Re: Results of two days of diets

[Guest guest]

ahhhhh, they got you again!! ;-) Just kidding, but just remember,

even if diets do work in the short term, they will never work in the

long term.

>

> When will I ever learn?

> I fell into " diet mode " the last couple of days. It started in the

> grocery store yesterday, buying a Weight Watchers magazine and some

> Lean Cuisines. I figured I'd follow WW to get down to my ideal

weight

> because, after all, if *they* could do it, I should be able to.

>

> The day was ok, but I felt like I obsessed about food all day-what

I

> could eat, what I couldn't, how many " points " were in this, how

many

> in that. I really had to concentrate in order not to go over

my " points " .

>

> Then this morning, I decided that I felt too bloated trying to eat

the

> way I ate yesterday--too many carbs maybe--so I thought I'd change

> directions and do low carb today. Well, low carb (Atkins) is next

to

> impossible for me to follow because I don't like meat, and I love

> carbs too much. And there again, I had to stay very focused in

order

> to eat only the foods I was " supposed to " .

>

> I did ok until suppertime. I had a nice salad with tuna in it, but

all

> of a sudden, I got my usual " who cares " , or rebellion mode, or

> whatever it is that comes over me.

>

> I went out and ate a banana and then a peanut butter and jelly

sandwich.

>

> So I really don't know what my problem is...Well, maybe I do: It's

> that I desperately need to lose about 120lbs, and I just can't

seem to

> stick with any weight loss plan long enough to see a difference.

>

> I've proved it myself again and again--I don't eat near as much

when

> I'm not " trying to diet " , when I'm choosing exactly what *I'd*

like to

> eat instead of what some plan is telling me I ought to choose. The

> less I worry about weight loss, the more peaceful I can get around

> food---but then the impossible amount of weight that I need to lose

> comes right up and smacks me in the face and causes me to run back

to

> somebody else's diet plan.

>

> I would think that Weight Watchers would be pretty harmless,

because

> it's basically eating every day foods, just in smaller portions--

but

> apparently it's NOT harmless to me, for whatever reason.

>

> Anyway, to those of you who are doing well on the IE path,

> congratulations, and keep up the good work.

>

> For those of us who are still struggling every minute....I'm not

sure

> what to say. I wish I could figure out the answer.

>

> Becky

>

[Guest guest]

Hey Becky. Sometimes we do not get our "answers" until we have thrown up our hands and released ti to the universe, to God, or whoever you look to. If you are feeling stressed I would honestly give yourself a few days or even better a week off from thinking aobut any of it. Not IE not a diet, not your weight. Just rest your poor head girl! Ask your higher power whoever that ts to send you an answer and then dont look for one, dont think about it, just rest and let it come with out any help from you. Sometimes we are so caught up in thinking we have to figure everything out that all we can see is what we can not do.Let it come to you. It may not be what you think but an answer will come and it will be yours, then all you have to do is follow. Don't force it, inspiration will be there. Now rest up! grnmtnwriter

wrote: When will I ever learn? I fell into "diet mode" the last couple of days. It started in thegrocery store yesterday, buying a Weight Watchers magazine and someLean Cuisines. I figured I'd follow WW to get down to my ideal weightbecause, after all, if *they* could do it, I should be able to. The day was ok, but I felt like I obsessed about food all day-what Icould eat, what I couldn't, how many "points" were in this, how manyin that. I really had to concentrate in order not to go over my "points".Then

this morning, I decided that I felt too bloated trying to eat theway I ate yesterday--too many carbs maybe--so I thought I'd changedirections and do low carb today. Well, low carb (Atkins) is next toimpossible for me to follow because I don't like meat, and I lovecarbs too much. And there again, I had to stay very focused in orderto eat only the foods I was "supposed to".I did ok until suppertime. I had a nice salad with tuna in it, but allof a sudden, I got my usual "who cares", or rebellion mode, orwhatever it is that comes over me.I went out and ate a banana and then a peanut butter and jelly sandwich.So I really don't know what my problem is...Well, maybe I do: It'sthat I desperately need to lose about 120lbs, and I just can't seem tostick with any weight loss plan long enough to see a difference.I've proved it myself again and again--I don't eat near as much whenI'm not "trying to diet", when I'm

choosing exactly what *I'd* like toeat instead of what some plan is telling me I ought to choose. Theless I worry about weight loss, the more peaceful I can get aroundfood---but then the impossible amount of weight that I need to losecomes right up and smacks me in the face and causes me to run back tosomebody else's diet plan.I would think that Weight Watchers would be pretty harmless, becauseit's basically eating every day foods, just in smaller portions--butapparently it's NOT harmless to me, for whatever reason.Anyway, to those of you who are doing well on the IE path,congratulations, and keep up the good work.For those of us who are still struggling every minute....I'm not surewhat to say. I wish I could figure out the answer.Becky

