had a chance to work

> while I slept.

>

> Just a thought here, since you said there's no

> improvement, I'm a little

> confused. Anyway hon, I know it took me 6 months to

> total relief, so please

> don't give up on it yet, but use it minimally, and

> remember it's not for

> pain relief, but to regrow that skin and it just

> takes time honestly. But

> please don't give up HOPE, ever!!! Believe me, If I

> got better you can too,

> but it does take patience, *sigh*, I even hate

> saying that but it's true.

> At least this has been my experience. YOU JUST HANG

> IN THERE HON...better

> days are ahead.

> Take care, Warmest regards, Dee~

>

>

>

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> ccalverlori

>

> Hi Welcome! Is there anything you would like to know in

particular? We are pretty good at pointing the way to good answers.

Do you or someone you know have ms/

>

> Hugs,

>

Hello Stacey,

My first name is Candace. Thanks for the welcome! Among 65 other

emails from MSerslife group (overwhelmed!)yours is the first and

onlyone , so far, that I have responded to. I do have RRMS. Right now

I just need support from other people with MS. I recently was fired

for my disabilty and am currently in the middle of all the

legalities - What a trip this is!!-. I am 40 years old, single with

two grown children- one attentive and the other indifferent- I live

alone. My mother, who lives in another state, worries too much about

me and thinks she is responsible for the MS. My Brother and the rest

of my family, including some friends, think they understand MS but

they really don't, particularly with some of rhe requests they ask of

me. And MS tiredness and fatigue ( " don't you know everybody gets

tired and fatigued! " " I know what that feels like " ) this is very

frustrating and makes me not want to talk to anyone, because they

make me feel like I'm lying or exagerating. These are the reasons

why I signed up to this group(first timer)to get and give support

from/to people who understand. any advice, inparticular to family

and friends, that you or anyone else could give would be most helpful.

Thanks for being here!!

Hugs back to you!

Candace

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