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--- I have used 5-HTP (hydroxy-tryptophan) on my daughter, who was

suffering severe depression...she was prescribed prozac at age 8.

After improving on Prozac for a couple of months, she began

complaining that she didn't want to take it anymore because Prozac

made her " feel funny. " She said it made her feel like she did not

like me, and she did not want to be around me at all. I discontinued

the prozac, and began giving her 50mg 5-HTP 2Xday. She did MUCH

better on this, without the " side effects. "

I also gave it to her brother, who has Autism...same dosage, it did

seem to calm him, but I have moved on to other nutritionals that help

him in additional areas since then.

Good luck and God bless, Lindy

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In @y..., " Youshock Pruyn " <sypruyn@e...> wrote:

> anyone using it w/ success?

>

> if so, what dosages per weight have you tried and what kinds of

benefits

> have you seen?

>

> thanks,

>

> Sue

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Can you cross the border to get it?

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At 21:27 22/03/2002 -0500, you wrote:

>here in canada it is not possible to get tryptophan anymore.

>in 1987 had used it extensively, it was very helpful.

>

>minna

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This post caught my eye because i had some veg. friends who did not eat lettuce

because they said it contained tryptophan and they did not like feeling tired

from eating it. i wondered about it and forgot to look into it. I was hoping

to learn more from your post myself ;)

--- In , Parashis <artpages@...>

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> In Lierre 's book THE VEGETARIAN MYTH, she says she was very short

> on tryptophan and it wasn't until she ate red meat that she was better.

>

> Is it true that vegetables don't give you tryptophan? I thought peanuts

> and other things did. Anyone know?

>

>

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This article talks about how to get it and absorb it. It looks like low-carb

meat eaters may be at more risk of low tryptophan!

http://www.nutritional-supplements-health-guide.com/sources-of-tryptophan.html

The book " Potatoes, Not Prozac " said to eat a protein meal then about an hour

before bed have a baked potato, which would tie up the other aminoes and let the

tryptophan through to the brain for raising serotonin and giving you a good

night's sleep.

If your friends are so afraid of feeling tired, I wonder if they're just not

getting enough nutrients - when I was a vegetarian I felt tired frequently, and

the longer I was a vegetarian the worse it got - until that fateful day at the

party with the hot dogs in sauerkraut in the crock pot...

--- In , Parashis <artpages@...>

wrote:

>

> In Lierre 's book THE VEGETARIAN MYTH, she says she was very short

> on tryptophan and it wasn't until she ate red meat that she was better.

>

> Is it true that vegetables don't give you tryptophan? I thought peanuts

> and other things did. Anyone know?

>

>

> Parashis

> artpages@...

>

> artpagesonline.com

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here are some food sources. you can google for more.

http://www.whfoods.com/genpage.php?tname=nutrient & dbid=103

--- In , Parashis <artpages@...>

wrote:

>

> In Lierre 's book THE VEGETARIAN MYTH, she says she was very short

> on tryptophan and it wasn't until she ate red meat that she was better.

>

> Is it true that vegetables don't give you tryptophan? I thought peanuts

> and other things did. Anyone know?

>

>

> Parashis

> artpages@...

>

> artpagesonline.com

>

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> If your friends are so afraid of feeling tired, I wonder if they're just not

getting enough nutrients - when I was a vegetarian I felt tired frequently, and

the longer I was a vegetarian the worse it got - until that fateful day at the

party with the hot dogs in sauerkraut in the crock pot...

That was what did it...hot dogs and sauerkraut? I mean for me it was steak. Hot

dogs would never do it, I'd still be eating that soy crap. :-)

Agree with you that fatigue catches up with you on a vegetarian (vegan) diet. I

had to have a pot of tea before I could begin moving and often had insomnia as

well.

Bill

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I don't understand the focus on tryptophan. Here is what Ray Peat says about it

in his interview with Shomon.

Shomon: You've mentioned eggs, milk and gelatin as good for the thyroid.

Can you explain a bit more about this?

Dr. Ray Peat: Milk contains a small amount of thyroid and progesterone, but it

also contains a good balance of amino acids. For adults, the amino acid balance

of cheese might be even better, since the whey portion of milk contains more

tryptophan than the curd, and tryptophan excess is significantly antagonistic to

thyroid function. The muscle meats contain so much tryptophan and cysteine

(which is both antithyroid and potentially excitotoxic) that a pure meat diet

can cause hypothyroidism. In poor countries, people have generally eaten all

parts of the animal, rather than just the muscles--feet, heads, skin, etc. About

half of the protein in an animal is collagen (gelatin), and collagen is

deficient in tryptophan and cysteine. This means that, in the whole animal, the

amino acid balance is similar to the adult's requirements. Research in the amino

acid requirements of adults has been very inadequate, since it has been largely

directed toward finding methods to produce farm animals with a minimum of

expense for feed. The meat industry isn't interested in finding a diet for

keeping chickens, pigs, and cattle healthy into old age. As a result, adult rats

have provided most of our direct information about the protein requirements of

adults, and since rats keep growing for most of their life, their amino acid

requirements are unlikely to be the same as ours.

http://www.thyroid-info.com/articles/ray-peat.htm

Joan

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