Guest guest Posted July 26, 2006 Report Share Posted July 26, 2006 > I believe that food journaling is a diet thing and may not work well with the principles of IE. I am with you on this one, Vicki. I think it takes an extraordinary amount of progress with IE before one can view a food journal as a learning tool rather than a diet hangover. How does everyone else feel? I think keeping a journal would be backward progress for me at this point. ~Kami Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 26, 2006 Report Share Posted July 26, 2006 At first I really resisted keeping a food journal cause it really felt diet-y. Once I identified h/f cues though, I found it was helpful to log my hunger before eating and after eating, as well as my thoughts, emotions, moods surrounding meals, which made me eat much more consciously. I never put down portions, just a basic idea of what I ate and maybe a reference to small, medium, large or a number of portions so I could look back and see the difference in what I was eating a month ago compared to now. I never look at nutritional info on foods unless I'm checking that it doesn't have any additives/preservatives/dyes, that type of thing, as I like eating whole, unprocessed, primarily organic foods cause they make me feel much healthier, strong and vibrant. I definitely NEVER add up calories or carb grams or anything like that because that sucks me back into the whole dieting mentality. -----Original Message-----From: IntuitiveEating_Support [mailto:IntuitiveEating_Support ]On Behalf Of diet_rebelSent: Wednesday, July 26, 2006 10:44 AMTo: IntuitiveEating_Support Subject: Re: Journaling > I believe that food journaling is a diet thing and may not work well with the principles of IE. I am with you on this one, Vicki. I think it takes an extraordinary amount of progress with IE before one can view a food journal as a learning tool rather than a diet hangover. How does everyone else feel? I think keeping a journal would be backward progress for me at this point.~Kami Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 26, 2006 Report Share Posted July 26, 2006 Ditto, for me, at this point, it's a diet hangover. V > > > I believe that food journaling is a diet thing and may not work > well with the principles of IE. > > I am with you on this one, Vicki. I think it takes an extraordinary > amount of progress with IE before one can view a food journal as a > learning tool rather than a diet hangover. How does everyone else > feel? I think keeping a journal would be backward progress for me at > this point. > > ~Kami > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 26, 2006 Report Share Posted July 26, 2006 That's the same thing that some of the ladies in my TW_Support group said after I'd been posting my food log to the group as accountability. I post on my blog now so that I can continue, and those who don't want to read it don't have to, but those who were helped by it can still read it. I journal my food because... 1) I've been breaking out in hives since January, and I've not yet discovered the reason. My doctor told me to keep track of what I eat for several months before she'll send me to an allergist. 2) I like the accountability -- if I know that someone else is going to be knowing of what I'm eating, it helps me not to just eat for emotional reasons. I go to eat outside of hunger, and I pause and think, "Do I really want <<???>> to read that I ate this?" -- diety or not, it helps *me*.... And, I'm a big believer in the "take what you love & leave the rest" method of personalizing your weight-loss journey. 3) I like being able to put my hunger/fullness numbers beside my eating, and *observe* where I may have overeaten, and *correct* the next time through ... this is a "tool" used in Thin Within ... "Observe & Correct". It's, so far, been quite helpful. But, again, this is *me*... what works for me may not work for others. That's okay. SO, different strokes for different folks. I don't *feel* like it's diet-behavior, so for me it's still an okay thing to do. It helps, so I'll keep doing it. And, if I ever feel like it's something I *have* to do, rather than something I *want* to do, I'll probably stop doing it. ;o) Jenn <>< -----Original Message----- I believe that food journaling is a diet thing and may not work well with the principles of IE. I am not being critical. As I see it, it causes a person to look at what they ate and how much they ate and say inside “oh no, I think I ate too much”, or berate themselves, “now why did I eat that!” It may keep a person constantly thinking about food. I don’t food journal but I have to watch myself closely or I find myself mentally adding it up or going back and saying (inside my head), “let’s see what you ate today”. I can’t do that to myself and have true peace and satisfaction with IE. http://mizbooksreads.blogspot.com http://intuitive-eating.blogspot.com http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/IntuitiveEating_Support * NEVER DIET AGAIN! * Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 26, 2006 Report Share Posted July 26, 2006 That's the same thing that some of the ladies in my TW_Support group said after I'd been posting my food log to the group as accountability. I post on my blog now so that I can continue, and those who don't want to read it don't have to, but those who were helped by it can still read it. I journal my food because... 1) I've been breaking out in hives since January, and I've not yet discovered the reason. My doctor told me to keep track of what I eat for several months before she'll send me to an allergist. 2) I like the accountability -- if I know that someone else is going to be knowing of what I'm eating, it helps me not to just eat for emotional reasons. I go to eat outside of hunger, and I pause and think, "Do I really want <<???