Re: Tsh and Tg numbers, etc

[Guest guest]

--- christine_stier@... wrote:

increased a bit to reach that level.>

>

> I'm embarassed to have to ask this question, but

> here goes anyway...

> Is .10 less than .895? That sounds like one of

> kid's homework

> problems? :0)

yes .1 is less than .895 (i know it is like homework)

but even with a decimal point they get smaller when

the actual number get smaller)

> My tsh is .895 so does it need to go DOWN to get to

> .10?

yup, a bit more synthroid and it should go down, but

it takes like 6 weeks to see the result

>

> And is Synthroid, T4?

yup, synthroid, levothyroxine are T4,

cytomel is t3 (the short acting)

>

> Do I understand this correctly, you (I mean your

> doc) have to

> INCREASE your T4 in order to DECREASE your tsh?

you got it.. more t4, less tsh.....

>

> And is this right....the LOWER your tsh number, the

> BETTER you feel--

> less " hypo " symptoms?

to a point, yes less hypo symptoms, but .1 tsh is

pretty suppressed and some folks get hyper symptoms...

rapid pulse, or extra heart beats, a little heart

fluttering (if find if i stay away from caffeine i'm

fine)... so again its one of those your milage may

vary things.....

>

> So, at tsh .10 or less, you all feel pretty good?

i feel great, some folks have issues, it depends on

how your body handles it.... i feel like i ever did

before

>

> And, if I had my tg level taken right now, would it

> be a " reliable "

> number to indicate whether or not I have any mets?

> Or do you have to

> wait until after you have your first RAI since there

> is still some

> thyroid left behind after a tt that would distort

> the tg number?

the RAI ablation should " mop " up any remaining thyroid

tissue and then TG is a reliable marker, a tg test

right now would probably show the presense of thyroid

tissue if you are pre RAI... and wouldn't be a useful

recurrence marker....

>

> Sorry, to keep asking so many questions. I do read

> all the posts, but

> I'm just not quite sure I completely understand

> until I ask.

questions are the way to go!!!! understanding is the

important part.. all of this , i find, is way easier

to deal with , knowing what it means

>

> Thanks for your patience,

> --Chris

> pt 4/5/01; dx 3.8 cm papillary/foll var 4/7/01;

> completion tt 4/9/01

barb

=====

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Barb Burri

dx pap 7/1/99 TT 8/13/99, RAI 63mci 4/26/00 - CLEAN SCAN 12/15/00 - .175

synthroid

barburri@... // bburri@... // www.burri.com

hailing from Plaistow NH (42 miles Due North of Boston)

__________________________________________________

[Guest guest]

Yes, .1 is less than .895. Say the numbers to yourself - one tenth and 8

tenths. Does that make sense. You have 1/10 and 8/10. (Hope I didn't

sound condescending - math is my strength and I try to give word pictures to

explain).

Steph

Re: Tsh and Tg numbers, etc

>

> --- christine_stier@... wrote:

> increased a bit to reach that level.>

> >

> > I'm embarassed to have to ask this question, but

> > here goes anyway...

> > Is .10 less than .895? That sounds like one of

> > kid's homework

> > problems? :0)

>

> yes .1 is less than .895 (i know it is like homework)

> but even with a decimal point they get smaller when

> the actual number get smaller)

>

> > My tsh is .895 so does it need to go DOWN to get to

> > .10?

>

> yup, a bit more synthroid and it should go down, but

> it takes like 6 weeks to see the result

> >

> > And is Synthroid, T4?

>

> yup, synthroid, levothyroxine are T4,

> cytomel is t3 (the short acting)

> >

> > Do I understand this correctly, you (I mean your

> > doc) have to

> > INCREASE your T4 in order to DECREASE your tsh?

>

> you got it.. more t4, less tsh.....

> >

> > And is this right....the LOWER your tsh number, the

> > BETTER you feel--

> > less " hypo " symptoms?

>

> to a point, yes less hypo symptoms, but .1 tsh is

> pretty suppressed and some folks get hyper symptoms...

> rapid pulse, or extra heart beats, a little heart

> fluttering (if find if i stay away from caffeine i'm

> fine)... so again its one of those your milage may

> vary things.....

>

>

> >

> > So, at tsh .10 or less, you all feel pretty good?

>

> i feel great, some folks have issues, it depends on

> how your body handles it.... i feel like i ever did

> before

> >

> > And, if I had my tg level taken right now, would it

> > be a " reliable "

> > number to indicate whether or not I have any mets?

