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We have lots in common, Sue... here are some of them:

> 5a. Place you live now? Columbus, Georgia

My MIL lives in Macon!

> 6. Pets: None right now. I had an 18 year old miniature poodle named

> Valentine Pooh Dell and haven't yet recovered from losing her. I'll get

> another dog when I will no longer compare the new one to the old one.

I lost my doggie, Bandit, who was 9 in May... so I definitely understand the

mourning...

> 11. Worst feeling: Thinking about the time that I will have to deal

> with my mother's death (she's 81 now and in better health than I am).

This is also my #1 worst thought... she's on this list and just a teenager

at 66, but I can't stand the thought.

> 14. Are you male or female: female

Bingo

> 15. Height: 5ft 7in.

5'6 "

> 26. How many rings before you answer the phone? two (that's how long it

> takes Caller ID to register)

Bingo again

> 29. If you could get a tattoo what and where would it be? Wouldn't

> ever even consider it.

Bingo!

> 32. What is your favorite low-carb meal? Steak with my special steak

> butter and a salad. Mmmmmmmm!

Interested in what your special steak butter consists of...???

> 34. Other than weight, what is one thing you would change about

> yourself? I would change my temper

Me, too! Always ready for a fight!

> 37. What music do you listen to? soft rock mostly, but anything I can

> understand the words to.

I LOVE soft and classic rock... esp the Eagles, Chicago, Boston, etc...

> 42. What do you do on a rainy day? Take naps and enjoy listening to

> thunder.

This is also my favorite thing, listening to the rain, but we don't get much

thunder here in So. Cal.

Neat, huh?

Kari, So. Cal., #1 Laker Fan

~LOS ANGELES LAKERS~

1999-2000 NBA CHAMPS

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>How long have you been following the Atkins program?

I started Atkins in 1997...although I have to admit I am an on again off

again person...there is A LOT more activity on week days so get ready for a

deluge of mail!!! I hope you hop right in with questions, comments and

suggestions :)

JOya

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Thank you (:

I have to say I'm in the " which way do I go stage " . There are 3 options

that I'm studying and learning about and I think that all of them have good

points and can be utilized together. I'm trying to decide between

following:

Atkins

Sugar Busters

The Zone

I am diabetic and have Candida and a list of other things that would merely

bore you, wrong with me. I have had my stomach stapled (last March)

drastic, yes, but effective. I'm not sorry I did it, but I can put myself

back up to the over 300 pounds I was, or I can change my eating habits and

finish losing weight. I just want to find which is the best program - or if

I just want to take the best of all 3 and go from there.

Any thoughts - or experiences dealing with any of the above mentioned

programs to help me with my research will be most appreciated!

Candace

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Welcome Candace

I enjoyed reading your questionnaire. Please feel free to jump in and ask

questions or make comments. We are a friendly group.

Norma

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I would love to have a pond outside my door! If it were up to me we would

have a house full of animals - but someone has to clean up after them and I

don't have the energy!

How long have you been following the Atkins program?

There is quite a lot of activity on this list - I am really pleased to see

this!

Thanks again (:

Candace

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Hi Candace and welcome to the list! I too have a kitty and fish...and a

doggie...my fish are in a pond at the entrance to my house.

Joya in Honduras

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atkins is the best of course :) cus it gets rid of cravings.. sugar busters

is ok but it lets you have too many carbs in my opinion and when you have

too many carbs you get cravings.. atkins by having you go into ketosis

really gets rid of your appetite and thats what matters to me.. the zone is

low fat as well as low carb and i dont agree with low fat

catherine

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Thank you - that is very helpful - as I've ordered the zone book but haven't

read on it yet - I also do not do low fat, I would much father have less

mayonnaise than have fat free - I think it tastes nasty (:

My doctor tends to lean more towards Atkins or Sugar Busters - sugar busters

you can have more carbs, true - but has to be specific types, and they are

not candida friendly - that's the cool thing there. However I have been

really delving into the Atkins recipe exchange and have found some oneful

things to try - my husband has used Atkins several times and really does

well when he follows it... Part of the problem has been me not knowing

enough about it. I am concerned about kidney issues though. Is that not

something I really should worry about if the program is followed correctly?

