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Hi

I haven't noticed this in DD, but I personally am extremely light sensitive.

Have been

ever since I had drops in my eyes back in the 60's. Wish I could afford the

photochromic process for my plastic lenses!

Margaret

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My little guy has been sensitive to light since his autism onset. Lots of

sneezing and actually acting like the sun hurt his eyes. He would hide his

head, cry if we were in the sun and immediately head for shade when he

could. He is still this way to some extent but it seems to be better.

I have had my dr. check his eyes several times to make sure they are

retracting properly and everything seems to be okay. One more mystery!!

>From: " Todd Pilger " <tntpilger@...>

>Reply-

>< >

>Subject: [ ] vision; light sensitivity

>Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2001 12:04:38 -0700

>

>Moria you mentioned light sensitivity and I was wondering if anyone else

>noticed a change in light sensitivity in their children who had late onset

>autism?? About the same time things went downhill for my son, he also

>began to sneeze every time we entered a sunlit area or went outside

>etc...sun sneezes so to speak..every single time basically. Wondering if

>this could be mercury related or not???? thank you for your thoughts,

> :)

>

>

>

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I'm chelating myself and I am having less sunlight sensitivity.

Carmen

Todd Pilger wrote:

> Moria you mentioned light sensitivity and I was wondering if anyone

> else noticed a change in light sensitivity in their children who had

> late onset autism?? About the same time things went downhill for my

> son, he also began to sneeze every time we entered a sunlit area or

> went outside etc...sun sneezes so to speak..every single time

> basically. Wondering if this could be mercury related or not????

> thank you for your thoughts, :)

>

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My father always did 3 sunlight sneezes at a time until he had emergency

quintuple bypass and pacesmaker surgery. Now he only sneezes twice. We joke

that they removed a sneeze.

S

On Tue, 25 September 2001, Scheible wrote:

>

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> <tt>

> ,<BR>

> & nbsp; & nbsp; & nbsp; I'm chelating myself and I am having less sunlight

sensitivity.<BR>

> <BR>

> Carmen<BR>

> <BR>

> Todd Pilger wrote:<BR>

> <BR>

> & gt; Moria you mentioned light sensitivity and I was wondering if anyone<BR>

> & gt; else noticed a change in light sensitivity in their children who had<BR>

> & gt; late onset autism?? & nbsp; About the same time things went downhill for

my<BR>

> & gt; son, he also began to sneeze every time we entered a sunlit area or<BR>

> & gt; went outside etc...sun sneezes so to speak..every single time<BR>

> & gt; basically. & nbsp; Wondering if this could be mercury related or

not????<BR>

> & gt; thank you for your thoughts, :)<BR>

> & gt;<BR>

> <BR>

> <BR>

>

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I'm ok w/ sunlight but sensitive to artificial light.

S

On Tue, 25 September 2001, " Lora Carpenter " wrote:

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> <html><body>

> <tt>

> My little guy has been sensitive to light since his autism onset. & nbsp; Lots

of <BR>

> sneezing and actually acting like the sun hurt his eyes. & nbsp; He would hide

his <BR>

> head, cry if we were in the sun and immediately head for shade when he <BR>

> could. & nbsp; He is still this way to some extent but it seems to be

better.<BR>

> <BR>

> I have had my dr. check his eyes several times to make sure they are <BR>

> retracting properly and everything seems to be okay. & nbsp; One more

mystery!!<BR>

> <BR>

> <BR>

> & gt;From: & quot;Todd Pilger & quot; & lt;tntpilger@... & gt;<BR>

> & gt;Reply- <BR>

> & gt; & lt; & gt;<BR>

> & gt;Subject: [ ] vision; light sensitivity<BR>

> & gt;Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2001 12:04:38 -0700<BR>

> & gt;<BR>

> & gt;Moria you mentioned light sensitivity and I was wondering if anyone else

<BR>

> & gt;noticed a change in light sensitivity in their children who had late onset

<BR>

> & gt;autism?? & nbsp; About the same time things went downhill for my son, he

also <BR>

> & gt;began to sneeze every time we entered a sunlit area or went outside <BR>

> & gt;etc...sun sneezes so to speak..every single time basically. & nbsp;

Wondering if <BR>

> & gt;this could be mercury related or not???? & nbsp; thank you for your

thoughts, <BR>

> & gt; :)<BR>

> & gt;<BR>

> & gt;<BR>

> & gt;

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>Moria you mentioned light sensitivity and I was wondering if anyone else

noticed a change in light sensitivity in their children who had late onset

autism?? About the same time things went downhill for my son, he also

began to sneeze every time we entered a sunlit area or went outside

etc...sun sneezes so to speak..every single time basically. Wondering if

this could be mercury related or not???? thank you for your thoughts,

:)

Hi , and others-- this is really an answer to a couple of

different posts about LIGHT SENSITIVITY:

1. mercury poisoning does cause light sensitivity (at least

it can). Quoting Andy's book, page 26 (this is in a list of

many effects of merc poisoning):

" Victims may become photophobic and find bright light uncomfortable

and unpleasant. There may be visual disturbances, including

alterations in color perception leading to reduced sensitivity

to the color red, or color blindness. The ability to focus on

distant objects may be sporatically impaired. Peripheral vision

may be reduced in the most severe cases. "

2. while we are on the subject, in addition to the light

issue, Andy also has this to say about focusing (p. 28):

" The ability to focus the eyes and to control convergence -- the

ability to bring both eyes to bear on nearby objects so as to

see one of them with depth perception rather than to have

double vision. Eventually the muscles that move the eye become

weak and the victim turns their head to see up, down, or

side to side instead of turning the eyes. "

2. , my light sensitivity is not about sneezing. I don't

know if the sneezy thing is connected, it may be? I knew someone

who had done that all his life, and thought it " genetic " .