> > Or do you have to

> > wait until after you have your first RAI since there

> > is still some

> > thyroid left behind after a tt that would distort

> > the tg number?

>

> the RAI ablation should " mop " up any remaining thyroid

> tissue and then TG is a reliable marker, a tg test

> right now would probably show the presense of thyroid

> tissue if you are pre RAI... and wouldn't be a useful

> recurrence marker....

>

> >

> > Sorry, to keep asking so many questions. I do read

> > all the posts, but

> > I'm just not quite sure I completely understand

> > until I ask.

>

> questions are the way to go!!!! understanding is the

> important part.. all of this , i find, is way easier

> to deal with , knowing what it means

>

>

> >

> > Thanks for your patience,

> > --Chris

> > pt 4/5/01; dx 3.8 cm papillary/foll var 4/7/01;

> > completion tt 4/9/01

>

>

> barb

>

> =====

> ________________________________________________

> Barb Burri

> dx pap 7/1/99 TT 8/13/99, RAI 63mci 4/26/00 - CLEAN SCAN 12/15/00 - .175

synthroid

> barburri@... // bburri@... // www.burri.com

> hailing from Plaistow NH (42 miles Due North of Boston)

>

> __________________________________________________

>

[Guest guest]

My TSH is .009 and she said I could drop my synthroid from .125 to .1. Does

this seem right?

4 tumors removed 5-10-00

TT 5-17-00

Bi-lateral neck dissection removal of two more tumors one the carotid artery

and one on the jugular vein and 37 lymph nodes removed 6-27-00

RAI 138.5 08-21-00

Current TSH .009

tg 3.8

Ranch

Gloria &

Re: Tsh and Tg numbers, etc

>

>

> >

> > --- christine_stier@... wrote:

> > increased a bit to reach that level.>

> > >

> > > I'm embarassed to have to ask this question, but

> > > here goes anyway...

> > > Is .10 less than .895? That sounds like one of

> > > kid's homework

> > > problems? :0)

> >

> > yes .1 is less than .895 (i know it is like homework)

> > but even with a decimal point they get smaller when

> > the actual number get smaller)

> >

> > > My tsh is .895 so does it need to go DOWN to get to

> > > .10?

> >

> > yup, a bit more synthroid and it should go down, but

> > it takes like 6 weeks to see the result

> > >

> > > And is Synthroid, T4?

> >

> > yup, synthroid, levothyroxine are T4,

> > cytomel is t3 (the short acting)

> > >

> > > Do I understand this correctly, you (I mean your

> > > doc) have to

> > > INCREASE your T4 in order to DECREASE your tsh?

> >

> > you got it.. more t4, less tsh.....

> > >

> > > And is this right....the LOWER your tsh number, the

> > > BETTER you feel--

> > > less " hypo " symptoms?

> >

> > to a point, yes less hypo symptoms, but .1 tsh is

> > pretty suppressed and some folks get hyper symptoms...

> > rapid pulse, or extra heart beats, a little heart

> > fluttering (if find if i stay away from caffeine i'm

> > fine)... so again its one of those your milage may

> > vary things.....

> >

> >

> > >

> > > So, at tsh .10 or less, you all feel pretty good?

> >

> > i feel great, some folks have issues, it depends on

> > how your body handles it.... i feel like i ever did

> > before

> > >

> > > And, if I had my tg level taken right now, would it

> > > be a " reliable "

> > > number to indicate whether or not I have any mets?

> > > Or do you have to

> > > wait until after you have your first RAI since there

> > > is still some

> > > thyroid left behind after a tt that would distort

> > > the tg number?

> >

> > the RAI ablation should " mop " up any remaining thyroid

> > tissue and then TG is a reliable marker, a tg test

> > right now would probably show the presense of thyroid

> > tissue if you are pre RAI... and wouldn't be a useful

> > recurrence marker....

> >

> > >

> > > Sorry, to keep asking so many questions. I do read

> > > all the posts, but

> > > I'm just not quite sure I completely understand

> > > until I ask.

