Guest guest Posted September 13, 2006 Report Share Posted September 13, 2006 If I am having dinner at a certain time I am sure to be hungry. Once in a while I am not hungry so I do not eat, I wait until later. I don’t just sit there I find something else to do, maybe start cleaning up the kitchen. Some days I eat three meals like on Sundays, but lots of days I eat every couple of hours because I eat small amounts. It depends on what I feel like or if I have places to go. How often I am hungry also depends on how active I am throughout the day. I try and stay active and keep moving. Vicki P. From: IntuitiveEating_Support [mailto:IntuitiveEating_Support ] On Behalf Of Saunders Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2006 9:50 AM To: IntuitiveEating_Support Subject: Do regular eating times work out for families? I am just curious as to how some of you work eating dinner with family into your intuitive eating. Can you sit there and not eat if you have eaten prior or do you find it too uncomfortable? Are your family mostly IE or do you ever wonder how they are able to be so while still eating dinner when someone else decides. I was wondering too if one is raising a family dinner is usually at a set time right? So if your body knew you where going to have dinner at 6 most nights it would get used to that and work with your appitite based on that wouldnt it? Oh also (sorry for all the questions in one email) just curious, if people could share how long it takes them to ,in general, feel hungry again after eating or if it is different every time. I find when i really follow my hunger and fullness i still need to eat again about every 3 hours roughly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 13, 2006 Report Share Posted September 13, 2006 , I usually try to get through my afternoons without eating so that I can eat when my family eats. I could eat at 4pm almost daily, but then I'd have to sit with my family & not eat, and I'm not a fan of that. I prefer to eat with my family, as family mealtimes have always had that aire of specialness. ) My family consists of my husband, myself, and our two young children (ages 8 & 6). The kids are IEs, obviously, and hubby was...'til he quit smoking in March! LOL. Now he's eating like a pig. LOL. :-P But, underneath, I think he's still probably an IE. He's just a little out of whack right now. We eat dinner around 6pm nightly as that's when hubby gets home from work. So, I know that, if I want to eat with them, I just have to get through 'til then. My body has regulated itself, since starting to follow IE, to follow an almost-set pattern: I eat first thing when I get up (usually sometime around 7:30am), then I'm hungry again around 11:30am/'Noon, so I'll eat lunch. As I said, I usually get truly hungry again around 4pm, but I drink water / chew gum / distract myself (when I'm actually *following* h/f, that is! LOL), to get through to 6pm. Then I'm good for the rest of the evening/night. Everyone's different. This is just what's worked for me. I guess I should say that there is the odd time when I'll grab a few crackers or a couple of cookies, or a handful of Pringles (chips) to get through, if I " m starving at 4pm. No full snack or meal, just a bite of something to tide me over. When I do that, and only a small portion, I don't feel as if I'm " cheating " on my IE. It's when I have the full-out snack mid-day, and then eat dinner at the usual time that I know I've overdone it. Jenn <>< -----Original Message----- >I am just curious as to how some of you work eating dinner with family >into your intuitive eating. >Are your family mostly IE or do you ever wonder how they are able to >be so while still eating dinner when someone else decides. > >I was wondering too if one is raising a family dinner is usually at a >set time right? So if your body knew you where going to have dinner at >6 most nights it would get used to that and work with your appitite >based on that wouldnt it? > how long it takes them to ,in general, feel hungry >again after eating or if it is different every time. Books Read: http://mizbooksreads.blogspot.com Faith Group: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/unshakablefocus Healthy Eating: http://intuitive-eating.blogspot.com Wishlist: http://www.librarything.com/catalog/mizbooks94 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 13, 2006 Report Share Posted September 13, 2006 My husband isn't always home for dinner so I don't always have to cook a set meal. My daughter is only 14 months and I'm generally not eating her food. But when it is a night when my husband is home and I'm cooking, I try to plan ahead that day. For example, if I don't get hungry for any kind of "lunch" until like 2 p.m. I know to eat something small and not a full meal b/c dinner will be in just a few hours. This works