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atkins is the best of course :) cus it gets rid of cravings.. sugar busters

is ok but it lets you have too many carbs in my opinion and when you have

too many carbs you get cravings.. atkins by having you go into ketosis

really gets rid of your appetite and thats what matters to me.. the zone is

low fat as well as low carb and i dont agree with low fat

catherine

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Thanks! That makes sense. More than likely any one that may have had

problems, probably did not drink enough water to flush their systems, which

can cause problems regardless of how you are eating.

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well atkins has a special candida diet. .without the dairy and other things

that you can follow for a month.. no the kidney thing is a myth used to

discredit atkins.. all of these anti low carb things came from the days of

the " liquid protien " diets that were nutritionally unbalanced.. this diet is

fine you are eating real foods veggies and salads.. you must however take

your muti vitamins and minerals and Drink all of your water to wash out the

wastes that come from burning fat.. fat stores all the toxins in our bodies

so when we burn fat they get released so you need to flush them out..

catherine

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well atkins has a special candida diet. .without the dairy and other things

that you can follow for a month.. no the kidney thing is a myth used to

discredit atkins.. all of these anti low carb things came from the days of

the " liquid protien " diets that were nutritionally unbalanced.. this diet is

fine you are eating real foods veggies and salads.. you must however take

your muti vitamins and minerals and Drink all of your water to wash out the

wastes that come from burning fat.. fat stores all the toxins in our bodies

so when we burn fat they get released so you need to flush them out..

catherine

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> really gets rid of your appetite and thats what

> matters to me.. the zone is

> low fat as well as low carb and i dont agree with

> low fat

> catherine

As I'm sitting here all full of chicken and cabbage, I

wonder if someone with a stapled stomach could eat

enough of the fat and protein. Don't we have to eat a

certain amount for it to work or can we eat very

little and it will still be OK? I read where if you

eat too little your metabolism shuts down and you have

problems losing. Just wondered...

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Lexxy, Augusta, GA

Potter & gardener

179-177-130...started for real 9-10-00

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Well - I get in a good amount of fat an protein - but only because I do not

pay attention to the fat grams (: I eat the real stuff - I just cannot eat

a great deal of it. I eat generally in 3 meals what most people eat in a

really large breakfast or possibly a meal and 1/2.

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> really gets rid of your appetite and thats what

> matters to me.. the zone is

> low fat as well as low carb and i dont agree with

> low fat

> catherine

As I'm sitting here all full of chicken and cabbage, I

wonder if someone with a stapled stomach could eat

enough of the fat and protein. Don't we have to eat a

certain amount for it to work or can we eat very

little and it will still be OK? I read where if you

eat too little your metabolism shuts down and you have

problems losing. Just wondered...

=====

Lexxy, Augusta, GA

Potter & gardener

179-177-130...started for real 9-10-00

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There are/have been people on this list with stapled stomachs and I think

they did/do quite well actually.

corky

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>

>

> > really gets rid of your appetite and thats what

> > matters to me.. the zone is

> > low fat as well as low carb and i dont agree with

> > low fat

> > catherine

>

> As I'm sitting here all full of chicken and cabbage, I

> wonder if someone with a stapled stomach could eat

> enough of the fat and protein. Don't we have to eat a

> certain amount for it to work or can we eat very

> little and it will still be OK? I read where if you

> eat too little your metabolism shuts down and you have

> problems losing. Just wondered...

>

> =====

> Lexxy, Augusta, GA

> Potter & gardener

> 179-177-130...started for real 9-10-00

>

> __________________________________________________

>

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especially Mondays!

>

> >How long have you been following the Atkins program?

