Re: Need advice on hyperactivity/sleep deprivation

[Guest guest]

The GFCF diet helped the most and then getting rid of phenols, additives,

preservatives in food--I think this is solving a part in the problem rather

than a pharmaceutical band-aid.

[ ] Need advice on hyperactivity/sleep deprivation

Hi Listmates,

I have been bending your ear lately on behalf of parents that are going

through this chealation process. I have a friend with an asd child who is 6

1/2 years old and has never slept through the night. I know many of you can

relate to this. The problem they are having is that is waking up

several times during the night, and during the day very hyperactive. They

are giving her melatonin and it gets her to sleep, but does not help the

waking up during the night. The doctor wants to give her clonadine for the

hyperactivity, but it makes her sleepy and she cries alot, so that isn't an

option for them. Any suggestions as to products to help her sleep, or help

the hyperactivity?

Thanks in advanced for my tired friend!

Jane

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In a message dated 9/12/01 1:32:43 PM EST, weatherman6001@... writes:

<< Any suggestions as to products to help her sleep, or help

the hyperactivity? >>

My son never slept more than 2 straight hours from the time he was four month

old until he was 4 1/2. At 3 1/2, he began some isolated episodes of

hyperactivity which gradually became more frequent. At 4 1/2, we suspected

he had hypoglycemia (on top of a whole bunch of other stuff). We changed his

diet (already were gfcf, Feingold, no yeast, sugar, nuts, eggs, etc) by

feeding protein with every meal and especially before bed. In 2 days, he was

only waking twice a night and now, a few months later, rarely wakes at all

during the night. The book I read to help with this diet was Your

Carbohydrate Addicted Kids (by Hellman and Hellman, I think). This diet also

helped some with his hyperactivity, though I realize now that phenols were

also a big key to his hyperacticity. I know this isn't the answer for

everyone, but reducing phenols and following the hypoglycemia diet worked

wonders for us.

Debbie

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I'm sorry to have this repeated, but could someone please tell me again

what phenols are? Thanks.

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> The problem they are having is that is waking up

>several times during the night, and during the day very hyperactive. They

>are giving her melatonin and it gets her to sleep, but does not help the

>waking up during the night. The doctor wants to give her clonadine for the

>hyperactivity, but it makes her sleepy and she cries alot, so that isn't an

>option for them. Any suggestions as to products to help her sleep, or help

>the hyperactivity?

Hi Jane,

I have a rather bizarre comment; would require a " try it out "

sort of attitude, and perhaps some research.

Use brain synchronization tapes that use binuaral beat to create

brainwave states. I know that may sound like gobbledey gook.

It is actually pretty straight forward, but amazing. You play

a recording, with headphones on. The recording has different

frequencies playing in each ear. The brain actaully synchronizes

itself on the difference between them. So, recordings can be made

that will result in different kinds of brainwave states. Like

focused/creative, or asleep. I'm not sure if this will KEEP

you asleep all night, but for sure you can cause " deep sleep "

brainwaves -- which I think will put most people right to sleep.

(After the tape ends, you might stay asleep or wake up though?)

The tape " sound sleeper " tape listed here, for example:

http://www.hemi-sync.com/catalog/single.html

That page is a sub-part of this page:

http://www.hemi-sync.com/catalog/ click on " single tapes and CDs "

This will only work if the child involved will listen with

headphones on. The sounds have to be played into R and L ear

separately.

I have not used the sound sleeper tape (I think I have 1 or 2

tapes from the monroe institute somewhere --- the catalog

I just cited is The Monroe Institute. Their main site is here:

http://www.monroeinstitute.org/

The tapes I listen to (almost every night) are from

www.centerpointe.com

Their stuff is MUCH more expensive that other companies' but

I think worth it. I would recommend their program to anyone,

but must warn you about their bizarre and obnoxious advertising.

best,

Moria

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Ok we put up with the sleep thing for 6 years then we introduced Vallergan

2mls each night - then discovered melatonin we now use melatonin plus only 1

ml of vallergan it works really well -hes such a happier boy from the extra

sleep easier in many ways. I remember it took a few days for the vallergan

to work and curb old habits - but now when I have tried to stop it slowly

over a few nights he is back to waking anytime from 4 in the morning - with

the mel/vall unless he is unwell its between 6 and 7am.

