Guest guest Posted May 31, 2001 Report Share Posted May 31, 2001 Hmmmm.. .up here blue is on every city vehicle except for the fire engines. This includes trash trucks, water dept, parks dept, the whole city fleet! Bet he would have a hay day up here! Jay Re: Lights Interestingly enough, there is a trooper in San , which is where Harmony VFD is, that has been writing security agencys that have amber/blue light bars, and wreckers, and volunteer fire fighters tickets for displaying restricted emergency vehicle lighting (i.e. blue lights), on their vehicles. They weren't even on, they were merely driving down the road with the light bar in the off positions, and were ticketed. The trooper on one occasion made the person place duct tape over the blue lenses before proceeding down the road. To my knowledge, all of the tickets have been dismissed, however, it has to make you think. Hmmmmmmm?? Take care, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 31, 2001 Report Share Posted May 31, 2001 Just jokin'. Actually, it is interesting! The service area I work in is rural and we interact with several volunteer agencies and these questions and issues come up on a fairly regular basis. Re: Lights In a message dated 5/31/01 11:18:47 AM Pacific Daylight Time, jhoskins@... writes: << No need to yell, . I think the lights and siren issue is a good topic :-) Jay >> I have to agree with you Jay. How many people on this list server are first responders and may have the need to exhibit emergency lights/sirens/etc. RAA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 31, 2001 Report Share Posted May 31, 2001 This is a true story and not an urban legend. One of the guys I used to work with in the seventies came up with a set of air horns from a freight train and mounted them on the ambulance. However, he did not have an air compressirm, just a tank. It worked incredibly well. In fact, I am sure many a driver soiled their pants when the chain was pulled. But, he had to stop after each call and fill the tank with compressed air. And, the air didn't last very long. Also, about the same time, another guy put landing lights from a Cessna into the light bar (I believe it was called a twin sonic). The lights melted the plastic covers over the rotating beacons and the whole electrical system dimmed when it was turned on. Ah....those were the good old days. (And that is only two of the stories) Bledsoe, DO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 31, 2001 Report Share Posted May 31, 2001 , Do you remember when the first Federal Electronic Sirens (The Director, or something like that) came out and had public address capabilities? When I was in Weatherall's Paramedic class in Houston in '81 HFD had two of them on their trucks with speakers on top of the cab. The medic in the right seat would get on the PA and shout " GET THE HELL OUT OF THE WAY, YOU STUPID ************* through one of the sirens while the other was on YELP. Later, I used that concept to my advantage when a little old lady with blue hair driving a Chrysler Imperial refused to get out of my way on a hilly highway with one no-passing lane after another. I could tell she knew we were there because I could see her looking in her rear view mirror wondering what those clear strobes we had on the bumper were. In desperation I got on the horn and said in my deepest and most authoritatian voice, " Ma'am, This is GOD SPEAKING. PULL TO YOUR RIGHT!! " She complied immediately and we passed with ease. gg E. Gandy, JD, LP EMS Professions Program Tyler Junior College Tyler, TX Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 31, 2001 Report Share Posted May 31, 2001 Hey ...! 8^P Just kidding... 8^) Barry E. McClung Paramedic/Crew Chief North Blanco County EMS City, Texas Re: Lights OK! ENOUGH ALREADY ON THE LIGHTS AND SIREN ISSUE! ALL I CAN SAY IS THAT PEOPLE WHO THINK THEY KNOW IT ALL ARE DARNED IRRITATING TO THOSE OF US THAT DO. Kirk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 31, 2001 Report Share Posted May 31, 2001 I used to run lights on my car in Montgomery Co. and I asked the trooper that worked that area if he would get all upset if I ran just Red and Blue lights. He told me that I could. So I did for several years. The penal code stated (and I have not seen it in some time) that you had to have a flashing red light at the highest and widest part of your car. I asked and was told I could run red and blue. I never did get any flack from it till I drove to Midland and the sheriff of Kerville asked me if My car was an emergency Vehicle. I would certainly ask about it before