Re: education is a good thing

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In a message dated 6/3/01 10:20:01 AM Pacific Daylight Time,

lverrett@... writes:

> The second thing concerns death and dying. One of the students in the class

> is very knowledgeable on hospice care. What she said to us was something I

> did not know but makes sense to me. She told us that most end stage people

> will fight to stay alive until a certain event or milestone has been

> reached. Such as a graduation, birth of a baby etc., and that allot of

> people do not want to die with someone in the room with them, rather they

> wait until no one is in the same room then they die in peace.

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I've known of people with terminal illnesses who waited to die until

receiving reassurance that it was okay. In one case, a woman I know sat

alone with her father and told him that they would miss him, but that they

understood why he had to go and that they knew that they had to let him go.

In another case, a woman sat alone with her father and reassured him that he

didn't need to worry about what would happen to his wife after his death

because his children would make sure that their mother was cared for. In

both cases, the men's diseases had progressed to the point where they didn't

seem to be aware of what was going on around them, in both cases, they seemed

to be struggling to stay alive, and in both cases, they quit struggling and

died within hours of receiving the reassurance that they apparently needed.

I've heard of this kind of thing happening on a number of other occasions.

Maxine Pate

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Good Point, A little hard work never hurt anybody, neither did a little

education.

My understanding with your first point, is that a MD might allow anyone to

do a variety of things, but the regulatory agencies in the occupation you

are in may limit what you can actually do. (And of course employer policies)

Now the hard part for me is exactly defining what those boundries are.

I too am interested in what the other experts on here think. (someone once

said everyone here is an expert at something right?)

See Ya

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Lawrence,

> You can and will learn things and thoughts that you may never have a need

of in your life but, you are

> always learning new things and that is a good thing.

Very well said. Too many times I have heard folks make the statement " when I

get my education " . To me this is a very short-sighted way of looking at

life. Education is an ongoing process, not something that has an end. So

long as one lives one continuers to learn.

> IF by state law a emt cannot start a IV can his medical director give the

emt to authority to do so?

Regarding this question, it is my understanding that your medical director

can teach and authorize most any procedure to whomever he chooses. Offshore

paramedics are trained to insert chest tubes, suture, and insert Foley

catheters under standing orders. Under direct medical control I have been

directed to reduce dislocations.

Regards,

Donn

education is a good thing

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FYI

On Harvey this week a woman graduated from college wiht a BA in

Education on her birthday she was 100. She expects to get her MAsters but

her 104th birthday.

Also on Harvey this week a study showing individuals with continuing

education lived a better and longer life.

Ed Walsh LP

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> Date: Sun, 3 Jun 2001 14:07:02 -0500

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> FYI

> On Harvey this week a woman graduated from college wiht a BA in

> Education on her birthday she was 100. She expects to get her MAsters but

> her 104th birthday.

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> Also on Harvey this week a study showing individuals with continuing

> education lived a better and longer life.

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> Ed Walsh LP

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Could she have applied for a Great-Grandfather clause to get her degree?

Just curious,

Lance Villers