Re: I'll Be a Grandma Monday

[Guest guest]

Hi, Ann. Welcome to the group! I just wanted to

say congratulations on being a grandma and

congratulations to your daughter on a successful UU

pregnancy!

I do not know the answer to your question, but I am

sure someone here will. I am curious about the

cerclage your daughter had, though. Did her doctor do

it early on in the pregnancy or did they see the

cervix opening in the 2nd trimester and they did it

then? Just curious since that was my biggest concern

in my pregnancy. I am currently 24 weeks and do not

have a cerclage. So far so good, though!

Best of luck to you and your daughter!

Neal

EDD 12/1/01

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[Guest guest]

In a message dated 8/10/2001 1:18:56 AM Central Daylight Time,

msanford@... writes:

> On searching for information on UU they talk about

> taking out the ovary that is not connected. If this is something that

> is for the best, wouldn't during the c-section be a good time to

>

I think that is just too much. A csection is major abdominal surgery and

cutting into a uterus that is already at risk for rupture and bleeding out

adds additional risk. Adding something else in my opinion would be foolish.

Also, just in case you didn't know, but indcucing agents are ill advised, so

even if your daughter's baby turns, which is unlikely, I personally feel that

using inducing agents to start up later will and can cause additional

problems.

Lately I have been reading articles online and at our local medical library

about using inducing agents, even pit to help the uterus contract after

delivery or a csection, can be dangerous for people with mullerian anomalies.

I wish your daughter so much luck on Monday! How wonderful it is that she

made it this far with her first baby! Congrats.

Kim2

[Guest guest]

Congratulations! I am glad to hear that things have gone well for your daughter.

You'll have to let us know how things go on Monday!

Faith

[Guest guest]

Congratulations! I am glad to hear that things have gone well for your daughter.

You'll have to let us know how things go on Monday!

Faith

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 8/10/2001 10:02:34 AM Central Daylight Time, lia@...

writes:

> I was just interested about the specifics you've read regarding

> inducing agents. I have UD and had pitocin for both of my labors,

> and was actually induced for my second baby, as I was more than 10

> days overdue and the baby wasn't growing anymore. I did not

> experience any ill effects and both the kids were fine, nursed right

> away, were alert, didn't have any issues that I've been able to

> notice. I just wonder what the possible complications can be, as I

> am likely to go that route again (having pit to help my contractions)

> with my third.

I have been reading that using inducing agents on patients who have uterine

anomalies increases there chance of rupture more than 30%, all the other

associated risks with using inducing agents more than triple in patients with

uterine anomailies, not to mention fetal stress or poor fetal outcome. I am

glad you have not had any of the complications. I do believe though that it

is foolish for a physician to give a patient an inducing agent with a uterine

anomaly. It seems a bit too risky too me.

Kim2

[Guest guest]

>

Hi ,

The doctors told my daughter she would have a cerclage from the get

go. They waited until after the first trimester because of the

medication and the risk to the baby. They did a spinal and she was in

quite a bit of pain afterwards and did have contractions but our

little one moved away from the area of the surgery and was hanging

on. She had to stay in the hospital overnight. She had the cerclage

on March 2 she was around 15 weeks pregnant. Then she went on bed

rest for a couple of weeks and couldn't drive for six weeks. She

could ride in a car but she couldn't drive.

Her doctor has treated her like a queen. They did a sonogram every

two weeks and she has had a doctor visit the every two weeks, so it

worked out that she was at the doctor every week. She has had no

problem with the cerclage. The baby was in the proper birthing

position but turned and doesn't seem to be able to turn back. If he

had remained head down, the stitch would have come out at 35 weeks.

Good luck with your little one. I'm surprised that you don't have a

cerclage, because that was the first thing they said they were going

to do. Getting to the week where it could be done was her first

milestone. Did your doctor say that they would do one if the cervix

started to open?

Ann

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[Guest guest]

First of all Ann, I have to say you are an amazing mother, just to be on

this list and so involved with your daughter! She is very lucky to have

such good supports. I just had to say as far as removing the

non-communicating ovary. I have not heard any arguments for it, but in the

people I have talked to, I would not do it. In my case, with my UU, I will

soon have to move onto IVF. In that case I will need good eggs maturing on

both sides to go thru with the cycle and not have the cycle cancelled after

all the meds and shots you go thru to get to that point. I also have met 2

others with UUs that have had tubal pgs and in the result, had their good

tube removed, leaving them only with the non-communicating ovary. So if she

plans on any more children, I would leave those babies in there!

I wish all of you lots of luck and good blessings with your new addition

soon to come.

