Re: newbie!

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Welcome, Cheryl! I'm Vicky in Texas...I joined the group because I need support and encouragement for the day to day maintaining. I "released" 65 pounds 2 years ago using the Weight Watchers program and am finding the maintaining phase ALOT harder than I expected.

The experts say that once you've kept the weight off for 2 years, the statistical evidence is good that you will keep it off for life. But in my heart I know that it will be work, on a day to day basis. I'm just trying to find which "work plan" will be the easiest to follow. IE has been working for me for about the last 6 weeks. That's when I stopped measuring and writing everything down.

I need accountability and boundaries though, so I'm concerned that I may not be able to handle this much freedom. The key lies in being in tune to my hunger signals and being disciplined enough to obey them! And this group is already helping so much by keeping it at the front of my mind and letting me know that others are struggling just like me and succeeding every day = ) Thanks, ya'll!!

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Hi, Cheryl! Welcome to the group! Congrats on the 20 lbs!

And, since you did WD, did you find it "condemning"? I did. I felt like I was "sinning" if I overate. :-?

Then I found 'Thin Within' ... http://www.thinwithin.org

and the support group for that: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Thin_Within_Support

They're just getting ready to read the book (http://tinyurl.com/cg8zg ) together.

Anyhoo... I'm a member over at the DietSurvivors group, too, and I'm really enjoying the posts there. I've not read 's book... nor 's (they're both not avail. at my library, and I can't afford to buy them right now), but I've read several other books (see my blog: http://intuitive-eating.blogspot.com ). There are more books out there on non-dieting than I realized! I'm glad, too, 'cause i think *everyone* needs to know about this method, and get free of dieting forever!

Glad to have you with us!

Jenn

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I am one of the newbies. My name is Cheryl, I am 45 yrs old, I live in CA with my dh (our 25th is on the 25th!)

At the end of the month I heard about Gwen Shamblin and the Weigh Down diet. By my birthday I'd lost 20 lbs and then added a few more to it after that.

As much as I loved being thinner, I loved having peace with food more. Now when I look back on it, I don't think I really had peace with food. I did have lots of faith though--and that has stuck with me.

Unfortunately, some of the weight has come back on--and I am about 14 lbs above where I'd like to be. More than the extra weight though--I have been consumed with thoughts about food, eating, weighing, etc. It drives me crazy.

I've tried to get back into this by myself and have had mild success. About six months ago I bought Koenig's book, "The Rules of Normal Eating" and I also did a stint on Moran's list--Diet Survivors.

I got out Ms. Koenig's book this week and started reading it again--it's amazing what I am reading this time around--I must not have been ready to really do any work last time I read it. I am determined to stick with this and get to a point where I have true peace with food. I'm hoping you can all help me with that.

I'm off to make a list of my irrational beliefs concering food, weight and my body--can't change them until I can name them!

http://mizbooksreads.blogspot.com

http://intuitive-eating.blogspot.com

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/IntuitiveEating_Support

* NEVER DIET AGAIN! *

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Jenn, did you know that makes her book available for free in e-book format under her links? That's how I read it...

April

-----Original Message-----From: IntuitiveEating_Support [mailto:IntuitiveEating_Support ]On Behalf Of Jenn S.Sent: Saturday, July 15, 2006 7:41 AMTo: IntuitiveEating_Support Subject: Re: newbie!

Hi, Cheryl! Welcome to the group! Congrats on the 20 lbs!

And, since you did WD, did you find it "condemning"? I did. I felt like I was "sinning" if I overate. :-?

Then I found 'Thin Within' ... http://www.thinwithin.org

and the support group for that: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Thin_Within_Support

They're just getting ready to read the book (http://tinyurl.com/cg8zg ) together.

Anyhoo... I'm a member over at the DietSurvivors group, too, and I'm really enjoying the posts there. I've not read 's book... nor 's (they're both not avail. at my library, and I can't afford to buy them right now), but I've read several other books (see my blog: http://intuitive-eating.blogspot.com ). There are more books out there on non-dieting than I realized! I'm glad, too, 'cause i think *everyone* needs to know about this method, and get free of dieting forever!