My light sensitivity is more like light seems brighter to

me than to most others--- so bright light " hurts " .

3. Light sensitivity can be reduced a lot by doing an

eye " exercise " called " sunning " for a minute or so a day.

It is funny to call it an exercise though, as it consist

of sitting with eyes closed in direct sunlight (so the

light is falling directly onto your eyelids) and that's it.

Avoid the strongest light -- use morning or late afternoon

sunlight (midday might be okay in winter). This is also

a very pleasant thing to do.

best,

Moria

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In a message dated 9/26/01 2:20:51 PM Pacific Daylight Time,

pinkdisease@... writes:

> Have you ever checked for thimerasol in either or both of your eye drops and

> the contact lenses solutions?

>

I don't wear contact lenses. The eye drops I was referring to were put in

during

a routine eye test when I was aged about eight, so I'm pretty sure there was

thimerasol in those. BTW I thought they no longer used thimerasol in contact

lens solutions? I can date my extreme sensitivity to light to those drops!

Margaret

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Margaret,

Re the use of contact lenses:

Have you ever checked for thimerasol in either or both of your eye drops and the

contact lenses solutions?

Just a thought.

Heatehr Pink Disease Support Group Australia.

Hi

I haven't noticed this in DD, but I personally am extremely light sensitive.

Have been

ever since I had drops in my eyes back in the 60's. Wish I could afford the

photochromic process for my plastic lenses!

Margaret

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Dear Lora,

Light sensivity (photophobia) is one of the more obvious signs/and or symptoms

of mercury posioning/sensivity! I was poisoned by mercury 52 years ago and I am

as photophobic as ever! The scarring on my retinas is evidence (as stated by my

opthalmologist) of the original mercury damage, but today I wear tinted glasses

even inside buildings. Some lighting is extreme in some buildings! I have bulbs

of a lower wattage than most other folk in my light sockets, and am always

turning lights off in rooms. My dear long suffering husband, Allan, goes around

constantly turning lights on and I turn them off! Mercury effects ALL the

sensory facilities. I am super sensitive to light, touch, sound, etc.

Regards, Pink Disease Support Group Australia.

My little guy has been sensitive to light since his autism onset. Lots of

sneezing and actually acting like the sun hurt his eyes. He would hide his

head, cry if we were in the sun and immediately head for shade when he

could. He is still this way to some extent but it seems to be better.

I have had my dr. check his eyes several times to make sure they are

retracting properly and everything seems to be okay. One more mystery!!

>From: " Todd Pilger " <tntpilger@...>

>Reply-

>< >

>Subject: [ ] vision; light sensitivity

>Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2001 12:04:38 -0700

>

>Moria you mentioned light sensitivity and I was wondering if anyone else

>noticed a change in light sensitivity in their children who had late onset

>autism?? About the same time things went downhill for my son, he also

>began to sneeze every time we entered a sunlit area or went outside

>etc...sun sneezes so to speak..every single time basically. Wondering if

>this could be mercury related or not???? thank you for your thoughts,

> :)

>

>

>

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would shining a torch on my son's eyelids have the same effect?[while he is

sleeping]

Re: [ ] vision; light sensitivity

>Moria you mentioned light sensitivity and I was wondering if anyone else

noticed a change in light sensitivity in their children who had late onset

autism?? About the same time things went downhill for my son, he also

began to sneeze every time we entered a sunlit area or went outside

etc...sun sneezes so to speak..every single time basically. Wondering if

this could be mercury related or not???? thank you for your thoughts,

:)

Hi , and others-- this is really an answer to a couple of

different posts about LIGHT SENSITIVITY:

1. mercury poisoning does cause light sensitivity (at least

it can). Quoting Andy's book, page 26 (this is in a list of

many effects of merc poisoning):

" Victims may become photophobic and find bright light uncomfortable

and unpleasant. There may be visual disturbances, including

alterations in color perception leading to reduced sensitivity

to the color red, or color blindness. The ability to focus on

distant objects may be sporatically impaired. Peripheral vision

may be reduced in the most severe cases. "

2. while we are on the subject, in addition to the light

issue, Andy also has this to say about focusing (p. 28):

" The ability to focus the eyes and to control convergence -- the

ability to bring both eyes to bear on nearby objects so as to

see one of them with depth perception rather than to have

double vision. Eventually the muscles that move the eye become

weak and the victim turns their head to see up, down, or

side to side instead of turning the eyes. "

2. , my light sensitivity is not about sneezing. I don't

know if the sneezy thing is connected, it may be? I knew someone

who had done that all his life, and thought it " genetic " .