>

> I started Atkins in 1997...although I have to admit I am an on again off

> again person...there is A LOT more activity on week days so get ready for

a

> deluge of mail!!! I hope you hop right in with questions, comments and

> suggestions :)

>

> JOya

>

> Please visit our homepage at http://members.xoom.com/AChallengers

> You will find information, recipes, before and after pictures.

> To contact the list owner please send mail to lindag@...

> Visit our 2000 Train Tour Site -

http://www.brunnet.net/k & l/web_site_train_tour/actraintour.htm

>

>

>

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Oh Oh Candace just wait for Lyssa . She had stomach surgery last year and

has been on Atkins and has lost over a hundred pounds.

Hang in there. If you watched Oprah or check in to their message board,

you will know that many people did not lose weight that easily as the carbs

they ate made them crave too much.

We will be here for you.

Norma

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Yeah - I know that the surgery alone isn't going to do that - I've never

fooled myself otherwise. I know that I can eat all day long if I time it

right and I can also stretch my stomach out.

The surgery was just a tool because I was out of control.

Now I have to do something while I can to get my life in order. The candida

makes my cravings worse - because that's what it feeds on, the little

" yeasty beasties " in my blood stream love it when I give in to a carb fest

<G>

I know that I cannot totally give up carbs, I tried that for 90 days and

almost lost my mind, but I can live within limits as long as I eat the right

types of carbs and find good substitutes. I've found a few recipes today

for potato and pasta substitutes that have me intrigued, I love to cook so I

will try them. Never thought of cabbage in place of pasta <G>

I want to find the right program, that will fit into my lifestyle, and take

care of my health programs.

I do appreciate everyone answering my questions and giving me their point of

view - I'm not here to challenge anyone's choice, I'm here to make an

educated choice for me (:

Thanks again!! (:

Prayers and thoughts are always welcomed!

Candace

Smile, it makes people wonder what you are up to <G>

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Oh Oh Candace just wait for Lyssa . She had stomach surgery last year and

has been on Atkins and has lost over a hundred pounds.

Hang in there. If you watched Oprah or check in to their message board,

you will know that many people did not lose weight that easily as the carbs

they ate made them crave too much.

We will be here for you.

Norma

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> I have to say I'm in the " which way do I go stage " . There are 3 options

> that I'm studying and learning about and I think that all of them have good

> points and can be utilized together. I'm trying to decide between

> following:

>

> Atkins

> Sugar Busters

> The Zone

>

> I am diabetic and have Candida and a list of other things that would merely

> bore you, wrong with me. I have had my stomach stapled (last March)

> drastic, yes, but effective. I'm not sorry I did it, but I can put myself

> back up to the over 300 pounds I was, or I can change my eating habits and

> finish losing weight. I just want to find which is the best program - or if

> I just want to take the best of all 3 and go from there.

I have only done Atkins and don't know much about the other plans. I do

know that many people with Candida are very successful with a modified

version of Atkins (cutting out vinegar, etc) but it seems difficult

(though I'm sure not more difficult than other plans -- it's just they

they make a lot of their own dressings and such).

Have you seen this site:

http://www.geocities.com/HotSprings/4966/recipes.htm?

I have also seen the phenomenal process of weight loss for a few people

who had their stomachs stapled and are losing or maintaining on Atkins.

-Jeanie

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NO I haven't been to this site - thank you!

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> I have to say I'm in the " which way do I go stage " . There are 3 options

> that I'm studying and learning about and I think that all of them have

good

> points and can be utilized together. I'm trying to decide between

> following:

>

> Atkins

> Sugar Busters

> The Zone

>

> I am diabetic and have Candida and a list of other things that would

merely

> bore you, wrong with me. I have had my stomach stapled (last March)

> drastic, yes, but effective. I'm not sorry I did it, but I can put myself

> back up to the over 300 pounds I was, or I can change my eating habits and

> finish losing weight. I just want to find which is the best program - or

if

> I just want to take the best of all 3 and go from there.

