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We're still working on it. From what I've heard shoes don't do much for

this. I did buy some orthopedic shoes for my son when he was younger but

they didn't make much difference. You might want to investigate the

posibility of a vision component to toe-walking. Here's a website of an

optometrist that has done some research on the subject:

http://www.autisticvision.com/id10.htm

Best of luck to you,

Ann

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> Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2001 12:43:47 -0600

> From: Mueller <yardist@...>

> Subject: Re: OT-Need Advice on How to Stop Toewalking

>

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> Greenspan wrote:

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> >

> > Hi everyone,

> >

> > I would really appreciate advice from anyone out there who has

> > successfully stopped their kids' toewalking. Does anyone know if

> > there are special shoes one can buy that would make it impossible to

> > walk on one's toes? Anything that has worked for you would be

> > appreciated.

> >

> > Thanks,

> >

> >

> >

>

> Its difficult. I have seen some progress in our son with simple

> supplements. We have notice it will get worse if the yeast problem is

> out of hand or he gets some food he is allergic too.

>

> We are starting on sensory integration therapy. Im new to this but have

> been told he maybe be trying to " not sense " feeling on his feet as he

> walks (or maybe the stretching of his feet makes him feel more). I by

> into this partly because he will not toe walk if he has something to

> " feel " as he walks across it. Our son likes to walk on beans, sand, and

> some smooth landscape stones I have in the garden.

>

> Just some thoughts

>

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Some toewalk due to tactile issues with the feet. Have you tried body brushing?

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> & gt; out of hand or he gets some food he is allergic too.<BR>

> & gt;<BR>

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as he<BR>

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> & gt; into this partly because he will not toe walk if he has something to<BR>

> & gt; & quot;feel & quot; as he walks across it. Our son likes to walk on beans,

sand, and<BR>

> & gt; some smooth landscape stones I have in the garden.<BR>

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Hi Lynda,

My son only toe-walks occasionally (he is 32 mo, severely language

delayed but no DSI) and I know that toe-walking can be part of DSI if

he is tactile defensive in his feet, but I would speak to your pedi

about it, to rule out a physical reason for the toe-walking. My 7 yo

son's friend toe-walks a lot (he was a late talker, but not dx'd with

anything) and his mom found out it was due to an orthopedic problem

with his feet.

Just my 2 cents

Laurel, mom to Evan (32 mo, nonverbal)

> Hi

>

> Does anyone have experience with his or her child toe walking? My

> 24-month-old Ian is starting to walk on his toes. Ian is language

> delayed (receptive and expressive), dysarthria (diagnosed by

D.Beckman

> at 20 months and now up for debate), mild DSI. He walked on his toes

> occasionally when he was first walking....nothing unusual...not

> excessive. The frequency of him going " up " is steadily increasing as

> well as the duration of how long he can stay " up " . He appears to be

> enjoying it??? I know this can be habit forming and I am looking for

> creative ways to discourage the behavior.

>

> I haven't posted since we first became aware of the severity of

Ian's

> delay (18mos), but I read ALL your posts every day. Thanks.

>

> Lynda

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I sometines call my daughter " Twinkle Toes " She is increasingly on

her toes. It was noted at her first eval. for EI as a watch.

Later, she was dx'd with oral/verbal apraxia & sensory integration

disorder. Toe walking is pretty common w/ SID children.

Her OT works with her on this & tells me that I should keep reminding

her everytime she gets up on her toes. I simply say, Callie, please

put your feet on the floor & she does. I have been told they like the

way it feels..go know. She can walk for 1 -2 minutes on her toes.

How about being barefoot, does Ian like his shoes/socks off? This is

a big issue for us. Callie HATES to have anything on her feet. The

minute she is sitting, in the car, at a restaurant, in a shopping

cart, in her music class the shoes come off, I don't bother with

socks anymore.

Assuming Ian is getting some therapy, I would mention it to the

therapist & if he is in the EI program, she can rec. an OT eval.

Rgds

> Hi

>

> Does anyone have experience with his or her child toe walking? My

> 24-month-old Ian is starting to walk on his toes. Ian is language

> delayed (receptive and expressive), dysarthria (diagnosed by

D.Beckman

> at 20 months and now up for debate), mild DSI. He walked on his toes

> occasionally when he was first walking....nothing unusual...not

> excessive. The frequency of him going " up " is steadily increasing as

> well as the duration of how long he can stay " up " . He appears to be

> enjoying it??? I know this can be habit forming and I am looking for

> creative ways to discourage the behavior.