Glad to have you with us!

Jenn

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-----Original Message-----

I am one of the newbies. My name is Cheryl, I am 45 yrs old, I live in CA with my dh (our 25th is on the 25th!)

At the end of the month I heard about Gwen Shamblin and the Weigh Down diet. By my birthday I'd lost 20 lbs and then added a few more to it after that.

As much as I loved being thinner, I loved having peace with food more. Now when I look back on it, I don't think I really had peace with food. I did have lots of faith though--and that has stuck with me.

Unfortunately, some of the weight has come back on--and I am about 14 lbs above where I'd like to be. More than the extra weight though--I have been consumed with thoughts about food, eating, weighing, etc. It drives me crazy.

I've tried to get back into this by myself and have had mild success. About six months ago I bought Koenig's book, "The Rules of Normal Eating" and I also did a stint on Moran's list--Diet Survivors.

I got out Ms. Koenig's book this week and started reading it again--it's amazing what I am reading this time around--I must not have been ready to really do any work last time I read it. I am determined to stick with this and get to a point where I have true peace with food. I'm hoping you can all help me with that.

I'm off to make a list of my irrational beliefs concering food, weight and my body--can't change them until I can name them!

http://mizbooksreads.blogspot.com

http://intuitive-eating.blogspot.com

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/IntuitiveEating_Support

* NEVER DIET AGAIN! *

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Nope! Didn't know that! Gonna have to go looking! Thank you so much. )

Jenn

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Jenn, did you know that makes her book available for free in e-book format under her links? That's how I read it...

April

http://mizbooksreads.blogspot.com

http://intuitive-eating.blogspot.com

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/IntuitiveEating_Support

* NEVER DIET AGAIN! *

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Jenn--

I didn't have that problem when doing WD. First I read the book, then I joined a Catholic WD group. So, we watched the videos, but then kind of reframed it a bit. While first doing WD I was also reading the bible for the first time and just felt really great turning everything over to God.

I've read Thin Within, but I don't have the book anymore. I have to be careful about reading too many books on this subject--or it gets to be the same as when I read all the diet books. I keep looking for the puzzle piece that will make everything fall into place and make the whole issue just go away for me. Does that make sense? I can read books all day long--but it isn't the book that is going to make me pay attention to my body. I have to do it by myself, for myself.

I read 's book by downloading it from her website too, like April.

About the sweets and chips thing...I buy Hershey's Treasures (they are little treasure boxes with something inside--I like the caramel ones) and I have one after dinner while my husband does the dishes. It rounds out my meal and usually makes me feel satisfied all night so I don't need to eat later on. For chips--when I am in the mood for chip types of things--I buy individual serving sizes. Sometimes I buy the snack sizes, but sometimes I buy the size you get near a register in a store--it may be a little more than I need, but it is way better than having a huge bag of chips to dig into.

Cheryl

Re: newbie!

Hi, Cheryl! Welcome to the group! Congrats on the 20 lbs!

And, since you did WD, did you find it "condemning"? I did. I felt like I was "sinning" if I overate. :-?

Then I found 'Thin Within' ... http://www.thinwithin.org

and the support group for that: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Thin_Within_Support

They're just getting ready to read the book (http://tinyurl.com/cg8zg ) together.

Anyhoo... I'm a member over at the DietSurvivors group, too, and I'm really enjoying the posts there. I've not read 's book... nor 's (they're both not avail. at my library, and I can't afford to buy them right now), but I've read several other books (see my blog: http://intuitive-eating.blogspot.com ). There are more books out there on non-dieting than I realized! I'm glad, too, 'cause i think *everyone* needs to know about this method, and get free of dieting forever!

Glad to have you with us!

Jenn

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-----Original Message-----

I am one of the newbies. My name is Cheryl, I am 45 yrs old, I live in CA with my dh (our 25th is on the 25th!)

At the end of the month I heard about Gwen Shamblin and the Weigh Down diet. By my birthday I'd lost 20 lbs and then added a few more to it after that.

