DAVID

[Guest guest]

HI,

I'VE BEEN TO ITALY TWICE BEFORE, AND HAD A GREAT TIME.

THE ARREA WE STAY IN WHERE MY FAMILY LIVE IS RIGHT IN THE HEEL OF ITALY, THERE ARE NOT MANY FOREAIGN TOURISTS THERE IF ANY.

BUT IT IS A BEAUTIFUL PLACE, THE PEOPLE ARE SO WARM AND LOVING, EVEN THOSE YOU'VE NEVER MET!

I KNOW I COULDN'T GO TO STAY WHILE I'M STILL IN MY WHEELCHAIR, BUT FINGERS CROSSED.

THIS WEEK I'VE BEEN IN BED, AND UNABLE TO GO ANYWHERE.

MANAGED TO GET OUT FOR FRESH AIR EARLIER TODAY, AND HAD TO VISIT THE BANK, I DIDN'T REALISE THE TIME, AND THEY WERE CLOSED AT 4.30PM WHEN I GOT THERE.

WILL HAVE TO GO AGAIN IN A FEW DAYS.

ANYWAY

HAVE A GOOD WEEKEND.

DAVID

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Re: DAVID

OH, DAVID !!! THE 'FOG' IS THE PITS, HON !!!! BUT IT SURE CAN BE FUNNY!! LIKE WHEN I PUT LAUNDRY IN THE FRIDGE, AND FROZEN FOOD IN THECUPBOARD !!! LOL ! BUT MY SON GETS MAD WHEN I CANT REMEMBER HIS NAME!!!!IF THERES ANYWAY YA CAN MAKE IT TO ITALY.....GO !!!!!!!!!!! IT IS SUCH AWONDERFUL CHANCE,HON !!! JUST BE SURE YA PLAN WISELY !!! BEFORE THETRIP, TAKE IT AS EASY AS YA CAN !! AND FOR THE TRIP, PLAN LOTS OF RESTSTOPS !!!!! WOW !! THATS EXCITING, HON !! 8^)

[Guest guest]

DAVID... I'M NOT TO SMART AT THE MOMENT, HON !! (LOL !!!) BUT WHERE IN

THE UK DO YA LIVE ??!! I'M DRAWING A BLANK ON WHAT ALL THE UK IS !!!!!

GEESH !!! LOL !

MY HUBBYS MOMS FAMILY IS FROM ITALY, BUT I FORGET WHERE !!! BUT I

COULDNT UNDERSTAND HIS GRAM AT ALL !!! SHE SPOKE VERY LITTLE ENGLISH !!!

8^)

HI,

I'VE BEEN TO ITALY TWICE BEFORE, AND HAD A GREAT TIME.

THE ARREA WE STAY IN WHERE MY FAMILY LIVE IS RIGHT IN THE HEEL OF ITALY, THERE ARE NOT MANY FOREAIGN TOURISTS THERE IF ANY.

BUT IT IS A BEAUTIFUL PLACE, THE PEOPLE ARE SO WARM AND LOVING, EVEN THOSE YOU'VE NEVER MET!

I KNOW I COULDN'T GO TO STAY WHILE I'M STILL IN MY WHEELCHAIR, BUT FINGERS CROSSED.

THIS WEEK I'VE BEEN IN BED, AND UNABLE TO GO ANYWHERE.

MANAGED TO GET OUT FOR FRESH AIR EARLIER TODAY, AND HAD TO VISIT THE BANK, I DIDN'T REALISE THE TIME, AND THEY WERE CLOSED AT 4.30PM WHEN I GOT THERE.

WILL HAVE TO GO AGAIN IN A FEW DAYS.

ANYWAY

HAVE A GOOD WEEKEND.

