Guest guest Posted June 21, 1998 Report Share Posted June 21, 1998 I think it was on a.r.from-12-steps (when that NG could still be read) or it may be on the RR page that someone posted the text in the T & T of Tradition 6 - in which the author wryly muses on how they had ambitions to spread the program into " criminality, dope addiction " , create AA hospitals, and how AA members would tell judges who would get sent to AA and who to jail, etc. (I suspect the text is at least in part mendacious - it implies that these ambitions were the result of AA success, but the OGM had those ambitions before anyone could claim any effectiveness in overcoming alcoholism, let alone anything else, and hence did *not* start as a result of AA growth.) The poster suggested that all these ambitions have in fact happened. (Now almost everybody gets sent to AA even if they are sent to jail - at least if they want to get out). The explicit AA name isnt used - they have become NA, or become " independent " rehabs where the entire counselling/therapeutic staff belong to one *A group or another. The 12SP has become so safe, " even from " , that like the plant in " Little Shop of Horrors " it is growing everywhere and devouring everyone in sight. Just as Xtianity, or at least montheism, is so well-established in our culture that Boy Scouts recite prayers, the 12SP is becoming completely endemic in US life, and in the West generally. The virus has become the mitochondria of the American cultural cell. Let us hope it is not cancerous. Pete ---------------------- Cool Briton PERSONALITY-DISORDERS LIST: http://rdz.acor.org/athenaeum/lists.phtml?personality-disorders _____________________ " Every great scientist is part B.F. Skinner and part P.T. Barnum " - Bart Simpson's science teacher ----------------------------------------------------------- Post your messages to addict-l@... ----------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe put- unsubscribe addict-L -in the body of a message to: listserv@... ----------------------------------------------------------- List archives are at http://listserv.kent.edu/archives/addict-l.html ----------------------------------------------------------- Send requests for help to addict-l-request@... ----------------------------------------------------------- --- End Forwarded Message --- Pete ---------------------- Cool Briton PERSONALITY-DISORDERS LIST: http://rdz.acor.org/athenaeum/lists.phtml?personality-disorders _____________________ " Every great scientist is part B.F. Skinner and part P.T. Barnum " - Bart Simpson's science teacher ---- Read this list on the Web at http://www.FindMail.com/list/12-step-free/ To unsubscribe, email to 12-step-free-unsubscribe@... To subscribe, email to 12-step-free-subscribe@... -- Start a FREE E-Mail List at http://makelist.com ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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