Guest guest Posted April 29, 2002 Report Share Posted April 29, 2002 Hi all! Let me preface by apologizing for most likely asking the same questions you've all seen, read, replied to in the past. I'm new to this site and find it incredibly helpful for my plans for surgery. I am currently playing ping-pong between my orthodontist and surgeon, but am told that I am much closer to surgery and anticipate getting it scheduled " soon " . My questions for you ... Once the surgeon has told you you're ready, how long did it take to actually get it scheduled (I'm hoping a month or so, hope not longer!) Also, once it's scheduled, what exactly needs to be done prior to the actual date (e.g., how many impressions/casts, blood drawn, that sort of thing). Any info will be helpful. Thanks! Irish Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 29, 2002 Report Share Posted April 29, 2002 Hi Irish. How exciting for you that you will soon have your surgery date. When I got the date for surgery, the actual surgery was less than a month away. Very quick... .. My week before surgery went like this: Monday--see family dentists (husband & wife team) for last, good cleaning and basic check, hugs all around--felt like I was going off to battle or something. Tuesday morning-- last check at surgeon's office & signed consent form (more on consent forms another time--basic message--expect them to be scarey--don't let them rattle you) Tuesday afternoon--hospital tests: blood work, urine sample, chest X-ray, EKG, home-care interview, admission paperwork; every body part poked, prodded and stabbed, then off to family doc for medical clearance check up. Wednesday--day off! ate junk food (last day I could eat before the provisionals went on) and bought clear, unscented deodorant so O.R. staff would not know I was wearing contraband deodorant--wild woman that I am Thursday 8:00 am until 2:00 pm --prostho appointment--yes, really, I was in the chair from 8-2 except to get up to go to the bathroom (know what it's like to be a grown woman and have to ask a grown man for permission to go to the bathroom with your mouth full of provisional temps?) two sets of impressions--one mold for him, one mold to take to surgeon Friday--ortho--hooks set into the wires of the braces in preparation for new wires, showed him molds from prostho, hugs all round at this office also (I'd been there for three years.) Now I was sure I was going into battle...where's my shield? Monday--took molds to surgeon for his pre-op study, last best wishes from his nurses.... Tuesday--surgery and Wednesday--home! After that wild week, surgery was almost a welcome relief (well, almost...) Once you start going through all the final appointments, it's a great feeling (at least I thought so.) After so many years of talking about it and waiting, it was finally happening. Take care & good luck, Lexi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 30, 2002 Report Share Posted April 30, 2002 Hi, Irishsmiles (and what a nice name!) Read around in the back posts, and use the archive search thing if you have specific questions. I think the timing of the surgery depends pretty much on where you are. Here, my ortho has told me I'll be ready by June. He first told me May, and I could see the panic in his eyes, so I asked if he wanted to wait a month. He grabbed onto the lifeline I'd thrown, and with great relief, said yes. Now it looks as though I would have been ready by may. Oh well. I'd rather be ready and be sure and wait. My ortho had no problem scheduling me. He does 'em every Tuesday, and it was just a matter of fitting me into a slot. I think he must have the hospital reserved every Tuesday morning into infinity. Now, there's a lot of stuff to do to get ready. Lexi's list is a good one. There are more in the geocities website. Certainly, ZipnSqueezes are a really good idea. Some docs want you to give blood. Others think it's unnecessary unless you really want to do it and are worried about transfusions. What are they supposed to do for you? Upper? Lower? Genio? Both my ortho and my surgeon will make molds and do pix. I have to have an EKG and a chest x-ray within the week of surgery. Because I've had minor problems, my surgeon also wants an exam of my carotid arteries and an echostudy of a minor heart murmur, but that's a special situation. There's a laundry list of supplies you'll need. Things like lip balm, and possibly nose spray, and possibly a humidifier... Check the old posts for other suggestions. You'll want to figure out what to do about nutrition, of course, and make provisions for anyone else who relies on your care. (children, elderly parents, etc.) Also get whatever clearances you need from your workplace. And figure out how you're gonna