Re: diet triggers and such

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Hey there, Vicki!

>> Thin people overeat, sometimes. Thin people do not constantly

weigh

> themselves. Thin people do not set diet goals. Thin people eat

when they

> are hungry and, most of the time, stop when they are full; they

don't like

> to feel stuffed.

Thank you for posting that. That's how I feel. I went back in the

posts and was reading the thread on scales. It is definitely a

personal choice as to whether or not to weigh, but as for me, I

asked my son to take my scale and put it somewhere I couldn't find

it. I am not ready to throw it out, but the scale enslaves me. If

I am up, I am depressed and I binge. If I am down, it's probably

not as much as I wanted to be, so I binge. I just want to get to a

point where I can look in the mirror and appreciate what I see. I

do not want to judge my body by anyone else's standards anymore.

Does anyone else feel this way?

~Kami

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I am sorry but I don’t care for the Thin Within book. It reads like a diet to me. When I read yesterday the part about setting a goal, I wanted to throw that book down and give it a swift kick. But I couldn’t do that because I borrowed it from the library. Goals, my dear friends, are diet terms. We all want to be a certain size and weight but to kick our overeating impulsive behavior we can not focus on the scale.

*** I agree that we don't need to focus on the scale. But, I think it *is* okay -- personal opinion -- to set goals for yourself. Not just with losing/releasing weight, but in anything. I think that, if you don't have a goal that you're striving for, then you don't have a clear vision of where you want to end up. And, if that's the case, you have nothing to keep you motivated to keep going when you slip. :-? Again, this is my personal opinion.... I'm not hacking on you for the way you see it. You're allowed to not like goals/see them as a "diet". ;o)

Thin people overeat, sometimes. Thin people do not constantly weigh themselves. Thin people do not set diet goals. Thin people eat when they are hungry and, most of the time, stop when they are full; they don’t like to feel stuffed.

*** Technically, thin people wouldn't *need* diet goals! LOL. Heavier people might. ;o)

I would like to know how long everyone here has been practicing I. E. and what books or programs they have read or done.

*** I've been doing IE for just over a year now, using... Thin Within. ;o) And, personally, I love it. I don't see it as a diet ... I see it as the only program that's EVER worked for me! I've tried many in the last 7 years, and some worked temporarily ... but all were too complicated or restricting for me to keep up for life. Thin Within is just right -- for me.

I think we all have to find what works right for us. Some programs work for some, other programs work for others. And, for some, a combination of many things is what works. No one program is the be-all/end-all for every person. So, I won't shove TW down anyone's throat, nor would I ever say it's the "only thing" that works.

I'm glad you're here, Vicki. )

Jenn <><

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Yes! I want to think that way too!!! This morning I put my scale up out of reach in the top of my closet and I am not going to be weighing myself anymore. It's inconsequential what that number says. What counts is that I'm in tune with my h/f, I'm eating foods that make me feel healthy, strong and vibrant, I'm pursuing activities that make me feel alive (kayaking, hiking, swimming, walking). I'm taking care of myself, in other words, and I'm making peace with my body shape. Yesterday my stepmom took a bunch of pictures of us kayaking (see www.dropshots.com/aprilmae if you're interested) and the only thing I saw was how fat my arms look in all the pics... I wasn't able to appreciate the beauty of the scenery, the joy on my son's face, the happiness in MY face... that's ALL I could see in those pictures. I want to get to the point where my weight is irrelevant to my life, and what matters is making memories, loving life and living it to the fullest.

April

-----Original Message-----From: IntuitiveEating_Support [mailto:IntuitiveEating_Support ]On Behalf Of diet_rebelSent: Sunday, July 23, 2006 2:49 PMTo: IntuitiveEating_Support Subject: Re: diet triggers and such

Hey there, Vicki!>> Thin people overeat, sometimes. Thin people do not constantly weigh> themselves. Thin people do not set diet goals. Thin people eat when they> are hungry and, most of the time, stop when they are full; they don't like> to feel stuffed. Thank you for posting that. That's how I feel. I went back in the posts and was reading the thread on scales. It is definitely a personal choice as to whether or not to weigh, but as for me, I asked my son to take my scale and put it somewhere I couldn't find it. I am not ready to throw it out, but the scale enslaves me. If I am up, I am depressed and I binge. If I am down, it's probably not as much as I wanted to be, so I binge. I just want to get to a point where I can look in the mirror and appreciate what I see. I do not want to judge my body by anyone else's standards anymore. Does anyone else feel this way?~Kami

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Isn't it funny how we look at ourselves with such critisism? We

don't look at other people that way. It is really the inside that

counts and we know of all kinds of lovely people of all

sizes.