I haven't seen anyone mention Vallergan on this list before - the really

good thing about it once you get the dose right for your child there is now

hangover effect. weighs 56lbs.

Hope this helps.

Terri s Mum to 8yrs, Todd 4yrs both Aut/Dys/ADD who knows

what else - but improving with chelation.

Re: [ ] Need advice on hyperactivity/sleep deprivation

>> The problem they are having is that is waking up

>>several times during the night, and during the day very hyperactive.

They

>>are giving her melatonin and it gets her to sleep, but does not help the

>>waking up during the night. The doctor wants to give her clonadine for

the

>>hyperactivity, but it makes her sleepy and she cries alot, so that isn't

an

>>option for them. Any suggestions as to products to help her sleep, or

help

>>the hyperactivity?

>

>

>Hi Jane,

>

>I have a rather bizarre comment; would require a " try it out "

>sort of attitude, and perhaps some research.

>

>Use brain synchronization tapes that use binuaral beat to create

>brainwave states. I know that may sound like gobbledey gook.

>It is actually pretty straight forward, but amazing. You play

>a recording, with headphones on. The recording has different

>frequencies playing in each ear. The brain actaully synchronizes

>itself on the difference between them. So, recordings can be made

>that will result in different kinds of brainwave states. Like

>focused/creative, or asleep. I'm not sure if this will KEEP

>you asleep all night, but for sure you can cause " deep sleep "

>brainwaves -- which I think will put most people right to sleep.

>(After the tape ends, you might stay asleep or wake up though?)

>

>The tape " sound sleeper " tape listed here, for example:

>http://www.hemi-sync.com/catalog/single.html

>That page is a sub-part of this page:

>http://www.hemi-sync.com/catalog/ click on " single tapes and CDs "

>

>This will only work if the child involved will listen with

>headphones on. The sounds have to be played into R and L ear

>separately.

>I have not used the sound sleeper tape (I think I have 1 or 2

>tapes from the monroe institute somewhere --- the catalog

>I just cited is The Monroe Institute. Their main site is here:

>http://www.monroeinstitute.org/

>The tapes I listen to (almost every night) are from

>www.centerpointe.com

>Their stuff is MUCH more expensive that other companies' but

>I think worth it. I would recommend their program to anyone,

>but must warn you about their bizarre and obnoxious advertising.

>

>best,

>Moria

>

>

>

>

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[Guest guest]

Teri,

Hi, where do you get valergan? Is is something purchased at the health food

store and is it related to vallerian root?

Thanks for the tip!

Jane

[Guest guest]

Have they tested the little girls yeast levels. Both symptoms of

hyperactivity and night waking are relavent to yeast overgrowth. She should

have stool and urine testing done to find out about both anerobic and aerobic

yeast and see if this is the culprit! (They can check for all the other gut

bugs as well, which might be very helpful.) Good Luck

[Guest guest]

Hi

sorry its not that healthy - the full name is Vallergan Forte 30mg/5ml on

prescription - I should think it would be under the same name in the US its

in the same family as phenergan but much stronger so you only need a tiny

bit.

Regards

Terri

PS forgot to give to Mitch last night sure enough woke at 5.00am, my little

one I have been hanging out to see if his sleep improves naturally but he

woke at 4.30am so will probably have to go down the same ave with him

shortly. Lots of tired parents and kids out there without a little help we

would all go over the edge I am sure.

Re: [ ] Need advice on hyperactivity/sleep deprivation

>Teri,

>

>Hi, where do you get valergan? Is is something purchased at the health

food

>store and is it related to vallerian root?

>

>Thanks for the tip!

> Jane

>

>

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