for me b/c I couldn't sit at the table or cook the dinner and then not eat it. So I try to plan ahead. Hope that helps a little. Robyn Saunders wrote: I am just curious as to how some of you work eating dinner with family into your intuitive eating.Can you sit there and not eat if you have eaten prior or do you find it too uncomfortable?Are your family mostly IE or do you ever wonder how they are able to be so while still eating dinner when someone else decides.I was wondering too if one is raising a family dinner is usually at a set time right? So if your body knew you where going to have dinner at 6 most nights it would get used to that and work with your appitite based on that wouldnt it?Oh also (sorry for all the questions in one email) just curious, if people could share how long it takes them to ,in general, feel hungry again after eating or if it is different every time.I find when i really follow my hunger and fullness i still need to eat again about every 3 hours roughly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 13, 2006 Report Share Posted September 13, 2006 I know that in Weigh Down Gwen Shamblin recommended drinking a diet drink when you're hungry but want to wait until the family eats. Rhonda -- Re: Do regular eating times work out for families? ,I usually try to get through my afternoons without eating so that I can eat when my family eats. I could eat at 4pm almost daily, but then I'd have to sit with my family & not eat, and I'm not a fan of that. I prefer to eat with my family, as family mealtimes have always had that aire of specialness. )My family consists of my husband, myself, and our two young children (ages 8 & 6). The kids are IEs, obviously, and hubby was...'til he quit smoking in March! LOL. Now he's eating like a pig. LOL. :-P But, underneath, I think he's still probably an IE. He's just a little out of whack right now. We eat dinner around 6pm nightly as that's when hubby gets home from work. So, I know that, if I want to eat with them, I just have to get through 'til then.My body has regulated itself, since starting to follow IE, to follow an almost-set pattern: I eat first thing when I get up (usually sometime around 7:30am), then I'm hungry again around 11:30am/'Noon, so I'll eat lunch. As I said, I usually get truly hungry again around 4pm, but I drink water / chew gum / distract myself (when I'm actually *following* h/f, that is! LOL), to get through to 6pm. Then I'm good for the rest of the evening/night.Everyone's different. This is just what's worked for me.I guess I should say that there is the odd time when I'll grab a few crackers or a couple of cookies, or a handful of Pringles (chips) to get through, if I"m starving at 4pm. No full snack or meal, just a bite of something to tide me over. When I do that, and only a small portion, I don't feel as if I'm "cheating" on my IE. It's when I have the full-out snack mid-day, and then eat dinner at the usual time that I know I've overdone it.Jenn<><-----Original Message----->I am just curious as to how some of you work eating dinner with family >into your intuitive eating.>Are your family mostly IE or do you ever wonder how they are able to >be so while still eating dinner when someone else decides.>>I was wondering too if one is raising a family dinner is usually at a >set time right? So if your body knew you where going to have dinner at >6 most nights it would get used to that and work with your appitite >based on that wouldnt it?>how long it takes them to ,in general, feel hungry >again after eating or if it is different every time.Books Read: http://mizbooksreads.blogspot.comFaith Group: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/unshakablefocusHealthy Eating: http://intuitive-eating.blogspot.comWishlist: http://www.librarything.com/catalog/mizbooks94 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 14, 2006 Report Share Posted September 14, 2006 I like to eat at family meal times. I try to do something called " pacing, " which I picked up from the Normeal Eating website/group. If it's a few hours before dinner, I will eat a snack- piece of fruit & almond butter, 2 cookies, a string cheese, whatever strikes my fancy, but something that is not enough to make me full. Rather, I end up at 4 or so in terms of fullness level. If it's within an hour of dinner, I'll eat 2 bites of something-6 cashews, 2 bites of a cookie, one small handful of dry cereal. That way I can tide myself over until a real meal. I honestly don't recommend drinking a diet soda to fill up. Intuitive eating is about eating when you are hungry and at least for me, drinking a diet soda is just masking my hunger. But I'm also someone who doesn't have any real weight to lose and actually alternated between bingeing and starving (and drinking a ton of diet soda to mask hunger feelings), so for me, diet soda is