arrange yourself for sleeping. You'll need to have someone to take you from the hospital, and someone to take you home afterward. I'd want to know whether my surgeon expects to band me or wire me, and whether i'll have a splint. Matter of fact, I already do know. And especially, you'll need supportive friends and family, I think. You may have depression afterward, and you may get a bit of acne briefly. You'll probably want a soft, baby toothbrush and a baby spoon. Good luck to you! Cammie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 30, 2002 Report Share Posted April 30, 2002 In a message dated 4/30/02 6:43:46 AM Eastern Daylight Time, irishsmiles10@... writes: << The 8am-2pm appt for the provisional temps ... what is that all about? >> Oh Irish, I doubt very much that you will be in the prostho chair that long. I don't think most people are. Most of my appointment was with getting my provisional bridges on in places where there will be implants in the future or future crowns. The molds were only for a brief time at the end of the marathon appointment. It had to be done all at once right before the surgery because it screwed my bite up a whole lot more than braces ever did...... From what I am hearing from other people, I am thinking that maybe this is why I am not wearing a splint---but who knows? No one ever even mentioned splint as an option to me although my surgeon and I did discuss a variety of options to me. Each one of us has a unique mouth (lol...that wasn't meant to be funny, but this morning as I type it, it struck me as hilarious,,,.must be that rotten sleep I'm getting...of course our mouths are unique--that's why we are all at this site!) and I wouldn't worry one second about the prostho appointment. Just ask and get info that's appropriate for you. Sorry to hear that molds are so difficult for you. My jaws are not small like yours (that must be a real bear!) but I do try to remember to breathe through my nose. If you know any Yoga or deep tummmy breathing, now is the time to do it! Also, I keep my eyes open and concentrate really hard out the window (or if there is a picture in front of me, I try to put myself in it.) Good luck. I understand just what you are saying about your smile. For years I have made my smile smaller and smaller, I am so excited when this is all done--not just to have the bite and teeth problems right, but to give everyone who has helped me a great big smile...... take care, Lexi Please, do not worry----I am sure it will not be Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 30, 2002 Report Share Posted April 30, 2002 Lexi, Thank you SO much for such a thorough response. I kept reading piece-meal about this last appt, that last appt, wasn't sure if I was getting the whole picture! One additional question. The 8am-2pm appt for the provisional temps ... what is that all about? Are those more molds being made? Why does it take so long? Are they as awful as the impressions/molds I've been getting all along with the alginate? I have a God-awful time with molds. They have to give me what they lovingly call the " banana spray " every time because I gag up a storm. It's been the worst part of this whole experience thus far (but I know I have a lot more to experience!). I can't imagine sitting in the chair with molds being made that long. The spray doesn't keep you numb for that long! Any more info on that will be much appreciated! Thanks again! Irish > Hi Irish. > How exciting for you that you will soon have your surgery date. When I got > the date for surgery, the actual surgery was less than a month away. Very > quick... > . > My week before surgery went like this: > > Monday--see family dentists (husband & wife team) for last, good cleaning and > basic check, hugs all around--felt like I was going off to battle or > something. > > Tuesday morning-- last check at surgeon's office & signed consent form (more > on consent forms another time--basic message--expect them to be scarey--don't > let them rattle you) > > Tuesday afternoon--hospital tests: blood work, urine sample, chest X-ray, > EKG, home-care interview, admission paperwork; every body part poked, prodded > and stabbed, then off to family doc for medical clearance check up. > > Wednesday--day off! ate junk food (last day I could eat before the > provisionals went on) and bought clear, unscented deodorant so O.R. staff > would not know I was wearing contraband deodorant--wild woman that I am > > Thursday 8:00 am until 2:00 pm --prostho appointment--yes, really, I was in > the chair from 8-2 except to get up to go to the bathroom (know what it's > like to be a grown woman and have to ask a grown man for permission to go to > the bathroom with your mouth full of provisional