I have only done Atkins and don't know much about the other plans. I do

know that many people with Candida are very successful with a modified

version of Atkins (cutting out vinegar, etc) but it seems difficult

(though I'm sure not more difficult than other plans -- it's just they

they make a lot of their own dressings and such).

Have you seen this site:

http://www.geocities.com/HotSprings/4966/recipes.htm?

I have also seen the phenomenal process of weight loss for a few people

who had their stomachs stapled and are losing or maintaining on Atkins.

-Jeanie

Please visit our homepage at http://members.xoom.com/AChallengers

You will find information, recipes, before and after pictures.

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Hi Candace

I prefer Atkins myself but I think any program where you eliminate sugar,

also exercise and get your protein is going to work for you.

You mention stomach stapling and I was wondering which procedure did you

have? I had open rny in June of 99 which is why I ask.

I follow low carb as that is the post op diet my surgeon recommends .. in

fact I was doing lc before I had surgery for over a year but I cheated too

much and when I binged I binged! I can no longer do that and for the most

part when I " m good the lc woe really works for me.

Welcome to the list.

Lyssa

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Thank you (:

I have to say I'm in the " which way do I go stage " . There are 3 options

that I'm studying and learning about and I think that all of them have good

points and can be utilized together. I'm trying to decide between

following:

Atkins

Sugar Busters

The Zone

I am diabetic and have Candida and a list of other things that would merely

bore you, wrong with me. I have had my stomach stapled (last March)

drastic, yes, but effective. I'm not sorry I did it, but I can put myself

back up to the over 300 pounds I was, or I can change my eating habits and

finish losing weight. I just want to find which is the best program - or if

I just want to take the best of all 3 and go from there.

Any thoughts - or experiences dealing with any of the above mentioned

programs to help me with my research will be most appreciated!

Candace

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Candace Sounds like we are alot alike .. I used to live in California

(SoCal) Now live in NH. We're the same height and my memory is shot too :)

I would love to visit New Zealand my husband's family used to live there and

his brother is buried there and we would like to visit his grave one day. I

absolutely love the smell of Drakkar Noir .. cologne and I love silence too

especially when the kids are sleeping! LOL! Thats great that you are

studying French. I was in French Immersion school from Kindergarten to Gr.

12 .. I don't have as much opportunity to use it now that I live in the US

(formerly from Canada) but I hope to retain as much as I can!

Lyssa

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I just had the simple stapling, not the bi-pass. I can eat the equivalent

of just under 1/2 happy meal cheeseburger and 3-4 fries. Now No gasping

from the low carb eaters - that's just so you can get a good estimate of how

little I can eat! If I get a piece of chicken from KFC - I take the skin

off and I can eat 1 thigh - nothing else, and I'm stuffed.

However, due to the antibiotics I've been on over the course of the last 5

months the yeastie beasties have kicked up my carb. cravings have caused me

to make myself ill a few times. It is really sad when a cheese burger is

your heroin!

That's why I'm doing this investigation - I've got to get the yeast under

control. Someone sent me a link for help with candida and that's been very

useful too!

(:

Thanks for the feedback! I've really heard great stories from a lot of

people!

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Thank you (:

I have to say I'm in the " which way do I go stage " . There are 3 options

that I'm studying and learning about and I think that all of them have good

points and can be utilized together. I'm trying to decide between

following:

Atkins

Sugar Busters

The Zone

I am diabetic and have Candida and a list of other things that would merely

bore you, wrong with me. I have had my stomach stapled (last March)

drastic, yes, but effective. I'm not sorry I did it, but I can put myself

back up to the over 300 pounds I was, or I can change my eating habits and

finish losing weight. I just want to find which is the best program - or if

I just want to take the best of all 3 and go from there.

Any thoughts - or experiences dealing with any of the above mentioned

programs to help me with my research will be most appreciated!

Candace

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You will find information, recipes, before and after pictures.

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