a restrictive thing that I need to get away from. --Lindley Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 14, 2006 Report Share Posted September 14, 2006 That is a great idea!! I may have to try that! At least that way I can still eat with my family. Alison Re: Do regular eating times work out for families? I like to eat at family meal times. I try to do something called "pacing," which I picked up from the Normeal Eating website/group. If it's a few hours before dinner, I will eat a snack-piece of fruit & almond butter, 2 cookies, a string cheese, whatever strikes my fancy, but something that is not enough to make me full. Rather, I end up at 4 or so in terms of fullness level. If it's within an hour of dinner, I'll eat 2 bites of something-6 cashews, 2 bites of a cookie, one small handful of dry cereal. That way I can tide myself over until a real meal.I honestly don't recommend drinking a diet soda to fill up. Intuitive eating is about eating when you are hungry and at least for me, drinking a diet soda is just masking my hunger. But I'm also someone who doesn't have any real weight to lose and actually alternated between bingeing and starving (and drinking a ton of diet soda to mask hunger feelings), so for me, diet soda is a restrictive thing that I need to get away from.--Lindley Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 14, 2006 Report Share Posted September 14, 2006 I agree with Lindley. I have foods I can eat that I know will last about an hour--a handful of grapes, an apple, a couple of Ritz crackers. One of the IE programs I have done is called The Light Weigh. It is a Catholic weight loss program--it teaches the same principles as IE about eating when you are hungry and stopping when you are satisfied. As you can imagine, because it is Catholic, it has a whole turning to God aspect to it also. One of the things Suzanne Fowler(creator of LW) recommends for that time in the late afternoon when you are waiting for dinner is a glass of chocolate milk. This also works for me--and feels like a fun treat in the middle of the afternoon! Cheryl > >Date: 2006/09/14 Thu PM 02:19:21 CDT >To: IntuitiveEating_Support >Subject: Re: Re: Do regular eating times work out for families? > >That is a great idea!! I may have to try that! At least that way I can still eat with my family. Alison Re: Do regular eating times work out for families? > >I like to eat at family meal times. I try to do something >called " pacing, " which I picked up from the Normeal Eating >website/group. If it's a few hours before dinner, I will eat a snack- >piece of fruit & almond butter, 2 cookies, a string cheese, whatever >strikes my fancy, but something that is not enough to make me full. >Rather, I end up at 4 or so in terms of fullness level. If it's <BR>within an hour of dinner, I'll eat 2 bites of something-6 cashews, 2 >bites of a cookie, one small handful of dry cereal. That way I can >tide myself over until a real meal. > >I honestly don't recommend drinking a diet soda to fill up. Intuitive >eating is about eating when you are hungry and at least for me, >drinking a diet soda is just masking my hunger. But I'm also someone <BR>who doesn't have any real weight to lose and actually alternated >between bingeing and starving (and drinking a ton of diet soda to mask >hunger feelings), so for me, diet soda is a restrictive thing that I >need to get away from. > >--Lindley > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 14, 2006 Report Share Posted September 14, 2006 Hi Everyone, This is a great topic and I agree with Lindley about pacing. If I eat at noon and I am having dinner with my family around 6pm, I know I am going to be hungry before that, probably around 3:30 or 4. So I eat what I call a " 2-hour " food, or something I know will hold me over until 6, but not so much that I won't be hungry by then. Another way to look at this is if you want to be a " 2 " on the hunger scale by 6pm and you are a " 2 " at 4pm, you can eat to a " 4 " or " 5 " on the scale, instead of to satisfied which is a " 6 " or " 7 " . This works really well for me. As an example, a two hour food(s) may be a string cheese and a piece of fruit, or a few crackers with peanut butter. I also agree that diet soda should not be used. It is something that may fill you up temporarily, but it will ultimately make you more hungry and feel deprived. I can tell you that I have been eating intuitively for a number of years, but the diet soda thing is still a problem for me. While I don't use it to fill up, I do drink it and find myself feeling falsely hungry. I am able to realize this so I don't eat, but I would like to find a way to eliminate the diet soda without feeling deprived. Anyone have any success stories on giving up diet soda? Thanks, Gillian Gillian Hood-son, MS, ACSM Healthier Outcomes It's not just about