Re: I'll Be a Grandma Monday

>

You are probably absolutely right. I just read things that made that

thought cross my mind. Since it isn't connected to anything and just

floating around, that was the description they gave me, I thought

they could just lift it out. Guess that isn't very realistic.

As far as a c-section goes, it seems to be a family tradition. I was

a c-section and my daughter was a c-section. My daughter is 5'2 " ,

small frame with tiny bones and her husband is over 6'6 " . The baby

weighted 4 lbs 6 oz at 31 weeks, so they think he is around 8 lbs

already. So my baby has half a uterus (mother's guilt trip here) and

she marries the Jolly Green Giant.

Ann

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[Guest guest]

First of all Ann, I have to say you are an amazing mother, just to be on

this list and so involved with your daughter! She is very lucky to have

such good supports. I just had to say as far as removing the

non-communicating ovary. I have not heard any arguments for it, but in the

people I have talked to, I would not do it. In my case, with my UU, I will

soon have to move onto IVF. In that case I will need good eggs maturing on

both sides to go thru with the cycle and not have the cycle cancelled after

all the meds and shots you go thru to get to that point. I also have met 2

others with UUs that have had tubal pgs and in the result, had their good

tube removed, leaving them only with the non-communicating ovary. So if she

plans on any more children, I would leave those babies in there!

I wish all of you lots of luck and good blessings with your new addition

soon to come.

Re: I'll Be a Grandma Monday

>

You are probably absolutely right. I just read things that made that

thought cross my mind. Since it isn't connected to anything and just

floating around, that was the description they gave me, I thought

they could just lift it out. Guess that isn't very realistic.

As far as a c-section goes, it seems to be a family tradition. I was

a c-section and my daughter was a c-section. My daughter is 5'2 " ,

small frame with tiny bones and her husband is over 6'6 " . The baby

weighted 4 lbs 6 oz at 31 weeks, so they think he is around 8 lbs

already. So my baby has half a uterus (mother's guilt trip here) and

she marries the Jolly Green Giant.

Ann

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[Guest guest]

>

You are probably absolutely right. I just read things that made that

thought cross my mind. Since it isn't connected to anything and just

floating around, that was the description they gave me, I thought

they could just lift it out. Guess that isn't very realistic.

As far as a c-section goes, it seems to be a family tradition. I was

a c-section and my daughter was a c-section. My daughter is 5'2 " ,

small frame with tiny bones and her husband is over 6'6 " . The baby

weighted 4 lbs 6 oz at 31 weeks, so they think he is around 8 lbs

already. So my baby has half a uterus (mother's guilt trip here) and

she marries the Jolly Green Giant.

Ann

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[Guest guest]

> Her doctor has treated her like a queen. They did a

> sonogram every

> two weeks and she has had a doctor visit the every

> two weeks, so it

> worked out that she was at the doctor every week.

Wow! Your daughter is so lucky to have found such a

great doctor! I wish that I had the extra attention

like that! I have thus far been treated as a " normal "

patient. Although, I think it has a lot to do with

being in Canada. When I was originally diagnosed

years ago in the states, they said I would need

surgery to correct the UD AND a cerclage! What a

difference. Where is your daughter's doctor?

Did your doctor say that they would do

> one if the cervix

> started to open?

Yes, I was getting ultrasounds every 3 weeks to

monitor the length of the cervix. If it had started

to significantly shorten, they would have done a

cerclage. However, I am at 24 weeks now and my last

u/s was at 20 weeks and I am not scheduled for another

U/s until week 28! I don't know why the big gap now,

I thought they gap would be getting smaller between

u/s's! Anyway, I am getting reg. OB appt's. every 2

weeks now.

Again, good luck and congratulations!

EDD Dec. 1, 2001

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[Guest guest]

> Her doctor has treated her like a queen. They did a

> sonogram every

> two weeks and she has had a doctor visit the every

> two weeks, so it

> worked out that she was at the doctor every week.

Wow! Your daughter is so lucky to have found such a

great doctor! I wish that I had the extra attention

like that! I have thus far been treated as a " normal "

patient. Although, I think it has a lot to do with

being in Canada. When I was originally diagnosed

years ago in the states, they said I would need

surgery to correct the UD AND a cerclage! What a

difference. Where is your daughter's doctor?

Did your doctor say that they would do

> one if the cervix

> started to open?

Yes, I was getting ultrasounds every 3 weeks to

monitor the length of the cervix. If it had started

to significantly shorten, they would have done a

cerclage. However, I am at 24 weeks now and my last

u/s was at 20 weeks and I am not scheduled for another

U/s until week 28! I don't know why the big gap now,

I thought they gap would be getting smaller between

u/s's! Anyway, I am getting reg. OB appt's. every 2

weeks now.

Again, good luck and congratulations!