temps?) > two sets of impressions--one mold for him, one mold to take to surgeon > > Friday--ortho--hooks set into the wires of the braces in preparation for new > wires, showed him molds from prostho, hugs all round at this office also > (I'd been there for three years.) Now I was sure I was going into > battle...where's my shield? > > Monday--took molds to surgeon for his pre-op study, last best wishes from his > nurses.... > > Tuesday--surgery > > and Wednesday--home! > > After that wild week, surgery was almost a welcome relief (well, almost...) > > Once you start going through all the final appointments, it's a great feeling > (at least I thought so.) After so many years of talking about it and > waiting, it was finally happening. > Take care & good luck, > Lexi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 30, 2002 Report Share Posted April 30, 2002 Thanks Cammie! I'm going to have all three ... top, lower and genio. VERY nervous but very much looking forward to a new me. I've been ashamed of my smile for years and if I can ever get through this, it will be so great. The emotional back and forth between the doctors without still scheduling a date has been tough. I'm so ready to get this done and stop worrying about it. I know I will not be wired, just banded. Will also have a splint (which I can't even imagine what that's all about). My surgeon wants me to give blood. I've been approved by insurance and have been approved for six weeks off from work, so those things have been settled. I just kept reading emails here and there about those last weeks and wasn't sure if I had the whole picture. Lexi's list and your email helped a great deal! Thanks again. Thus far, the worst about this whole experience is getting the molds done. They have to give me a numbing spray (what they call " the banana spray " ) so I don't gag. I have really tiny jaws and it's so difficult with the braces to get those trays in there, let alone all that disgusting alginate! I wonder if the last molds before surgery the same type as usual or are they different somehow. Lexi mentioned she was in the chair for many hours getting hers, so I'm curious about that. Thanks again! You must be so excited. I've been reading some of your posts and realize that you're almost there. Best of luck to you and I will keep reading to find out how you did. Post as soon as you're up and able! Best of luck and thanks again. Irish > Hi, Irishsmiles (and what a nice name!) > > Read around in the back posts, and use the archive search thing if > you have specific questions. > > I think the timing of the surgery depends pretty much on where you > are. Here, my ortho has told me I'll be ready by June. He first told > me May, and I could see the panic in his eyes, so I asked if he > wanted to wait a month. He grabbed onto the lifeline I'd thrown, and > with great relief, said yes. Now it looks as though I would have been > ready by may. Oh well. I'd rather be ready and be sure and wait. > > My ortho had no problem scheduling me. He does 'em every Tuesday, and > it was just a matter of fitting me into a slot. I think he must have > the hospital reserved every Tuesday morning into infinity. > > Now, there's a lot of stuff to do to get ready. Lexi's list is a good > one. There are more in the geocities website. Certainly, ZipnSqueezes > are a really good idea. > > Some docs want you to give blood. Others think it's unnecessary > unless you really want to do it and are worried about transfusions. > What are they supposed to do for you? Upper? Lower? Genio? > > Both my ortho and my surgeon will make molds and do pix. > > I have to have an EKG and a chest x-ray within the week of surgery. > Because I've had minor problems, my surgeon also wants an exam of my > carotid arteries and an echostudy of a minor heart murmur, but that's > a special situation. > > There's a laundry list of supplies you'll need. Things like lip balm, > and possibly nose spray, and possibly a humidifier... Check the old > posts for other suggestions. > > You'll want to figure out what to do about nutrition, of course, and > make provisions for anyone else who relies on your care. (children, > elderly parents, etc.) Also get whatever clearances you need from > your workplace. And figure out how you're gonna arrange yourself for > sleeping. > > You'll need to have someone to take you from the hospital, and > someone to take you home afterward. > > I'd want to know whether my surgeon expects to band me or wire me, > and whether i'll have a splint. Matter of fact, I already do know. > > And especially, you'll need supportive friends and family, I think. > You may have depression afterward, and you may get a bit of acne > briefly. You'll probably want a soft, baby