Guest guest Posted September 2, 2001 Report Share Posted September 2, 2001 Bernie Here is the definition of porphorin from the most known biomedical dictionary graylab at: http://www.graylab.ac.uk/omd/ porphyrin <protein> Porphyrins are pigments found in both animal and plant life. They are all chelates with metals (Fe, Mg, Co, Zn, Cu, Ni) and constituents of haemoglobin, chlorophyll, cytochromes. Increased levels of coproporphyrins can indicate congenital erythropoietic porphyria or sideroblastic anaemia. Increased protoporphyrins may be seen in infection, thalassaemia, sideroblastic anaemia, iron deficient anaemia, increased erythropoiesis and lead poisoning. Increased uroporphyrins may indicate congenital erythropoietic porphyria or erythropoietic protoporphyria. Now, how this stuff is supposed to be good for people who do not suffer from excess Fe? Lana > The following is a site with a lot of info on porphyria, which is a condition shared by a lot of conditions affected by toxics such as autism, ADHD, MCS, CFS, etc. > Porphyra-zyme is one of many things the site says are useful in treating such conditions. They have a lot of chemistry explaining all of the connections and the many toxics that cause porphyria. > Bernie > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 2, 2001 Report Share Posted September 2, 2001 It seems to be a seaweed product. There are a lot of web sites that sell it. Porphyra-Zyme - A biologically active vegetable culture designed to chelate heavy metals and atherosclerotic plaque. Porphyra-Zyme, unlike other chlorophyll products, is a concentrated porphyrin supplement. By increasing the porphyrin content, the heavy metal binding capability is also increased, providing a natural, very effective and safe oral " chelating " tool. The porphyrin ring of chlorophyll has the ability to bind with metal ions. The central ion in chlorophyll is magnesium, which is freed from chlorophyll under acidic conditions, permitting other metals to bind in its place. Toxic metals, such as mercury, lead and arsenic are complexed first. Then excess amounts of other metals can be complexed. Each tablet supplies 200 mg. of biologically active vegetable extract containing chlorophyll, carotenoids, naturally occurring trace minerals and 120 mg. of ascorbic acid. A site that sells it is: http://www.teleport.com/~iquest/order.html lots of others also. I don't know of anyone who has done a challange test using it. Might be interesting for someone to do who has a baseline urine test. I also don't know if the primary excretion mode is supposed to be urine or stool. Could be stool. Bernie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 2, 2001 Report Share Posted September 2, 2001 The following is a site with a lot of info on porphyria, which is a condition shared by a lot of conditions affected by toxics such as autism, ADHD, MCS, CFS, etc. Porphyra-zyme is one of many things the site says are useful in treating such conditions. They have a lot of chemistry explaining all of the connections and the many toxics that cause porphyria. Bernie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 3, 2001 Report Share Posted September 3, 2001 porphyrin <protein> Porphyrins are pigments found in both animal and plant life. They are all chelates with metals (Fe, Mg, Co, Zn, Cu, Ni) and constituents of haemoglobin, chlorophyll, cytochromes. Increased levels of coproporphyrins can indicate congenital erythropoietic porphyria or sideroblastic anaemia. Increased protoporphyrins may be seen in infection, thalassaemia, sideroblastic anaemia, iron deficient anaemia, increased erythropoiesis and lead poisoning. Increased uroporphyrins may indicate congenital erythropoietic porphyria or erythropoietic protoporphyria. Now, how this stuff is supposed to be good for people who do not suffer from excess Fe? Lana ******************************* The site you found does not give an understandable or useful explanation of porphyrins or porphyrin problems. See the site I referenced for a much better explanation. And my big paper on mercury toxicity issues has several good papers from Medline reviewed. Mercury and other toxics commonly(usually) cause porphyria, which is a problematic metabolic condition. Since mercury causes high levels of Coproporphyrins and Precoproporphyrins, the Fractionated porphyrin test is an FDA approved test for mercury toxicity, and commonly used. This is a serious condition, most with mercury toxicity or toxicity from other toxics have. The fractionated porphyrin test indicates the extent of the metabolic problems that mercury or other toxics have caused, and the likely cause of the toxicity problems by the pattern of which porphyrins are high. Many doctors apparently haven't read much research on such and the info they give out to the public reflects their lack of understanding of toxicity issues regarding such as porphyria. This is a problem most with autism likely have. The site I referenced documents why porphyra-zyme and several other supplements are useful in dealing with this problem. I don't have very much experience with this products use however. Bernie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 3, 2001 Report Share Posted September 3, 2001 Bernie, thank you very much! I will read the sites you mentioned. Yesterday I searched the net (using Google) and found several pages and then started to review Medline. Actually, I found a couple of them there where porphyrya- zyme was used after known mercury or lead exposure. I guess dictionaries often lag behind medical research :-(. Interestingly enough, I found a very long post of a mother to 2 autistic kids who reported about a conference called " BodyBio Biomedical Conference and Mercury/Autism Brainstorming Session " at: http://hunter.apana.org.au/~cas/ozinfo/2001/01-05/msg00004.html Amongst other docs who where there was also P. Kane and her husband. Anyway, this group believes in a very long period of preparing the body for chelation by taking a long list of antioxidants among them porphyra-zyme, GSH (push), vitamin C in IV, etc. I still have to read more about it. Thank you again, Lana > > porphyrin > <protein> Porphyrins are pigments found in both animal and plant > life. They are all chelates with metals (Fe, Mg, Co, Zn, Cu, Ni) and > constituents of haemoglobin, chlorophyll, cytochromes. > > Increased levels of coproporphyrins can indicate congenital > erythropoietic porphyria or sideroblastic anaemia. Increased > protoporphyrins may be seen in infection, thalassaemia, sideroblastic > anaemia, iron deficient anaemia, increased erythropoiesis and lead > poisoning. Increased uroporphyrins may indicate congenital > erythropoietic porphyria or erythropoietic protoporphyria. > > Now, how this stuff is supposed to be good for people who do not > suffer from excess Fe? Lana > ******************************* > The site you found does not give an understandable or useful explanation of porphyrins or porphyrin problems. See the site I referenced for a much better explanation. And my big paper on mercury toxicity issues has several good papers from Medline reviewed. Mercury and other toxics commonly(usually) cause porphyria, which is a problematic metabolic condition. Since mercury causes high levels of Coproporphyrins and Precoproporphyrins, the Fractionated porphyrin test is an FDA approved test for mercury toxicity, and commonly used. This is a serious condition, most with mercury toxicity or toxicity from other toxics have. > The fractionated porphyrin test indicates the extent of the metabolic problems that mercury or other toxics have caused, and the likely cause of the toxicity problems by the pattern of which porphyrins are high. Many doctors apparently haven't read much research on such and the info they give out to the public reflects their lack of understanding of toxicity issues regarding such as porphyria. This is a problem most with autism likely have. The site I referenced documents why > porphyra-zyme and several other supplements are useful in dealing with this problem. I don't have very much experience with this products use however. > Bernie > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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