EDD Dec. 1, 2001

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[Guest guest]

Hi Ann,

I just wanted to caution you that US assessments of the baby's weight

are not always accurate. This is particularly true towards the end

of the pregnancy when the baby is very crowded and there is little

amniotic fluid left due to lack of space. In my case, they assessed

my son to be 7 lbs 8 oz at my 39 week US, I delivered 3 days later

and he weighed just over 6 lbs. I was very surprised that they could

be more than a pound off, but it could happen. Just my experience,

but I thought I'd share it in case you get any surprises. Best of

luck on your impending arrival, it's such an exciting time, isn't it?

Lia

EDD Jan 28, 02

[Guest guest]

Hi Ann,

I just wanted to caution you that US assessments of the baby's weight

are not always accurate. This is particularly true towards the end

of the pregnancy when the baby is very crowded and there is little

amniotic fluid left due to lack of space. In my case, they assessed

my son to be 7 lbs 8 oz at my 39 week US, I delivered 3 days later

and he weighed just over 6 lbs. I was very surprised that they could

be more than a pound off, but it could happen. Just my experience,

but I thought I'd share it in case you get any surprises. Best of

luck on your impending arrival, it's such an exciting time, isn't it?

Lia

EDD Jan 28, 02

[Guest guest]

Hi Kim,

I was just interested about the specifics you've read regarding

inducing agents. I have UD and had pitocin for both of my labors,

and was actually induced for my second baby, as I was more than 10

days overdue and the baby wasn't growing anymore. I did not

experience any ill effects and both the kids were fine, nursed right

away, were alert, didn't have any issues that I've been able to

notice. I just wonder what the possible complications can be, as I

am likely to go that route again (having pit to help my contractions)

with my third. Thanks.

Lia

EDD Jan 28, 2002

[Guest guest]

Hi Kim,

I was just interested about the specifics you've read regarding

inducing agents. I have UD and had pitocin for both of my labors,

and was actually induced for my second baby, as I was more than 10

days overdue and the baby wasn't growing anymore. I did not

experience any ill effects and both the kids were fine, nursed right

away, were alert, didn't have any issues that I've been able to

notice. I just wonder what the possible complications can be, as I

am likely to go that route again (having pit to help my contractions)

with my third. Thanks.

Lia

EDD Jan 28, 2002

[Guest guest]

Hi Kim,

I was just interested about the specifics you've read regarding

inducing agents. I have UD and had pitocin for both of my labors,

and was actually induced for my second baby, as I was more than 10

days overdue and the baby wasn't growing anymore. I did not

experience any ill effects and both the kids were fine, nursed right

away, were alert, didn't have any issues that I've been able to

notice. I just wonder what the possible complications can be, as I

am likely to go that route again (having pit to help my contractions)

with my third. Thanks.

Lia

EDD Jan 28, 2002

[Guest guest]

My daughter is in Florida. The doctor is wonderful. He must spend his

life at the hospital. Any little thing and she is seen right away. He

has had the baby measured and cervix checked so many times that we

developed a personal relationship with the girl doing the sonograms.

The doctor said last week that he had hoped for thirty weeks and is

tickled to death with her carrying him this long.

Her doctor is named Willie Newman. He was the son of a disabled

orange picker and had to go to work to support his mother and had no

father in his life. He picked oranges, mowed lawns, and helped

mid-wives deliver babies. Some doctors in Sanford, FL became aware of

him and got together and sent him to the University where he

graduated top of his class and then on to medical school where he

also graduated top of his class. He also has a law degree. He is so

caring and donates time to women who can't afford medical treatment.

My daughter went to him because of all the wonderful stories she

heard from people she knew. She has a friend that was told by two

doctors that her baby was dead and she needed a D & C, she went for yet

another opinion and Dr. Newman told her her baby was just fine but

attached in an unusual location. Thanks to him she now has a

beautiful baby boy. The man is a workaholic. He is always there for

her. He delivers each baby as if it were his first and says it is his

baby until he hands it over. He has also been know to physically

remove fathers from the area who are abusive to his mothers. One lady

had no way to the doctor's appointment and he either picked her up or

sent someone from his office to get her. He holds the record for

delivering the most babies in Florida and has been on Oprah. I think

he makes every mother feel SPECIAL. A few weeks ago, when we were in

the hospital, he was coming down the isle and a nurse ran up and

hugged him with a congratulations. One of his patients had called

into a radio station about him and he had been selected as the Hero

of the Week. I know he is my hero. He listened to what my daughter

told him. He checked her out, even though there was no medical reason

to do so (just a feeling). His concern for a patient he had never

seen before, probably saved my grandson's life. Everyone pray for him

on Monday. His name is Miles.