just doing it. RE: Lights If there are no set rules, then reserving red/blue combo for law enforcement sounds more like personal opinion or perhaps a common practice in the area that trooper is stationed. We have red/blue/clear combination on all our ambulances... If there is one thing I am sure if, it is that the law was followed when choosing our lighting package. I think that your friend should first contact the agency he volunteers with to get their policy on this... If he is not sure check with his county/city to see if there are any specific local ordinances regarding lights/siren on private vehicles. Adam J. I asked a DPS Officer what the rules were for putting a lightbar or emergency lights on a personal vehicle. He said that there were no set rules, but not to use a red and blue combination of lights, that the red and blue color combination was typically reserved for Police Officers. I hope this helps. Lt. W. EMT-I Harmony V.F.D. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 31, 2001 Report Share Posted May 31, 2001 We Love To Entertain!!! E. Gandy, JD, LP EMS Professions Program Tyler Junior College Tyler, TX Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 31, 2001 Report Share Posted May 31, 2001 Insomniacs and night owls of the world unite.... -Wes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 31, 2001 Report Share Posted May 31, 2001 Guess it'd depend on the changes.... -Wes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 1, 2001 Report Share Posted June 1, 2001 Gene: Our ambulances usually had two of the Federal Directors to set one on wail and the other on yelp. Many of the ambulances had a Q-2 mechanical siren in addition to the two electronic sirens. By the way, the proper way to refer to two white haired ladies in a Buick is " Q tips. " BEB Re: Lights > , > > Do you remember when the first Federal Electronic Sirens (The Director, or > something like that) came out and had public address capabilities? When I > was in Weatherall's Paramedic class in Houston in '81 HFD had two of them on > their trucks with speakers on top of the cab. The medic in the right seat > would get on the PA and shout " GET THE HELL OUT OF THE WAY, YOU STUPID > ************* through one of the sirens while the other was on YELP. > > Later, I used that concept to my advantage when a little old lady with blue > hair driving a Chrysler Imperial refused to get out of my way on a hilly > highway with one no-passing lane after another. I could tell she knew we > were there because I could see her looking in her rear view mirror wondering > what those clear strobes we had on the bumper were. In desperation I got on > the horn and said in my deepest and most authoritatian voice, " Ma'am, This is > GOD SPEAKING. PULL TO YOUR RIGHT!! " > She complied immediately and we passed with ease. > > gg > > E. Gandy, JD, LP > EMS Professions Program > Tyler Junior College > Tyler, TX > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 1, 2001 Report Share Posted June 1, 2001 Gene, sometimes you kill me...You remind me so much of my past misgivings...LOL wegandy@... wrote: > , > > Do you remember when the first Federal Electronic Sirens (The Director, or > something like that) came out and had public address capabilities? When I > was in Weatherall's Paramedic class in Houston in '81 HFD had two of them on > their trucks with speakers on top of the cab. The medic in the right seat > would get on the PA and shout " GET THE HELL OUT OF THE WAY, YOU STUPID > ************* through one of the sirens while the other was on YELP. > > Later, I used that concept to my advantage when a little old lady with blue > hair driving a Chrysler Imperial refused to get out of my way on a hilly > highway with one no-passing lane after another. I could tell she knew we > were there because I could see her looking in her rear view mirror wondering > what those clear strobes we had on the bumper were. In desperation I got on > the horn and said in my deepest and most authoritatian voice, " Ma'am, This is > GOD SPEAKING. PULL TO YOUR RIGHT!! " > She complied immediately and we passed with ease. > > gg > > E. Gandy, JD, LP > EMS Professions Program > Tyler Junior College > Tyler, TX > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 1, 2001 Report Share Posted June 1, 2001 It appears some of us are up a little late tonight wegandy@... wrote: > We Love To Entertain!!! > > E. Gandy, JD, LP > EMS Professions Program > Tyler Junior College > Tyler, TX > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 1, 2001 Report Share Posted June 1, 2001 Maybe us alone