losing weight! http://www.healthieroutcomes.com Four weeks to a new you teleclass series - this September! For more info: http://www.healthieroutcomes.com/teleseminars4weekseries.html At 12:19 PM 9/14/2006, you wrote: That is a great idea!! I may have to try that! At least that way I can still eat with my family. Alison Re: Do regular eating times work out for families? I like to eat at family meal times. I try to do something called " pacing, " which I picked up from the Normeal Eating website/group. If it's a few hours before dinner, I will eat a snack- piece of fruit & almond butter, 2 cookies, a string cheese, whatever strikes my fancy, but something that is not enough to make me full. Rather, I end up at 4 or so in terms of fullness level. If it's within an hour of dinner, I'll eat 2 bites of something-6 cashews, 2 bites of a cookie, one small handful of dry cereal. That way I can tide myself over until a real meal. I honestly don't recommend drinking a diet soda to fill up. Intuitive eating is about eating when you are hungry and at least for me, drinking a diet soda is just masking my hunger. But I'm also someone who doesn't have any real weight to lose and actually alternated between bingeing and starving (and drinking a ton of diet soda to mask hunger feelings), so for me, diet soda is a restrictive thing that I need to get away from. --Lindley Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 14, 2006 Report Share Posted September 14, 2006 Sorry. I only mentioned diet soda because I remembered reading it in Weigh Down. I just thought it would help with holding someone over for a tiny bit of time so they could eat dinner with their family. Didn't mean to offend anyone. It wasn't about masking hunger so that you don't eat. Rhonda -- Re: Re: Do regular eating times work out for families? Hi Everyone,This is a great topic and I agree with Lindley about pacing. If I eat at noon and I am having dinner with my family around 6pm, I know I am going to be hungry before that, probably around 3:30 or 4. So I eat what I call a "2-hour" food, or something I know will hold me over until 6, but not so much that I won't be hungry by then. Another way to look at this is if you want to be a "2" on the hunger scale by 6pm and you are a "2" at 4pm, you can eat to a "4" or "5" on the scale, instead of to satisfied which is a "6" or "7". This works really well for me. As an example, a two hour food(s) may be a string cheese and a piece of fruit, or a few crackers with peanut butter.I also agree that diet soda should not be used. It is something that may fill you up temporarily, but it will ultimately make you more hungry and feel deprived. I can tell you that I have been eating intuitively for a number of years, but the diet soda thing is still a problem for me. While I don't use it to fill up, I do drink it and find myself feeling falsely hungry. I am able to realize this so I don't eat, but I would like to find a way to eliminate the diet soda without feeling deprived. Anyone have any success stories on giving up diet soda?Thanks,GillianGillian Hood-son, MS, ACSMHealthier OutcomesIt's not just about losing weight!http://www.healthieroutcomes.comFour weeks to a new you teleclass series - this September! For more info: http://www.healthieroutcomes.com/teleseminars4weekseries.htmlAt 12:19 PM 9/14/2006, you wrote: That is a great idea!! I may have to try that! At least that way I can still eat with my family. Alison Re: Do regular eating times work out for families? I like to eat at family meal times. I try to do something called "pacing," which I picked up from the Normeal Eating website/group. If it's a few hours before dinner, I will eat a snack- piece of fruit & almond butter, 2 cookies, a string cheese, whatever strikes my fancy, but something that is not enough to make me full. Rather, I end up at 4 or so in terms of fullness level. If it's within an hour of dinner, I'll eat 2 bites of something-6 cashews, 2 bites of a cookie, one small handful of dry cereal. That way I can tide myself over until a real meal. I honestly don't recommend drinking a diet soda to fill up. Intuitive eating is about eating when you are hungry and at least for me, drinking a diet soda is just masking my hunger. But I'm also someone who doesn't have any real weight to lose and actually alternated between bingeing and starving (and drinking a ton of diet soda to mask hunger feelings), so for me, diet soda is a restrictive thing that I need to get away from. --Lindley Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 14, 2006 Report Share Posted September 14, 2006 Hi Rhonda, Don't be sorry! I am glad you brought it up! It reminded me that I wanted to see if the group had any suggestions for getting off diet soda! :-) And, everyone is different, even when it comes to IE, it may work for some people. Thanks! Gillian