>

> I haven't posted since we first became aware of the severity of

Ian's

> delay (18mos), but I read ALL your posts every day. Thanks.

>

> Lynda

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HI Lynda

Jordan started doing that, and I bought him a pair of shoes called LUGZ...don't

know if they are still around in children's sizes. They are HEAVY shoes with

very thick bottoms. NO WAY he could have bent his foot to toe walk. Broke the

habit in two weeks.

I have a friend with an apraxic child who was doing the same thing. She

couldn't find LUGZ, so she used heavy thick soled boots and sneakers. He

stopped, also.

This may not get to the core of the problem (make sure your ped knows what's

going on), but it certainly solved the problem for both of us. Hope this helps.

~karyn

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Hi

Does anyone have experience with his or her child toe walking? My

24-month-old Ian is starting to walk on his toes. Ian is language

delayed (receptive and expressive), dysarthria (diagnosed by D.Beckman

at 20 months and now up for debate), mild DSI. He walked on his toes

occasionally when he was first walking....nothing unusual...not

excessive. The frequency of him going " up " is steadily increasing as

well as the duration of how long he can stay " up " . He appears to be

enjoying it??? I know this can be habit forming and I am looking for

creative ways to discourage the behavior.

I haven't posted since we first became aware of the severity of Ian's

delay (18mos), but I read ALL your posts every day. Thanks.

Lynda

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My 4 1/2 year old daughter toe walks. She also has simular

issues to your Ian from the sound of it. We are currently using

AFO's to try and resolve the problem. I have also been trying to

reinforce the heel-to-toe gait when she is barefoot by having her

walk next to me while I show her. She'll do it for a bit and then

go right back up onto her toes. It doesn't seem to bother her at

all, but we are worried about the long term affects.

Read this link:

http://www.emedicine.com/orthoped/topic451.htm

Jill - 's Mom

> Hi

>

> Does anyone have experience with his or her child toe walking? My

> 24-month-old Ian is starting to walk on his toes. Ian is language

> delayed (receptive and expressive), dysarthria (diagnosed by

D.Beckman

> at 20 months and now up for debate), mild DSI. He walked on his

toes

> occasionally when he was first walking....nothing unusual...not

> excessive. The frequency of him going " up " is steadily increasing

as

> well as the duration of how long he can stay " up " . He appears to be

> enjoying it??? I know this can be habit forming and I am looking

for

> creative ways to discourage the behavior.

>

> I haven't posted since we first became aware of the severity of

Ian's

> delay (18mos), but I read ALL your posts every day. Thanks.

>

> Lynda

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Lynda,

Yes I use tap shoes on my daughter, I dont think you son would mind either

because all children love to hear themselves tapping on the floors. Let me know

if this works.

Best Wishes

Traci

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I totally agree with Laurel on this one. Definitely get it

clarified, as toewalking, from personal experience, is absolutely a

DSI stimulation. I say this as a DSI person myself, as I toe-walked

a LOT as a kid, and still have the urge to do it sometimes, and I

don't have CP or anything like that. My son Drew has done it some

too, but I think we get him stimulated in other ways. Definitely

something for the MDs to diagnose correctly.

le (mom to Drew, age 3, apraxia, 2nd generation DSI , and

hypotonia)

> > Hi

> >

> > Does anyone have experience with his or her child toe walking? My

> > 24-month-old Ian is starting to walk on his toes. Ian is language

> > delayed (receptive and expressive), dysarthria (diagnosed by

> D.Beckman

> > at 20 months and now up for debate), mild DSI. He walked on his

toes

> > occasionally when he was first walking....nothing unusual...not

> > excessive. The frequency of him going " up " is steadily increasing

as

> > well as the duration of how long he can stay " up " . He appears to

be

> > enjoying it??? I know this can be habit forming and I am looking

for

> > creative ways to discourage the behavior.

> >

> > I haven't posted since we first became aware of the severity of

> Ian's

> > delay (18mos), but I read ALL your posts every day. Thanks.

> >

> > Lynda

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