Re: Anyone have experience with selenium?

[Guest guest]

Dear Marty,

I am sorry I cannot say much about whether selenium is

a chelator other than " I don't think so " . But Andy

recently talked about it being useful, as, I think,

a protective thing against current mercury exposure?

I printed out one of his notes about it, because I

wanted to look for selenium at the HFS.

Just went and found the piece of paper. From a post on

Sept 3rd 2001, Andy says (in part):

" Selenium binds more tightly to mercury than sulfur does.

You take 200 - 500 mcg of selenomethioine per day

(not selenite). This is an adult dose and should be weight

adjusted for children. The seleium captures and passivates

some free mercury. "

best,

Moria

At 08:20 AM 9/21/2001 -0400, you wrote:

>Hi All,

>

>We've been following the GFCF diet at home for our 4 1/2 yr old, dx'd with

>pdd-autism. But lately we've also been giving him sodium selenite,

>0.004%.... 4 drops/day in a little water first thing in the morning.

>

>This is an adjunct to 7 1/2 mg of zinc/day, to be reduced to 3 3/4 mg soon.

>Both the selenium and zinc are being given by a dermatologist, not for the

>autism but for a case of molloscum contagiosum that won't go away.

>

>According to the Dr.'s literature, the selenium sounds like it has a

>chelating action. We started the selenium last Saturday at one drop the

>first day, two drops the second, three the third, and four drops a day

>since then.

>

>I am now starting to see some signs of regression including - toe walking

>this morning, much stimming last night in bed, some aggressiveness as

>evidenced by the scratch marks on my face this morning from yesterday

>evening, and perhaps more 'silliness' in his behavior than usual.

>

>Since I've only lurked up to now I wonder if anyone can comment on this. Is

>selenium known to be a chelating agent? Are the symptoms I'm seeing good

>things? Any other comments or cautions for my wife and I?

>

>Thanks,

>

>Marty

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[Guest guest]

Dear Marty: I would think with this obvious a response to such a " relatively "

mild chelating agent, it would indicate that it might be time to do an

evaluation for heavy metal toxicity if you haven't already. Jaquelyn

Marty Landman wrote:

> Hi All,

>

> We've been following the GFCF diet at home for our 4 1/2 yr old, dx'd with

> pdd-autism. But lately we've also been giving him sodium selenite,

> 0.004%.... 4 drops/day in a little water first thing in the morning.

>

> This is an adjunct to 7 1/2 mg of zinc/day, to be reduced to 3 3/4 mg soon.

> Both the selenium and zinc are being given by a dermatologist, not for the

> autism but for a case of molloscum contagiosum that won't go away.

>

> According to the Dr.'s literature, the selenium sounds like it has a

> chelating action. We started the selenium last Saturday at one drop the

> first day, two drops the second, three the third, and four drops a day

> since then.

>

> I am now starting to see some signs of regression including - toe walking

> this morning, much stimming last night in bed, some aggressiveness as

> evidenced by the scratch marks on my face this morning from yesterday

> evening, and perhaps more 'silliness' in his behavior than usual.

>

> Since I've only lurked up to now I wonder if anyone can comment on this. Is

> selenium known to be a chelating agent? Are the symptoms I'm seeing good

> things? Any other comments or cautions for my wife and I?

>

> Thanks,

>

> Marty

>

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[Guest guest]

Marty,

We give our daughter selinium and never noticed any regressiong with it.

That's not to say it can't happen. I have heard stories of children really

regressing when taking amino acids and various other supplements. I have not

heard that selinium is a detoxifier of metals. I do know that when metals

are being pulled out it is very common to see some temporary regression.

Hope someone can give you more definate answers!

Jane

[Guest guest]

Selenite is not a chelating agent. Neither is selenomethionine. The

selenomethionine at least will bind mercury strongly however (and

mercury will remove the body's pool of the stuff due to this).

Selenite is often a problem for people. Try selenomethionine.

