Re: I am so frustrated and mad at the school system

[Guest guest]

Robin

You vent all you want that's what we all do. Please tell us what state you

are in so we can give you more advice about who to possible contact. I am in

PA and here there are ANY parents advocates that can help.

G

[Guest guest]

Robin -

I agree that the school is trying to give you the run-around. As far as I'm

concerned, the SCHOOLS are the ones that are not qualified to decided which

services your child needs.

Which " law " was she referring to when she said " that by law he does not

qualify for the school program? " I'd ask to see that law.

oh...and BTW...the schools don't give services for free. They get funding,

and the SLP's, OT's and PT's get paid. Does your SLP understand IDEA? And

why is the SLP calling you to tell you this? A meeting should be held and

you should be told IN WRITING why services are being denied.

You DON'T have to put up with this... Where are you again?

Penny

[Guest guest]

Robin, what an awful position to be put in. I know a lot of the ladies on

this list have been in your shoes.... having to prove to others that their

child IS indeed behind, delayed, autistic, whatever.

No parent should have to be put in a place where the burden of proof is on

them. You would hope that it is the school trying to convince the parent to

" see the light " about their child, not the other way around.

Fight the school. Just keep at it, and don't just make threats. Give them

warnings and follow through.

Like you said -- it's total bullsh*t!

Sorry you're going through this....

Grace

I am so frustrated and mad at the school system

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> I am so frustrated and mad at the school system. The speech pathologist

call me this morning from my son school. And she told me that my son will

not qualify for the speech services. She said he was drop from the program

at the age of 5 because they felt he did not need it anymore. She said even

though I had him tested at children's that does not qualify for services at

school. Even though they are recommending him to have 2 to 3 times a week

speech therapy. She told me that by law he does not qualify for the school

program and that these medical professional are only out there for the money

not for our kids. That the schools does this for free and they do it for the

kids. Which is such bullsh**!! Sorry about my french! Even told her about

the in home program that my son receives from the aba program. And she told

me they are not qualified to tell me that my son needs speech either. And

that they are not train to do so. She did not sound like she approved of

this aba program at all. And then too top it off she said that they don't

see my son is being autistic at all. Telling me that he is well liked and is

well behaved. The only problem he has academic delays which is being

address. Even though speech, ot and pt recommend he have these services at

school. The school keeps telling me that he won't be able to get these

services. Even with the IQ testing that I had done at children either did

not make a difference. She told me that he does not meet the criteria for

the services. That they go by much lower score. For instance he is 7 half

and probably at a 5 year level. The only way he could get services is the

score fell way below a 5 year level like 3 year level would get him the

services. Which again is such bullsh**!!!!!!!!! Why should my son have to

keep struggling with all his delays and not get the help he needs. And I

have not heard anything about him failing this year at all. I don't think he

is ready for 2nd grade. He is below average and I think he is being pushed

through the system. I am my children's mom and will not let them push my

kids through the system when they deserve alot more. I am a mom on a mission

to help my children get the best education they deserve and nothing less!

Sorry so long but I needed to vent! Thank you for listening to me.

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> Robin

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> SAHM of 2 , 7 yr. son has adhd, bipolar and pdd, 4 yr daughter has pdd and

adhd.

> http://www.msnusers.com/specialchildrenwithspecialneeds Yahoo IM:

momsmission2

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[Guest guest]

Vent away Robin. Sometimes the so-called experts don't know sh** about our kids!

You are doing your job as their mother to get them the help they need and

deserve...

(inAus)

I am so frustrated and mad at the school system

[Guest guest]

Robin

You've had some good advice from Penny and Pam...very good advice ladies )

Listen to them...they're experts...

(inAus)

I am so frustrated and mad at the school system

[Guest guest]

Robin,

What state do you live in? Please let me know and I'll help find you a parent

advocate.

Also, you can post your questions to a yahoo group called IEP_guide usually

a pretty busy list with a lot of experienced, knowledgable folks.

-BJ in polis, MD

[Guest guest]

Robin,

It sounds like you really need an advocate. Once again, call disability groups

in your area. Tell them the whole story. If nothing else, there are bound to

be parents in your area that have fought battles like yours and won who can tell

you what they did.

Also, there's a EIP group at Yahoo that has some great info on handling schools

and their excuses. I don't remember the name of the group offhand (anybody else

know it?), but if you search they groups for " EIP " you'll get it.

B

I am so frustrated and mad at the school system

I am so frustrated and mad at the school system. The speech pathologist call

me this morning from my son school. And she told me that my son will not qualify

for the speech services. She said he was drop from the program at the age of 5

because they felt he did not need it anymore. She said even though I had him

tested at children's that does not qualify for services at school. Even though

they are recommending him to have 2 to 3 times a week speech therapy. She told

me that by law he does not qualify for the school program and that these medical

professional are only out there for the money not for our kids. That the schools

does this for free and they do it for the kids. Which is such bullsh**!! Sorry

about my french! Even told her about the in home program that my son receives

from the aba program. And she told me they are not qualified to tell me that my

son needs speech either. And that they are not train to do so. She did not sound

like she approved of this aba program at all. And then too top it off she said

that they don't see my son is being autistic at all. Telling me that he is well

liked and is well behaved. The only problem he has academic delays which is

being address. Even though speech, ot and pt recommend he have these services at

school. The school keeps telling me that he won't be able to get these services.

Even with the IQ testing that I had done at children either did not make a

difference. She told me that he does not meet the criteria for the services.

That they go by much lower score. For instance he is 7 half and probably at a 5

year level. The only way he could get services is the score fell way below a 5

year level like 3 year level would get him the services. Which again is such

bullsh**!!!!!!!!! Why should my son have to keep struggling with all his delays

and not get the help he needs. And I have not heard anything about him failing

this year at all. I don't think he is ready for 2nd grade. He is below average

and I think he is being pushed through the system. I am my children's mom and

will not let them push my kids through the system when they deserve alot more. I

am a mom on a mission to help my children get the best education they deserve

and nothing less! Sorry so long but I needed to vent! Thank you for listening to

me.

Robin

SAHM of 2 , 7 yr. son has adhd, bipolar and pdd, 4 yr daughter has pdd and

adhd.

http://www.msnusers.com/specialchildrenwithspecialneeds Yahoo IM: momsmission2

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[Guest guest]

Thank you, BJ! I knew someone would have specifics. I'm having trouble

remembering my own name today.

Wen umm, Whatshername

Re: I am so frustrated and mad at the school

system

Robin,

What state do you live in? Please let me know and I'll help find you a parent

advocate.

Also, you can post your questions to a yahoo group called IEP_guide usually

a pretty busy list with a lot of experienced, knowledgable folks.

-BJ in polis, MD

[Guest guest]

Robin,

I have the same problem with my school system on the speech. They don't

test for the type of problems my son has.

If they haven't done an actual evaluation of him at the school, put in

writing that you want him to have a full evaluation for speech and language,

fine and gross motor skills. You can even request the autism evaluation

since everything he'll get at school depends on his being diagnosed by the

school. If you don't want them to do it, you can request it be done by your

intermediate school district. Be sure to send the letter certified mail so

you have proof they received it, and they have to comply within 30 days!

Keep fighting, and start learning all you can about your rights.

Sue

[Guest guest]

Robin:

I know you have had a lot of good advice from others on this list, but they

really can't get away with this stuff forever. Keep insisting and be a real

pain and maybe they will give him the supports he needs.

Sorry you are going through this.

Salli