>

> Yes! I want to think that way too!!! This morning I put my scale

up out of

> reach in the top of my closet and I am not going to be weighing

myself

> anymore. It's inconsequential what that number says. What counts

is that I'm

> in tune with my h/f, I'm eating foods that make me feel healthy,

strong and

> vibrant, I'm pursuing activities that make me feel alive

(kayaking, hiking,

> swimming, walking). I'm taking care of myself, in other words, and

I'm

> making peace with my body shape. Yesterday my stepmom took a bunch

of

> pictures of us kayaking (see www.dropshots.com/aprilmae if you're

> interested) and the only thing I saw was how fat my arms look in

all the

> pics... I wasn't able to appreciate the beauty of the scenery, the

joy on my

> son's face, the happiness in MY face... that's ALL I could see in

those

> pictures. I want to get to the point where my weight is irrelevant

to my

> life, and what matters is making memories, loving life and living

it to the

> fullest.

>

> April

> Re: diet triggers and such

>

>

> Hey there, Vicki!

>

> >> Thin people overeat, sometimes. Thin people do not constantly

> weigh

> > themselves. Thin people do not set diet goals. Thin people eat

> when they

> > are hungry and, most of the time, stop when they are full; they

> don't like

> > to feel stuffed.

>

> Thank you for posting that. That's how I feel. I went back in the

> posts and was reading the thread on scales. It is definitely a

> personal choice as to whether or not to weigh, but as for me, I

> asked my son to take my scale and put it somewhere I couldn't

find

> it. I am not ready to throw it out, but the scale enslaves me. If

> I am up, I am depressed and I binge. If I am down, it's probably

> not as much as I wanted to be, so I binge. I just want to get to

a

> point where I can look in the mirror and appreciate what I see. I

> do not want to judge my body by anyone else's standards anymore.

> Does anyone else feel this way?

>

> ~Kami

>

[Guest guest]

I agree! When you start talking to yourself like that, don't forget to be your own friend and talk to yourself like a friend would! If that were one of your friends in the picture, you wouldn't say "Gosh, it looks like a nice day out, but all I can notice is your fat arms!" Your friend would probably think you were the rudest thing ever! But yet we say stuff like that to ourselves all the time. Try to talk to yourself like a friend would and notice things that your friends would notice. For example, when I looked at the picture, I didn't even think twice about your arms! I thought you looked really nice and like you were having fun! Carol wrote: Isn't it funny how we look at ourselves with such critisism? We don't look at other people that way. It is really the inside that counts and we know of all kinds of lovely people of all sizes. >> Yes! I want to think that way too!!! This morning I put my scale up out of> reach in the top of my closet and I am not going to be weighing myself> anymore. It's inconsequential what that number says. What counts is that I'm> in tune with my h/f, I'm eating foods that make me feel healthy, strong and> vibrant, I'm pursuing activities that

make me feel alive (kayaking, hiking,> swimming, walking). I'm taking care of myself, in other words, and I'm> making peace with my body shape. Yesterday my stepmom took a bunch of> pictures of us kayaking (see www.dropshots.com/aprilmae if you're> interested) and the only thing I saw was how fat my arms look in all the> pics... I wasn't able to appreciate the beauty of the scenery, the joy on my> son's face, the happiness in MY face... that's ALL I could see in those> pictures. I want to get to the point where my weight is irrelevant to my> life, and what matters is making memories, loving life and living it to the> fullest.> > April> Re: diet triggers and such> > > Hey there, Vicki!> > >> Thin people overeat, sometimes. Thin people do not constantly> weigh> > themselves. Thin people do not set diet goals. Thin people eat> when they> > are hungry and, most of the time, stop when they are full; they> don't like> > to feel stuffed.> > Thank you for posting that. That's how I feel. I went back in the> posts and was reading the thread on scales. It is definitely a> personal choice as to whether or not to weigh, but as for me, I> asked

my son to take my scale and put it somewhere I couldn't find> it. I am not ready to throw it out, but the scale enslaves me. If> I am up, I am depressed and I binge. If I am down, it's probably> not as much as I wanted to be, so I binge. I just want to get to a> point where I can look in the mirror and appreciate what I see. I> do not want to judge my body by anyone else's standards anymore.> Does anyone else feel this way?> > ~Kami>

