Re: alternaitve healing, was: denise

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In a message dated 2/16/2000 1:20:10 PM Eastern Standard Time,

newmoon@... writes:

<< I'm also

learning to remember that those down days will come, but hopefully further

and further apart. >>

Dear ,

That statement is truly the key to accepting this and moving forward.

Good Luck,

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Dear ,

I was very interested in what you wrote. When I was first diagnosed with Lupus in 1997 at age 25 you can imagine we all freaked out. I went to several specialist that my parents ended up paying out of pocket for because my mother refused to believe that this was in fact the right diagnosis. I traveled to Austin and san and Houston to see doctors all at my mothers persistence. When it was finally decided that we were going to accept this and start with treatment my mom started to research alternative medicine and it's benefits. To get the lupus under control in the very beginning I took the heavy duty medication just for a short time. I went to herbal pharmacists who helped out and then referred us to an ND and then I had a dietician that help to develop a diet that would help decrease the inflammation and discomfort. I will tell you that it was very expensive. I took and drank so many different things, but I swear by it. I truly believed that is what helped me get into remission and stay in remission. I take for granted my good health now and have become lax in the supplements I take. I felt so good about all that I was doing to combat my Lupus I would love to learn more about anything that I could do to aid with fertility.

Thanks for all the info. I hope you are feeling better!!

Stacey M.

alternaitve healing, was: denise

At 07:51 AM 2/16/00 -0800, you wrote:

>,

>

>I am interested about the alternative medicine you talked about. I've been studying plant and herbal remedies on my own for about 12 years

and have been working with a traditional Chinese medicine (TCM)

practitioner for about 7 or 8 years. Its my experience that TCM and

naturopathy have offered me a lot that I wasn't getting through traditional

western medicine. I used to have chronic sinus infections and spent the

winter on antibiotics. After starting acupuncture and herbs, I haven't had

a sinus infection in six years. I also had a pre-ulcer condition and was

taking Zantac daily; after acupuncture this has completely disappeared.

Also, I had extremely short periods, I'd bleed for a day tops; nice when

you're not trying to get pregnant, but not good if you are. Accupuncture

and herbs helped get more periods more on track and greatly reduced my PMS. There are intricacies about the body that alternative medicine can detect.

For example, my bbts are a bit higher than those you'd see in TCOYF, but

still follow a textbook pattern. My RE looks at those and sees great

looking temps. My accupuncturist looks at those and sees a great pattern,

but a body temp that might be too warm for implantation to occur. Through

simple treatment with herbs and accupuncture, my bbts have come down

slightly, still show a perfect pattern, but are not as hot. Poor blood

flow at menses wasn't a concern for my OB, but from a Chinese perspective

it means that the blood isn't as rich and doesn't flow as well as it should

to sustain a pregnancy. Alternative medicine sees a profound connection between body, spirit and

mind. I often get as much emotional healing from TCM as I do physical

support.

When choosing to do alternative medicine, its important to make an informed

choice, just like one should when choosing a western doc. In this day and

age alternative medicine has become quite a fad and a big money maker. Its

important to work with someone who has a good reptutation and is credible.

Ask the practitioner lots of questions about training, success rate with

patients, etc. just like you would with any other doctor. Also, I strongly

caution people against taking herbs without talking with someone

knowledgeable about the herbs first. Its possible to buy herbs over the

counter that are equally strong to medications that one could only get via

prescription, so its important to know what they can do and what the side

effects are. There are dozens of herbs that support fertility and

pregnancy that I've researched and discussed with natural phramacists that

I'd be happy to share if anyone's interested, but again its important to

remember that herbs are medicines and to treat them as such. Yoga is a great practice. I hope you really find enjoyment in it. Its not

only good for one's emotional well-being, its has lots of physcial

benefits. However, there are some yoga poses best not done after ovulation

if your're trying to get pregnant and during pregnancy. I'd avoid any

inverted poses as they can disrupt the correct flow of eggs through the

tubes and disrupt implantation. I'd ask your instructor how knowledgeable

s/he is about yoga and pregnancy or ttc. If s/he isn't very knowledgeable

or gives a pat answer like "oh, it no problem" I'd recommend getting a

book or video on yoga during pregnancy to get more information.

***************************

& Jani

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At 11:33 AM 2/16/00 -0600, you wrote:

> Dear , I felt so good about all that I was doing to

>combat my Lupus I would love to learn more about anything that I could do

>to aid with fertility. I hope you are feeling better!! Stacey M.

>

Stacey,

Thanks for sharing your story about lupus and alternative medicine.

Yes, I'm feeling on a more even keel today. Thanks to folks who sent kind

messages; believe me they are really helpful. The sun is shining here

today, which helps a lot. I got a good night's sleep last night. I think

I've found a therapist who will both challenge and support me. I'm finally

getting something accomplished at work which I feel good about. I'm also

learning to remember that those down days will come, but hopefully further

and further apart.

***************************

& Jani

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moms to Rowan, born 6/26/98 (19 months old)

three spirit babies:

Cassidy, m/c 8/99

Mandy, m/c 10/99

Keegan, ectopic pregnancy, 1/00

[Guest guest]

,

I'm happy to hear that you had success in getting rid of your sinus

infections. I usually get them a couple of times a year. I don't take

antibiotics because the sinus problems will eventually clear up. I've just

gotten used to it. Where I live (St. Louis) many people have the same

trouble. It has a lot to do with our weather. I would love to find

something that makes them a thing of the past.

I like to hear about alternative medicine and acupuncture. I wish more drs

would take things like that a little more seriously since it seems to work.

I also wish I could articulate my thoughts like you and do.

Usually what I write isn't exactly what I wanted to say. That's why I don't

respond to a lot of posts. I want to but I don't like the idea of putting my

foot in my mouth in front of this many people!

Take care,

L

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L:

I think you do a great job at expressing yourself. If its any consolation,

I often feel as if I have not articulated myself well when I post -

especially on subjects that relate to my ep experience or my babies.

[Guest guest]

,

I never feel as though you put your foot in your

mouth. Actually most of your posts are very

interesting and, at times, make me smile. But I know

how you feel, I often feel the same way.

As far as alternative healing, I believe in this 100%.

Alternative medicine combined with the help from my

perinatal specialist got me to 32 weeks in a pregnancy

that I believe I otherwise would not have gotten to.

Stacey G.

--- Teneniel2@... wrote:

>

> ,

>

> I'm happy to hear that you had success in getting

> rid of your sinus

> infections. I usually get them a couple of times a

> year. I don't take

> antibiotics because the sinus problems will

> eventually clear up. I've just

> gotten used to it. Where I live (St. Louis) many

> people have the same

> trouble. It has a lot to do with our weather. I

> would love to find

> something that makes them a thing of the past.

>

> I like to hear about alternative medicine and

> acupuncture. I wish more drs

> would take things like that a little more seriously

> since it seems to work.

>

> I also wish I could articulate my thoughts like you

> and do.

> Usually what I write isn't exactly what I wanted to

> say. That's why I don't

> respond to a lot of posts. I want to but I don't

> like the idea of putting my

> foot in my mouth in front of this many people!

>

> Take care,

>

> L

>

>

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Thanks Stacey. It's amazing to me that despite all the modern medical stuff

we have, we seem to be going back to the old ways. They must have been onto

something back then.

I think it's wonderful that you got to 32 weeks. It's a tribute to doctors

that don't just practice textbook medicine.

Take care,

L