As much as I loved being thinner, I loved having peace with food more. Now when I look back on it, I don't think I really had peace with food. I did have lots of faith though--and that has stuck with me.

Unfortunately, some of the weight has come back on--and I am about 14 lbs above where I'd like to be. More than the extra weight though--I have been consumed with thoughts about food, eating, weighing, etc. It drives me crazy.

I've tried to get back into this by myself and have had mild success. About six months ago I bought Koenig's book, "The Rules of Normal Eating" and I also did a stint on Moran's list--Diet Survivors.

I got out Ms. Koenig's book this week and started reading it again--it's amazing what I am reading this time around--I must not have been ready to really do any work last time I read it. I am determined to stick with this and get to a point where I have true peace with food. I'm hoping you can all help me with that.

I'm off to make a list of my irrational beliefs concering food, weight and my body--can't change them until I can name them!

http://mizbooksreads.blogspot.com

http://intuitive-eating.blogspot.com

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/IntuitiveEating_Support

* NEVER DIET AGAIN! *

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-----Original Message-----

I've read Thin Within

*** Cool! )

I have to be careful about reading too many books on this subject--or it gets to be the same as when I read all the diet books. I keep looking for the puzzle piece that will make everything fall into place and make the whole issue just go away for me. Does that make sense? I can read books all day long--but it isn't the book that is going to make me pay attention to my body. I have to do it by myself, for myself.

*** Good point. I am reading a slew of books on the subject lately ... you're very right about how it can become a "diet", and it can become like searching for that magic key that'll fix everything. :-? I think that's why I started on this kick of reading all the books ... to find the elusive "key" ... but now it's more just to find different ways to add to my method to PERSONALIZE this for me. )

I buy Hershey's Treasures (they are little treasure boxes with something inside--I like the caramel ones) and I have one after dinner while my husband does the dishes. It rounds out my meal and usually makes me feel satisfied all night so I don't need to eat later on.

*** Oooo! Those sound like a neat idea! Maybe I'll have to go looking for them. ) Thanks!

Jenn

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http://mizbooksreads.blogspot.com

http://intuitive-eating.blogspot.com

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/IntuitiveEating_Support

* NEVER DIET AGAIN! *

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buy Hershey's Treasures (they are little treasure boxes with something inside--I like the caramel ones) and I have one after dinner while my husband does the dishes. It rounds out my meal and usually

Cheryl, I remember reading this post when it first came in, but I didn't respond. As I was going through some old post that I hadn't read yet, I happened to see this one again. The first time I read it, which was just 3 days ago, I remember thinking as I read the above line, "oh, to be able to find that much contentment in one Hersheys Treasure" But you know? I think I already get that one little something like that CAN be just enough to round out a meal or for just a little treat. I'm a recovering "eat the whole bag, if any" person. Does that make me a binger? Seriously. I have a bit of a problem with thinking of myself as a binger, but I guess you could call me that, since I really could eat whole bags of little miniature candies in one sitting. hmmm....this self evaluation thing is pretty tough.

Leisa

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Leisa--

I understand what you are saying. But, even if you are a "binger"--does it really change anything? You are still on this new journey--intuitive eating. What a concept!! Trusting our bodies to know what it wants and how much.

I think it is very important for us to legalize ALL foods. Some foods give me more trouble than others--and so I limit my exposure to them, or put things in place to control how much of it I can have (like buying individual bags of chips, or only having an ice cream out instead of buying a half gallon, or getting one cookie at the bakery instead of buying a whole bag) I presume that when I am more consistently successful at eating between h/f having these things around won't be so much of a problem. As a matter of fact, I know it gets to that point from past experience.

I think once we really lose the diet mentality of good foods/bad foods we can then choose to eat more healthfully. It is hard enough to realize (internally) that it isn't the food, it is how I eat the food, that I can't really be doing what is good for me and what isn't right now.