toothbrush and a baby > spoon. > > Good luck to you! > > Cammie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 30, 2002 Report Share Posted April 30, 2002 Thanks Cammie! I'm going to have all three ... top, lower and genio. VERY nervous but very much looking forward to a new me. I've been ashamed of my smile for years and if I can ever get through this, it will be so great. The emotional back and forth between the doctors without still scheduling a date has been tough. I'm so ready to get this done and stop worrying about it. I know I will not be wired, just banded. Will also have a splint (which I can't even imagine what that's all about). My surgeon wants me to give blood. I've been approved by insurance and have been approved for six weeks off from work, so those things have been settled. I just kept reading emails here and there about those last weeks and wasn't sure if I had the whole picture. Lexi's list and your email helped a great deal! Thanks again. Thus far, the worst about this whole experience is getting the molds done. They have to give me a numbing spray (what they call " the banana spray " ) so I don't gag. I have really tiny jaws and it's so difficult with the braces to get those trays in there, let alone all that disgusting alginate! I wonder if the last molds before surgery the same type as usual or are they different somehow. Lexi mentioned she was in the chair for many hours getting hers, so I'm curious about that. Thanks again! You must be so excited. I've been reading some of your posts and realize that you're almost there. Best of luck to you and I will keep reading to find out how you did. Post as soon as you're up and able! Best of luck and thanks again. Irish > Hi, Irishsmiles (and what a nice name!) > > Read around in the back posts, and use the archive search thing if > you have specific questions. > > I think the timing of the surgery depends pretty much on where you > are. Here, my ortho has told me I'll be ready by June. He first told > me May, and I could see the panic in his eyes, so I asked if he > wanted to wait a month. He grabbed onto the lifeline I'd thrown, and > with great relief, said yes. Now it looks as though I would have been > ready by may. Oh well. I'd rather be ready and be sure and wait. > > My ortho had no problem scheduling me. He does 'em every Tuesday, and > it was just a matter of fitting me into a slot. I think he must have > the hospital reserved every Tuesday morning into infinity. > > Now, there's a lot of stuff to do to get ready. Lexi's list is a good > one. There are more in the geocities website. Certainly, ZipnSqueezes > are a really good idea. > > Some docs want you to give blood. Others think it's unnecessary > unless you really want to do it and are worried about transfusions. > What are they supposed to do for you? Upper? Lower? Genio? > > Both my ortho and my surgeon will make molds and do pix. > > I have to have an EKG and a chest x-ray within the week of surgery. > Because I've had minor problems, my surgeon also wants an exam of my > carotid arteries and an echostudy of a minor heart murmur, but that's > a special situation. > > There's a laundry list of supplies you'll need. Things like lip balm, > and possibly nose spray, and possibly a humidifier... Check the old > posts for other suggestions. > > You'll want to figure out what to do about nutrition, of course, and > make provisions for anyone else who relies on your care. (children, > elderly parents, etc.) Also get whatever clearances you need from > your workplace. And figure out how you're gonna arrange yourself for > sleeping. > > You'll need to have someone to take you from the hospital, and > someone to take you home afterward. > > I'd want to know whether my surgeon expects to band me or wire me, > and whether i'll have a splint. Matter of fact, I already do know. > > And especially, you'll need supportive friends and family, I think. > You may have depression afterward, and you may get a bit of acne > briefly. You'll probably want a soft, baby toothbrush and a baby > spoon. > > Good luck to you! > > Cammie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 30, 2002 Report Share Posted April 30, 2002 G'morning, Irish! Of course you can get through this, and you'll be fine and happy, once you're done. I can imagine that not having your docs on the same page is frustrating, indeed. I think ultimately, though, it's the surgeon who decides what happens when. At least hereabouts. I'm having lower advancement (at least as far as I know now), and will be banded with a splint. The splint (which my surgeon insists on calling " a wafer " ) is a thin plate of plastic, with the impression of the teeth in their post-op position formed into it. It keeps you