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In a message dated 9/14/02 2:24:55 AM Central Daylight Time,

highwayoffice@... writes:

> I am at a total loss as to where to begin or how. I really forget how to

> eat

> healthy. I go to the store and I struggle over what to buy or not buy,

> it's

> like the skill of choosing healthy just disappeared. How can this be? How

>

> did you guys begin? What were you first steps? I need HELP!

Theresa,

I understand. It IS hard sometimes.

For me, I almost always have to break the cycle of carb addiction. I start

off with a couple of days of pre-prepared meal replacement shakes that are

low carb.

That helps me stop the insanity of craving and eating carbs which makes me

crave and eat MORE carbs. Then, I feel more settled and able to think

clearly about what healthy choices are.

In the grocery store, think 1/3 plate of veggies, 1/3 plate of lean meat and

1/3 plate of carbs. That will be a good starting place. If you can't stand

the taste of water right now, then start with sugar free beverages and then

ice cold water with lime or lemon squeezed in until you can wean yourself off

the highly flavored, highly caloric carb, loaded beverages. Believe it or

not, you will learn to like the taste of ice water again. Then get some

strawberry mini rice cakes and sugar free Jell-O and things like that in the

house for desserts and those snack attacks. Try hard not to bring home

things that are unhealthy so you don't have to be disciplined not to eat

them. Lastly, replace the behaviors that trigger eating with activity.

Think of exercise as fun. Think basketball, think rollerblading, think

walking, hiking through the forest preserve (or something similar), washing

the car or even croquet in the yard. Just get out of the house, away from

food and move your body. There's a great program on the web with a free 30

day trial called DietPower. It's at DietPower.com It has a food log built

in, so you can point and drag to keep track of what you eat (instead of that

tedious writing it all down) and the nutritional values, calories, carbs,

fat, etc. It also has an exercise log that includes housework and sex

*biggrin* as well as most common exercises. Using the program is easy since

most of us are (obviously) on the computer often during the day and it helps

us really see how much we are taking in calorie wise and how little we are

burning off. It became a game to me to see how much exercise I could log and

how many calories I could " bank " which is similar in theory to the WW Points

system.

You might give that a try too.

Hope this helps. I am at the big start OVER, so I'm relating to how hard it

is to move the big boulder up the hill *sigh* but before you know it, that

boulder will get momentum and we'll be big time losers. *big silly grin* I

was a week ago at this time: just watching the scale go down down down.

*sigh* Oh how I wish I had not messed up. But life is like that. We have

to recover quickly before it becomes a nightmare.

Warmly,

Jo

[Guest guest]

Time to really " THINK " ....

1)Set one food goal a day (give up say sugar for the day)

2)Set one exercise goal today(even if it's only 5 minutes-MOVE)

3)Say one postitive thing about yourself today!(I can do this because

I am worth it!)

Like they say " you are what you eat " It is true. If you eat all that

junk you'll start to feel junky...lol. Here's to a new day for

you!!!!....Ramona

> I am just gaining and gaining here. The little steps I have taken

just

> aren't working. I know what my problems are:

>

> 1. eating very unhealthy, quick foods (Croissant Pockets, frozen

> burritos....just JUNK). I got used to this when I was pregnant and

on bed

> rest. Had no one home to cook for me, so doctor said I could get

up ONLY to

> use restroom (but not shower) and 5-10 to cook food. No more. So,

I got

> used to anything that could be microwaved real quick. Now, I'm

paying for

> it, think I " m addicted to the ease of it.

>

> 2. drinking so much sugar all day long, no plain water at all. I

can easily

> drink a pitcher of sweet tea a day, and have been known to guzzle a

gallon of

> Kool-Aid as if the sugar weren't even in there. I need to get back

to

> drinking water but it's so hard to give up the taste..

>

> 3. spotty exercise, nothing consistent. I have been taking the

puppy and

> baby on a couple walks a day, but that's never been enough for me.

When I

> lost all my weight before I exercised at least 2 hours a day. Back

then I

> was a college student and now I just don't have that kind of

time...or the

> energy, which I need to exercise to get back (don't we love those

unkind

> loops of reality?). The answer for me is in exercise tapes taht I

can do

> late at night between writing sessions...but I'm bored with the

ones I have.

> I need something new and was going to buy the walking tapes this

weekend but

> we paid the mortgage and an extraordinary large phone bill and now

we're

> broke until my boyfriend gets paid next Thurs. The consequences of

me

> staying home to play mommy I guess. SO, how do I motivate to do

the old

> tapes despite boredom?

