Re: Re[2]: Re: Survey response

[Guest guest]

,

Am I right in remembering that your little one has a mild-moderate hearing

loss? And he's normally in deaf school? Then *I* have a question. My son (3

1/2) also has a mild-moderate loss, but he's in a regular pre-school and

besides his HAs and FM (and a little speech therapy and a LOT of evals)

we've never done a thing in the way of signing, etc. AM I MISSING

SOMETHING????

Our supporters (audie, EI, developmental specialist) have never mentioned

any of the choices that you talk about here with deaf-ed stuff. And actually

he's doing great(yay!). What do you think? I'm so interested in how other

parents of mild-moderately impaired children are working with their

children. Are your children in schools for the deaf? Do you think it depends

on the type of mild-moderate loss or their audiogram? ('s real trouble

comes in the 1500-4000hz range)

And sadly ('cause I know it's a pain) I agree with the others-- sounds like

day-care shopping is in order. There are 16 other kids in 's preschool

class. He does still have accidents (he's not really potty trained either--

just fakes it for school) and that's ok with them, but they've been GREAT

about learning about his HAs and FM system even though it's obviously scary

and confusing for them. You guys deserve better.

Thanks for all your help and good luck to you too!

-Daphne

Re: Re: Survey response

> Author: Listen-Upegroups

> Date: 06/08/2000 4:58 PM

>

> --- wrote:

> Anyway, I did have a general survey question : How many of you out there

> have kids with implants? Secondly, how many of you have kids that use a TC

> program? Is this usually a general standard that most school districts

follow

> (the

> use of a TC based program)? Just curious as to what there is out there!

> --- end of quote ---

>

> Hi - I have two sons - ages 5-1/2 and 7.9 years. My older son has

a

> severe hearing impairment and my little son is deaf. Both wear hearing

aids and

> both are oral.

>

> So I guess my answer to your question is neither!

>

> Cheers!

> Barbara

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[Guest guest]

Hi ,

I wouldn't worry. As I wrote in my earlier message, my son is similar to

yours in that he uses his speech expressively and signs for receptive

language. He uses his hearing as much as he can and the sign fills in the

blanks. But my son rarely uses signing expressively except at home or with

deaf friends. He is just now (at 5yo) realizing that some people can't hear

and he has to sign to them. Before, he just thought that they couldn't

talk! A good friend of his (deaf boy same age) lives on another island and

he only sees him a couple of times a year. They got together last month at

a field day at the deaf school in Honolulu, and before my son went I told

him that he needed to remember to sign to his friend because his friend

can't hear. Any my son got very concerned and told me, " But I don't know

how! " He has an extensive sign vocabulary but since he doesn't have to rely

on it to get his message across he isn't comfortable with his signing

skills.

When we sign to him at home, my son will sign more to us.

I think it's probably just a " personal choice at this point in time " thing.

I'm not too worried about my son at this point--main thing he has language

and is communicating. I think the different modes will sort themselves out

eventually.

Good luck,

Dixie

> I believe that TC was the best choice for him, and the school district has

been

> helpful in letting me choose what I wanted. Alrighty, now this is another

> general question that I am not sure if anyone can answer. He uses his

speech now

> for his expressive language, but rarely signs. Is this something I should

be

> concerned with, since he has had services and speech/sign since birth? Or

is

> this one of those " he has chosen " things? Is there something I can do to

help

> him out? I am certainly not fluent, but we use enough to get by with the

> everyday things. He has even taught me a couple of new ones!! ECI is gone

now,

> so I do not get any parent education anymore. *Smiles!* Thanks again.

> in TX

[Guest guest]

Daphne,

If you son is doing well and is at age level in language skills in his

present placement with the HAs and FM, then you're probably not missing

anything he needs. What he has is working for him. I wouldn't worry.