> >

> > questions are the way to go!!!! understanding is the

> > important part.. all of this , i find, is way easier

> > to deal with , knowing what it means

> >

> >

> > >

> > > Thanks for your patience,

> > > --Chris

> > > pt 4/5/01; dx 3.8 cm papillary/foll var 4/7/01;

> > > completion tt 4/9/01

> >

> >

> > barb

> >

> > =====

> > ________________________________________________

> > Barb Burri

> > dx pap 7/1/99 TT 8/13/99, RAI 63mci 4/26/00 - CLEAN SCAN 12/15/00 -

..175

> synthroid

> > barburri@... // bburri@... // www.burri.com

> > hailing from Plaistow NH (42 miles Due North of Boston)

> >

> > __________________________________________________

> >

[Guest guest]

it is in the right direction, the drop in dosage.. but

it might or might not hit the mark of .10.. a

bloodtest in 6 weeks will determine that

barb

--- Ranch wrote:

> My TSH is .009 and she said I could drop my

> synthroid from .125 to .1. Does

> this seem right?

> 4 tumors removed 5-10-00

> TT 5-17-00

> Bi-lateral neck dissection removal of two more

> tumors one the carotid artery

> and one on the jugular vein and 37 lymph nodes

> removed 6-27-00

> RAI 138.5 08-21-00

> Current TSH .009

> tg 3.8

>

> Ranch

> Gloria &

> Re: Tsh and Tg numbers, etc

> >

> >

> > >

> > > --- christine_stier@... wrote:

> > > increased a bit to reach that level.>

> > > >

> > > > I'm embarassed to have to ask this question,

> but

> > > > here goes anyway...

> > > > Is .10 less than .895? That sounds like one

> of

> > > > kid's homework

> > > > problems? :0)

> > >

> > > yes .1 is less than .895 (i know it is like

> homework)

> > > but even with a decimal point they get smaller

> when

> > > the actual number get smaller)

> > >

> > > > My tsh is .895 so does it need to go DOWN to

> get to

> > > > .10?

> > >

> > > yup, a bit more synthroid and it should go down,

> but

> > > it takes like 6 weeks to see the result

> > > >

> > > > And is Synthroid, T4?

> > >

> > > yup, synthroid, levothyroxine are T4,

> > > cytomel is t3 (the short acting)

> > > >

> > > > Do I understand this correctly, you (I mean

> your

> > > > doc) have to

> > > > INCREASE your T4 in order to DECREASE your

> tsh?

> > >

> > > you got it.. more t4, less tsh.....

> > > >

> > > > And is this right....the LOWER your tsh

> number, the

> > > > BETTER you feel--

> > > > less " hypo " symptoms?

> > >

> > > to a point, yes less hypo symptoms, but .1 tsh

> is

> > > pretty suppressed and some folks get hyper

> symptoms...

> > > rapid pulse, or extra heart beats, a little

> heart

> > > fluttering (if find if i stay away from caffeine

> i'm

> > > fine)... so again its one of those your milage

> may

> > > vary things.....

> > >

> > >

> > > >

> > > > So, at tsh .10 or less, you all feel pretty

> good?

> > >

> > > i feel great, some folks have issues, it depends

> on

> > > how your body handles it.... i feel like i ever

> did

> > > before

> > > >

> > > > And, if I had my tg level taken right now,

> would it

> > > > be a " reliable "

> > > > number to indicate whether or not I have any

> mets?

> > > > Or do you have to

> > > > wait until after you have your first RAI since

> there

> > > > is still some

> > > > thyroid left behind after a tt that would

> distort

> > > > the tg number?

> > >

> > > the RAI ablation should " mop " up any remaining

> thyroid

> > > tissue and then TG is a reliable marker, a tg

> test

> > > right now would probably show the presense of

> thyroid

> > > tissue if you are pre RAI... and wouldn't be a

> useful

> > > recurrence marker....

> > >

> > > >

> > > > Sorry, to keep asking so many questions. I do

> read

> > > > all the posts, but

> > > > I'm just not quite sure I completely

> understand

> > > > until I ask.

> > >

> > > questions are the way to go!!!! understanding is

> the

> > > important part.. all of this , i find, is way

> easier

> > > to deal with , knowing what it means

> > >

> > >

> > > >

> > > > Thanks for your patience,

> > > > --Chris

> > > > pt 4/5/01; dx 3.8 cm papillary/foll var

> 4/7/01;

> > > > completion tt 4/9/01

> > >

> > >

> > > barb

> > >

> > > =====

> > > ________________________________________________

> > > Barb Burri

> > > dx pap 7/1/99 TT 8/13/99, RAI 63mci 4/26/00 -

> CLEAN SCAN 12/15/00 -

> .175

> > synthroid

> > > barburri@... // bburri@... //

> www.burri.com

> > > hailing from Plaistow NH (42 miles Due North of

> Boston)

> > >

> > >

> __________________________________________________

> > >

[Guest guest]

Sounds right to me to reduce your T4 a bit since your tsh is a bit low

Ranch wrote:

> My TSH is .009 and she said I could drop my synthroid from .125 to .1.