>

> I am at a total loss as to where to begin or how. I really forget

how to eat

> healthy. I go to the store and I struggle over what to buy or not

buy, it's

> like the skill of choosing healthy just disappeared. How can this

be? How

> did you guys begin? What were you first steps? I need HELP!

>

> I am going to set some goals, but don't know where I should start

or what is

> reasonable. Last time I did this I was eating mass amounts of food

and

> swallowing tons of laxatives and diet pills everyday, so it has

been a long

> time since I actually ate healthy.

>

> Theresa

[Guest guest]

Oh my...poor baby!

Well - let's see. There are 2 things you need to change - what you

eat and what you drink. Which one is going to be easiest for you?

(I bet you said drinking...)OK - anything you want to drink so long

as it has 0 clories and 0 fat, except for your skim milk and 4 zo.

juice a day.

After you feel 'well adjusted and aredn't craveing the old sugary

stuffs in the drinks you can go another step and start with the food.

That's the approach I have to take - I have a vaery low tolarance for

not getting what I want :-)

Ang

> I am just gaining and gaining here. The little steps I have taken

just

> aren't working. I know what my problems are:

>

> 1. eating very unhealthy, quick foods (Croissant Pockets, frozen

> burritos....just JUNK). I got used to this when I was pregnant and

on bed

> rest. Had no one home to cook for me, so doctor said I could get

up ONLY to

> use restroom (but not shower) and 5-10 to cook food. No more. So,

I got

> used to anything that could be microwaved real quick. Now, I'm

paying for

> it, think I " m addicted to the ease of it.

>

> 2. drinking so much sugar all day long, no plain water at all. I

can easily

> drink a pitcher of sweet tea a day, and have been known to guzzle a

gallon of

> Kool-Aid as if the sugar weren't even in there. I need to get back

to

> drinking water but it's so hard to give up the taste..

>

> 3. spotty exercise, nothing consistent. I have been taking the

puppy and

> baby on a couple walks a day, but that's never been enough for me.

When I

> lost all my weight before I exercised at least 2 hours a day. Back

then I

> was a college student and now I just don't have that kind of

time...or the

> energy, which I need to exercise to get back (don't we love those

unkind

> loops of reality?). The answer for me is in exercise tapes taht I

can do

> late at night between writing sessions...but I'm bored with the

ones I have.

> I need something new and was going to buy the walking tapes this

weekend but

> we paid the mortgage and an extraordinary large phone bill and now

we're

> broke until my boyfriend gets paid next Thurs. The consequences of

me

> staying home to play mommy I guess. SO, how do I motivate to do

the old

> tapes despite boredom?

>

> I am at a total loss as to where to begin or how. I really forget

how to eat

> healthy. I go to the store and I struggle over what to buy or not

buy, it's

> like the skill of choosing healthy just disappeared. How can this

be? How

> did you guys begin? What were you first steps? I need HELP!

>

> I am going to set some goals, but don't know where I should start

or what is

> reasonable. Last time I did this I was eating mass amounts of food

and

> swallowing tons of laxatives and diet pills everyday, so it has

been a long

> time since I actually ate healthy.

>

> Theresa

[Guest guest]

>

> Like they say " you are what you eat " It is true.

........LOL. How many of you are fast and cheap? LOL.

I guess that makes me as sweet as sugar. <giggle>

[Guest guest]

OH NO I am fast and cheap with a lot of sweet!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Jacy

-- Re: HELP!

>

> Like they say " you are what you eat " It is true.

.........LOL. How many of you are fast and cheap? LOL.

I guess that makes me as sweet as sugar. <giggle>

[Guest guest]

Then I am greasy and deep fried!

> OH NO I am fast and cheap with a lot of sweet!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

>

> Jacy

>

> -- Re: HELP!

>

>

> >

> > Like they say " you are what you eat " It is true.

>

>

> ........LOL. How many of you are fast and cheap? LOL.

> I guess that makes me as sweet as sugar. <giggle>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi theresa. I had the same problem with drinking water too! I was a

diet coke & iced tea junkie! Now I limit myself to 1 diet coke a

day. What helped me was the flavored carbonated water. It tastes so

sweet and good, and it has no cals or fat. The bottles are like 34

oz, so I try to drink 2 a day, and they are so cheap! Like 55 cents

at wal mart! Woo-hoo! I hope this helps and gl!

Kara

> I am just gaining and gaining here. The little steps I have taken

just

> aren't working. I know what my problems are:

>

> 1. eating very unhealthy, quick foods (Croissant Pockets, frozen

> burritos....just JUNK). I got used to this when I was pregnant

and on bed

> rest. Had no one home to cook for me, so doctor said I could get

up ONLY to

> use restroom (but not shower) and 5-10 to cook food. No more.