Dixie

> ,

> Am I right in remembering that your little one has a mild-moderate hearing

> loss? And he's normally in deaf school? Then *I* have a question. My son

(3

> 1/2) also has a mild-moderate loss, but he's in a regular pre-school and

> besides his HAs and FM (and a little speech therapy and a LOT of evals)

> we've never done a thing in the way of signing, etc. AM I MISSING

> SOMETHING????

>

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 6/8/00 6:22:47 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

carriew_at_nikkousa@... writes:

<< He uses his speech now

for his expressive language, but rarely signs. Is this something I should be

concerned with, since he has had services and speech/sign since birth? Or is

this one of those " he has chosen " things? Is there something I can do to help

him out? I am certainly not fluent, but we use enough to get by with the

everyday things. He has even taught me a couple of new ones!! >>

My daughter was using TC in early intervention and her first year of

preschool SLI. Her second school year in the SLI class, her auditory

clinician asked me if we wanted to try the oral approach because my daughter

clearly wanted to express herself verbally. She used her signs every now and

then, always with speech but she used speech more often. So we switched over

to the oral approach after reading about it and learning about it and what

results we could see with her. I feel as though she chose it herself. That

was our experience.

Suzette

[Guest guest]

>

> I believe that TC was the best choice for him, and the school district has

been

> helpful in letting me choose what I wanted. Alrighty, now this is another

> general question that I am not sure if anyone can answer. He uses his

speech now

> for his expressive language, but rarely signs. Is this something I should

be

> concerned with, since he has had services and speech/sign since birth? Or

is

> this one of those " he has chosen " things? Is there something I can do to

help

> him out? I am certainly not fluent, but we use enough to get by with the

> everyday things. He has even taught me a couple of new ones!!

Does him not signing to you cause problems for him? If not, I wouldn't

worry about it. He is going to use the form of communication that is most

comfortable for him. That's the reason I chose TC. I wanted Petya to be

exposed to different ways to communicate hoping that she would choose what

she was comfortable with. Petya has been in a TC program for four years.

She can sign fluently and does with her deaf friends but prefers to use her

voice and does not sign expressively with hearing people.

When she does sign to me it is normally when we are in a noisy situation and

she cannot hear me with her aids. When she signs to me it is my cue that I

should sign to her because she is having trouble hearing.

Sometimes I get frustrated when I want to practice my sign and she won't

sign, she says, " Mom you can hear and I want to use my voice. "

The only time I " force " her to sign is when she is reading her spelling

words to me. First I want to make sure she has the meaning of the word

clear. Second her speech is about 75% intelligible and in running

conversation I can fill in the words she doesn't pronounce properly but when

reading a list of words in isolation I am not always sure which word she is

saying so I use her sign to clarify. She understands that now and will sign

for me in that case.

Barb

[Guest guest]

> Am I right in remembering that your little one has a mild-moderate hearing

> loss? And he's normally in deaf school? Then *I* have a question. My son

(3

> 1/2) also has a mild-moderate loss, but he's in a regular pre-school and

> besides his HAs and FM (and a little speech therapy and a LOT of evals)

> we've never done a thing in the way of signing, etc. AM I MISSING

> SOMETHING????

Lots of kids with mild-moderate loss, or even more severe losses do fine

without sign. Petya has a moderate to severe loss and corrects to 10dB to

20 dB with her aids. Yet she was not able to acquire language without sign.

She remembers better when information is presented in more than one

modality. She is not in a school for the deaf.

My original reason for wanting her to sign was because we do not know if her

hearing loss was progressive and I did not want her to be without language

in the future. For her and our family sign ended up having a lot of

benefits. Petya does not use it on a daily basis but when we go to a play

she does rely on the interperter. For me it was more about giving her

choice and flexibility.

This fall I am going to learn to cue. She is relying more and more on cuing

to help her know the sounds of words. I find myself not being able to help

her with new words there is no sign for. She cannot cue expressively and I

don't see a reason for her to be able to.

Each child and family are different. These are the reasons I made the

choices I did. If your son is doing great then I am sure you are meeting

his needs.

Barb