Share your photos with the people who matter at Yahoo! Canada Photos

[Guest guest]

Becky, have a look at my blog: http://intuitive-eating.blogspot.com and read the

notes I put there from the IE book. It talks all about not focusing on the

weight loss, and just focusing on the BETTER FEELINGS you get when you *do*

follow IE. Doing this helps the weight to just fall off! But, focusing on the

weight loss (not the good feelings) is a futile effort. It won't work. :-? The

harder you TRY to lose weight, the more impossible it seems to be. This has

shown to be true in my own life, so I know! As soon as I " give up trying " ,

things seem to go that much smoother.

I tried and tried to get " back on track " following IE between January and June

of this year. I couldn't seem to do it. Then I told myself that I no longer

cared about the weight and eating proper -- I was going to focus on the

emotional side of things for a while and then get back to worrying about weight

and eating. Well, apparently that's all it took for me to get back into the

swing of things 'cause ever since then I've been eating closer to 0-5, and not

even really CONSCIOUSLY putting an effort into it! Go figure. LOL

Trust me. I've been in the same boat, where I've considered doing WW just 'til I

got to my goal, and then switching back to IE. But, I also have to keep

reminding myself that I don't like counting / keeping track of things, I don't

like being *restricted* in what I can/can't eat, and I KNOW that it will

ultimately fail. Only IE is doable for life (if you ask me, anyway). And, this

is for _me_ that I know this... maybe WW is doable for others for life. Not me,

though. IE is the only thing that's worked for me to get my extra weight off.

It's the only thing I KNOW I can stick with for life.

Jenn

<><

Jenn

<><

Results of two days of " diets "

>

>When will I ever learn?

>I fell into " diet mode " the last couple of days. It started in the

>grocery store yesterday, buying a Weight Watchers magazine and some

>Lean Cuisines. I figured I'd follow WW to get down to my ideal weight

>because, after all, if *they* could do it, I should be able to.

>

>The day was ok, but I felt like I obsessed about food all day-what I

>could eat, what I couldn't, how many " points " were in this, how many

>in that. I really had to concentrate in order not to go over my " points " .

>

>Then this morning, I decided that I felt too bloated trying to eat the

>way I ate yesterday--too many carbs maybe--so I thought I'd change

>directions and do low carb today. Well, low carb (Atkins) is next to

>impossible for me to follow because I don't like meat, and I love

>carbs too much. And there again, I had to stay very focused in order

>to eat only the foods I was " supposed to " .

>

>I did ok until suppertime. I had a nice salad with tuna in it, but all

>of a sudden, I got my usual " who cares " , or rebellion mode, or

>whatever it is that comes over me.

>

>I went out and ate a banana and then a peanut butter and jelly sandwich.

>

>So I really don't know what my problem is...Well, maybe I do: It's

>that I desperately need to lose about 120lbs, and I just can't seem to

>stick with any weight loss plan long enough to see a difference.

>

>I've proved it myself again and again--I don't eat near as much when

>I'm not " trying to diet " , when I'm choosing exactly what *I'd* like to

>eat instead of what some plan is telling me I ought to choose. The

>less I worry about weight loss, the more peaceful I can get around

>food---but then the impossible amount of weight that I need to lose

>comes right up and smacks me in the face and causes me to run back to

>somebody else's diet plan.

>

>I would think that Weight Watchers would be pretty harmless, because

>it's basically eating every day foods, just in smaller portions--but

>apparently it's NOT harmless to me, for whatever reason.

>

>Anyway, to those of you who are doing well on the IE path,

>congratulations, and keep up the good work.

>

>For those of us who are still struggling every minute....I'm not sure

>what to say. I wish I could figure out the answer.

>

>Becky

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi!Welcome! and to other newbies out there... I am managing an overload of e-mail and participating a forum for adopting soldiers (www.soldiersangels.org) Time is tight.