So, I got

> used to anything that could be microwaved real quick. Now, I'm

paying for

> it, think I " m addicted to the ease of it.

>

> 2. drinking so much sugar all day long, no plain water at all. I

can easily

> drink a pitcher of sweet tea a day, and have been known to guzzle

a gallon of

> Kool-Aid as if the sugar weren't even in there. I need to get

back to

> drinking water but it's so hard to give up the taste..

>

> 3. spotty exercise, nothing consistent. I have been taking the

puppy and

> baby on a couple walks a day, but that's never been enough for

me. When I

> lost all my weight before I exercised at least 2 hours a day.

Back then I

> was a college student and now I just don't have that kind of

time...or the

> energy, which I need to exercise to get back (don't we love those

unkind

> loops of reality?). The answer for me is in exercise tapes taht I

can do

> late at night between writing sessions...but I'm bored with the

ones I have.

> I need something new and was going to buy the walking tapes this

weekend but

> we paid the mortgage and an extraordinary large phone bill and now

we're

> broke until my boyfriend gets paid next Thurs. The consequences

of me

> staying home to play mommy I guess. SO, how do I motivate to do

the old

> tapes despite boredom?

>

> I am at a total loss as to where to begin or how. I really forget

how to eat

> healthy. I go to the store and I struggle over what to buy or not

buy, it's

> like the skill of choosing healthy just disappeared. How can this

be? How

> did you guys begin? What were you first steps? I need HELP!

>

> I am going to set some goals, but don't know where I should start

or what is

> reasonable. Last time I did this I was eating mass amounts of

food and

> swallowing tons of laxatives and diet pills everyday, so it has

been a long

> time since I actually ate healthy.

>

> Theresa

[Guest guest]

LOL! Hahaha.

> OH NO I am fast and cheap with a lot of sweet!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

>

> Jacy

>

> -- Re: HELP!

>

>

> >

> > Like they say " you are what you eat " It is true.

>

>

> ........LOL. How many of you are fast and cheap? LOL.

> I guess that makes me as sweet as sugar. <giggle>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Ohhh Theresa. I have been where you are now! Its not easy! Come on

guys, lets give her some ideas of what she can do. Here are mine:

1. Easy foods: Can you set aside a time to cook every week? Then,

make lots of big meals and freeze them in single serving sizes? Go

buy a bunch of tupperware and do this, or freezer bags if you can't

afford the plastic! They both work. Then, you just pop them in the

microwave and they take as long to cook as your pockets and burritos,

and they taste much better and are better for you! And how about

things like cereal, yogurt, fruit, etc. Those are even faster!

If you have to have the croissant pockets, do they come in lean? Or

how about making your own burritos and freezing them? All of the

sodium in the premade stuff is probably making you retain about 20

gallons of water!

2. Not drinking water: I've been there too. Stricly diet coke

woman, dont' make me drink water! Can you slowly come off the sweet

tea or Kool Aid? Maybe water it down more and more every day until it

becomes too nasty to drink and then just drink water? Or maybe for

every glass of the sweet stuff, you drink a glass of water afterwards?

Or maybe only use little glasses and make yourself brush your teeth

after each glass you drink? Maybe that will deter you from drinking

so much? I dont' know what else. I just quit the pop cold turkey and

have been drinking a lot of water ever since.

3. Spotty exercise: I have heard people here talk about borrowing

them from the library. I personally have never tried that, but it

works for some. I get bored with tapes too. Not to mention the

people in there are too cheery and aren't sweating their butts off

like I am at home, so I get anoyed! I hope you don't jump back into 2

hours of exercise a day. If you want to do that much, work up to it!

Hope some of that helps Theresa. Hang in there!

> I am just gaining and gaining here. The little steps I have taken

just

> aren't working. I know what my problems are:

>

> 1. eating very unhealthy, quick foods (Croissant Pockets, frozen

> burritos....just JUNK). I got used to this when I was pregnant and

on bed

> rest. Had no one home to cook for me, so doctor said I could get up

ONLY to

> use restroom (but not shower) and 5-10 to cook food. No more. So,

I got

> used to anything that could be microwaved real quick. Now, I'm

paying for

> it, think I " m addicted to the ease of it.

>

> 2. drinking so much sugar all day long, no plain water at all. I

can easily

> drink a pitcher of sweet tea a day, and have been known to guzzle a

gallon of

> Kool-Aid as if the sugar weren't even in there. I need to get back

to

> drinking water but it's so hard to give up the taste..

>

> 3. spotty exercise, nothing consistent. I have been taking the

puppy and

> baby on a couple walks a day, but that's never been enough for me.

