Pre-mixing DMSA and ALA in juice

[Guest guest]

Get the DMSA and ALA from Kirkman's. The DMSA comes in 50 mg capsules. Very

easy to work with.

Joyce

Re: [ ] Pre-mixing DMSA and ALA in juice

> Thanks for the advice. The difficulty in mixing it fresh every time is

that

> the DMSA capsules are 300 mg and I only want to give 50 mg per dose and

the

> ALA capsules are in 100 mg and I only want to give say 20 mg per dose.

Any

> suggestions on how to measure these doses?

>

> Thanks,

> 's Mom

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Thanks for the advice. The difficulty in mixing it fresh every time is that

the DMSA capsules are 300 mg and I only want to give 50 mg per dose and the

ALA capsules are in 100 mg and I only want to give say 20 mg per dose. Any

suggestions on how to measure these doses?

Thanks,

's Mom

[Guest guest]

I have been reading posts and files on this list for several weeks

and today is the day to start the first round of chelation. I will

start chelation with my nine year old son, , today (Friday) at

6:00 pm and end on Monday morning a 6:00 am. I plan to give 50mg DMSA

and 17mg ALA for 18 doses every 3 hours during the day and every 4

hours at night.

This is my question: Is it okay to mix all the DMSA (900mg) and all

the ALA (300mg) in juice (equivalent to 18 teaspoons) and store it in

the fridge for the entire weekend?

Thanks,

's Mom

[Guest guest]

I heard these agents do not remain stable in liquid very long. I would mix it

fresh everytime just before giving it.

On 11/30/01, wrote:

>I have been reading posts and files on this list >for several weeks >and today

is the day to start the first round of >chelation. I will >start chelation with

my nine year old son, , >today (Friday) at >6:00 pm and end on Monday

morning a 6:00 am. I plan >to give 50mg DMSA >and 17mg ALA for 18 doses every 3

hours during the >day and every 4 >hours at night. >

>This is my question: Is it okay to mix all the DMSA >(900mg) and all >the ALA

(300mg) in juice (equivalent to 18 >teaspoons) and store it in >the fridge for

the entire weekend?

>

>Thanks,

>'s Mom

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

You could mix the dmsa with 6 teaspoons of juice and divide it out in 6 oral

syringes. Then take the ala and add 5 teaspoons of juice and divide out 5 ways.

I divide both out 3 ways so I add them together. I think if you are dosing

every 3-4 hours they should remain stable but you may want to check with Andy.

Also mix with lemonade, limeade or pineapple juice so the dmsa and ala remain

stable.

FYI Kirkman as 25, 50 and 100 mg capsules of both ALA and DMSA (I think) and VRP

has DMSA in 100mg capsules.

(Ian's mom)

Re: [ ] Pre-mixing DMSA and ALA in juice

Thanks for the advice. The difficulty in mixing it fresh every time is that

the DMSA capsules are 300 mg and I only want to give 50 mg per dose and the

ALA capsules are in 100 mg and I only want to give say 20 mg per dose. Any

suggestions on how to measure these doses?

Thanks,

's Mom

[Guest guest]

According to Andy...Premixing is ok up to 12 hours in an acid base.

Chelation support supplements can be added to this mixture.

[Guest guest]

I asked this question to Larry at Kirkmans. He said that pre-mixing 1/2 hour

ahead was ok but longer and it will lose strength.

karen

[Guest guest]

What we do is make up the cups with dmsa/ala/glycine and put tops on them.

we take 4 cups upstairs at night 12:30 dose and 4:30 dose.

Then we take a larger cup with OJ in it and put it in a lunch sack with

freezer packs.

We get up and mix the oj with the powder and give it right away. This keeps

us from going up and down the steps in the middle of the night.

Tina

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In a message dated 12/1/01 11:22:18 AM Eastern Standard Time,

moriam@... writes:

> Are you saying you put the POWDER into the cups?

> If so, how do you divide it up? Just on a piece of paper?

>

>

Hi Moira:

We give the DMSA and ALA from Kirkman's so I break open the capsules of both

and put them in the cups and the glycine is also powder. So everything is in

the cups and I just add the oj right before I give it to them.

Tina

[Guest guest]

Hi Tina,

>What we do is make up the cups with dmsa/ala/glycine and put tops on them.

>we take 4 cups upstairs at night 12:30 dose and 4:30 dose.

Are you saying you put the POWDER into the cups?

If so, how do you divide it up? Just on a piece of paper?

>Then we take a larger cup with OJ in it and put it in a lunch sack with

>freezer packs.

>We get up and mix the oj with the powder and give it right away. This keeps

>us from going up and down the steps in the middle of the night.

This seems like a nice way to do it, I just want to see if I'm

following you I agree that things done at 3 AM need to

be as easy as possilbe (ha ha ha ha ha--- cackling deranged laughter!)

Moria

[Guest guest]

>According to Andy...Premixing is ok up to 12 hours in an acid base.

>Chelation support supplements can be added to this mixture.

>

Yes-- Andy has said that ALA is pretty stable (even in water), but

that DMSA is not so stable. DMSA should be mixed into something

acidic IF YOU WANT TO DO IT AHEAD. (If you do it at the time

just before giving it, it doesn't matter.) Use acidic fruit juices

(lemonade, limeade, or pineapple juice for example) are good for mixing

with DMSA. Limit the number of doses that are premixed into acidic juice,

and then use them up in a reasonable amount of time. Keep in fridge.

I'm not sure how long " a reasonable time " is=== perhaps you could

mix the doses for 1 capsule's worth?

Moria