DAVID

- X -

Re: DAVID

OH, DAVID !!! THE 'FOG' IS THE PITS, HON !!!! BUT IT SURE CAN BE FUNNY!! LIKE WHEN I PUT LAUNDRY IN THE FRIDGE, AND FROZEN FOOD IN THECUPBOARD !!! LOL ! BUT MY SON GETS MAD WHEN I CANT REMEMBER HIS NAME!!!!IF THERES ANYWAY YA CAN MAKE IT TO ITALY.....GO !!!!!!!!!!! IT IS SUCH AWONDERFUL CHANCE,HON !!! JUST BE SURE YA PLAN WISELY !!! BEFORE THETRIP, TAKE IT AS EASY AS YA CAN !! AND FOR THE TRIP, PLAN LOTS OF RESTSTOPS !!!!! WOW !! THATS EXCITING, HON !! 8^)

[Guest guest]

DAVID... I'M NOT TO SMART AT THE MOMENT, HON !! (LOL !!!) BUT WHERE IN

THE UK DO YA LIVE ??!! I'M DRAWING A BLANK ON WHAT ALL THE UK IS !!!!!

GEESH !!! LOL !

MY HUBBYS MOMS FAMILY IS FROM ITALY, BUT I FORGET WHERE !!! BUT I

COULDNT UNDERSTAND HIS GRAM AT ALL !!! SHE SPOKE VERY LITTLE ENGLISH !!!

8^)

HI,

I'VE BEEN TO ITALY TWICE BEFORE, AND HAD A GREAT TIME.

THE ARREA WE STAY IN WHERE MY FAMILY LIVE IS RIGHT IN THE HEEL OF ITALY, THERE ARE NOT MANY FOREAIGN TOURISTS THERE IF ANY.

BUT IT IS A BEAUTIFUL PLACE, THE PEOPLE ARE SO WARM AND LOVING, EVEN THOSE YOU'VE NEVER MET!

I KNOW I COULDN'T GO TO STAY WHILE I'M STILL IN MY WHEELCHAIR, BUT FINGERS CROSSED.

THIS WEEK I'VE BEEN IN BED, AND UNABLE TO GO ANYWHERE.

MANAGED TO GET OUT FOR FRESH AIR EARLIER TODAY, AND HAD TO VISIT THE BANK, I DIDN'T REALISE THE TIME, AND THEY WERE CLOSED AT 4.30PM WHEN I GOT THERE.

WILL HAVE TO GO AGAIN IN A FEW DAYS.

ANYWAY

HAVE A GOOD WEEKEND.

DAVID

- X -

Re: DAVID

OH, DAVID !!! THE 'FOG' IS THE PITS, HON !!!! BUT IT SURE CAN BE FUNNY!! LIKE WHEN I PUT LAUNDRY IN THE FRIDGE, AND FROZEN FOOD IN THECUPBOARD !!! LOL ! BUT MY SON GETS MAD WHEN I CANT REMEMBER HIS NAME!!!!IF THERES ANYWAY YA CAN MAKE IT TO ITALY.....GO !!!!!!!!!!! IT IS SUCH AWONDERFUL CHANCE,HON !!! JUST BE SURE YA PLAN WISELY !!! BEFORE THETRIP, TAKE IT AS EASY AS YA CAN !! AND FOR THE TRIP, PLAN LOTS OF RESTSTOPS !!!!! WOW !! THATS EXCITING, HON !! 8^)

[Guest guest]

DAVID,

WELCOME TO THE FAMILY, AND WELCOME TO THE CLUB. YOU MENTIONED THE WAY THE

DRS AND NURSES TREATED YOU AS IF THIS WERE ALL JUST FAKING OR SOMETHING, OR

IT WAS PSYCHOLOGICAL. I THINK EVERYONE HERE CAN RELATE.

