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What I posted on this was taken right from a sociological text book. It

was taken from the work of Wallis, and so could represent his views rather

than a sociological consensus. I do know that the impression I got from a

different sociology textbook was totally different, leaving me with the

impression that the terms were mostly merely indicative of size ( Cult

being smaller). I'm aware that you have a Sociology Ph D, so I confess to

being mystified somewhat by your response. I will check the reference for

Wallis and give it if I remember.

I hope Wallis is an adequate authority for me to cite, even if

" non-standard " . If one takes the position that AA is a World-Affirming

Sect, then it would also be considered a Cult by this system.

I think what matters for our purposes is that we agree that AA is a

religion. Whether it is a " cult " or " sect " in sociological terms is of

less importance. however, these terms are very emotive for

non-sociologists, which needs to be borne in mind when using them outside

the realm of Social Science, especially with steppers. By denouncing AA as

aa cult, we will likely alienate the uninformed unecessarily for

apparently 'intemperate' language.

Pete

> Pete - We would probably be better off following convention in using

terms like " cult " and " sect. " If you check your local library for an

introductory text on the Sociology of Religion, or look at some of the

articles in the professional journal by that name, you will find that

" cult " and " sect " refer to two distinct concepts, and two distinct classes

of phenomena. Not all experts use exactly the same definitions, but there

is a rough conformity in the field. Cults tend to be organizationally

diffuse, with ideologies that are more open-ended; sects tend to be

organizationally more tightly ordered, and ideologically more carefully

defined and rigid. Since there is an extensive literature on this topic, I

won't take up board space with it. I will leave it to you to explore it at

your leisure. Oh, and by the way, AA is a right-wing cult,

organizationally, but it is one whose overall direction has always been

guided by a powerful coterie of government and business leaders (not

themselves members of AA, of > course, since they are most decidedly NOT

powerless). And the ideology of AA has a definite slant: it is fascist. >

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