When I did WD and lost 20 lbs I ate chocolate everyday--but it was a Lindt's truffle or a few peanut M & M's. I also ate whatever I wanted--between h/f and it was wonderfully freeing not to be doing the dieting dance I'd done for so many years. Once I got the good food/bad food thing out of the way, I listened to what my body wanted--and it wanted fruit for its sweetness, or a salad with crisp vegetables when I wanted something crunchy. No one was more amazed than I was when that happened. I thought for sure I'd be eating junk for the rest of my life.

Cheryl

Re: newbie!

buy Hershey's Treasures (they are little treasure boxes with something inside--I like the caramel ones) and I have one after dinner while my husband does the dishes. It rounds out my meal and usually

Cheryl, I remember reading this post when it first came in, but I didn't respond. As I was going through some old post that I hadn't read yet, I happened to see this one again. The first time I read it, which was just 3 days ago, I remember thinking as I read the above line, "oh, to be able to find that much contentment in one Hersheys Treasure" But you know? I think I already get that one little something like that CAN be just enough to round out a meal or for just a little treat. I'm a recovering "eat the whole bag, if any" person. Does that make me a binger? Seriously. I have a bit of a problem with thinking of myself as a binger, but I guess you could call me that, since I really could eat whole bags of little miniature candies in one sitting. hmmm....this self evaluation thing is pretty tough.

Leisa

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Wow, thanks Cheryl, that's very encouraging that I might actually not prefer junk to healthier options forever, especially when you're talking a hormonally charged eating machine at the moment, lol. Thanks for the encouragement. I'm taking all this very seriously and am looking forward to waiting till true, true hunger. : )

Leisa

Re: newbie!

buy Hershey's Treasures (they are little treasure boxes with something inside--I like the caramel ones) and I have one after dinner while my husband does the dishes. It rounds out my meal and usually

Cheryl, I remember reading this post when it first came in, but I didn't respond. As I was going through some old post that I hadn't read yet, I happened to see this one again. The first time I read it, which was just 3 days ago, I remember thinking as I read the above line, "oh, to be able to find that much contentment in one Hersheys Treasure" But you know? I think I already get that one little something like that CAN be just enough to round out a meal or for just a little treat. I'm a recovering "eat the whole bag, if any" person. Does that make me a binger? Seriously. I have a bit of a problem with thinking of myself as a binger, but I guess you could call me that, since I really could eat whole bags of little miniature candies in one sitting. hmmm....this self evaluation thing is pretty tough.

Leisa

[Guest guest]

Thank you Cheryl for this glimmer of hope, it is hard to see a time

when I will crave salad, there is still part of me that feels very

guilty when I don't eat my veggies even if eating them would take me

beyond full. 'The Overfed Head' had a neat quote in it, " eating an

apple when you are not hungry is overeating, eating an slice of

apple pie when you are hungry is not " ...living so long with

the 'diet police' it is hard to believe that but freeing too.

>

> Leisa--

>

> I understand what you are saying. But, even if you are a " binger " --

does it really change anything? You are still on this new journey--

intuitive eating. What a concept!! Trusting our bodies to know what

it wants and how much.

>

> I think it is very important for us to legalize ALL foods. Some

foods give me more trouble than others--and so I limit my exposure

to them, or put things in place to control how much of it I can have

(like buying individual bags of chips, or only having an ice cream

out instead of buying a half gallon, or getting one cookie at the

bakery instead of buying a whole bag) I presume that when I am more

consistently successful at eating between h/f having these things

around won't be so much of a problem. As a matter of fact, I know it

gets to that point from past experience.

>

> I think once we really lose the diet mentality of good foods/bad

foods we can then choose to eat more healthfully. It is hard enough

to realize (internally) that it isn't the food, it is how I eat the

food, that I can't really be doing what is good for me and what

isn't right now.

>

> When I did WD and lost 20 lbs I ate chocolate everyday--but it was

a Lindt's truffle or a few peanut M & M's. I also ate whatever I

wanted--between h/f and it was wonderfully freeing not to be doing

the dieting dance I'd done for so many years. Once I got the good

food/bad food thing out of the way, I listened to what my body

wanted--and it wanted fruit for its sweetness, or a salad with crisp

vegetables when I wanted something crunchy. No one was more amazed

than I was when that happened. I thought for sure I'd be eating junk

for the rest of my life.