AS FOR THE PART WHERE YOUR PSYCHOLOGIST SAYING THE VIET CONG SOLDIERS WOULD

KEEP ON FIGHTING, THAT IS BECAUSE MANY WERE TRAINED TO IGNORE PAIN, AND ALSO

MANY HAD LIVED HARD LIVES AND SO HAD LEARNED THEMSELVES TO IGNORE A CERTAIN

AMOUNT OF PAIN. AFTER 24 YEARS OF THIS I MYSELF CAN IGNORE PAIN THAT WOULD

MAKE MOST HEALTHY PEOPLE DROP TO THEIR KNEES, AS CAN MANY HERE, SIMPLY

BECAUSE WE HAVE NO CHOICE BECAUSE WE ARE TOLD OUR SUFFERING IS NOT REAL AND

WE ARE EXPECTED TO BEHAVE AS IF IT DIDN'T EXIST. I MEAN, THERE ARE PEOPLE

OUT THERE TRAINED TO REDUCE THEIR HEART RATE TO ALMOST STOPPING, OR WHO CAN

MAKE THEIR BLOOD CLOT TO STOP A WOUND BLEEDING WITH THE POWER OF THEIR

MINDS. BUT HEY, MOST OF US OUT HERE DON'T HAVE THAT TRAINING. YOU SHOULD

HAVE ASKED YOUR DR TO PROVE IT -- " HEY, SHOOT YOURSELF IN THE FOOT, DOC, AND

SHOW ME WHAT YOU MEAN. PUT YOUR PAIN WHERE YOUR MOUTH IS DOC, OR STOP

SPOUTING NONSENSE. "

SORRY FOR THE RANT -- MY LOVE OF DRS MUST BE PRETTY APARENT BY NOW. HEY, I

HAVE ISSUES.

THE TRUTH IS, THE MEDICAL PROFESSION HAS DONE THIS TO EVERY DISEASE OUT

THERE -- CANCER USED TO BE IN PEOPLE'S HEADS, AND MS -- GEE, SOME DRS STILL

ACT LIKE MS IS A CON EVEN WHEN THEIR ARE TESTS THAT ABSOLUTELY PROVE A

PERSON HAS IT. SO WHEN DRS SAY SOMETHING STUPID (AND THEY COME UP WITH SOME

LULUS), JUST GRIN AND REMEMBER, YOU PROBABLY KNOW MORE ABOUT HEALTH THAN

THEY DO. AND IF YOU DOON'T YET, YOU WILL. I THINK THERE ARE A LOT OF PEOPLE

HERE WHO DESERVE PH.Ds BECAUSE OF ALL WE HAVE HAD TO LEARN OUT OF PLAIN

SELF-PRESERVATION.

AS FOR THE PHYSIO WORKING BEFORE AND NOT WORKING NOW -- YOU WILL FIND THAT.

WHAT USED TO WORK FOR ME WHEN I HAD THIS IN REMISSION TWICE BEFORE, DOESN'T

WORK NOW. THESE DDS ARE ALWAYS CHANGING, YOUR SYMPTOMS CAN CHANGE FROM HOUR

TO HOUR, LET ALONE OVER YEARS. SOME SYMPTOMS YOU KEEP ALWAYS, OTHERS COME

AND GO, AND SOME POUNCE ON YOUR FROM OUT OF THE BLUE. SO IF ANYTHING

HAPPENS, ASK HERE, AND WE CAN PRETTY MUCH TELL YOU HOW MANY OTHERS HAVE IT

AND IF IT IS THESE DDS, OR SOME OF THE OTHER CONDITIONS WE DEVELOPE FROM

THESE DDS. DRS OFTEN SAY THE THINGS WE GO THROUGH HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE

CFIDS OR FIBRO, THEN WE ASK HERE AND FIND OUT IT DOES. THAT CERTAINLY HAS

SAVED ME FROM PANIC A TIME-OR-2 (OR 10).