Gillian Hood-son, MS, ACSM Healthier Outcomes It's not just about losing weight! http://www.healthieroutcomes.com Four weeks to a new you teleclass series - this September! For more info: http://www.healthieroutcomes.com/teleseminars4weekseries.html At 03:48 PM 9/14/2006, you wrote: Sorry. I only mentioned diet soda because I remembered reading it in Weigh Down. I just thought it would help with holding someone over for a tiny bit of time so they could eat dinner with their family. Didn't mean to offend anyone. It wasn't about masking hunger so that you don't eat. Rhonda -- Re: Re: Do regular eating times work out for families? Hi Everyone, This is a great topic and I agree with Lindley about pacing. If I eat at noon and I am having dinner with my family around 6pm, I know I am going to be hungry before that, probably around 3:30 or 4. So I eat what I call a " 2-hour " food, or something I know will hold me over until 6, but not so much that I won't be hungry by then. Another way to look at this is if you want to be a " 2 " on the hunger scale by 6pm and you are a " 2 " at 4pm, you can eat to a " 4 " or " 5 " on the scale, instead of to satisfied which is a " 6 " or " 7 " . This works really well for me. As an example, a two hour food(s) may be a string cheese and a piece of fruit, or a few crackers with peanut butter. I also agree that diet soda should not be used. It is something that may fill you up temporarily, but it will ultimately make you more hungry and feel deprived. I can tell you that I have been eating intuitively for a number of years, but the diet soda thing is still a problem for me. While I don't use it to fill up, I do drink it and find myself feeling falsely hungry. I am able to realize this so I don't eat, but I would like to find a way to eliminate the diet soda without feeling deprived. Anyone have any success stories on giving up diet soda? Thanks, Gillian Gillian Hood-son, MS, ACSM Healthier Outcomes It's not just about losing weight! http://www.healthieroutcomes.com Four weeks to a new you teleclass series - this September! For more info: http://www.healthieroutcomes.com/teleseminars4weekseries.html At 12:19 PM 9/14/2006, you wrote: That is a great idea!! I may have to try that! At least that way I can still eat with my family. Alison Re: Do regular eating times work out for families? I like to eat at family meal times. I try to do something called " pacing, " which I picked up from the Normeal Eating website/group. If it's a few hours before dinner, I will eat a snack- piece of fruit & almond butter, 2 cookies, a string cheese, whatever strikes my fancy, but something that is not enough to make me full. Rather, I end up at 4 or so in terms of fullness level. If it's within an hour of dinner, I'll eat 2 bites of something-6 cashews, 2 bites of a cookie, one small handful of dry cereal. That way I can tide myself over until a real meal. I honestly don't recommend drinking a diet soda to fill up. Intuitive eating is about eating when you are hungry and at least for me, drinking a diet soda is just masking my hunger. But I'm also someone who doesn't have any real weight to lose and actually alternated between bingeing and starving (and drinking a ton of diet soda to mask hunger feelings), so for me, diet soda is a restrictive thing that I need to get away from. --Lindley Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 14, 2006 Report Share Posted September 14, 2006 Rhonda- Don't worry, you weren't offending anyone! I think it's just that several of us have probably used diet soda to mask real hunger (and been in a restricting/bingeing cycle), so we all felt like posting that diet soda is a bad alternative for us. But that's not to say that it's a bad thing for everyone. Just for those (like me) who tend to overconsume diet soda in place of food. --Lindley > > > That is a great idea!! I may have to try that! At least that way I can > still eat with my family. > > Alison > > Re: Do regular eating times work out for > families? > > > I like to eat at family meal times. I try to do something > > called " pacing, " which I picked up from the Normeal Eating > > website/group. If it's a few hours before dinner, I will eat a snack- > > piece of fruit & almond butter, 2 cookies, a string cheese, whatever > > strikes my fancy, but something that is not enough to make me full. > > Rather, I end up at 4 or so in terms of fullness level. If it's > > within an hour of dinner, I'll eat 2 bites of something-6 cashews, 2 > > bites of a cookie, one small handful of dry cereal. That way I can > > tide myself over until a real meal. > > > I honestly don't recommend drinking a diet soda to fill up. Intuitive > > eating is about eating when you are hungry and at least for me, > > drinking a diet soda is just masking my hunger. But I'm also someone > > who doesn't have