Ann

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[Guest guest]

My daughter is in Florida. The doctor is wonderful. He must spend his

life at the hospital. Any little thing and she is seen right away. He

has had the baby measured and cervix checked so many times that we

developed a personal relationship with the girl doing the sonograms.

The doctor said last week that he had hoped for thirty weeks and is

tickled to death with her carrying him this long.

Her doctor is named Willie Newman. He was the son of a disabled

orange picker and had to go to work to support his mother and had no

father in his life. He picked oranges, mowed lawns, and helped

mid-wives deliver babies. Some doctors in Sanford, FL became aware of

him and got together and sent him to the University where he

graduated top of his class and then on to medical school where he

also graduated top of his class. He also has a law degree. He is so

caring and donates time to women who can't afford medical treatment.

My daughter went to him because of all the wonderful stories she

heard from people she knew. She has a friend that was told by two

doctors that her baby was dead and she needed a D & C, she went for yet

another opinion and Dr. Newman told her her baby was just fine but

attached in an unusual location. Thanks to him she now has a

beautiful baby boy. The man is a workaholic. He is always there for

her. He delivers each baby as if it were his first and says it is his

baby until he hands it over. He has also been know to physically

remove fathers from the area who are abusive to his mothers. One lady

had no way to the doctor's appointment and he either picked her up or

sent someone from his office to get her. He holds the record for

delivering the most babies in Florida and has been on Oprah. I think

he makes every mother feel SPECIAL. A few weeks ago, when we were in

the hospital, he was coming down the isle and a nurse ran up and

hugged him with a congratulations. One of his patients had called

into a radio station about him and he had been selected as the Hero

of the Week. I know he is my hero. He listened to what my daughter

told him. He checked her out, even though there was no medical reason

to do so (just a feeling). His concern for a patient he had never

seen before, probably saved my grandson's life. Everyone pray for him

on Monday. His name is Miles.

Ann

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[Guest guest]

So my baby has half a uterus (mother's

> guilt trip here) and

> she marries the Jolly Green Giant.

Haha! Don't go on a guilt trip! It is NOT your

fault! My mother feels the same way, though, so I

understand. She has been on a bunch of sites and

posts like this one trying to find out what she did

wrong. She has even gone so far as to become a

regular at her local church to pray for me ever since

the day I told her I was pregnant! (She hadn't been

to church since Christmas Eve, 1986! haha)

EDD 12/1/01

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[Guest guest]

Lia,

We were told to plus or minus 11 oz. He has been measured at every

sonogram and has gained around 9 oz a week. So we don't know the

exact amount but we do know he is gaining. I'm off to babysit.

Ann

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[Guest guest]

My daughter talked to the doctor today. She told him that people were

planning to take off work and needed to know for sure if he was doing

the c-section on Monday. He told her to pack her bags for a four or

five day stay in the hospital, but he may not do the section. He told

her he was going to do tests to see if Miles was fully developed. If

he wasn't he would not do the c-section, he didn't care how

uncomfortable she was. 8-) So we will have to just wait and see. This

has seemed like years instead of nine months.

This list is great. Wish I had found it sooner. My husband and my

mother didn't want to talk about the baby, thought it was bad luck.

Ann

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[Guest guest]

In a message dated 8/10/2001 9:47:16 PM Central Daylight Time,

msanford@... writes:

> He told her to pack her bags for a four or

> five day stay in the hospital, but he may not do the section. He told

> her he was going to do tests to see if Miles was fully developed. If

> he wasn't he would not do the c-section, he didn't care how

>

I am not sure how far along your daughter is, but if she is 37+ weeks I would

think the baby is fully developed. I hope to god my doctor does not make this

comment to me. Last time, my ribs got broke, I had difficulty breathing, and

I was so " uncomfortable " I spent most of my days crying. I made it very clear

to my new OB that if I end up in this state again that I want to be

csectioned. I also do not want to risk uterine rupture by trying to push it

to its limits.

I hope the baby will let them know that he is ready to come and your daughter

will have an uneventful delivery.

Kim2

[Guest guest]

they said I would need

> surgery to correct the UD

What surgery is there to correct UD??? Other than vaginal septum

removal?

[Guest guest]

Everyone pray for him

> on Monday. His name is Miles.

You can count on it, Ann. Your daughter is lucky to have a mom

like you!

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 8/11/2001 12:28:04 PM Central Daylight Time,

ulakauppi@... writes:

> But if someone has delivered

> vaginally in the past and doesn't have a uterine

> incision/scar, why is it a problem?

>

Because the uterus is already irritated and compromised. There is a risk of

rupture with a malformed uterus, it increases with the use of inducting

agnets.