When I

> lost all my weight before I exercised at least 2 hours a day. Back

then I

> was a college student and now I just don't have that kind of

time...or the

> energy, which I need to exercise to get back (don't we love those

unkind

> loops of reality?). The answer for me is in exercise tapes taht I

can do

> late at night between writing sessions...but I'm bored with the ones

I have.

> I need something new and was going to buy the walking tapes this

weekend but

> we paid the mortgage and an extraordinary large phone bill and now

we're

> broke until my boyfriend gets paid next Thurs. The consequences of

me

> staying home to play mommy I guess. SO, how do I motivate to do the

old

> tapes despite boredom?

>

> I am at a total loss as to where to begin or how. I really forget

how to eat

> healthy. I go to the store and I struggle over what to buy or not

buy, it's

> like the skill of choosing healthy just disappeared. How can this

be? How

> did you guys begin? What were you first steps? I need HELP!

>

> I am going to set some goals, but don't know where I should start or

what is

> reasonable. Last time I did this I was eating mass amounts of food

and

> swallowing tons of laxatives and diet pills everyday, so it has been

a long

> time since I actually ate healthy.

>

> Theresa

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 9/14/02 11:47:23 AM Eastern Daylight Time,

amvdhrjr@... writes:

> anything you want to drink so long

> as it has 0 clories and 0 fat, except for your skim milk and 4 zo.

> juice a day.

>

I went out tonight and bought Crystal Light, tons of water, some flavored

water I''ll give a try. I'm going to try to stick to those, but it is so

hard. My boyfriend made tea and I jsut love iced tea, used to drink it all

day...and then the baby drinks Juicy Juice so there is always tons of that

around, and the Cherry tempts me! I always thought 100% juice was good for

you, but the sugar makes it bad, right?

Theresa

[Guest guest]

Thanks Joanne! I plan on sipping more juice with the baby. She gets hers

half/half with bottled water (she won't drink from tap and neither will I, we

have well water here in rural NC, yuck).

Theresa

[Guest guest]

I always thought 100% juice was good for

> you, but the sugar makes it bad, right?

>

> Theresa

>

Juice is good for you, but its very concentrated ..... just think how

many apples or oranges do they have to squeeze to get one cup of

juice? I usually do this... take 1/3 a glass of juice and add 2/3

seltzer and lots of ice. It's healthy and not too sweet.

Joanne

[Guest guest]

> In a message dated 9/14/02 11:47:23 AM Eastern Daylight Time,

> amvdhrjr@n... writes:

>

>

> > anything you want to drink so long

> > as it has 0 clories and 0 fat, except for your skim milk and 4

zo.

> > juice a day.

> >

>

> I went out tonight and bought Crystal Light, tons of water, some

flavored

> water I''ll give a try. I'm going to try to stick to those, but it

is so

> hard. My boyfriend made tea and I jsut love iced tea, used to

drink it all

> day...and then the baby drinks Juicy Juice so there is always tons

of that

> around, and the Cherry tempts me! I always thought 100% juice was

good for

> you, but the sugar makes it bad, right?

>

> Theresa

>

>

Right. Your body needs about 4 to 6 oz a day to get the vitamins and

such - after that your only adding calories that you don't need - and

sugar too. Be sure not to give the baby more that 4 oz eighter.

Unless he/she needs it for bowls, then do 6 oz. a day.

You can have tea - as much as you want...just don't boil the tea bags

in the water, don't make it in alumanum or any other metal if you can

avoid it, and use sweetener or get use to it unsweetened.

I was the best ice tea maker - could have won a ribbon even in the

south :-) I drnk more than a galon a day (Lipton only of

course)...but I found that if it wasn't sweetened - and done at the

right time, it wsn't good enough for me.

Then, after no sweet tea, and using diet soda...sweetend tea was

like - yuk! I like the way it taists, kind of, but it was so sweet

that I felt like I needed to brush my teeth to get rid of the coating

in my mouth. Now that I have gone to water (I can't believe it

myself - wow)...even a little diet soda is so sweet it's not possible

to drink unless I am partched or eating something very salty. Just

stick with it - you'll be suprized how your wants and taists will

change.

Ang

[Guest guest]

Hey all -

I've been really quiet in the postings of late - well, about me, anyway. I'm

just floundering! This started out as a plateau, and it went into an all-out

effort to break the plateau, and the final result was a horrific 2 day binge

that I'm really embarrassed about. No, I didn't journal it - there isn't

that much memory in my PDA! Suffice to say that I'm at least 100 points in

the hole, and miserable!!

My goal was totally realistic - to lose 3 pounds during the month. Okay - so

what happened? Half way through the month, I was only .8 away. I'll have to

get on the scale at work to determine the exact damage, but I'm not even at

goal anymore This happens, and what I need to do is stop it before it

gets worse - and I'm really stuck.

