Re:Help---explain mercury in brain and chelation

[Guest guest]

Moria----dear, sweet Moria-----and special guardian angel to so many of us. I

doubt that even the Man Upstairs can get a halo large enough for you. Please

don't let me ever have to find out what I'd do without your help!!!

I had already copied the " counting rules " and forwarded them to Sharon.

BUT---should you happen to " run into " the references you said you'd have to

" poke around " for, I'd still appreciate that. While her ex has finally agreed

to try the chelation for Matt, Sharon would like to " feed " him ---the

ex---more, to be sure he doesn't change mid-stream.

But, please, Moria---no hurry on that. You do so much.

God be with you always.

Pat

Message: 13

Date: Thu, 06 Sep 2001 23:11:12 -0700

From: Moria Merriweather <moriam@...>

Subject: Re: Help---explain mercury in brain and chelation

>I know I've seen info on this before, but can someone please tell me where

I can find an explanation as to how, altho preliminary tests may not show

evidence of mercury, the mercury is actually present, but locked in brain,

(???traveled there from the gut???) and the reasoning for chelating????

>

>As you can see, if I can't even ask the question right, I REALLY do need

help!!!

>

>Thanks for your patience, expertise, and caring.

>

>God bless all.

>

>Pat

Hi Pat,

Are you looking for references, or just an explanation?

If references, I'll have to poke around to see if I know any.

I'll assume you just want it explained -- but let me know if

the following does not help or address your questions.

When someone is exposed to mercury it will be present after

that for varying time periods in different body parts/organs.

It will be present in blood, but not for very long (I think it

is " days " but I am sorry to say I am not really trustworthy

source on this). In hair mercury will be present a bit longer

(I think this is in " months " , but again I'm not sure.) Mercury

will be present in urine and stool to the extent the person is

able to detox it, rather than store it. What happens then is

that the mercury gets moved into other ograns-- such as thyroid,

kidneys, brain, etc. The mercury is " hidden " there--- in other

words, a person could have enough mercury in their brain and

kidneys and thyroid to do great damage and at the same time

their urine, blood, and hair would come out " normal " . Urine,

blood and feces are the things we are willing to have sampled,

but they are NOT where the (long term) mercury is.

The bottom line here is that is someone is tested and shows

a HIGH level of mercury, that DOES mean there is a problem.

But, if they test as " normal " this means very little, and you

should ignore it!

Please go read this file (called " the counting rules " ) which

explains how a hair test can be used as a guide to tell if

someone has mercury poisoning.

/files/Counting%2BRules

The idea here is you are looking for what mercury DOES since

you can't look for mercury itself. Something mercury DOES is

it seriously messes up the body's ability to use/process

minerals (regular stuff like calcium etc). The counting rules

look for " seriously messed up minerals " .

Mercury exposure is not necessarily from the gut. It could have

been from gut (like eating tuna) or from breathing or from skin

exposure--- or in the case of vaccines, I guess I'm not sure how

to say that-- from direct injection into the body. Amalgam

fillings result in the mercury " outgassing " and then one BREATHES

the mercury vapor. If you played with mercury as a child (as

I did) that is skin exposure. There were many topical products

with mercury in them (there are still a few around, unfortunately).

These are meant as examples, but the point is that you could

be exposed various ways.

The reason for chelation is to clear the mercury (or other metals)

out of the body. Andy recently posted something that said that

most body organs will detox " on their own " in something like

2 to 5 years, but brain will hold on to the mercury forever.

Bernie just posted something that said in brain the halflife

of mercury is 30 years--- I think I may have read other numbers

too--- but they are LONG time periods--- much longer than I

have. (And if the HALFLIFE is 30 years, I wonder how long it

is to get it down to --oh 10% or 0!)

Okay, hope that was some help.

Moria

[Guest guest]

Hi Pat,

Well, first, before anything else, let us celebrate that your

Matt is gonna get a go at this. he he he (you go!)

Okay, now regarding the poking around --- let's see---

I'm looking for stuff that says that urine/blood/feces are

inaccurate indicators of merc toxicity and that merc is stored

(and destructive) all the while.

Humm, well the articles at VRP with overview of mercury poisoning

have a couple of lines (pretty minimal) on this topic. Still,

more than nothing:

http://www.vrpcentral.net/scripts/vrpMoreNews.asp?ART=461

http://www.vrpcentral.net/scripts/vrpMoreNews.asp?ART=471

Please note that their suggestions for

a. provoked urine tests, b. chlelation dosage & schedule and

c. use of NAC (etc) are in serious conflict with Andy's views

on these topics, and should be taken with a grain or more of

salt.

Clicking what Dr. Amy says---oh-- this is much better--- here

we go--- a good explanation in non-techie language, this should

be just what you are looking for I think:

http://www.healing-arts.org/children/holmes.htm#testing

I like her comment that the only way to actually tell how much

is in your brain (etc) is to biopsy the tissue ( " not a

recommended procedure " ). (yeah, no kidding!)

Okay, onward. The DAN protocol

http://www.autism.com/ari/mercuryconsensus.html

has this to say:

" Inclusion testing

Urine, blood and hair mercury are typically normal or negative unless the

mercury exposure has been fairly recent. On

occasion, urinary mercury will be elevated if the child is in a catabolic

state due to growth or malnutrition. In these

situations, the mercury stored in tissues may be released as those cells

are broken down. "

(Let's assume that I don't need to say that Andy disagrees with them

about numerous things. The provoked urine test being just one.)

There is a start for you. Hope it helps.

BTW, if I were you (I'm not) I'm " feed him " the stuff in " love letters " .

One good story of a child who improved does a lot more for me than

does someone explaining merc poisoning. (The results chart on Dr.

Amy's site is also great.) Your mileage (and his) may vary, of course.

Different people find different stuff convincing. And the explainations

are very necessary even if not quite as inspired as results are.

(I'd also get him Dr. Cave's book RIGHT NOW.)

As for your words of thanks, you are welcome, and I'd try to figure

out something to say to respond, but I'm sorta in shock.

And don't you dare forget, Pat, that you, too, can " pass it on " .

Moria

At 04:56 PM 9/7/2001 -0500, you wrote:

>Moria----dear, sweet Moria-----and special guardian angel to so many of

us. I doubt that even the Man Upstairs can get a halo large enough for

you. Please don't let me ever have to find out what I'd do without your

help!!!

>

>I had already copied the " counting rules " and forwarded them to Sharon.

BUT---should you happen to " run into " the references you said you'd have to

" poke around " for, I'd still appreciate that. While her ex has finally

agreed to try the chelation for Matt, Sharon would like to " feed " him

---the ex---more, to be sure he doesn't change mid-stream.

>

>But, please, Moria---no hurry on that. You do so much.

>

>God be with you always.

>

>Pat