any real weight to lose and actually alternated > > between bingeing and starving (and drinking a ton of diet soda to mask > > hunger feelings), so for me, diet soda is a restrictive thing that I > > need to get away from. > > > --Lindley > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 14, 2006 Report Share Posted September 14, 2006 Thanks Lindley. :-) I just wanted to make sure I wasn't misunderstood. -- Re: Do regular eating times work out for families? Rhonda-Don't worry, you weren't offending anyone! I think it's just that several of us have probably used diet soda to mask real hunger (and been in a restricting/bingeing cycle), so we all felt like posting that diet soda is a bad alternative for us. But that's not to say that it's a bad thing for everyone. Just for those (like me) who tend to overconsume diet soda in place of food.--Lindley> > > That is a great idea!! I may have to try that! At least that way I can> still eat with my family. > > Alison> > Re: Do regular eating times work out for> families?> > > I like to eat at family meal times. I try to do something > > called "pacing," which I picked up from the Normeal Eating > > website/group. If it's a few hours before dinner, I will eat a snack-> > piece of fruit & almond butter, 2 cookies, a string cheese, whatever > > strikes my fancy, but something that is not enough to make me full. > > Rather, I end up at 4 or so in terms of fullness level. If it's > > within an hour of dinner, I'll eat 2 bites of something-6 cashews, 2 > > bites of a cookie, one small handful of dry cereal. That way I can > > tide myself over until a real meal.> > > I honestly don't recommend drinking a diet soda to fill up. Intuitive > > eating is about eating when you are hungry and at least for me, > > drinking a diet soda is just masking my hunger. But I'm also someone > > who doesn't have any real weight to lose and actually alternated > > between bingeing and starving (and drinking a ton of diet soda to mask > > hunger feelings), so for me, diet soda is a restrictive thing that I > > need to get away from.> > > --Lindley> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 15, 2006 Report Share Posted September 15, 2006 HI!I am like this (Below), only my son is 2.5- and I can never (yes, never) count on dh being home at the same time. He also likes to cook more than I do. So, I don't do any planning. Depending on when lunch ended up being, and if I feel hungry, I will probably nibble on a little something by or when I feed my son dinner. Usually by 5pm or so I _may_ know what is going on with dh for dinner. Last night he did not get home until about 8pm... when he called to tell me to put chops under the broiler, I was laying down with W to get him to sleep... I had eaten a small amount of his pasta, then felt hungry around 5ish and baked some baked potato salad (the potatoes weren't really soft enough the first time around) and ate that before I took him to bed. I then later ended up eating a porkchop (dh cooked it when he got home) around 8:30- it was a small one, but I did not really need to eat. I try not to think of it as failing. I did go through the motions of thinking, I could just wrap it up and eat it tomorrow... I am already conquering the midday thoughts of food and making the question just pop up in my head and saying to myself, (if it is true) "I am not really hungry now." SO I know other times of the day and other situations will follow suit. eventually. M ost nights I eat what I want along with ds... if I have an inkling that dh will come home for dinner I will try and eat just enough so I am not nuts and cranky. Now that it is almost winter upon us, and I will cook things like whole baked chicken, I will have to start that around 3pm in order to eat at a reason able time- for ds. L J " My husband isn't always home for dinner so I don't always have to cook a set meal. My daughter is only 14 months and I'm generally not eating her food. But when it is a night when my husband is home and I'm cooking, I try to plan ahead that day. For example, if I don't get hungry for any kind of "lunch" until like 2 p.m. I know to eat something small and not a full meal b/c dinner will be in just a few hours. " .. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 15, 2006 Report Share Posted September 15, 2006 I'm still working on giving up *regular* soda! :-? (And it really is an *addiction* for me...) Jenn <>< -----Original Message----- Anyone have any success stories on giving up diet soda? Books Read: http://mizbooksreads.blogspot.com Faith Group: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/unshakablefocus Healthy Eating: http://intuitive-eating.blogspot.com Wishlist: http://www.librarything.com/catalog/mizbooks94 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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