I can stop the binge. I can plan my meals, drink my water, do my exercise,

but I can't make those darned pounds come off, and it's making me crazy!!

This is beyond frustration - it's absolutely demoralizing! I'm not even

holding steady, now. I'm back to a slow, steady gain! I am NOT going back

to being fat.

I have all the answers for everyone else - but for me, I'm lost. I know to

pray - I know to journal - I know to follow the program. But, I've done that

- and I've waited - and still, nothing. What about when God says " no " ?

Sorry - but I'm totally bummed this morning. Any help would be appreciated.

-Crys-

(Lifetimer since August 1995)

January Goal: 137

February Goal: 135

March Goal: 132

April Goal: 130

May Goal: 127

June Goal: 125

And then, we'll see...

I'm not crazy; I'm just a little unwell.

I know, right now you can't tell.

But stay a while and maybe then you'll see

a different side of me.

I'm not crazy; I'm just a little impaired.

I know, right now you don't care.

But in a while you're gonna think of me,

and how I used to be.

Matchbox 20

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 1/23/2003 6:43:43 AM Eastern Standard Time,

ksandberg@... writes:

>

> Sounds to me like you need a swift kick in the butt and then start fresh

> today. This just means you are normal. I don't know if I have EVER met

> anyone who can stay 100% on program every single day forever.

>

You're right - I did - and THANK YOU!

> I would also suggest that you only weigh yourself once a month or maybe even

> not at all. When you were 1/2 through the month and .8 pound away from...

> the 3 pound goal or only that amount lost? Regardless, as someone else

> here

> mentioned earlier about weighing every day - your weight fluctuates so much

> even daily. (Depending on that TOM, what you ate the day before or that

> morning, the time of day, what you were wearing, etc.) If the binge was

> triggered by being more than 1/2 way to your monthly goal (.8 pound left to

> lose to get to 3 pounds)? As in you could " afford " to have a day off of

> tracking?

>

I only have to weigh once a month (at least, if I can get BACK down to goal

by February), but I'll probably continue weekly just so I can attend the

meeting. No, the trigger wasn't being low - it was the plateau that ensued

the following 2 weeks! I decided to crack down and try the Wendie plan again

- and trying to hold myself to such low points almost always does me in.

> Just get back on the wagon and realize you are human too. Okay, so you

> binged a couple of days. Are you in control today? That's what matters.

> Maybe you are too much in control and your body is letting you know this.

I think that's it - I tried *too* hard, and my body fought back with a binge.

That makes it sound like it wasn't my choice, and I'm really not trying to

pass the buck. It's just, I think something must cause that " out of control "

feeling, because it's not in my nature. Still, when you squeeze the sand

really hard, it slips through your fingers even faster. The more we think we

control, the less we really do.

Fresh start - new day - and I'm snowed in, away from temptation <g>. I am

NEVER gonna get my car fixed!!

-Crys-

(Lifetimer since August 1995)

WW to date: 178.6/ 138.6 / 140   (-40.0)

Weight in 2003: 139.6 / 138.6 / 130 (-1.0)

(the last time I weighed in, that is)

January Goal: 137

February Goal: 135

March Goal: 132

April Goal: 130

May Goal: 127

June Goal: 125

And then, we'll see...

I'm not crazy; I'm just a little unwell.

I know, right now you can't tell.

But stay a while and maybe then you'll see

a different side of me.

I'm not crazy; I'm just a little impaired.

I know, right now you don't care.

But in a while you're gonna think of me,

and how I used to be.

Matchbox 20

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 1/23/2003 7:48:52 AM Eastern Standard Time,

brles48@... writes:

> I would rather be healthy, eating well on program, than some number that

> makes me have to live with binges.

>

You may be right. Just because I *want* to be at the low end of my range;

that doesn't mean I *should* be there. And if what it takes to get there is

making myself sick (yes, the binge-purge cycle is a sickness), then maybe it

*isn't* where I should be. I may just have to settle in at being healthy and

stable, rather than thinking of it as a plateau. This just may *be* where I

need to be. I really don't like that <g>, but we don't always get what we

want.

Today has been good so far. I had a healthy breakfast, and when I got hungry

afterwards, I fixed what I wanted for a healthy lunch (put the sandwich in

the fridge for tomorrow, and made the potstickers that I was craving). I'm

about half way through them - chewing slowly and enjoying every bite. I also

have some wheat bread rising on the stove, so I can use the dough for

something healthy for dinner.