can get some form of changes that can make this a better profession for all of our comrades...Sounds good to me...LOL ExLngHrn@... wrote: > Insomniacs and night owls of the world unite.... > > -Wes > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 1, 2001 Report Share Posted June 1, 2001 Damn.....Modulances?? LOL YOU are showing your age. LOL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 1, 2001 Report Share Posted June 1, 2001 And the old Q2 sireeeeeeeeen. You could see the voltmeter fall out when you hit it. It certainly would move traffic, unlike the apologetic sounding sirens now. Every bolt on the Modulance would shake and the Q2 would still be winding down after you got to the scene and loaded the patient. And there's the old 454 Interceptors under the hood. You could motor through anything, unlike these apologetic turbo-diesels now. ---------- > > To: > Subject: Re: Lights > Date: Thursday, May 31, 2001 4:16 PM > > This is a true story and not an urban legend. > > One of the guys I used to work with in the seventies came up with a set of > air horns from a freight train and mounted them on the ambulance. However, > he did not have an air compressirm, just a tank. It worked incredibly well. > In fact, I am sure many a driver soiled their pants when the chain was > pulled. But, he had to stop after each call and fill the tank with > compressed air. And, the air didn't last very long. > > Also, about the same time, another guy put landing lights from a Cessna into > the light bar (I believe it was called a twin sonic). The lights melted the > plastic covers over the rotating beacons and the whole electrical system > dimmed when it was turned on. > > Ah....those were the good old days. (And that is only two of the stories) > > Bledsoe, DO > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 1, 2001 Report Share Posted June 1, 2001 You can buy Qs completely reconditioned for $695 from a guy in Tucson. We bought a Sterling with a 10 inch rotor for $325 that's beautiful and sounds like the Queen Elizsabeth docking. This guy in Tucson lovingly restores sirens and sells them as fast as he can turn them out. Tulsa FD has bought 7 of them, and more and more people are going back to the Q. Also, Whelen now has an electronic version. Haven't heard it yet, but it's supposed to do 126 db at 10 feet with about 6 amps maximum drain. Something has to be done about the wimpy sirens we have now. They're dangerous. With the soundproofing in cars, the stereo going full blast, and the cellphone at the same time, people just don't hear us. Also, Buells or Dover StutterTones are marvelous. Gene E. Gandy, JD, LP EMS Professions Program Tyler Junior College Tyler, TX Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 1, 2001 Report Share Posted June 1, 2001 On Fri, 1 Jun 2001 11:46:35 -0500 " Mike Hudson " writes: > And the old Q2 sireeeeeeeeen. You could see the voltmeter fall out > when you hit it. ... And there's the old 454 Interceptors under the hood. The only reason the Q2 worked as well as it did WAS the 454 Interceptor engine. Looks like another impromptu meeting of the Turtle Club! Unless I specifically mention an attachment in the body of the text, DO NOT open any attachments. " Leadership is action, not position " Larry RN LP CEN CFRN NREMTP... all earned! ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 5, 2001 Report Share Posted June 5, 2001 Hi Mike hope you have been doing well. Just wanted to say how proud I am of you when I see how you have advanced your career. Sincerely, Glenn Pratt Re: Lights > > Date: Thursday, May 31, 2001 4:16 PM > > > > This is a true story and not an urban legend. > > > > One of the guys I used to work with in the seventies came up with a set > of > > air horns from a freight train and mounted them on the ambulance. > However, > > he did not have an air compressirm, just a tank. It worked incredibly > well. > > In fact, I am sure many a driver soiled their pants when the chain was > > pulled. But, he had to stop after each call and fill the tank with > > compressed air. And, the air didn't last very long. > > > > Also, about the same time, another guy put landing lights from a Cessna > into > > the light bar (I believe it was called a twin sonic). The lights melted > the > > plastic covers over the rotating beacons and the whole electrical system > > dimmed when it was turned on. > > > > Ah....those were the good old days. (And that is only two of the > stories) > > > > Bledsoe, DO > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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