Selenite may affect sulfite oxidase, which is also affected by

mercury, and this double whammy could be causing what you see.

Andy

>

> > Hi All,

> >

> > We've been following the GFCF diet at home for our 4 1/2 yr old,

dx'd with

> > pdd-autism. But lately we've also been giving him sodium selenite,

> > 0.004%.... 4 drops/day in a little water first thing in the

morning.

> >

> > This is an adjunct to 7 1/2 mg of zinc/day, to be reduced to 3 3/4

mg soon.

> > Both the selenium and zinc are being given by a dermatologist,

not for the

> > autism but for a case of molloscum contagiosum that won't go away.

> >

> > According to the Dr.'s literature, the selenium sounds like it has

a

> > chelating action. We started the selenium last Saturday at one

drop the

> > first day, two drops the second, three the third, and four drops a

day

> > since then.

> >

> > I am now starting to see some signs of regression including - toe

walking

> > this morning, much stimming last night in bed, some aggressiveness

as

> > evidenced by the scratch marks on my face this morning from

yesterday

> > evening, and perhaps more 'silliness' in his behavior than usual.

> >

> > Since I've only lurked up to now I wonder if anyone can comment on

this. Is

> > selenium known to be a chelating agent? Are the symptoms I'm

seeing good

> > things? Any other comments or cautions for my wife and I?

> >

> > Thanks,

> >

> > Marty

> >

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[Guest guest]

Hi Andy,

I wasn't able to find Selenometionine at my health

food store. They only carried selenite.

Any ideas where I can order some?

Thanks,

Eleanor (mom to Jud, 3.9 yr ASD)

--- AndyCutler@... wrote:

> Selenite is not a chelating agent. Neither is

> selenomethionine. The

> selenomethionine at least will bind mercury strongly

> however (and

> mercury will remove the body's pool of the stuff due

> to this).

>

> Selenite is often a problem for people. Try

> selenomethionine.

> Selenite may affect sulfite oxidase, which is also

> affected by

> mercury, and this double whammy could be causing

> what you see.

>

> Andy

>

>

> >

> > > Hi All,

> > >

> > > We've been following the GFCF diet at home for

> our 4 1/2 yr old,

> dx'd with

> > > pdd-autism. But lately we've also been giving

> him sodium selenite,

> > > 0.004%.... 4 drops/day in a little water first

> thing in the

> morning.

> > >

> > > This is an adjunct to 7 1/2 mg of zinc/day, to

> be reduced to 3 3/4

> mg soon.

> > > Both the selenium and zinc are being given by a

> dermatologist,

> not for the

> > > autism but for a case of molloscum contagiosum

> that won't go away.

> > >

> > > According to the Dr.'s literature, the selenium

> sounds like it has

> a

> > > chelating action. We started the selenium last

> Saturday at one

> drop the

> > > first day, two drops the second, three the

> third, and four drops a

> day

> > > since then.

> > >

> > > I am now starting to see some signs of

> regression including - toe

> walking

> > > this morning, much stimming last night in bed,

> some aggressiveness

> as

> > > evidenced by the scratch marks on my face this

> morning from

> yesterday

> > > evening, and perhaps more 'silliness' in his

> behavior than usual.

> > >

> > > Since I've only lurked up to now I wonder if

> anyone can comment on

> this. Is

> > > selenium known to be a chelating agent? Are the

> symptoms I'm

> seeing good

> > > things? Any other comments or cautions for my

> wife and I?

> > >

> > > Thanks,

> > >

> > > Marty

> > >

> > > Face 2 Interface Web Solutions

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> > >

> > >

>

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Eleanor wrote:

>

> Hi Andy,

>

> I wasn't able to find Selenometionine at my health

> food store. They only carried selenite.

> Any ideas where I can order some?

>

> Thanks,

> Eleanor (mom to Jud, 3.9 yr ASD)

>

> --- AndyCutler@... wrote:

> > Selenite is not a chelating agent. Neither is

> > selenomethionine. The

> > selenomethionine at least will bind mercury strongly

> > however (and

> > mercury will remove the body's pool of the stuff due

> > to this).