My light sensitivity is more like light seems brighter to

me than to most others--- so bright light " hurts " .

3. Light sensitivity can be reduced a lot by doing an

eye " exercise " called " sunning " for a minute or so a day.

It is funny to call it an exercise though, as it consist

of sitting with eyes closed in direct sunlight (so the

light is falling directly onto your eyelids) and that's it.

Avoid the strongest light -- use morning or late afternoon

sunlight (midday might be okay in winter). This is also

a very pleasant thing to do.

best,

Moria

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I hope I'm not too late to respond to this. I am one of those that sneezes

every time I walk out into bright sunlight. In my case, I don't think it has

anything to do with autism or mercury poisoning. I read somewhere that people

can have this happen because their optic nerve is situated very close to

whatever it is that makes a person sneeze, so the sneeze just happens as a

result of a little bit of misplaced stimulation of the optic nerve.

>>Moria you mentioned light sensitivity and I was wondering if anyone else

noticed a change in light sensitivity in their children who had late onset

autism?? About the same time things went downhill for my son, he also began to

sneeze every time we entered a sunlit area or went outside etc...sun sneezes so

to speak..every single time basically. Wondering if this could be mercury

related or not???? thank you for your thoughts, :)>>

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No, it wouldn't, and I think it is probably a bad idea.

Sunlight is different from other light. And looking at

a light with eyes closed while awake I'm sure must be

different that while asleep. You might try " sunning "

yourself a few times, to see what it is like and see

if you think you could teach it to your son by

" demonstration " or some other means.

At 11:48 PM 9/26/2001 +0100, you wrote:

>would shining a torch on my son's eyelids have the same effect?[while he

is sleeping]

> 3. Light sensitivity can be reduced a lot by doing an

> eye " exercise " called " sunning " for a minute or so a day.

> It is funny to call it an exercise though, as it consist

> of sitting with eyes closed in direct sunlight (so the

> light is falling directly onto your eyelids) and that's it.

> Avoid the strongest light -- use morning or late afternoon

> sunlight (midday might be okay in winter). This is also

> a very pleasant thing to do.

>

> best,

> Moria

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Hi Tracey,

My son developed severe hypersensitivity in all areas including light

sensitivity - I feel fairly sure that it was mercury related. My son has

been diagnosed as Asperger's. He did not become symptomatic until 18

months - he has never really fit the criteria for Asperger's very well (the

picture was so much more complicated and severe than the AS diagnostic

criteria covered) - mercury poisoning really describes him better than any

other " psychiatric " label. We are on our 7th round of chelation and I am

beginning to see some very positive changes (we also recently changed

medication and started using enzymes so it is a bit unclear what has caused

these positive changes but if they continue I think I'll have my answer).

Pat

>Moria you mentioned light sensitivity and I was wondering if anyone else

>noticed a change in light sensitivity in their children who had late onset

>autism?? About the same time things went downhill for my son, he also

>began to sneeze every time we entered a sunlit area or went outside

>etc...sun sneezes so to speak..every single time basically. Wondering if

>this could be mercury related or not???? thank you for your thoughts,

>

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Margaret,

You would have no way of checking the eye drops from when you were 8 years of

age as mecury content I guess. I went to have a glaucoma test recently and my

opthalmologist said " I'll just check for thiomersal (as it is called here)

content first " (being very aware of my past history!) and sure enough! There it

was! So she ordered in a mercury free brand and will be checking my eyes now on

her next call to our small country town in 2 weeks' time. I just check EVERTHING

now.

My chemist friend actually gave me a bottle of saline solution (for contact

lenses) TODAY that has in big letters across it " THIOMERSAL FREE " which she

thought I'd like to keep " for my records'. It is distributed by CIBA Vision and

is made in Canada. I don't have contact lenses of course, but some folk COULD be

using a solution with thiomersal in and not realize it.

Thanks for answering my mail. Thiele. Australia

In a message dated 9/26/01 2:20:51 PM Pacific Daylight Time,

pinkdisease@... writes:

> Have you ever checked for thimerasol in either or both of your eye drops and

> the contact lenses solutions?

>

I don't wear contact lenses. The eye drops I was referring to were put in

during

a routine eye test when I was aged about eight, so I'm pretty sure there was

thimerasol in those. BTW I thought they no longer used thimerasol in contact

lens solutions? I can date my extreme sensitivity to light to those drops!

Margaret

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Todd, Not only was my son light sensitive, he had constantly dilated pupils.

They were huge, even in the brightest of light. No sneezing though. I think

it must be mercury related because it has improved with chelation and also

with secretin. Paige

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> Todd, Not only was my son light sensitive, he had constantly dilated

pupils.

> They were huge, even in the brightest of light.

Mydriasis (big pupils) is one of the signs of mercury poisoning. It

goes along with accomodative insufficiency (not being able to focus at

all distances) and convergence insufficiency (not being able to point

both eyes at things close up, which requires turning them in a bit).

Andy

> No sneezing though. I think

> it must be mercury related because it has improved with chelation

and also

> with secretin.

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