> Does

> this seem right?

> 4 tumors removed 5-10-00

> TT 5-17-00

> Bi-lateral neck dissection removal of two more tumors one the carotid

> artery

> and one on the jugular vein and 37 lymph nodes removed 6-27-00

> RAI 138.5 08-21-00

> Current TSH .009

> tg 3.8

>

> Ranch

> Gloria &

> Re: Tsh and Tg numbers, etc

> >

> >

> > >

> > > --- christine_stier@... wrote:

> > > increased a bit to reach that level.>

> > > >

> > > > I'm embarassed to have to ask this question, but

> > > > here goes anyway...

> > > > Is .10 less than .895? That sounds like one of

> > > > kid's homework

> > > > problems? :0)

> > >

> > > yes .1 is less than .895 (i know it is like homework)

> > > but even with a decimal point they get smaller when

> > > the actual number get smaller)

> > >

> > > > My tsh is .895 so does it need to go DOWN to get to

> > > > .10?

> > >

> > > yup, a bit more synthroid and it should go down, but

> > > it takes like 6 weeks to see the result

> > > >

> > > > And is Synthroid, T4?

> > >

> > > yup, synthroid, levothyroxine are T4,

> > > cytomel is t3 (the short acting)

> > > >

> > > > Do I understand this correctly, you (I mean your

> > > > doc) have to

> > > > INCREASE your T4 in order to DECREASE your tsh?

> > >

> > > you got it.. more t4, less tsh.....

> > > >

> > > > And is this right....the LOWER your tsh number, the

> > > > BETTER you feel--

> > > > less " hypo " symptoms?

> > >

> > > to a point, yes less hypo symptoms, but .1 tsh is

> > > pretty suppressed and some folks get hyper symptoms...

> > > rapid pulse, or extra heart beats, a little heart

> > > fluttering (if find if i stay away from caffeine i'm

> > > fine)... so again its one of those your milage may

> > > vary things.....

> > >

> > >

> > > >

> > > > So, at tsh .10 or less, you all feel pretty good?

> > >

> > > i feel great, some folks have issues, it depends on

> > > how your body handles it.... i feel like i ever did

> > > before

> > > >

> > > > And, if I had my tg level taken right now, would it

> > > > be a " reliable "

> > > > number to indicate whether or not I have any mets?

> > > > Or do you have to

> > > > wait until after you have your first RAI since there

> > > > is still some

> > > > thyroid left behind after a tt that would distort

> > > > the tg number?

> > >

> > > the RAI ablation should " mop " up any remaining thyroid

> > > tissue and then TG is a reliable marker, a tg test

> > > right now would probably show the presense of thyroid

> > > tissue if you are pre RAI... and wouldn't be a useful

> > > recurrence marker....

> > >

> > > >

> > > > Sorry, to keep asking so many questions. I do read

> > > > all the posts, but

> > > > I'm just not quite sure I completely understand

> > > > until I ask.

> > >

> > > questions are the way to go!!!! understanding is the

> > > important part.. all of this , i find, is way easier

> > > to deal with , knowing what it means

> > >

> > >

> > > >

> > > > Thanks for your patience,

> > > > --Chris

> > > > pt 4/5/01; dx 3.8 cm papillary/foll var 4/7/01;

> > > > completion tt 4/9/01

> > >

> > >

> > > barb

> > >

> > > =====

> > > ________________________________________________

> > > Barb Burri

> > > dx pap 7/1/99 TT 8/13/99, RAI 63mci 4/26/00 - CLEAN SCAN 12/15/00

> -

> .175

> > synthroid

> > > barburri@... // bburri@... // www.burri.com

> > > hailing from Plaistow NH (42 miles Due North of Boston)

> > >

> > > __________________________________________________

> > >

[Guest guest]

Gloria--

> My TSH is .009 and she said I could drop my synthroid from .125 to .1.

Does

> this seem right?

Probably. That is extremely suppressed (remember--Dr. Ain suggests TSH be

suppressed to less than 0.10).

My TSH is also currently 0.009, so I just dropped from .175 to .150

Synthroid. I want my TSH to rise just a bit to ~0.02--which is where I

happen to feel good.

Be sure to get TSH checked ~6 weeks after any T4 dose change, to see how it

worked.

Nina

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