> >

> > Selenite is often a problem for people. Try

> > selenomethionine.

> > Selenite may affect sulfite oxidase, which is also

> > affected by

> > mercury, and this double whammy could be causing

> > what you see.

> >

> > Andy

> >

> >

> > >

> > > > Hi All,

> > > >

> > > > We've been following the GFCF diet at home for

> > our 4 1/2 yr old,

> > dx'd with

> > > > pdd-autism. But lately we've also been giving

> > him sodium selenite,

> > > > 0.004%.... 4 drops/day in a little water first

> > thing in the

> > morning.

> > > >

> > > > This is an adjunct to 7 1/2 mg of zinc/day, to

> > be reduced to 3 3/4

> > mg soon.

> > > > Both the selenium and zinc are being given by a

> > dermatologist,

> > not for the

> > > > autism but for a case of molloscum contagiosum

> > that won't go away.

> > > >

> > > > According to the Dr.'s literature, the selenium

> > sounds like it has

> > a

> > > > chelating action. We started the selenium last

> > Saturday at one

> > drop the

> > > > first day, two drops the second, three the

> > third, and four drops a

> > day

> > > > since then.

> > > >

> > > > I am now starting to see some signs of

> > regression including - toe

> > walking

> > > > this morning, much stimming last night in bed,

> > some aggressiveness

> > as

> > > > evidenced by the scratch marks on my face this

> > morning from

> > yesterday

> > > > evening, and perhaps more 'silliness' in his

> > behavior than usual.

> > > >

> > > > Since I've only lurked up to now I wonder if

> > anyone can comment on

> > this. Is

> > > > selenium known to be a chelating agent? Are the

> > symptoms I'm

> > seeing good

> > > > things? Any other comments or cautions for my

> > wife and I?

> > > >

> > > > Thanks,

> > > >

> > > > Marty

> > > >

> > > > Face 2 Interface Web Solutions

> > > > Website Creation Made SIMPL

> > > > http://face2interface.com/Home/Demo.shtml

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> >

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> > > >

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> > >

> > > > Hi All,

> > > >

> > > > We've been following the GFCF diet at home for

> > our 4 1/2 yr old,

> > dx'd with

> > > > pdd-autism. But lately we've also been giving

> > him sodium selenite,

> > > > 0.004%.... 4 drops/day in a little water first

> > thing in the

> > morning.

> > > >

> > > > This is an adjunct to 7 1/2 mg of zinc/day, to

> > be reduced to 3 3/4

> > mg soon.

> > > > Both the selenium and zinc are being given by a

> > dermatologist,

> > not for the

> > > > autism but for a case of molloscum contagiosum

> > that won't go away.

> > > >

> > > > According to the Dr.'s literature, the selenium

> > sounds like it has

> > a

> > > > chelating action. We started the selenium last

> > Saturday at one

> > drop the

> > > > first day, two drops the second, three the

> > third, and four drops a

> > day

> > > > since then.

> > > >

> > > > I am now starting to see some signs of

> > regression including - toe

> > walking

> > > > this morning, much stimming last night in bed,

> > some aggressiveness

> > as

> > > > evidenced by the scratch marks on my face this

> > morning from

> > yesterday

> > > > evening, and perhaps more 'silliness' in his

> > behavior than usual.

> > > >

> > > > Since I've only lurked up to now I wonder if

> > anyone can comment on

> > this. Is

> > > > selenium known to be a chelating agent? Are the

> > symptoms I'm

> > seeing good

> > > > things? Any other comments or cautions for my

> > wife and I?

> > > >

> > > > Thanks,

> > > >

> > > > Marty

> > > >

> > > > Face 2 Interface Web Solutions

> > > > Website Creation Made SIMPL

> > > > http://face2interface.com/Home/Demo.shtml

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> >

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> > > >

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