>> to read that I ate this?" -- diety or not, it helps *me*.... And, I'm a big believer in the "take what you love & leave the rest" method of personalizing your weight-loss journey. 3) I like being able to put my hunger/fullness numbers beside my eating, and *observe* where I may have overeaten, and *correct* the next time through ... this is a "tool" used in Thin Within ... "Observe & Correct". It's, so far, been quite helpful. But, again, this is *me*... what works for me may not work for others. That's okay. SO, different strokes for different folks. I don't *feel* like it's diet-behavior, so for me it's still an okay thing to do. It helps, so I'll keep doing it. And, if I ever feel like it's something I *have* to do, rather than something I *want* to do, I'll probably stop doing it. ;o) Jenn <>< -----Original Message----- I believe that food journaling is a diet thing and may not work well with the principles of IE. I am not being critical. As I see it, it causes a person to look at what they ate and how much they ate and say inside “oh no, I think I ate too much”, or berate themselves, “now why did I eat that!” It may keep a person constantly thinking about food. I don’t food journal but I have to watch myself closely or I find myself mentally adding it up or going back and saying (inside my head), “let’s see what you ate today”. I can’t do that to myself and have true peace and satisfaction with IE. http://mizbooksreads.blogspot.com http://intuitive-eating.blogspot.com http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/IntuitiveEating_Support * NEVER DIET AGAIN! * Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 26, 2006 Report Share Posted July 26, 2006 Yeah, it took me about a year to get to where journaling is a " tool " rather than a " chore " . I couldn't do it when I first started IE. I only started journalling my food in ... June? I think? But, my one-year IE anniversary was July 4th. So, there you have it... took a year. ) Jenn <>< -----Kami wrote: >I think it takes an extraordinary amount of progress with IE before one can view a food journal as a >learning tool rather than a diet hangover. How does everyone else >feel? http://mizbooksreads.blogspot.com http://intuitive-eating.blogspot.com http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/IntuitiveEating_Support * NEVER DIET AGAIN! * Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 26, 2006 Report Share Posted July 26, 2006 Yeah, it took me about a year to get to where journaling is a " tool " rather than a " chore " . I couldn't do it when I first started IE. I only started journalling my food in ... June? I think? But, my one-year IE anniversary was July 4th. So, there you have it... took a year. ) Jenn <>< -----Kami wrote: >I think it takes an extraordinary amount of progress with IE before one can view a food journal as a >learning tool rather than a diet hangover. How does everyone else >feel? http://mizbooksreads.blogspot.com http://intuitive-eating.blogspot.com http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/IntuitiveEating_Support * NEVER DIET AGAIN! * Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 26, 2006 Report Share Posted July 26, 2006 Now see, that's probably why a lot of people think of my food journal as "diety"... because I put how much of the food I ate (1/2 cup... 1/4 cup.... etc). I guess I do that because it helps me see how much I've eaten, and if/when that changes I'll have something to gauge how far I've come in changing into an intuitive eater! ) I don't count calories, and I don't tell myself that I have to have only *so much*. I can have what I like, and I write it down later. I am like April, too, in that I don't read the package unless I"m concerned about color dyes... I'm sensitive/allergic to Yellow #5 (aka: "Tartrazine"). It's in an unbelievable amount of foods! :-? Jenn <>< -----Original Message----- I never put down portions, just a basic idea of what I ate and maybe a reference to small, medium, large or a number of portions so I could look back and see the difference in what I was eating a month ago compared to now. I never look at nutritional info on foods unless I'm checking that it doesn't have any additives/preservatives/dyes, that type of thing http://mizbooksreads.blogspot.com http://intuitive-eating.blogspot.com http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/IntuitiveEating_Support * NEVER DIET AGAIN! * Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 26, 2006 Report Share Posted July 26, 2006 Hi!I do the journalling on peertrainer.com to be mindful of the levels... and I have gotten a lot better at judgementless assessments of my hunger levels... or is that emotionless. Where I think about a food or eating... asess if I am hungry and quickly sense, no... not yet... and confirm and reaffirm that when I am hungry I can eat whatever I want. LJ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 27, 2006 Report Share Posted July 27, 2006 Hey, is that free? I need to check that out. V > > Hi! > I do the journalling on peertrainer.com to be mindful of the levels... > and I have gotten a lot better at judgementless assessments of my hunger > levels... or is that emotionless. Where I think about a food or > eating... asess if I am hungry and quickly sense, no... not yet... and > confirm and reaffirm that when I am hungry I can eat whatever I want. > LJ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 28, 2006 Report Share Posted July 28, 2006 > I believe that food journaling is a diet thing and may not work well with the principles of IE. I'm with y'all on this one! I do not want to be thinking about food(or writing about it) at all unless I am eating because I am truly hungry. But what works for one, may not be right for another. --Jodi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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