{{{GENTLE HUGS}}}

DONI-MARIE

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HI DONI MARIE,

THANKS FOR THE WELCOME,

IN A WAY IT'S SAD THAT SO MANY OF US CAN RELATE TO EACH OTHER RE: OUR BAD

EXPERIENCES WITH DOCTORS,

BECAUSE OF COURSE IT MEANS WE'VE ALL SEEN BAD DOCTORS,

I WAS ASKED A FEW WEEKS AGO WHAT JOB I WOULD LIKE IN THE FUTURE, AND I SAID

I DIDN'T KNOW BUT THE JOB OF DOCTOR APPEALED TO ME, WHEN ASKED WHY I SAID

I'VE MET TENS OF BAD DOCTORS AND FEW GOOD ONES, I KNOW THE DIFFERENCE AND

BELIEVE I CAN BE ONE OF THE GOOD ONES.

GOT TO GO NOW!

DAVID

DAVID

> DAVID,

> WELCOME TO THE FAMILY, AND WELCOME TO THE CLUB. YOU MENTIONED THE WAY THE

> DRS AND NURSES TREATED YOU AS IF THIS WERE ALL JUST FAKING OR SOMETHING,

OR

> IT WAS PSYCHOLOGICAL. I THINK EVERYONE HERE CAN RELATE.

>

> AS FOR THE PART WHERE YOUR PSYCHOLOGIST SAYING THE VIET CONG SOLDIERS

WOULD

> KEEP ON FIGHTING, THAT IS BECAUSE MANY WERE TRAINED TO IGNORE PAIN, AND

ALSO

> MANY HAD LIVED HARD LIVES AND SO HAD LEARNED THEMSELVES TO IGNORE A

CERTAIN

> AMOUNT OF PAIN. AFTER 24 YEARS OF THIS I MYSELF CAN IGNORE PAIN THAT WOULD

> MAKE MOST HEALTHY PEOPLE DROP TO THEIR KNEES, AS CAN MANY HERE, SIMPLY

> BECAUSE WE HAVE NO CHOICE BECAUSE WE ARE TOLD OUR SUFFERING IS NOT REAL

AND

> WE ARE EXPECTED TO BEHAVE AS IF IT DIDN'T EXIST. I MEAN, THERE ARE PEOPLE

> OUT THERE TRAINED TO REDUCE THEIR HEART RATE TO ALMOST STOPPING, OR WHO

CAN

> MAKE THEIR BLOOD CLOT TO STOP A WOUND BLEEDING WITH THE POWER OF THEIR

> MINDS. BUT HEY, MOST OF US OUT HERE DON'T HAVE THAT TRAINING. YOU SHOULD

> HAVE ASKED YOUR DR TO PROVE IT -- " HEY, SHOOT YOURSELF IN THE FOOT, DOC,

AND

> SHOW ME WHAT YOU MEAN. PUT YOUR PAIN WHERE YOUR MOUTH IS DOC, OR STOP

> SPOUTING NONSENSE. "

>

> SORRY FOR THE RANT -- MY LOVE OF DRS MUST BE PRETTY APARENT BY NOW. HEY, I

> HAVE ISSUES.

>

> THE TRUTH IS, THE MEDICAL PROFESSION HAS DONE THIS TO EVERY DISEASE OUT

> THERE -- CANCER USED TO BE IN PEOPLE'S HEADS, AND MS -- GEE, SOME DRS

STILL

> ACT LIKE MS IS A CON EVEN WHEN THEIR ARE TESTS THAT ABSOLUTELY PROVE A

> PERSON HAS IT. SO WHEN DRS SAY SOMETHING STUPID (AND THEY COME UP WITH

SOME

> LULUS), JUST GRIN AND REMEMBER, YOU PROBABLY KNOW MORE ABOUT HEALTH THAN

> THEY DO. AND IF YOU DOON'T YET, YOU WILL. I THINK THERE ARE A LOT OF

PEOPLE

> HERE WHO DESERVE PH.Ds BECAUSE OF ALL WE HAVE HAD TO LEARN OUT OF PLAIN

> SELF-PRESERVATION.

>

> AS FOR THE PHYSIO WORKING BEFORE AND NOT WORKING NOW -- YOU WILL FIND

THAT.