Anyhow- you mention the 120 lbs... they drs and all those gurus out there) have said that ultimately if you take off 10% of your weight it greatly reduces the risks of all the bad things that weight can bring on... so that is just 12 lbs... work on losing 12 lbs and making peace with food. (then reasess) It is far worse for your body to quickly lose 120lbs in lets say 6-8 months and then regain it... then it is to take your sweet time 2-3-4 years and keep it off. Do the work.. find out why you are eating when you are eating.. .keep repeating the key things to yourself when faced with being 5+fullness.. "I can eat more of this later when or if I get hungry.. I can eat whatever I want when I am hungry. Why am I wanting to fill my self with food, what am I trying to avoid or what feelings am I trying to avoid by filling it or covering it with food?" it takes a lot of practice and rewriting. no road is perfect... I had a few good moments this week.. plus being around my parents for a week.. then tonight I overate a bit on reheated cheese fries.... I did accidentally let myself get to below a 2e... not a good thing. so I know better... it was a good exercise, did not feel good to be "full." Sometimes we need these primers to help us remember. Just keep at it meal by meal.

Be kind to yourself since you are the only you you have...

LJ

" I don't eat near as much whenI'm not "trying to diet", when I'm choosing exactly what *I'd* like toeat instead of what some plan is telling me I ought to choose. Theless I worry about weight loss, the more peaceful I can get aroundfood---but then the impossible amount of weight that I need to losecomes right up and smacks me in the face and causes me to run back tosomebody else's diet plan. "

[Guest guest]

Becky,

It only took you two days to get back to IE? That's a victory,

girl, not a defeat! How long would it have taken you before this,

when all there was was dieting? Be kind to yourself and look for

the positive. I, too, have a lot of weight to lose, probably 65-75

pounds off of my 5' 2 " frame. Right now I am working on letting

that go. I am more than my weight. I am smart, strong, logical,

funny. I have pretty hair, cute dimples in my cheeks, and my feet

look great in a brand new pedicure. I try to help people, believe

in leaving this planet a better place than I found it, and I listen

when someone else has a problem they need to talk through. I am

trying to become a richer, deeper, better person. When do those

things become my focus rather than my weight? If you are anything

like me, the answer is, after I lose the weight. Well, I say no

more. You have beauty that you will not discover if you keep your

focus on your weight. Do something great for yourself today: buy a

new shirt, lipstick or pair of shoes. Get a manicure, facial, or

get your hair done. Go to the bookstore, read with your favorite

drink in hand. See a great movie. Do whatever it is that seems

pampering to you, you are worth it! This is a long journey, not a

sprint. You are doing great! Don't give up.

~Kami

>

> When will I ever learn?

> I fell into " diet mode " the last couple of days. It started in the

> grocery store yesterday, buying a Weight Watchers magazine and some

> Lean Cuisines. I figured I'd follow WW to get down to my ideal

weight

> because, after all, if *they* could do it, I should be able to.

>

> The day was ok, but I felt like I obsessed about food all day-what

I

> could eat, what I couldn't, how many " points " were in this, how

many

> in that. I really had to concentrate in order not to go over

my " points " .

>

> Then this morning, I decided that I felt too bloated trying to eat

the

> way I ate yesterday--too many carbs maybe--so I thought I'd change

> directions and do low carb today. Well, low carb (Atkins) is next

to

> impossible for me to follow because I don't like meat, and I love

> carbs too much. And there again, I had to stay very focused in

order

> to eat only the foods I was " supposed to " .

>

> I did ok until suppertime. I had a nice salad with tuna in it, but

all

> of a sudden, I got my usual " who cares " , or rebellion mode, or

> whatever it is that comes over me.

>

> I went out and ate a banana and then a peanut butter and jelly

sandwich.

>

> So I really don't know what my problem is...Well, maybe I do: It's

> that I desperately need to lose about 120lbs, and I just can't

seem to

> stick with any weight loss plan long enough to see a difference.

>

> I've proved it myself again and again--I don't eat near as much

when

> I'm not " trying to diet " , when I'm choosing exactly what *I'd*

like to

> eat instead of what some plan is telling me I ought to choose. The

> less I worry about weight loss, the more peaceful I can get around

> food---but then the impossible amount of weight that I need to lose

> comes right up and smacks me in the face and causes me to run back

to

> somebody else's diet plan.

>

> I would think that Weight Watchers would be pretty harmless,

because

> it's basically eating every day foods, just in smaller portions--

but

> apparently it's NOT harmless to me, for whatever reason.

>

> Anyway, to those of you who are doing well on the IE path,

> congratulations, and keep up the good work.

>

> For those of us who are still struggling every minute....I'm not

sure

> what to say. I wish I could figure out the answer.

>

> Becky

>

[Guest guest]

Man, you guys, what a difference today!

I made oatmeal for dh and I for breakfast, and only needed part of the

bowl instead of the whole thing. Made the way I like it, with cinnamon

and raisins, butter and brown sugar. I more or less " worked " the bowl,

picking out the best parts, the plump raisins, the little pools of

butter and brown sugar. (Then my dog finished what was left, lol.)