Finally, I'm going back to my maintence range (20-25pts), and dropping the

" lose, lose, lose " objective. It's doing me more harm than good, and it's

just not worth it! Two days won't destroy all I've done, but this pattern of

eating will destroy *me*.

Thanks to everyone for all your support. I'll get through this

-Crys-

(Lifetimer since August 1995)

WW to date: 178.6/ 138.6 / 140   (-40.0)

Weight in 2003: 139.6 / 138.6 / 130 (-1.0)

I'm not crazy; I'm just a little unwell.

I know, right now you can't tell.

But stay a while and maybe then you'll see

a different side of me.

I'm not crazy; I'm just a little impaired.

I know, right now you don't care.

But in a while you're gonna think of me,

and how I used to be.

Matchbox 20

[Guest guest]

Sounds to me like you need a swift kick in the butt and then start fresh

today. This just means you are normal. I don't know if I have EVER met

anyone who can stay 100% on program every single day forever.

I would also suggest that you only weigh yourself once a month or maybe even

not at all. When you were 1/2 through the month and .8 pound away from...

the 3 pound goal or only that amount lost? Regardless, as someone else here

mentioned earlier about weighing every day - your weight fluctuates so much

even daily. (Depending on that TOM, what you ate the day before or that

morning, the time of day, what you were wearing, etc.) If the binge was

triggered by being more than 1/2 way to your monthly goal (.8 pound left to

lose to get to 3 pounds)? As in you could " afford " to have a day off of

tracking?

Just get back on the wagon and realize you are human too. Okay, so you

binged a couple of days. Are you in control today? That's what matters.

Maybe you are too much in control and your body is letting you know this.

By the way, is anyone watching the Discovery Health Body Challenge 2 on the

Discovery Health Channel?

http://health.discovery.com/convergence/bodychallenge2/bodychallenge2.html

It's on tonight. Six people who are overweight are on a 16-week challenge

competition complete with trainers during that time. The winner receives a

week at a spa in Hawaii. The best part is that the winner is not determined

by weight loss. It is a combination of weight loss, body fat loss, and

mental attitude. 8 PM Eastern Time. I watched the two-hour special from

last year and they ended it by bringing the original six back together a

year LATER. Everyone had kept off what they had lost and some had lost even

more.

I deviated off of Crys' binge to this show because I've felt that watching

this hour long show has helped ME to stay on track - not 100% by the way.

[Guest guest]

> Hey all -

>

What about when God says " no " ?

>

> Sorry - but I'm totally bummed this morning. Any help would be

appreciated.

>

>

> -Crys-

Hey Crys,

Maybe God's not saying " no " , maybe he's saying " in a while "

It will start going down again, you just stick to the program, or try

Tory's " juggling " act to kick it back in gear. Just don't get

discouraged and binge anymore, ok? You've come too far, to go

backwards now.

You're dedicated, intelligent, and strong! YOU CAN DO THIS!! and

you're an inspiration to all of us just starting out!

Bev

[Guest guest]

First I want to say been there and done that, then I go into serious Grandma

mode....I think you very clearly said what happened here. Or at least it seems

kind of clear to me " all out effort to break the plateau " ? While I still

starved, I still binged, but that is just me. I am Very careful not to starve

any more, and I have not had a binge in a long long time. I am also not at

goal. Still losing consistently, but not at goal. And if I get so hungry that

I want to binge, before getting to goal, I am stopping. (Just my opinion, worth

what it costs ) I would rather be healthy, eating well on program, than some

number that makes me have to live with binges.

Lesanne

(365)247/187/159

Help!

Hey all -

I've been really quiet in the postings of late - well, about me, anyway. I'm

just floundering! This started out as a plateau, and it went into an all-out

effort to break the plateau, and the final result was a horrific 2 day binge

that I'm really embarrassed about. No, I didn't journal it - there isn't

that much memory in my PDA! Suffice to say that I'm at least 100 points in

the hole, and miserable!!

My goal was totally realistic - to lose 3 pounds during the month. Okay - so

what happened? Half way through the month, I was only .8 away. I'll have to

get on the scale at work to determine the exact damage, but I'm not even at

goal anymore This happens, and what I need to do is stop it before it

gets worse - and I'm really stuck.

I can stop the binge. I can plan my meals, drink my water, do my exercise,

but I can't make those darned pounds come off, and it's making me crazy!!

This is beyond frustration - it's absolutely demoralizing! I'm not even

holding steady, now. I'm back to a slow, steady gain! I am NOT going back

to being fat.

I have all the answers for everyone else - but for me, I'm lost. I know to

pray - I know to journal - I know to follow the program. But, I've done that

- and I've waited - and still, nothing. What about when God says " no " ?