> WHAT USED TO WORK FOR ME WHEN I HAD THIS IN REMISSION TWICE BEFORE,

DOESN'T

> WORK NOW. THESE DDS ARE ALWAYS CHANGING, YOUR SYMPTOMS CAN CHANGE FROM

HOUR

> TO HOUR, LET ALONE OVER YEARS. SOME SYMPTOMS YOU KEEP ALWAYS, OTHERS COME

> AND GO, AND SOME POUNCE ON YOUR FROM OUT OF THE BLUE. SO IF ANYTHING

> HAPPENS, ASK HERE, AND WE CAN PRETTY MUCH TELL YOU HOW MANY OTHERS HAVE IT

> AND IF IT IS THESE DDS, OR SOME OF THE OTHER CONDITIONS WE DEVELOPE FROM

> THESE DDS. DRS OFTEN SAY THE THINGS WE GO THROUGH HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH

THE

> CFIDS OR FIBRO, THEN WE ASK HERE AND FIND OUT IT DOES. THAT CERTAINLY HAS

> SAVED ME FROM PANIC A TIME-OR-2 (OR 10).

>

> {{{GENTLE HUGS}}}

> DONI-MARIE

>

> _________________________________________________________________

> Join the world's largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail.

> http://www.hotmail.com

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

DAVID.... IF YOU WANT TO BE A DOC, HON..... GO FOR IT !!!!!!! DONT LET

ANYONE TELL YA YA CANT !!!! 8^)

HI DONI MARIE,

THANKS FOR THE WELCOME,

IN A WAY IT'S SAD THAT SO MANY OF US CAN RELATE TO EACH OTHER RE: OUR BAD

EXPERIENCES WITH DOCTORS,

BECAUSE OF COURSE IT MEANS WE'VE ALL SEEN BAD DOCTORS,

I WAS ASKED A FEW WEEKS AGO WHAT JOB I WOULD LIKE IN THE FUTURE, AND I SAID

I DIDN'T KNOW BUT THE JOB OF DOCTOR APPEALED TO ME, WHEN ASKED WHY I SAID

I'VE MET TENS OF BAD DOCTORS AND FEW GOOD ONES, I KNOW THE DIFFERENCE AND

BELIEVE I CAN BE ONE OF THE GOOD ONES.

GOT TO GO NOW!

DAVID

DAVID

> DAVID,

> WELCOME TO THE FAMILY, AND WELCOME TO THE CLUB. YOU MENTIONED THE WAY THE

> DRS AND NURSES TREATED YOU AS IF THIS WERE ALL JUST FAKING OR SOMETHING,

OR

> IT WAS PSYCHOLOGICAL. I THINK EVERYONE HERE CAN RELATE.

>

> AS FOR THE PART WHERE YOUR PSYCHOLOGIST SAYING THE VIET CONG SOLDIERS

WOULD

> KEEP ON FIGHTING, THAT IS BECAUSE MANY WERE TRAINED TO IGNORE PAIN, AND

ALSO

> MANY HAD LIVED HARD LIVES AND SO HAD LEARNED THEMSELVES TO IGNORE A

CERTAIN

> AMOUNT OF PAIN. AFTER 24 YEARS OF THIS I MYSELF CAN IGNORE PAIN THAT WOULD

> MAKE MOST HEALTHY PEOPLE DROP TO THEIR KNEES, AS CAN MANY HERE, SIMPLY

> BECAUSE WE HAVE NO CHOICE BECAUSE WE ARE TOLD OUR SUFFERING IS NOT REAL

AND

> WE ARE EXPECTED TO BEHAVE AS IF IT DIDN'T EXIST. I MEAN, THERE ARE PEOPLE

> OUT THERE TRAINED TO REDUCE THEIR HEART RATE TO ALMOST STOPPING, OR WHO

CAN

> MAKE THEIR BLOOD CLOT TO STOP A WOUND BLEEDING WITH THE POWER OF THEIR

> MINDS. BUT HEY, MOST OF US OUT HERE DON'T HAVE THAT TRAINING. YOU SHOULD

> HAVE ASKED YOUR DR TO PROVE IT -- " HEY, SHOOT YOURSELF IN THE FOOT, DOC,

AND

> SHOW ME WHAT YOU MEAN. PUT YOUR PAIN WHERE YOUR MOUTH IS DOC, OR STOP

> SPOUTING NONSENSE. "