>

> Cheryl

>

>

> Re: newbie!

>

>

>

> buy Hershey's Treasures (they are little treasure boxes with

something inside--I like the caramel ones) and I have one after

dinner while my husband does the dishes. It rounds out my meal and

usually

> Cheryl, I remember reading this post when it first came in,

but I didn't respond. As I was going through some old post that I

hadn't read yet, I happened to see this one again. The first time I

read it, which was just 3 days ago, I remember thinking as I read

the above line, " oh, to be able to find that much contentment in one

Hersheys Treasure " But you know? I think I already get that one

little something like that CAN be just enough to round out a meal or

for just a little treat. I'm a recovering " eat the whole bag, if

any " person. Does that make me a binger? Seriously. I have a bit

of a problem with thinking of myself as a binger, but I guess you

could call me that, since I really could eat whole bags of little

miniature candies in one sitting. hmmm....this self evaluation

thing is pretty tough.

>

> Leisa

>

[Guest guest]

I've used that stomach/fist size analogy with my kids and my mother-

in-law, she is always trying to get them to eat more, so I have

started pointing out that their stomachs are only as big as ther

fists so it makes sense that they only eat a couple of bites and are

then full. Just need to remember that more for me now, it's so hard

when it tastes so good.

> >>

> >> Leisa--

> >>

> >> I understand what you are saying. But, even if you are

a " binger " --

> >does it really change anything? You are still on this new journey-

-

> >intuitive eating. What a concept!! Trusting our bodies to know

what

> >it wants and how much.

> >>

> >> I think it is very important for us to legalize ALL foods. Some

> >foods give me more trouble than others--and so I limit my

exposure

> >to them, or put things in place to control how much of it I can

have

> >(like buying individual bags of chips, or only having an ice

cream

> >out instead of buying a half gallon, or getting one cookie at the

> >bakery instead of buying a whole bag) I presume that when I am

more

> >consistently successful at eating between h/f having these things

> >around won't be so much of a problem. As a matter of fact, I know

it

> >gets to that point from past experience.

> >>

> >> I think once we really lose the diet mentality of good

foods/bad

> >foods we can then choose to eat more healthfully. It is hard

enough

> >to realize (internally) that it isn't the food, it is how I eat

the

> >food, that I can't really be doing what is good for me and what

> >isn't right now.

> >>

> >> When I did WD and lost 20 lbs I ate chocolate everyday--but it

was

> >a Lindt's truffle or a few peanut M & M's. I also ate whatever I

> >wanted--between h/f and it was wonderfully freeing not to be

doing

> >the dieting dance I'd done for so many years. Once I got the good

> >food/bad food thing out of the way, I listened to what my body

> >wanted--and it wanted fruit for its sweetness, or a salad with

crisp

> >vegetables when I wanted something crunchy. No one was more

amazed

> >than I was when that happened. I thought for sure I'd be eating

junk

> >for the rest of my life.

> >>

> >> Cheryl

> >>

> >>

> >> Re: newbie!

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >> buy Hershey's Treasures (they are little treasure boxes with

> >something inside--I like the caramel ones) and I have one after

> >dinner while my husband does the dishes. It rounds out my meal

and

> >usually

> >> Cheryl, I remember reading this post when it first came in,

> >but I didn't respond. As I was going through some old post that

I

> >hadn't read yet, I happened to see this one again. The first

time I

> >read it, which was just 3 days ago, I remember thinking as I read

> >the above line, " oh, to be able to find that much contentment in

one

> >Hersheys Treasure " But you know? I think I already get that one

> >little something like that CAN be just enough to round out a meal

or

> >for just a little treat. I'm a recovering " eat the whole bag, if

> >any " person. Does that make me a binger? Seriously. I have a

bit

> >of a problem with thinking of myself as a binger, but I guess you

> >could call me that, since I really could eat whole bags of little

> >miniature candies in one sitting. hmmm....this self evaluation

> >thing is pretty tough.

> >>

> >> Leisa

> >>

> >

> >

>