I didn't eat again until lunchtime, when I was hungry, and since I

wasn't " dieting " , I was satisfied with a peanut butter and Polaner

Raspberry Fruit Spread on whole grain bread sandwich.

Before supper I had a small handful of peanuts and a small piece of

cheddar.

We didn't feel like cooking, so dh and I had another peanut butter and

Polaner sandwich for supper.

I just had a Kit Kat for a snack.

I also got out and walked twice today, not especially for " weight

loss " (though I'll be overjoyed if that happens), but mainly because

it was gorgeous out, and I need to get into better shape just for my

health.

Oh, I also went grocery shopping today, and bought a wide variety of

foods, but nothing " diet " .

To top off the evening I may have one of those mini bags of microwave

Kettle Korn they have out now. Then again, I may not. I'll see.

I'm calling today a success!

Thank you for all the replies.

Becky

[Guest guest]

well I call that a success and I am sure the dog appreciates the bits of flavored oatmeal as well!LJ

[Guest guest]

Congrats, Becky! )

Jenn

<><

-----Original Message-----

>Man, you guys, what a difference today!

>I'm calling today a success!

http://mizbooksreads.blogspot.com

http://intuitive-eater.blogspot.com

http://intuitive-eating.blogspot.com

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/IntuitiveEating_Support

* NEVER DIET AGAIN! *

[Guest guest]

Hurray for you Becky, you go girl!

Vicki

From: IntuitiveEating_Support [mailto:IntuitiveEating_Support ] On Behalf Of grnmtnwriter

Sent: Saturday, August 05, 2006

8:09 PM

To: IntuitiveEating_Support

Subject:

Re: Results of two days of " diets "

Man, you guys, what a difference today!

I made oatmeal for dh and I for breakfast, and only needed part of the

bowl instead of the whole thing. Made the way I like it, with cinnamon

and raisins, butter and brown sugar. I more or less " worked " the

bowl,

picking out the best parts, the plump raisins, the little pools of

butter and brown sugar. (Then my dog finished what was left, lol.)

I didn't eat again until lunchtime, when I was hungry, and since I

wasn't " dieting " , I was satisfied with a peanut butter and Polaner

Raspberry Fruit Spread on whole grain bread sandwich.

Before supper I had a small handful of peanuts and a small piece of

cheddar.

We didn't feel like cooking, so dh and I had another peanut butter and

Polaner sandwich for supper.

I just had a Kit Kat for a snack.

I also got out and walked twice today, not especially for " weight

loss " (though I'll be overjoyed if that happens), but mainly because

it was gorgeous out, and I need to get into better shape just for my

health.

Oh, I also went grocery shopping today, and bought a wide variety of

foods, but nothing " diet " .

To top off the evening I may have one of those mini bags of microwave

Kettle Korn they have out now. Then again, I may not. I'll see.

I'm calling today a success!

Thank you for all the replies.

Becky

[Guest guest]

>

> When will I ever learn?

Becky,

i think we all struggle along the same line in finding what works

for us. i am learning that i have to work it one day at a

time...actually one meal at a time.

don't get frustrated...just hang in there and eventually it will

start to click for you. we have for so long run to food to meet our

needs and now we are to run to God to have him meet our needs. hard

to do some times. but it is a learning process and will get easier

each time we do. it was like something i just read earlier today in

TW.it was actually talking about eating and socializing but i think

it fits here. " you will be begin to establish a new rhythm--like a

dance... " i love the idea that i am establishing a new rhythm--a

dance. new steps, new moves...learning to flow with the Spirit of

God, just resting in his arms and letting him lead.

i also love the part on grace... " grace allows us to BE; legalism

compels us to DO. " " grace redirects our focus away from perfection

to correction. " how wonderful.

we need to look at why we do the things we don't want to do. there

is always an underlying reason that we may not always be aware of

but if we ask ourselves or God we always get an answer.

as far as the 120# you need to lose...don't be overwhelmed there.it

is going to come off. it will just take time. trust yourself and

trust that God will get you through. there is an old chinese

saying, " when the student is ready the teacher appears. " when it all

comes together the weight will " disappear! "

blessing, carolann

[Guest guest]

I needed this today, Carolann.... So, thanks. )

Jenn

<><

-----Original Message-----

" grace allows us to BE; legalism compels us to DO. " " grace redirects our focus

away from perfection

>to correction. " how wonderful.

http://mizbooksreads.blogspot.com

http://intuitive-eater.blogspot.com

http://intuitive-eating.blogspot.com

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/IntuitiveEating_Support

* NEVER DIET AGAIN! *