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See, I had the exact same thought when I was looking at my stepmom's pic. I thought she looked lovely... she looked at it and said "oh my... my hair looks awful!" LOL I have a theory about this. When I look at a picture of someone, I'm thinking of them as an animated person, with expression and personality. When I look at a picture of myself, I just see what my mirror reflection shows me. A flat, one dimensional type person, without any of the expression or personality other's see. I'm just concerned about the cosmetic appearance, not a whole person... Is my hair okay, do my arms look fat, is my bulge showing? I find I often view myself as being one dimensional, and part of my healing has been finding more dimensions of my personality.

Re: diet triggers and such> > > Hey there, Vicki!> > >> Thin people overeat, sometimes. Thin people do not constantly> weigh> > themselves. Thin people do not set diet goals. Thin people eat> when they> > are hungry and, most of the time, stop when they are full; they> don't like> > to feel stuffed.> > Thank you for posting that. That's how I feel. I went back in the> posts and was reading the thread on scales. It is definitely a> personal choice as to whether or not to weigh, but as for me, I> asked my son to take my scale and put it somewhere I couldn't find> it. I am not ready to throw it out, but the scale enslaves me. If> I am up, I am depressed and I binge. If I am down, it's probably> not as much as I wanted to be, so I binge. I just want to get to a> point where I can look in the mirror and appreciate what I see. I> do not want to judge my body by anyone else's standards anymore.> Does anyone else feel this way?> > ~Kami>

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Jenn,

Sounds like a good source of happiness!

Vicki

From:

IntuitiveEating_Support

[mailto:IntuitiveEating_Support ] On Behalf Of Jenn S.

Sent: Monday, July 24, 2006 6:05

PM

To:

IntuitiveEating_Support

Subject: RE:

Re: diet triggers and such

LOL... I just remembered something I saw in a THRiVE! women's

conference this past year... Liz Curtis Higgs (Christian author) was talking

about looking in her mirror...

She said that it's great therapy to look at yourself in the mirror,

throw your arms both up in the air, and shout " Ta Da! " .... Putting

your arms up in the air gives a little lift to your two " friends "

(LOL) --which'll make ANY woman happier I'd think! LOL---, and shouting TA-DA!,

you can't help but get a kick out of that! LOL

Try it! I dare ya! ;-P

Jenn

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[Guest guest]

My favorite far side comic by Larson is of 2 panels of flowers, one on top of the other.

The top- they are as we see them...

below it, they all have eyes, long noses and mouths in different laughable "funny" faces.

Caption: How we see flowers, how flowers see themselves (in each pane). Whenever I am feeling ugly I think of this comic. Works every time.

LJ

[Guest guest]

April~

EXACTLY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I am so

glad you put your scale away too. It is evil! You look beautiful!

Thank you for posting your pix-your son is a doll. I want to look

at pictures of me and love them for the memories, not despise what I

perceive to be flaws.

~Kami

>

> Yes! I want to think that way too!!! This morning I put my scale

up out of

> reach in the top of my closet and I am not going to be weighing

myself

> anymore. It's inconsequential what that number says. What counts

is that I'm

> in tune with my h/f, I'm eating foods that make me feel healthy,

strong and

> vibrant, I'm pursuing activities that make me feel alive

(kayaking, hiking,

> swimming, walking). I'm taking care of myself, in other words, and

I'm

> making peace with my body shape. Yesterday my stepmom took a bunch

of

> pictures of us kayaking (see www.dropshots.com/aprilmae if you're

> interested) and the only thing I saw was how fat my arms look in

all the

> pics... I wasn't able to appreciate the beauty of the scenery, the

joy on my

> son's face, the happiness in MY face... that's ALL I could see in

those

> pictures. I want to get to the point where my weight is irrelevant

to my

> life, and what matters is making memories, loving life and living

it to the

> fullest.