Sorry - but I'm totally bummed this morning. Any help would be appreciated.

-Crys-

(Lifetimer since August 1995)

January Goal: 137

February Goal: 135

March Goal: 132

April Goal: 130

May Goal: 127

June Goal: 125

And then, we'll see...

I'm not crazy; I'm just a little unwell.

I know, right now you can't tell.

But stay a while and maybe then you'll see

a different side of me.

I'm not crazy; I'm just a little impaired.

I know, right now you don't care.

But in a while you're gonna think of me,

and how I used to be.

Matchbox 20

[Guest guest]

I had a really hard time after christmas. I went off program for three

weeks (Hawaii, and then 2 weeks at christmas). It took a good three

weeks to get back on track. I felt like I was starving all the time and

wanted to (and did) binge a few times. I felt totally out of control

and actually had doubts that I could continue. I talked to my leader

and she said that sometimes when you go off program and eat a lot of the

foods you were not eating previously your body has a hard time. She was

very encouraging and told me to stick with it and that it would get

better as the weeks went on. At first on concentrated on my water and

making sure I got all my fruits and veggies in. Then I worked on slowly

incorporating exercise again. Now I have had three good weeks in a row,

I don't feel like I'm starving or depriving myself. I feel in control

again. You can do this. You have worked too hard to get where you are

today.

>

> Hey all -

>

> I've been really quiet in the postings of late - well, about me,

> anyway. I'm

> just floundering! This started out as a plateau, and it went into

> an all-out

> effort to break the plateau, and the final result was a horrific 2

> day binge

> that I'm really embarrassed about. No, I didn't journal it - there

> isn't

> that much memory in my PDA! Suffice to say that I'm at least 100

> points in

> the hole, and miserable!!

>

>

> -Crys-

>

> (Lifetimer since August 1995)

> January Goal: 137

> February Goal: 135

> March Goal: 132

> April Goal: 130

> May Goal: 127

> June Goal: 125

> And then, we'll see...

>

> I'm not crazy; I'm just a little unwell.

> I know, right now you can't tell.

> But stay a while and maybe then you'll see

> a different side of me.

>

> I'm not crazy; I'm just a little impaired.

> I know, right now you don't care.

> But in a while you're gonna think of me,

> and how I used to be.

>

> Matchbox 20

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Crys.

Three years ago I was at 132. I wanted so much to go down to 130. No

matter how much I exercised, no matter how much I eat less it didn't

budge. I then decided to go see a nutritionist who told me that my

body, even thought I am small boned, is comfortable at 132 and I

should accept it for now. She said let your body get used to this

weight before you start losing again, give it six months she said. I

didn't I kept going to the point that I reversed my effort. So I went

back up to 150!

My advice first, as Lesanne suggested too, is to weigh yourself less

often. Next is that don't cut back on your points. Actually eat on

the higher end, your body is telling you it needs you to eat more.

Third don't let yourself get hungry. Have some low point snacks

between breakfast and lunch, and between lunch and dinner. I noticed

that when I get hungry I eat even more. Lastly if you want to eat

even more, go for 0-point veggies. Eat as much as you want until you

feel you are full. I hope this reminder helps. Because I am sure you

know about all these.

gs

> Sorry - but I'm totally bummed this morning.

> Any help would be appreciated.

>

>

> -Crys-

>

[Guest guest]

Boy do you ever deserve a big hug. Sending it now. You are also so smart.

Slowing down and tasting the food. And yes, the B/P cycle is ever bit as big a

killer as the fat is truth to tell. And like any of those other black/white

on/off etc etc things, one has a hard time Being there without the other.

Re: Help!

In a message dated 1/23/2003 7:48:52 AM Eastern Standard Time,

brles48@... writes:

> I would rather be healthy, eating well on program, than some number that

> makes me have to live with binges.

>

You may be right. Just because I *want* to be at the low end of my range;

that doesn't mean I *should* be there. And if what it takes to get there is

making myself sick (yes, the binge-purge cycle is a sickness), then maybe it

*isn't* where I should be. I may just have to settle in at being healthy and

stable, rather than thinking of it as a plateau. This just may *be* where I

need to be. I really don't like that <g>, but we don't always get what we

want.

Today has been good so far. I had a healthy breakfast, and when I got hungry

afterwards, I fixed what I wanted for a healthy lunch (put the sandwich in

the fridge for tomorrow, and made the potstickers that I was craving). I'm

about half way through them - chewing slowly and enjoying every bite. I also

have some wheat bread rising on the stove, so I can use the dough for

something healthy for dinner.