from bouncing around, and tells the teeth where they belong. It also makes you largely unintelligible, and is difficult to clean. (Easier, though, when banded than when wired, I think.) You cannot imagine, unless you've read around here a bit, how very very fortunate you are to have the insurance approval and the assent of your bosses. Be ready for a bunch of molds. The ortho does some, and the surgeon does some. I don't think that Lexi's experience is typical. I'm thinking that a " prostho " is a prosthetic specialist of some sort; I don't even have one of those, thank heavens! I have a tiny mouth, too -- although most of my friends don't think so! -- and am familiar with the problems of those trays. They often have to get a child's tray for me. Or at least they used to. Now my arches are broader and flatter, and maybe all that's changed. Part of me is scared poopless, but I trust both my ortho and my surgeon completely, and will try my darndest to do whatever they tell me I must. I am getting excited, but I really do wish the time would spin by in a hurry now. (One of the, um, interesting aspects of all this is that my workplace, a newspaper, is moving into a new, state of the art plant June 14-16. Can you imagine dealing with 30 years' accumulation of assorted c--p as you're really thinking about the OR? Should be interesting!) Take care. Cammie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 30, 2002 Report Share Posted April 30, 2002 Thanks, Cammie, for the words of encouragement. You're going to do fine, too! You are right, that after reading a lot of the posts, I am fortunate to have been pre-approved. It was turned down once, then the second time they waited a long time to decide, but ultimately, it worked out. My work will allow me as much time off as the surgeon says I needs (assuming he'll document it), at least my immediate boss didn't have a problem with it. I am very lucky. I could have sworn that my surgeon said I'd have a splint for 2 weeks, but after reading around, I must have heard that wrong. I haven't read anyone having one for less than 4-6 weeks. I'll find out soon enough. I can't wait to hear about your experience when you're done. I've been doing searches at this site to get more info. It's a great place to be. Glad to know I'm not the only one out there! Thanks again, Irish > G'morning, Irish! > > Of course you can get through this, and you'll be fine and happy, > once you're done. > > I can imagine that not having your docs on the same page is > frustrating, indeed. I think ultimately, though, it's the surgeon who > decides what happens when. At least hereabouts. > > I'm having lower advancement (at least as far as I know now), and > will be banded with a splint. The splint (which my surgeon insists on > calling " a wafer " ) is a thin plate of plastic, with the impression of > the teeth in their post-op position formed into it. It keeps you from > bouncing around, and tells the teeth where they belong. It also makes > you largely unintelligible, and is difficult to clean. (Easier, > though, when banded than when wired, I think.) > > You cannot imagine, unless you've read around here a bit, how very > very fortunate you are to have the insurance approval and the assent > of your bosses. > > Be ready for a bunch of molds. The ortho does some, and the surgeon > does some. > > I don't think that Lexi's experience is typical. I'm thinking that > a " prostho " is a prosthetic specialist of some sort; I don't even > have one of those, thank heavens! > > I have a tiny mouth, too -- although most of my friends don't think > so! -- and am familiar with the problems of those trays. They often > have to get a child's tray for me. Or at least they used to. Now my > arches are broader and flatter, and maybe all that's changed. > > Part of me is scared poopless, but I trust both my ortho and my > surgeon completely, and will try my darndest to do whatever they tell > me I must. I am getting excited, but I really do wish the time would > spin by in a hurry now. (One of the, um, interesting aspects of all > this is that my workplace, a newspaper, is moving into a new, state > of the art plant June 14-16. Can you imagine dealing with 30 years' > accumulation of assorted c--p as you're really thinking about the OR? > Should be interesting!) > > Take care. > > Cammie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 30, 2002 Report Share Posted April 30, 2002 Nope, not necessarily did you hear wrong. Some surgeons use no splint at all. Others leave 'em in for a week, or two, or 8 or 10. Just depends on what they do and how you heal and so on. Hope for two weeks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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