>

> April

> Re: diet triggers and such

>

>

> Hey there, Vicki!

>

> >> Thin people overeat, sometimes. Thin people do not constantly

> weigh

> > themselves. Thin people do not set diet goals. Thin people eat

> when they

> > are hungry and, most of the time, stop when they are full; they

> don't like

> > to feel stuffed.

>

> Thank you for posting that. That's how I feel. I went back in the

> posts and was reading the thread on scales. It is definitely a

> personal choice as to whether or not to weigh, but as for me, I

> asked my son to take my scale and put it somewhere I couldn't

find

> it. I am not ready to throw it out, but the scale enslaves me. If

> I am up, I am depressed and I binge. If I am down, it's probably

> not as much as I wanted to be, so I binge. I just want to get to

a

> point where I can look in the mirror and appreciate what I see. I

> do not want to judge my body by anyone else's standards anymore.

> Does anyone else feel this way?

>

> ~Kami

>

[Guest guest]

Thank you... I think he's pretty cute myself... hehe

-----Original Message-----From: IntuitiveEating_Support [mailto:IntuitiveEating_Support ]On Behalf Of Jenn S.Sent: Monday, July 24, 2006 3:46 PMTo: IntuitiveEating_Support Subject: RE: Re: diet triggers and such

Your little guy's a cutie, April! Thanks for sharing the pics! )

And, congrats on hiding your scale! :-D

Jenn

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-----Original Message-----

Yes! I want to think that way too!!! This morning I put my scale up out of reach in the top of my closet and I am not going to be weighing myself anymore. It's inconsequential what that number says. What counts is that I'm in tune with my h/f, I'm eating foods that make me feel healthy, strong and vibrant, I'm pursuing activities that make me feel alive (kayaking, hiking, swimming, walking). I'm taking care of myself, in other words, and I'm making peace with my body shape. Yesterday my stepmom took a bunch of pictures of us kayaking (see www.dropshots.com/aprilmae if you're interested)

http://mizbooksreads.blogspot.com

http://intuitive-eating.blogspot.com

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/IntuitiveEating_Support

* NEVER DIET AGAIN! *

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You're too sweet, Kami... and thank you... My son is just as beautiful in personality as he looks... *grin*

Re: diet triggers and such> > > Hey there, Vicki!> > >> Thin people overeat, sometimes. Thin people do not constantly> weigh> > themselves. Thin people do not set diet goals. Thin people eat> when they> > are hungry and, most of the time, stop when they are full; they> don't like> > to feel stuffed.> > Thank you for posting that. That's how I feel. I went back in the> posts and was reading the thread on scales. It is definitely a> personal choice as to whether or not to weigh, but as for me, I> asked my son to take my scale and put it somewhere I couldn't find> it. I am not ready to throw it out, but the scale enslaves me. If> I am up, I am depressed and I binge. If I am down, it's probably> not as much as I wanted to be, so I binge. I just want to get to a> point where I can look in the mirror and appreciate what I see. I> do not want to judge my body by anyone else's standards anymore.> Does anyone else feel this way?> > ~Kami>

[Guest guest]

Aw, that's cute! )

Jenn<><

-----Original Message-----

My favorite far side comic by Larson is of 2 panels of flowers, one on top of the other.

The top- they are as we see them...

below it, they all have eyes, long noses and mouths in different laughable "funny" faces.

Caption: How we see flowers, how flowers see themselves (in each pane). Whenever I am feeling ugly I think of this comic. Works every time.

LJ

http://mizbooksreads.blogspot.com

http://intuitive-eating.blogspot.com

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/IntuitiveEating_Support

* NEVER DIET AGAIN! *

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Definitely! When I had success on another H/F program, that is what really helped me. I made it all about the learning process and did not weigh but once a month. I just cannot be on the scale because I will let it dictate to me what I should and should not be doing. I hate that stupid scale! In the article about the American Idol girl, , she said she would not talk about numbers, even her clothes size because it makes people focus on the wrong thing. How true!

You all are such an inspiration and comfort in this process of relearning how to eat!

Love,

Jodi