>

> SORRY FOR THE RANT -- MY LOVE OF DRS MUST BE PRETTY APARENT BY NOW. HEY, I

> HAVE ISSUES.

>

> THE TRUTH IS, THE MEDICAL PROFESSION HAS DONE THIS TO EVERY DISEASE OUT

> THERE -- CANCER USED TO BE IN PEOPLE'S HEADS, AND MS -- GEE, SOME DRS

STILL

> ACT LIKE MS IS A CON EVEN WHEN THEIR ARE TESTS THAT ABSOLUTELY PROVE A

> PERSON HAS IT. SO WHEN DRS SAY SOMETHING STUPID (AND THEY COME UP WITH

SOME

> LULUS), JUST GRIN AND REMEMBER, YOU PROBABLY KNOW MORE ABOUT HEALTH THAN

> THEY DO. AND IF YOU DOON'T YET, YOU WILL. I THINK THERE ARE A LOT OF

PEOPLE

> HERE WHO DESERVE PH.Ds BECAUSE OF ALL WE HAVE HAD TO LEARN OUT OF PLAIN

> SELF-PRESERVATION.

>

> AS FOR THE PHYSIO WORKING BEFORE AND NOT WORKING NOW -- YOU WILL FIND

THAT.

> WHAT USED TO WORK FOR ME WHEN I HAD THIS IN REMISSION TWICE BEFORE,

DOESN'T

> WORK NOW. THESE DDS ARE ALWAYS CHANGING, YOUR SYMPTOMS CAN CHANGE FROM

HOUR

> TO HOUR, LET ALONE OVER YEARS. SOME SYMPTOMS YOU KEEP ALWAYS, OTHERS COME

> AND GO, AND SOME POUNCE ON YOUR FROM OUT OF THE BLUE. SO IF ANYTHING

> HAPPENS, ASK HERE, AND WE CAN PRETTY MUCH TELL YOU HOW MANY OTHERS HAVE IT

> AND IF IT IS THESE DDS, OR SOME OF THE OTHER CONDITIONS WE DEVELOPE FROM

> THESE DDS. DRS OFTEN SAY THE THINGS WE GO THROUGH HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH

THE

> CFIDS OR FIBRO, THEN WE ASK HERE AND FIND OUT IT DOES. THAT CERTAINLY HAS

> SAVED ME FROM PANIC A TIME-OR-2 (OR 10).

>

> {{{GENTLE HUGS}}}

> DONI-MARIE

>

> _________________________________________________________________

> Join the world's largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail.

> http://www.hotmail.com

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

THANKS BUT NOT 100% SURE YET.

BY THE WAY WHAT IS YOUR NAME?

8^) ?

DAVID

Re: DAVID

DAVID.... IF YOU WANT TO BE A DOC, HON..... GO FOR IT !!!!!!! DONT LETANYONE TELL YA YA CANT !!!! 8^)

[Guest guest]

THE NAMES KAREN, SWEETIE !!! SORRY, THOUGHT I TOLD YA !! I JUST ALWAYS

USE MY 8^) , HON !!!!! LOL ! 8^)

THANKS BUT NOT 100% SURE YET.

BY THE WAY WHAT IS YOUR NAME?

8^) ?

DAVID

Re: DAVID

DAVID.... IF YOU WANT TO BE A DOC, HON..... GO FOR IT !!!!!!! DONT LETANYONE TELL YA YA CANT !!!! 8^)