Finally, I'm going back to my maintence range (20-25pts), and dropping the

" lose, lose, lose " objective. It's doing me more harm than good, and it's

just not worth it! Two days won't destroy all I've done, but this pattern of

eating will destroy *me*.

Thanks to everyone for all your support. I'll get through this

-Crys-

(Lifetimer since August 1995)

WW to date: 178.6/ 138.6 / 140 (-40.0)

Weight in 2003: 139.6 / 138.6 / 130 (-1.0)

I'm not crazy; I'm just a little unwell.

I know, right now you can't tell.

But stay a while and maybe then you'll see

a different side of me.

I'm not crazy; I'm just a little impaired.

I know, right now you don't care.

But in a while you're gonna think of me,

and how I used to be.

Matchbox 20

[Guest guest]

We're here for ya Crys... you have the right mindset going on now.. don't

give up.

God Bless,

<>< Lori <><

on Weight Watchers since 1/2/03

193.5/182.5/125

Tupperware Consultant

http://my.tupperware.com/lcowart

DON'T TELL GOD HOW BIG YOUR PROBLEMS ARE... TELL YOUR PROBLEMS HOW BIG YOUR

GOD IS....

Re: Help!

In a message dated 1/23/2003 7:48:52 AM Eastern Standard Time,

brles48@... writes:

> I would rather be healthy, eating well on program, than some number that

> makes me have to live with binges.

>

You may be right. Just because I *want* to be at the low end of my range;

that doesn't mean I *should* be there. And if what it takes to get there is

making myself sick (yes, the binge-purge cycle is a sickness), then maybe it

*isn't* where I should be. I may just have to settle in at being healthy

and

stable, rather than thinking of it as a plateau. This just may *be* where I

need to be. I really don't like that <g>, but we don't always get what we

want.

Today has been good so far. I had a healthy breakfast, and when I got

hungry

afterwards, I fixed what I wanted for a healthy lunch (put the sandwich in

the fridge for tomorrow, and made the potstickers that I was craving). I'm

about half way through them - chewing slowly and enjoying every bite. I

also

have some wheat bread rising on the stove, so I can use the dough for

something healthy for dinner.

Finally, I'm going back to my maintence range (20-25pts), and dropping the

" lose, lose, lose " objective. It's doing me more harm than good, and it's

just not worth it! Two days won't destroy all I've done, but this pattern

of

eating will destroy *me*.

Thanks to everyone for all your support. I'll get through this

-Crys-

(Lifetimer since August 1995)

WW to date: 178.6/ 138.6 / 140 (-40.0)

Weight in 2003: 139.6 / 138.6 / 130 (-1.0)

I'm not crazy; I'm just a little unwell.

I know, right now you can't tell.

But stay a while and maybe then you'll see

a different side of me.

I'm not crazy; I'm just a little impaired.

I know, right now you don't care.

But in a while you're gonna think of me,

and how I used to be.

Matchbox 20

[Guest guest]

If you are exercising a lot eating at the low end might not be enough.

When I exercise a lot I always it mid-high in my range. I never eat

activity points but if you are using a lot of energy you need fuel.

> You may be right. Just because I *want* to be at the low end of my

> range;

> that doesn't mean I *should* be there. And if what it takes to get

> there is

> making myself sick (yes, the binge-purge cycle is a sickness), then

> maybe it

> *isn't* where I should be. I may just have to settle in at being

> healthy and

> stable, rather than thinking of it as a plateau. This just may *be*

> where I

> need to be. I really don't like that <g>, but we don't always get

> what we

> want.

>

> Finally, I'm going back to my maintence range (20-25pts), and dropping

> the

> " lose, lose, lose " objective. It's doing me more harm than good, and

> it's

> just not worth it! Two days won't destroy all I've done, but this

> pattern of

> eating will destroy *me*.

>

> Thanks to everyone for all your support. I'll get through this

>

> -Crys-

>

> (Lifetimer since August 1995)

> WW to date: 178.6/ 138.6 / 140 (-40.0)

> Weight in 2003: 139.6 / 138.6 / 130 (-1.0)

>

> I'm not crazy; I'm just a little unwell.

> I know, right now you can't tell.

> But stay a while and maybe then you'll see

> a different side of me.

>

> I'm not crazy; I'm just a little impaired.

> I know, right now you don't care.

> But in a while you're gonna think of me,

> and how I used to be.

>

> Matchbox 20

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

> Sorry - but I'm totally bummed this morning.  Any help would be appreciated.

>

Oh Crys -

I wish I had words of wisdom -- you certainly seem to be doing all the right

things. Hang in there, be totally faithful to the journal (my biggest

weakness) and you will get back on track. Try not to panic - it only makes

things worse...

Vicki, The Queen of Panic

Rochester NY